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2012-12-31 07:12:42 AM  
I would have liked to see Montana
 
2012-12-31 07:14:57 AM  
Get to the chhhoppppaaaa!!!
 
2012-12-31 07:21:30 AM  
Y'know, I seen me a mermaid once. I even seen me a shark eat an octopus. But I ain't never seen no phantom Russian submarine.
 
2012-12-31 09:58:31 AM  
Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies
 
2012-12-31 10:43:56 AM  
Obvious.

One ping. One ping only.

Or just the tip....
 
2012-12-31 11:03:01 AM  
i212.photobucket.com

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2012-12-31 11:16:22 AM  
when he reached the new world, cortez burned his ships. as a result, his crew were well motivated.
 
2012-12-31 11:17:08 AM  
Those crazy Ivans
 
2012-12-31 11:20:44 AM  
Russians don't take a dump without a plan, Son.
 
2012-12-31 11:21:37 AM  
I have an emergency supply, but I'm only allowed to use that in time of war. Mister, you don't get me on that submarine and that's just what you'll have!
 
2012-12-31 11:47:50 AM  
Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.
 
2012-12-31 12:07:40 PM  
Shuck it Trebek!
 
2012-12-31 12:08:40 PM  
You're terminated, farker!
 
2012-12-31 12:10:22 PM  
All Borei class submarines are equipped with a floating rescue chamber designed to fit in the whole crew.
 
2012-12-31 12:14:57 PM  
"We named the dog Indiana."
 
2012-12-31 12:16:34 PM  

WelldeadLink: All Borei class submarines are equipped with a floating rescue chamber designed to fit in the whole crew.


I found that interesting. It's like the Russians know their subs tend to have dives > surfacings.

Still, I wonder if the Boreis are really quiet enough to not be found. Much quieter than previous boomers does not mean we can't find and follow them. But then again, the Ohio class is now 15 years old for the newest ship in the class... I imagine they may not be as hard to find as they once were. It looks like we aren't anywhere close to a replacement design for those.
 
2012-12-31 12:18:28 PM  

johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.


I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole
 
2012-12-31 12:22:34 PM  

Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole


I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?
 
2012-12-31 12:23:28 PM  
Yeah, horses're fascinating animals. Dumb as fenceposts but very intuitive. In that way they're not too different from high school girls: they may not have a brain in their head but they do know all the boys want to fark 'em.
 
2012-12-31 12:24:52 PM  

akula: But then again, the Ohio class is now 15 years old for the newest ship in the class... I imagine they may not be as hard to find as they once were. It looks like we aren't anywhere close to a replacement design for those.


IIRC, the area of detection for an Ohio is almost the size of the hull, so the only way to catch it on passive sonar is to have your ear up against it. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

/trying to find the quote where the soon-to-be-dead political officer said "Ours is better.", failing
 
2012-12-31 12:34:57 PM  
No ticket.
 
2012-12-31 12:35:29 PM  

pudding7: Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole

I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?


The only things they had in common were that there was a Russian sub, and some of the character names.

I've only seen the movie once, but I remember that everything involving the US and Russian fleets harassing each other was removed, the whole subplot with the American spy was removed, the whole subplot with Skip Tyler's backstory, and his developing a program to calculate the Red October's sound profile, which led to his being in the right place at the right time to come up with a plan to get the crew off of the October. In the book, they scuttled an old American nuclear sub instead of exploding an Alfa - that came much later, and they destroyed it by ramming it broadside because the two American subs sheperding the October could not legally fire their torpedoes.

Oh the subplot with the British carrier, and the four American agents that died when their helicopter crashed (leading to Jack Ryan having to take a chopper to the rescue ship since he was the only American agent in the vicinity...)

I understand the need for reduction, but they way they did it was so haphazard.
 
2012-12-31 12:38:11 PM  
The
 
2012-12-31 12:45:05 PM  
It's not noiseless.

The Russian media has been yelling about it for a couple of years now.

//Quit pissing, Yuri; the Kapitain knows what he's doing.
 
2012-12-31 12:46:48 PM  

pudding7: Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole

I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?


In the book, they tricked the evacuated crew into thinking the Red October was destroyed by scuttling a decommissioned American sub underwater so the crew would see the explosion, so the Navy and CIA came off as being very clever. In the movie, they got lucky because the Akula attacked the Red October at JUST the right time to blow up act as a stand in for the Red October. Had this not happened, the crew would not have gone back home and reported the Red October scuttled. The movie also made it seem like the Navy destroyed the Red October, which would could have been used as a pretense for war based on the crew accounts, since it looked like a battle occurred between the Dallas and the Red October prior to it being destroyed, compared to the book where it looked to them like Ramius scuttled the sub.
 
2012-12-31 12:53:22 PM  

Mister Peejay: IIRC, the area of detection for an Ohio is almost the size of the hull, so the only way to catch it on passive sonar is to have your ear up against it. So we have that going for us, which is nice.


I admit I am far from an expert in such things, but I would expect that the area of detection would be dependent upon the equipment being used to detect it. As Russian sonar improves, I would think the range of detection would also increase.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, but then again, if all this is classified, there might not be any way for a knowledgable person to tell me I'm full of crap. Or at least to back it up with real facts. No point in risking jail to tell some punk on the internet that he's full of crap.
 
2012-12-31 12:57:55 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Intrigued by this development.
 
2012-12-31 12:57:58 PM  
You arrogant ass! You've killed us!
 
2012-12-31 12:58:10 PM  
A great day, comradesh; we shail into hishtory!
 
