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(North Jersey)   Driver refuses to break speed limit when tailgated by cop, gets ticket for blocking traffic instead   (northjersey.com) divider line 384
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GBB
2012-12-31 02:22:41 PM  
In Florida, it seems that lane assignments are backwards. I routinely travel on I4, North of Orlando and I always stay in the right, almost completely abandoned, lane. Everyone stays in the middle lane, some people will drive in the left lane, but the right lane is almost always free and clear and I rocket around everyone.

Don't get me wrong. I don't believe I should be passing anyone in the right lane. I drive in the right lane, like I'm supposed to, and if I come up on someone, I respectfully pass them on their left. But, if the right lane is clear, that's where I'll be. It's everyone else that's driving wrong.
 
2012-12-31 02:23:04 PM  
In Texas they just started rolling out the Slower Traffic Keep Right signs on freeways and highways.

I'm all for this. It makes good sense.

The problem is that they are installing them on the right side of the road where left lane hogging cocksuckers won't see them.
 
2012-12-31 02:23:06 PM  
Pigs are sooo gay! He was late gettin' to his boyfriend's house.
 
2012-12-31 02:23:31 PM  
If you are traveling at less than 90 MPH, please remain in the right hand travel lane where you belong.
 
2012-12-31 02:25:11 PM  

serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.


Driving skills aren't that high on my list of things that make a woman "a catch".
 
2012-12-31 02:25:32 PM  

Eve L. Koont: If there's no cars within a mile of them why get pissy if someone rides the left lane for a bit?


Because people say things like that then they come upon traffic farther ahead or get in the habit and it becomes a problem.

Just follow the farking rules. It's amazing how much more smoothly traffic flows in most places if people just learn to follow the basic rules the roads were designed for and don't try making up their own or making excuses for why it's okay for them to break the rules "this time".
 
2012-12-31 02:26:22 PM  
Move the fark over you stupid biatchtard.

Left lane hogs suck.
 
2012-12-31 02:27:14 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: "There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed,  thinking this was OK."

Well, I would hope one of the things they'll teach her in that defensive driving class is not to travel alongside a tractor-trailer unit for any length of time.  If one of those blows a tire while you're alongside it, you could very well be toast.  The percussion impact can be powerful enough to knock you right off the road.

I was travelling on a country road a few years back, and the vehicle in front of me was a dump truck - and it was almost a half mile ahead of me.  It blew a tire, and I could feel the percussion impact of the blast from that far back.  I can just about imagine what it would have felt like if I were significantly closer.

If you find yourself next to a large truck of some sort, the best thing to do is to either speed up and get in front of it, or slow down and get behind it.  Don't just continue to travel beside it.


This. And diaf to folks who somehow never learned this, especially on rainy days where you have to contend with backwash while dopey can't find a way to pass in a timely manner.
 
2012-12-31 02:28:46 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: KimNorth: Good! I so hate these control freaks who get off on holding up traffic just because they can, move the fark over you asshat!

I don't think that's it, I think they're just cowards and idiots. I frequently see people pull from an onramp straight across the left most lane then proceed to not pass and jam up the road behind them.

I usually wait a bit then just start flashing my lights periodically. If it goes on long enough I wait until it's clear again to the right and just move over at which point they get the horn and the finger out the window.

I'm sure these idiots think they're doing nothing wrong and have no idea why people are always being so mean and nasty to them all the time time or why there's always a mile long line of pissed off people behind them...


They also think all other drivers are dangerous psychos, having never made the connection to their driving habits
 
2012-12-31 02:29:20 PM  
If she needed to speed a bit to get around the truck she would have been fine. A long time ago I volunteered for a local police department and got to go on ride-alongs. All of the Milwaukee-suburban police departments go by the following guidelines when pulling over speeders:

5 mph over - they will ignore you, feel free!
10mph over - they will most likely ignore you, unless it's early morning or late evening and they are bored
15mph over - this is the magic number, they will pull you over just about 100% of the time for doing this or higher

I tend to always drive 5mph over the limit and have never gotten pulled over or a ticket for doing so (I've driven past cops doing that and they just laugh and keep eating their donuts). So ya, she probably should have hopped up to 5mph over and stop being a wimp.
 
