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(North Jersey)   Driver refuses to break speed limit when tailgated by cop, gets ticket for blocking traffic instead   (northjersey.com) divider line 384
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2012-12-31 02:04:00 PM

vinnydoz007: In this case, the woman may have been in the wrong. But ive experienced a similar incident. And i didnt want to speed either with the cop on my ass, and there was a line of cars in the middle lane blocking me.


Then why were you in the passing lane to begin with?
 
2012-12-31 02:04:04 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / no, I didn't bother reading pages 2 and 3.


There were two more pages?
 
2012-12-31 02:04:11 PM

shinji3i: How does a story like this come to be? Someone received a traffic violation and then informed the local mediablogged it?


/FTFY
//Also GTFO of the "fast lane" there is a reason why its called the "fast lane" you farktard!!!
 
2012-12-31 02:04:15 PM
I don't know about traffic laws in all states, but don't most have speed limits of X means you can go X+5 or X+10 to pass? I know of at least two states, and I presume a third but can't be assed to look it up to verify, but I was under the impression passing was a common exception, specifically so you are not impeding traffic.
 
2012-12-31 02:04:16 PM
3 miles is enough time and distance to get pass the truck with out going 5 miles over or slowing down and dropping behind . The question is did she have a Florida tag on the car ?
 
2012-12-31 02:04:18 PM

bhcompy: lexnaturalis: Considering my wife just got a ticket for a rear-end collision in which the car in front of her suddenly slammed on the brakes, I'm going to say you're simply making stuff up.

Depends on what you can prove. Install your own dash cam like the Russians do to protect yourself from liability.


I'm seriously considering it.
 
2012-12-31 02:04:24 PM
traveling to work in newark years ago i often saw state troopers on the NJTP doing 80-85 a good 12 to 36" behind the car in front of them. one hand on the wheel while they intensely scrutinized your shiat in the next lane. hard arse no fear mother farkers, those boys. must have scared the shiat out of the car in front of them. route 80 traffic also gets insane. seeing 12-15 cars lock it up in a row at high speed and make the rear ends jump in the air at once - NASCAR should be that sick.
 
2012-12-31 02:05:10 PM

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat...


Rapeublicans support this too. After they legitimately rape you.
 
2012-12-31 02:05:27 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Cop has a dash cam. He may get in some minor trouble for following too closely (if he even was)


That made me laugh so hard the dog started barking at me... cop getting in trouble for breaking the law, that's hilarious.
 
2012-12-31 02:05:30 PM
Also, I find it odd that people don't know to keep right. Most(all?) states require driving school. I did mine in '99. Stay right unless you want to pass was pounded in my head more than anything else, and that's in California where staying right isn't possible in the perpetual traffic jam.
 
2012-12-31 02:05:31 PM
She should have just opened fire on the tailgater and "TAH DAH!!!", PROBLEM SOLVED!
 
2012-12-31 02:05:53 PM
I-75 halfway up Michigan, only left lane open, rest being repaired. 45 MPH speed limit in the construction zone. For 20 miles state cop rides about 10 feet off my rear bumper, no lights, no siren. Drift up to 55 despite speed limit, cop just moves a little closer. End of the construction zone, change to right lane, he accelerates to about 5 above speed limit and saunters on.
 
2012-12-31 02:05:58 PM

vinnydoz007: In this case, the woman may have been in the wrong. But ive experienced a similar incident. And i didnt want to speed either with the cop on my ass, and there was a line of cars in the middle lane blocking me. I finally decided to speed up to get around them, and was immediatly pulled over. I explained to the cop exactly what happened, and he didnt disagree. He was just trying to meet his quota, so he wrote me 3 BS tickets which i fought and didnt pay a dime. But even the cop admitted, he could easily give me a speeding ticket, and id have no reason to argue. It is messed up when they pull this shiat. But i mean, its just part of driving. When these guys have to make quotas, they kinda have to do this shiat sometimes.


I smell bull shiat.
 
2012-12-31 02:06:34 PM
FTFA: But how do you cope when you're doing the speed limit in the left lane and the tailgater is a cop?

By getting in the proper, right lane?

Here in Michigan, on limited access roads (highways) with two lanes in a single direction, the left lane is for PASSING and authorized vehicles. You will get ticketed by State Troopers for this sort of nonsense. If somebody comes up behind me in the passing lane, and I'm not stuck behind some idiot, I get over as soon as I can. When I pass, I pass, -  that means at least 10mph over the speed of the vehicle I am passing, not 1 or 2mph. If I won't go more than 1 or 2mph faster then the guy I'm trying to pass, why bother passing him?
 