2012-12-31 01:05:48 PM  
Bond... James Bond
 
2012-12-31 01:08:50 PM  
I would like to have seen Montana...

/the Cold War is over.
/What does Vlad need with a missile ship?
 
2012-12-31 01:15:29 PM  
poop deck
 
2012-12-31 01:18:22 PM  

way south: /the Cold War is over.


The cold war seems to be heating back up.

/it was Paganini
 
2012-12-31 01:24:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: pudding7: Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole

I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?

In the book, they tricked the evacuated crew into thinking the Red October was destroyed by scuttling a decommissioned American sub underwater so the crew would see the explosion, so the Navy and CIA came off as being very clever. In the movie, they got lucky because the Akula attacked the Red October at JUST the right time to blow up act as a stand in for the Red October. Had this not happened, the crew would not have gone back home and reported the Red October scuttled. The movie also made it seem like the Navy destroyed the Red October, which would could have been used as a pretense for war based on the crew accounts, since it looked like a battle occurred between the Dallas and the Red October prior to it being destroyed, compared to the book where it looked to them like Ramius scuttled the sub.


Well in the movie the original plan was to detonate a torpedo to mimic the scuttling of the ship.  Although I find it hard to believe the crew would be able to see any indication of a scuttled ship at all if done at over 1,000ft or so.  Any air bubbles would emerge a couple of miles away from the boats by they time they made it to the surface.  And in the movie, the Navy destroying the boat was done at the request of the Soviet Union, so no pretense for war there.

After I saw the movie I read the book, I don't remember the book that well since it was so long ago, but I don't remember "I, Robot" level differences in the two. Just some condensed or dropped plot lines and maybe a little deus ex machina, which I think is to be expected.
 
2012-12-31 01:25:37 PM  
There can be only one quote: "I'm not Spanish, I'm Egyptian."
 
2012-12-31 01:43:09 PM  

Mister Peejay: pudding7: Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole

I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?

The only things they had in common were that there was a Russian sub, and some of the character names.

I've only seen the movie once, but I remember that everything involving the US and Russian fleets harassing each other was removed, the whole subplot with the American spy was removed, the whole subplot with Skip Tyler's backstory, and his developing a program to calculate the Red October's sound profile, which led to his being in the right place at the right time to come up with a plan to get the crew off of the October. In the book, they scuttled an old American nuclear sub instead of exploding an Alfa - that came much later, and they destroyed it by ramming it broadside because the two American subs sheperding the October could not legally fire their torpedoes.

Oh the subplot with the British carrier, and the four American agents that died when their helicopter crashed (leading to Jack Ryan having to take a chopper to the rescue ship since he was the only American agent in the vicinity...)

I understand the need for reduction, but they way they did it was so haphazard.


Well, most of that is just wrong. About 75% of what you referenced was actually in the movie but was condensed or just alluded to. You can't really have a 12 hour movie so they just picked the main plotline and filled in most of the subplots with dialog.  Which is how most book to movie conversions are done, especially Tom Clancy stuff.  To say that they had "nothing in common" is a little dramatic.
 
2012-12-31 01:44:42 PM  

Mad_Radhu: pudding7: Mister Peejay: johnsoninca: Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.

I think this is the only quote actually from the book.

/which was way better than the movie because it wasn't a 2 hour long plot hole

I don't remember the movie being that different than the book.  What changed to erase the plot from the movie?

In the book, they tricked the evacuated crew into thinking the Red October was destroyed by scuttling a decommissioned American sub underwater so the crew would see the explosion, so the Navy and CIA came off as being very clever. In the movie, they got lucky because the Akula attacked the Red October at JUST the right time to blow up act as a stand in for the Red October. Had this not happened, the crew would not have gone back home and reported the Red October scuttled. The movie also made it seem like the Navy destroyed the Red October, which would could have been used as a pretense for war based on the crew accounts, since it looked like a battle occurred between the Dallas and the Red October prior to it being destroyed, compared to the book where it looked to them like Ramius scuttled the sub.


They also skipped over the british guy that went into the sub along with ryan and later got shot by the kgb spy/cook --- how they had to bring in a doctor from another sub to patch up the people that had been shot, and how jonesy made the russians fall in love with ET
 
2012-12-31 01:47:00 PM  
upload.lhurgoyf.net

Red October, standing by.
 
2012-12-31 01:47:07 PM  
He's hiding at the bottom like an addled schoolboy.
 
2012-12-31 01:47:47 PM  
Also, let's see how long it takes for the US Navy to find this thing.

My guess is not long at all.
 
2012-12-31 01:48:29 PM  
Becareful what you shoot at. Certain things in here don't react well to bullets.
 
2012-12-31 01:49:15 PM  
Thairsh been a terrible acshident.
 
2012-12-31 01:53:13 PM  
It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence.
 
2012-12-31 02:07:47 PM  
He didn't really slip on his tea, did he?
 
2012-12-31 02:10:17 PM  
Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.
 
2012-12-31 02:12:53 PM  

Sybarite: Yeah, horses're fascinating animals. Dumb as fenceposts but very intuitive. In that way they're not too different from high school girls: they may not have a brain in their head but they do know all the boys want to fark 'em.


uh, good quote, wrong sub movie. never trust air you can't see....
 
2012-12-31 02:20:35 PM  
He'd kill us if he had the chance.
 
2012-12-31 02:24:34 PM  
Вхат'с оур миссион? Ресцуе Гиллиган?
 
2012-12-31 02:57:13 PM  
Knew this was one way ticket. But you know I had to come.
 
2012-12-31 03:07:06 PM  
Isn't Russia today the same news organization that pushes 9/11 conspiracy junk?
 
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