2012-12-31 02:29:33 PM  
Sitting next to a truck for three minutes sounds like a really stupid idea. Then again, I'm the sort of person that will sit in the left lane, trailing behind the truck until it is completely clear for me to pass the truck. Then I accelerate so that I can pass the entire length of the truck in one action.

But that's just me. I just got my license a month ago, so I obviously know nothing.
 
2012-12-31 02:29:35 PM  
Good for the cop. Get the fark out of the way, biatch!
 
2012-12-31 02:29:46 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: "There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed,  thinking this was OK."

Well, I would hope one of the things they'll teach her in that defensive driving class is not to travel alongside a tractor-trailer unit for any length of time.  If one of those blows a tire while you're alongside it, you could very well be toast.  The percussion impact can be powerful enough to knock you right off the road.

I was travelling on a country road a few years back, and the vehicle in front of me was a dump truck - and it was almost a half mile ahead of me.  It blew a tire, and I could feel the percussion impact of the blast from that far back.  I can just about imagine what it would have felt like if I were significantly closer.

If you find yourself next to a large truck of some sort, the best thing to do is to either speed up and get in front of it, or slow down and get behind it.  Don't just continue to travel beside it.


She did not want to speed up and get charged for speeding. She did not want to slow down with a car 12 feet off her bumper.

Also, was the police car marked as such?
 
2012-12-31 02:30:23 PM  
One thing we may all be missing, the truck driver beside her. He sure as hell knew she was there and sure as hell could've slowed his ass down a notch to let her pass him without her speeding,,, oooor the dickhead might have even been matching her speed to trap her in front of the cop.

/don't needs education, manners, or common sense to drive truck
 
2012-12-31 02:30:54 PM  

Theaetetus: If true, she essentially set up a rolling roadblock with the truck for 3 miles.


She didn't "block" anyone who was obeying the law and going the speed limit. She only "blocked" people trying to BREAK THE LAW.

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2012-12-31 02:31:45 PM  

Buffet: Pigs are sooo gay! He was late gettin' to his boyfriend's house.


Looks like /b/ let the kids out early today for the holidays.
 
2012-12-31 02:32:31 PM  

KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Put her to death. Anyone who makes a habit of driving in the left lane while not passing the car to their right deserves a slow painful death. I'm not kidding.


That would probably take care of most of the people in Ohio (and most Ohio drivers in WV)....
 
2012-12-31 02:32:55 PM  

Ohlookabutterfly: Evil Mackerel: serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.

She sounds like the kind of girl that starts a fight in a bar and expects you to fight it.

Never let your womans mouth write a check that your ass is gonna have to cash.

/ obscure Steve Buscemi quote?


Should have used the opening to Way of the Gub
 
2012-12-31 02:33:00 PM  

RevMark: In Texas they just started rolling out the Slower Traffic Keep Right signs on freeways and highways.


You can't drive 10 miles on a Texas Interstate highway without seeing a "Left Lane For Passing Only" sign. And they are all on the left side. And about 10% of drivers ignore them.
 
2012-12-31 02:34:29 PM  

bhcompy: Impeding the flow of traffic laws exist in many states, and they're generally not tied to the speed limit, rather reasonable speeds ...


So, your argument is that it's "reasonable" to break the speed limit???

The Law might disagree.
 
2012-12-31 02:37:30 PM  

mbillips: SPEED UP SLOW DOWN, YOU IDIOT, IT'S SAFER!


Now it's intelligent.
 
2012-12-31 02:37:48 PM  

fredklein: She didn't "block" anyone who was obeying the law and going the speed limit. She only "blocked" people trying to BREAK THE LAW.


Want to know how I know you're an idiot? KRETP is also a law........
 
2012-12-31 02:38:12 PM  
There is only one good reason to drive in the left lane. At night when there is nobody around you it's good to have an extra lane or two leeway in case a deer is trying to cross the road. Then if you do hit it, you can go off into the median and only risk killing yourself instead of the others on the highway.
 