2012-12-31 02:07:14 PM

JeffMD: I hate people who freeze up and suddenly become model citizens of the law at the sigh of a cop car. Just the other day I actually had to swirv into the passing lane cause an idiot droped from 75 to 65 (70sl) when passing a cop car scanning from the side.


You had to swirv? Urban dictionary definition for swirv - a person who has sexual fantasies about being fed grapes by an earthworm.

Seriously, if you had to swerve to avoid someone slowing down from 75 to 65, you were following too close or you weren't paying attention to begin with.
 
2012-12-31 02:07:44 PM
Every farking day I have to deal with human slugs who run rolling roadblocks from the left lane. How do you pass a DL test without knowing that blocking the passing lane is bad? She deserves a ticket. My compliments to this cop.

It doesn't help that I live in area where a critical mass of people have warrants, so they always cruise 5 miles under. Many will make u-turns if they see rollers ahead.
 
2012-12-31 02:09:02 PM

serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.


You'd think the second her window rolls down she would already be crying her eyes out.  I have a funny feeling she's used this tactic with dada before when she wants her way.
 
2012-12-31 02:09:27 PM
Doesn't Jersey use the universal road sign for stay to the riight, pass on the left?

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2012-12-31 02:09:30 PM

KrispyKritter: traveling to work in newark years ago i often saw state troopers on the NJTP doing 80-85 a good 12 to 36" behind the car in front of them. one hand on the wheel while they intensely scrutinized your shiat in the next lane. hard arse no fear mother farkers, those boys. must have scared the shiat out of the car in front of them. route 80 traffic also gets insane. seeing 12-15 cars lock it up in a row at high speed and make the rear ends jump in the air at once - NASCAR should be that sick.


Apparently, you never experienced the traffic circles that used to be on Route 35 in Wall Twp... especially the 34/35 circle. Makes NASCAR look lame.  They have since been replaced, but you needed to develop ninja driving skills to negotiate those bad boys.
 
2012-12-31 02:09:39 PM
If the cop was in such a hurry, why didn't he proceed when she pulled over? Sounds to me like he was trolling the highway.
 
2012-12-31 02:10:03 PM
You can and should speed up to yield the right of way in NJ. The article says the limit was 65. She could have done 67 and not legally been able to get a ticket, due to radar gun calibration limitations. She *should* have put her right turn signal on, sped up to 67 and done herself two favors: first, she gets out from beside a big truck, which is dangerous; second: she yields right of way to an emergency vehicle.

Clearly, she was in the wrong. She should take the ticket and the points.

/Instead she boohoos to the press and her daddy.
/Whatever.
 
2012-12-31 02:10:04 PM

lexnaturalis: Considering my wife just got a ticket for a rear-end collision in which the car in front of her suddenly slammed on the brakes...


So? Unless there's more to that story, why would you be surprised she'd get a ticket? I got rear-ended once because some dipshiat stopped suddenly right in front of me for literally no reason at all. Guy who hit me still got the ticket.
 
2012-12-31 02:10:09 PM
What no HERO tag for the cop?

Stay out of the left lane!
 
2012-12-31 02:10:32 PM
Women, especially women in their teens and 20s, should be required to pass a special interstate driving test before they're allowed on it. SPEED UP, YOU IDIOT, IT'S SAFER!
 
2012-12-31 02:10:35 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: I've logged 250,000+ miles driving on NJ highways in the past 12 years going to and from work.

The cops on the interstates/Turnpike/GSP will give you a LOT of leeway with the rules, unless you're driving while black.

Three miles is more than enough time to get over. The cop isn't going to give you a ticket for going 75 in a 65 to get out of his/her way.


What speed do the big rigs go? How hard is it to pass in a 65 zone?

In the UK and most of Europe, they're usually restricted to 56 mph.
 
2012-12-31 02:12:14 PM

bhcompy: Also, I find it odd that people don't know to keep right. Most(all?) states require driving school. I did mine in '99. Stay right unless you want to pass was pounded in my head more than anything else, and that's in California where staying right isn't possible in the perpetual traffic jam.


I don't know the laws everywhere else, but in Michigan, you can bypass the driving school if you wait until you're 18. At that point all you have to do is take a written test, drive on a permit for a month(or 30 days, whatever), and take the actual drivers test. $75 start to finish(most people opt to take the drivers school so they can get their license at 16, though).

But that's besides the point, since most highways have a sign every .5 miles that remind you to keep right except to pass.