2012-12-31 02:38:27 PM  

fredklein: bhcompy: Impeding the flow of traffic laws exist in many states, and they're generally not tied to the speed limit, rather reasonable speeds ...

So, your argument is that it's "reasonable" to break the speed limit???

The Law might disagree.


It's a grey area, but the laws are ambiguous for a reason. Slow traffic on a fast moving road is very dangerous.
 
2012-12-31 02:38:33 PM  

Fano: They also think all other drivers are dangerous psychos, having never made the connection to their driving habits


Like old people braking and accelerating at the same time with a blinker on for ten miles and going 15 under the speed limit on a clear day....

"Why are all those horrible young people always yelling at me!? Why can't they learn how to drive!!?"

/ I'm not the greatest driver in the world by a long shot, but at least I try to not actively piss other people off....
 
2012-12-31 02:38:59 PM  

serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.


Rarely is a Jersey girl, "a catch."  Maybe catch and release if your desperate.
 
2012-12-31 02:39:33 PM  

JeffMD: All sounds like the cop being a dick, except.. he probably wouldn't have given the car a ticket for speeding while passing. For one, even police chiefs say they generally have no business pulling you over unless you are 10 miles over the speed limit. Second, over 3 miles you could have edged passed the truck going 1-2 mph faster. She stayed in place for 3 freaking miles next to a truck.

I hate people who freeze up and suddenly become model citizens of the law at the sigh of a cop car. Just the other day I actually had to swirv into the passing lane cause an idiot droped from 75 to 65 (70sl) when passing a cop car scanning from the side.


Oh, so much this. More so for the ones who hit their brakes because they see a cop on the SIDE OF THE ROAD giving some other poor fool a ticket. Do they think the cop is going to remember they were the ones speeding and come chase them next? (That's not the same thing as slowing when passing an accident scene, btw, although looky-loos need to die also)

This chicklet needs to get her traffic ticket doubled for biatching about it.
 
2012-12-31 02:39:54 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: This text is now purple: Chicago also likes having on-ramps enter from the left and having the right lane subsequently disappear to keep the lane count constant. I can almost understand why they tend to stick left.

They do have quite a few off ramps on the left if you're traveling on certain highways, but that's no excuse for riding the left lane miles from the ramp in light traffic.


Light traffic would be "within the hours of 3am and 5am, unless night construction"?
 
2012-12-31 02:40:34 PM  

martid4: serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.

Rarely is a Jersey girl, "a catch."  Maybe catch and release if your desperate.


Maybe catch and release if your you're desperate.

/ftfm
 
2012-12-31 02:41:02 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: clane: and yall keep voting Democrat...

Smeggy Smurf
Rapeublicans support this too. After they legitimately rape you.


clane
ummm yea, it's not Republicans that create thousands and thousands of new laws every year and slowly take away more and more freedoms. (40,000 new laws signed in this year)
 
2012-12-31 02:41:15 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: AssAsInAssassin: If the cop was in such a hurry, why didn't he proceed when she pulled over? Sounds to me like he was trolling the highway.

That, sir, is a tautology.


It is what it is.
 
2012-12-31 02:41:26 PM  

kpaxoid: She did not want to slow down with a car 12 feet off her bumper.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that if you ease up on the gas pedal so you slow down gradually, and then move over to the right when you're no longer beside the truck, that you won't be in any more danger of being rear-ended than you already are in this situation.  And this process shouldn't take any farkin' three miles to accomplish.
 
2012-12-31 02:41:59 PM  
FTFA "Too few drivers, it seems, understand the meaning of road signs that encourage us to "Stay right.""

If you don't understand this, then turn your license in. There's a very good chance that you are a danger to yourself and others. Learn how to drive. Study the rules, and re-take the driver's license exam.
 
2012-12-31 02:42:26 PM  

ZeroPly: Not an emergency, officer? Then drive the speed limit like everyone else, sh*tbag.

 
2012-12-31 02:42:27 PM  

LtDarkstar: If she needed to speed a bit to get around the truck she would have been fine. A long time ago I volunteered for a local police department and got to go on ride-alongs. All of the Milwaukee-suburban police departments go by the following guidelines when pulling over speeders:

5 mph over - they will ignore you, feel free!
10mph over - they will most likely ignore you, unless it's early morning or late evening and they are bored
15mph over - this is the magic number, they will pull you over just about 100% of the time for doing this or higher

I tend to always drive 5mph over the limit and have never gotten pulled over or a ticket for doing so (I've driven past cops doing that and they just laugh and keep eating their donuts). So ya, she probably should have hopped up to 5mph over and stop being a wimp.


That's the Northeast rules. In Atlanta, anything less than 15 over is fine. 25 over is OK, depending on where you are (80 in a 55 on the downtown expressway is perfectly fine, on the rare occasions that the road is empty enough to go that fast). 95 in a 70 on the open highway is not OK, but 85 generally is fine.

If they would just implement mandatory driver's ed, and teach the kids that the left lane is called the PASSING lane, and enforce staying out of it except to pass, we'd all get there quicker, with fewer wrecks, like they do in Europe.
 
2012-12-31 02:42:43 PM  
I just love all the people here who complain that drivers should obey one law (stray right except to pass) so they can go and break another law (speed limit).

Obey one law, so you're out of the way for me to break another law!!

How about we ALL obey the speed limit? Then the 'stay right' law is irrelevant- with everyone going the speed limit, no one needs to pass! And we can use both lanes of the road.
 
2012-12-31 02:42:46 PM  

NightOwl2255: RevMark: In Texas they just started rolling out the Slower Traffic Keep Right signs on freeways and highways.

You can't drive 10 miles on a Texas Interstate highway without seeing a "Left Lane For Passing Only" sign. And they are all on the left side. And about 10% of drivers ignore them.


I've done quite a bit driving around Texas these past couple of months for the holidays and what not. I rarely see one of those signs on the left side of the road. In San Antonio you see them on the freeways... some in other cities. But on the highways I always see them on the right.

Whatever. YMMV.

TxDOT adding thousands of left lane passing signs
 
2012-12-31 02:43:45 PM  

LtDarkstar: If she needed to speed a bit to get around the truck she would have been fine. A long time ago I volunteered for a local police department and got to go on ride-alongs. All of the Milwaukee-suburban police departments go by the following guidelines when pulling over speeders:

5 mph over - they will ignore you, feel free!
10mph over - they will most likely ignore you, unless it's early morning or late evening and they are bored
15mph over - this is the magic number, they will pull you over just about 100% of the time for doing this or higher

I tend to always drive 5mph over the limit and have never gotten pulled over or a ticket for doing so (I've driven past cops doing that and they just laugh and keep eating their donuts). So ya, she probably should have hopped up to 5mph over and stop being a wimp.


Even the speed cameras seem to work that way. I think they don't snap your pick until 10 mph over.
 
2012-12-31 02:43:50 PM  
A policeman/patrolman isn't going to pull somebody over for going 1mph over the speed limit, especially in such a situation when doing so would effectively clear a roadblock.

I drive about 100 miles per day, and so am in situations similar to this often. Just increase 1 or 2 mph, then move over and clear out of the lane. Never been pulled over for it; the cop generally just wants to be on his/her way.

It's about farking time somebody started enforcing the laws that are intended to maintain a clean flow of traffic. Kudos to this guy.
 
2012-12-31 02:44:02 PM  

vudukungfu: Quantum Apostrophe: Isn't there a "make way" law?

For cops, yeah.
You don't have to like them, but GTF out of their way.
Let them go and stay off their radar.


Couldn't you plead that the truck driver was at fault for not obeying the legal responsibility of letting you pass. If you give the signals, they are legally required to do all in their ability to let you get around them. Since the truck didn't allow this, nor could she break the speed limit without committing a crime, nor slow down without causing an accident because the cop was tailgating you are pretty much screwed. The judge is going to believe the cop 99.9% of the time even if they are lying, put you in an impossible situation, or flat out cause the accident, unless you got a recording of it and hope they don't prosecute you for making illegal recordings of cops.
 