LesserEvil: Here in Michigan, on limited access roads (highways) with two lanes in a single direction, the left lane is for PASSING and authorized vehicles. You will get ticketed by State Troopers for this sort of nonsense.


You will also get ticketed for not moving over for stopped emergency vehicles(my dad learned that the hard way).
 
2012-12-31 02:12:51 PM

AssAsInAssassin: If the cop was in such a hurry, why didn't he proceed when she pulled over? Sounds to me like he was trolling the highway.


That, sir, is a tautology.
 
2012-12-31 02:12:53 PM

ChipNASA: She should have just opened fire on the tailgater and "TAH DAH!!!", PROBLEM SOLVED!


This. We all know packing heat gives you an inflated ego and extra courage, why, with a loaded glock in her lap she would have had the strength to speed up and go into the next lane. GUNS are the answer to all of lifes little problems!
 
2012-12-31 02:12:55 PM
I love any thread that sets the "all police officers abuse their authority" crowd against the "I hate slow drivers" crowd. I plan on showing this article to my roommate to watch his head explode.
 
2012-12-31 02:14:08 PM
CSB time:

Once got pulled over on hwy 101 in CA for driving 15 over the limit - broad daylight (two lanes each direction)

Told the cop "sorry officer, I had been stuck behind to idiots that were driving side-by-side for miles, so when I finally had the chance to pass, I guess I went overboard"  (a story that, while not factual, was actually almost partially true)

He let me go without so much as a warning.

/CSB
 
2012-12-31 02:14:29 PM
Drivers who fail to keep right are almost as bad as cyclists, gun owners, and atheists
 
2012-12-31 02:14:34 PM
I remember cops used to drive in the right lane so they wouldn't interfere with traffic.
Now they are just dicks.
 
2012-12-31 02:14:35 PM

Jaws_Victim: ChipNASA: She should have just opened fire on the tailgater and "TAH DAH!!!", PROBLEM SOLVED!

This. We all know packing heat gives you an inflated ego and extra courage, why, with a loaded glock in her lap she would have had the strength to speed up and go into the next lane. GUNS are the answer to all of lifes little problems!


wrong thread, you want the "help me hone my strawman skills" thread a few down from this one.
 
2012-12-31 02:15:39 PM
I only drive up to the speed limit, but at least I have the common sense to stay out of the passing lane. Lady's ticket is well deserved.
 
2012-12-31 02:15:47 PM

opiumpoopy: Smoky Dragon Dish: I've logged 250,000+ miles driving on NJ highways in the past 12 years going to and from work.

The cops on the interstates/Turnpike/GSP will give you a LOT of leeway with the rules, unless you're driving while black.

Three miles is more than enough time to get over. The cop isn't going to give you a ticket for going 75 in a 65 to get out of his/her way.

What speed do the big rigs go? How hard is it to pass in a 65 zone?

In the UK and most of Europe, they're usually restricted to 56 mph.


In NJ, the tractor trailers can go as fast as the cars. (This is not true for all 50 states) If the highway is three lanes, tractor-trailers/busses cannot drive in the left-most lane. I have noted that police in NJ will NEVER pull you over for going 5-10 mph over the limit. Although, I am white.
 
2012-12-31 02:16:04 PM

opiumpoopy: What speed do the big rigs go? How hard is it to pass in a 65 zone?


If they're limited and from a fairly responsible trucking company, usually 65 mph.

If they're from Alabama with bald tires, brakes that smell like a magnesium fire and a guy bouncing up and down in the seat with eyes the size of dinner plates and enough drool running down his face to drown a cat in about 95 mph.

Seriously... some of those small-time southern truck outfits hire some seriously terrifying motherfarkers to drive some seriously terrifying safety violations...
 
2012-12-31 02:16:27 PM
As a rule, police aren't terrorists.
www.addictinginfo.org
So right.
The cops are better equipped than some filthy terrorist!
 
2012-12-31 02:16:56 PM
Is it really illegal ton pass on the right?!


Think rush hour stop and go traffic before you call me an idiot.
 
2012-12-31 02:17:31 PM

BronyMedic: EnviroDude: citizens arrest the cop for following too closely.

What law states the definition of "following too closely", or makes it an arrestable offense? Congrats, your jailhouse lawyering has now gotten someone arrested for a number of felonies in most states. (Kidnapping, False Imprisonment, Assault with a Deadly Weapon, etc.)