2012-12-31 02:44:06 PM  
"There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed, thinking this was OK."

I see 2 tickets:

1. Reckless driving (driving in the trucks blind spot for 3 miles)
2. Impeding the flow of traffic (rolling road block)

I would fine her the max and suspend license for a year,
 
2012-12-31 02:44:57 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong but drivers' manuals state that to pass another vehicle you need to "accelerate" in order to pass, so there is no breaking the speed limit when passing another vehicle. It's safety.


/does not mean you can be perpetually passing vehicles
// not even during rush hours
 
2012-12-31 02:46:10 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

got the cruise control set on 45
 
2012-12-31 02:47:02 PM  
I am not a fan of cops, but she remained in the passing lane for THREE MILES! The whole time she was driving next to a truck totally blocking traffic.

She deserved the ticket.
 
2012-12-31 02:47:43 PM  

RevMark: NightOwl2255: RevMark: In Texas they just started rolling out the Slower Traffic Keep Right signs on freeways and highways.

You can't drive 10 miles on a Texas Interstate highway without seeing a "Left Lane For Passing Only" sign. And they are all on the left side. And about 10% of drivers ignore them.

I've done quite a bit driving around Texas these past couple of months for the holidays and what not. I rarely see one of those signs on the left side of the road. In San Antonio you see them on the freeways... some in other cities. But on the highways I always see them on the right.

Whatever. YMMV.

TxDOT adding thousands of left lane passing signs


i like it the way it is. the idiots (at least in the houston area) would bolt to the left lane as soon as they entered I-45. i would just stay in the middle/right lane and pass everyone.
 
2012-12-31 02:47:50 PM  
How is this a story? I'd like to buy the cop a beer, I wish there were more cops around here pulling over farktards that stay in the passing lane while going the same speed as the other lanes.

Keep Right Except to Pass - what is so confusing about that?

If she didn't want to speed, here's an idea, take your little foot off of the accelerator and I promise your car will slow down. Then, put on your turn signal and switch lanes. It's not entrapment you farking farktards, it's farking common sense.
 
2012-12-31 02:48:22 PM  

fredklein: Theaetetus: If true, she essentially set up a rolling roadblock with the truck for 3 miles.

She didn't "block" anyone who was obeying the law and going the speed limit. She only "blocked" people trying to BREAK THE LAW.


Reasonable people understand that the "Speed Limit" is really just a driving tax assigned by a random lottery and a job creation program for expensivly maintained agents of the State. If we really wanted to modern technology would allow for speeding tickets to be assigned the second a vehicle went over the speed limit on any State road. But then revenue would dry up and police would sit idle most of the day with unfunded pension plans.

That's why blocking passing lane laws in most States disregard the speed limit. It sucks when the cop is behind you and it creates a catch-22, but you can either creep up for the pass or put your signal on while slowly breaking, hoping the cop is paying attention and will understand you are changing lanes.

Probably shouldnt have been in that lane beforehand if you weren't intending to pass.
 
2012-12-31 02:48:22 PM  

lexnaturalis: Considering my wife just got a ticket for a rear-end collision in which the car in front of her suddenly slammed on the brakes, I'm going to say you're simply making stuff up.


I imagine the other party got a ticket as well. The cops, at least in Tennessee, don't decide who's at fault anymore in the larger jurisdictions. They ticket both drivers, and have them fight it out in traffic court.
 
2012-12-31 02:49:13 PM  
Buy a faster car. I've been stuck in the left lane before when nobody would give me some space to get over when a cop was behind me. Just downshift and blow the doors off of the crown vic.
 
2012-12-31 02:49:31 PM  
The right-hand lane is not a ghetto for defensive drivers! You fascist bastards!

/actually I don't mind staying the fark of your dumb-ass way. I prefer you in front of me where I can see what dumb-ass thing you're going to do next.
//u dumas
 
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