EnviroDude: /and if that doesn't work, next time brake for an amoeba and get rear ended

Grats bro. You just bought the county a new police cruiser by causing an accident which you are 100% at fault for. (Thanks to Ambulance Chasing, the laws regarding rear-end collisions have now changed to either shared responsibility, or the lead car being responsible for doing just that) You do know those things have cameras, right?


Many cop unions are pushing for cameras to be removed, but you points still stand.
 
2012-12-31 02:17:33 PM

MycroftHolmes: EnviroDude: citizens arrest the cop for following too closely.

/and if that doesn't work, next time brake for an amoeba and get rear ended
//sue

Please stop having opinions. You aren't ready yet.


Unless the match your's, AmIRight? ( "
 
2012-12-31 02:18:39 PM

silky76: Popcorn Johnny: Come to Chicago, people ride the left lane here more than anywhere I've been.  People will sit in the left lane when there isn't another car within a mile of them.

Truth!


If there's no cars within a mile of them why get pissy if someone rides the left lane for a bit? There's no one for at least a mile so they're obviously not in your way either.

I hate drivers as well that think the road belongs to them alone, but I also can't stand those that biatch about everything.
 
2012-12-31 02:19:05 PM

filter: Is it really illegal ton pass on the right?!


Think rush hour stop and go traffic before you call me an idiot.


On freeways, no it's not.
 
2012-12-31 02:19:17 PM

LesserEvil: FTFA: But how do you cope when you're doing the speed limit in the left lane and the tailgater is a cop?

By getting in the proper, right lane?

Here in Michigan, on limited access roads (highways) with two lanes in a single direction, the left lane is for PASSING and authorized vehicles. You will get ticketed by State Troopers for this sort of nonsense. If somebody comes up behind me in the passing lane, and I'm not stuck behind some idiot, I get over as soon as I can. When I pass, I pass, -  that means at least 10mph over the speed of the vehicle I am passing, not 1 or 2mph. If I won't go more than 1 or 2mph faster then the guy I'm trying to pass, why bother passing him?


God I miss this. I went home to Michigan over the summer and hitting the state line on I-94 was like turning a switch; suddenly every driver on the road, traveling at speeds ranging from 10mph over the limit to 30mph over the limit, were able to get where they needed to go with minimal hassle. People would recklessly cut you off to get into the left lane, but immediately speed up and pass, the move back over.

A few people get shot and suddenly there is courtesy.... whodathunkit?
 
2012-12-31 02:20:20 PM

filter: Is it really illegal ton pass on the right?!


In many places, yes.

filter: Think rush hour stop and go traffic before you call me an idiot.


I don't see what this has to do with anything. You don't pass on the right because it's not safe most of the time since that's where the ramps are on most highways. Especially in a three lane situation where you then having people from both the outside lanes trying to get into the middle lane to pass.
 
2012-12-31 02:20:20 PM
Illinois also has a left lane law for Wisconsin drivers to ignore.
 
2012-12-31 02:20:21 PM
So was the cop's rush justified or were there only two glazed left over at the local Dunkin?
 
2012-12-31 02:20:58 PM
I was doing about 85 in the left lane (limit was 65) and got pulled over. Cop says, "the reason I pulled you over was you were a little too close to that car in front of you. I know it's frustrating being behind a driver that won't move to the right, but following too closely is one of the leading causes of accidents on the highway. Be more patient next time." Never says a word about the fact I was doing 20 over the limit. Let me go on my way.
 
2012-12-31 02:21:29 PM

Eve L. Koont: If there's no cars within a mile of them why get pissy if someone rides the left lane for a bit? There's no one for at least a mile so they're obviously not in your way either.

I hate drivers as well that think the road belongs to them alone, but I also can't stand those that biatch about everything.


Because eventually they're going to find themselves in traffic again, usually coming up from the rear.  Not that hard to figure out, was it?
 
2012-12-31 02:21:41 PM

Evil Mackerel: serial_crusher: This woman is 20 years old and, not only is she stupid enough to know that the left lane is for passing, but she's also letting her dad fight her battles for her?  Sounds like a catch, guys.

She sounds like the kind of girl that starts a fight in a bar and expects you to fight it.


Never let your womans mouth write a check that your ass is gonna have to cash.

/ obscure Steve Buscemi quote?
 
2012-12-31 02:22:07 PM

filter: Is it really illegal ton pass on the right?!

Think rush hour stop and go traffic before you call me an idiot.

Where there is a law that requires slower traffic to pull over to the right, no passing on the right.

Where there is no such law, there is no problem passing someone on the right who chooses to drive slow.
 
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