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(NBC News)   Kevin Smith says that "Clerks 3" will be his last effort as a director. That is if you count "Clerks" and "Clerks 2" as efforts   (entertainment.nbcnews.com) divider line 30
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2012-12-31 04:36:44 PM
3 votes:

BigMevy: you know, other than a Lesbo switching teams just cause she hadn't found the right guy yet.


You missed the whole point if you thought that's what it was saying. She even flat-out states it in the movie: she's into whoever she's into, regardless of gender. Everyone tried to make it an absolute, you're either gay or straight, but she just loves who she loves and saying, "I'm only ever going to be with men," or, "I'm only ever going to be with women," is artificially cutting yourself off from the possibility of finding your true love. She never "switched sides" because she was never committed to one.
2012-12-31 11:30:33 AM
3 votes:

Wadded Beef: Clerks was okay but Clerks 2 was superfail. I love his speaking engagements, though, as he's a terrific orator. Just hearing the story of his attempts to get Superman remade and the morons he dealt with is worth it alone.


Rosario Dawson dancing on the roof begs to differ.

/Porch monkey for life
2012-12-31 11:25:51 AM
3 votes:
Clerks was okay but Clerks 2 was superfail. I love his speaking engagements, though, as he's a terrific orator. Just hearing the story of his attempts to get Superman remade and the morons he dealt with is worth it alone.
2012-12-31 11:49:36 AM
2 votes:
I couldn't bring myself to watch Clerks when it came out, I was working in a crappy video store at the time. Later when it was released to video, I watched the beginning to the point where he hung the "I assure you we are open" sign and the first person walked in and asked if they were open. I couldn't stand any more of it. I lived that damn movie.

Then I quit my crap job, and the first thing I did was watch it. It was the most cathartic experience I have ever had. I still love it to this day.

//Other Kevin Smith movies not so much.
2012-12-31 11:29:52 AM
2 votes:
fark every single one of you who will hate on this. I say bring it on, I will watch it and hope to enjoy it!

/If it sucks, I'll hate it.
2012-12-31 11:27:35 AM
2 votes:

Wadded Beef: Clerks was okay but Clerks 2 was superfail. I love his speaking engagements, though, as he's a terrific orator. Just hearing the story of his attempts to get Superman remade and the morons he dealt with is worth it alone.


Anne Frank and Helen Keller agree.

/Clerks 2 was incredibly offensive and totally awesome
2012-12-31 11:19:29 AM
2 votes:
What was the last good comedy Kevin Smith made? Dogma?
2012-12-31 11:17:11 AM
2 votes:
0/10
2013-01-01 04:51:56 PM
1 votes:

Biledriver: It'd be better if he just brought the cartoon back.


Jay & Silent Bob's Super Groovy Cartoon Movie coming out in 2013.
2013-01-01 11:11:44 AM
1 votes:
Eh, I liked Clerks 2, but I'm not sure where they would go with a 3rd part. Clerks 2 was very much about Kevin reflecting on how his career really hasn't gone anywhere. He attempted to make a Real Movie, only to not succeed (for what it's worth, I don't think Jersey Girl is bad... it's just not all that good.) and basically going back to exactly where he started while some of his peers went onto better things. I guess it's a bit FWP-ish when put in that context, but I can overlook it because I enjoyed the movie otherwise.


nakedcritic: The only part I didn't care for was Goodman's recap of the events at the end - which I have heard some Smith non-fans say was their FAVORITE part. Go figure.


how odd considering that was the most Kevin Smith-ish part of the movie. I think Red State had good pieces, but not really all that good as a whole.
2012-12-31 10:06:54 PM
1 votes:

shoegaze99: Yeah, I like Kevin Smith the dude far more than I do his work.


I soured on Kevin Smith after the airplane incident.It was bad enough that he didn't purchase a second seat but then putting out podcast after podcast about how evil the airline was instead of taking responsibility for his physical condition was a textbook case of the type of self absorbed entitlement that only comes from living a life surrounded by suck ups.
2012-12-31 04:43:28 PM
1 votes:

Jizz Master Zero: BigMevy: you know, other than a Lesbo switching teams just cause she hadn't found the right guy yet.

You missed the whole point if you thought that's what it was saying. She even flat-out states it in the movie: she's into whoever she's into, regardless of gender. Everyone tried to make it an absolute, you're either gay or straight, but she just loves who she loves and saying, "I'm only ever going to be with men," or, "I'm only ever going to be with women," is artificially cutting yourself off from the possibility of finding your true love. She never "switched sides" because she was never committed to one.


Thing is she was committed to one side for a while until she reexamined her reasons for not dating the guy. She even said so in her little speech to him when he asked her why him.
2012-12-31 04:24:42 PM
1 votes:

FuryOfFirestorm: I thought Kevin said his last movie was going to be a hockey-based comedy called "Hit Something"?


Basically, he wanted to do it as two movies to cover Buddy's (the main character) entire life. Then he sent part 1 it to Jerry Bruckheimer for notes, and Bruckheimer told him about a hockey movie that he's been trying to get off the ground for years, but nobody wants to back it. Smith figured, "If one of the most powerful men in the industry can't get one hockey movie made, how the fark am I going to get two done," and he started trying to combine them into one movie. He started cutting so much stuff that it started to feel too disjointed, so he put it aside to figure out what to do with it. Jason Mewes, of all people, suggested pitching it as a miniseries to one of the cable networks (probably AMC), that way he has plenty of time for it to play out. He did and it's now a go as a miniseries. In the meantime, he felt that he wanted his last directorial credit to be a theatrical film and he'd always said that if there was one movie that he'd break retirement for, it's Clerks 3, so here we are.

There's also a lot of misreporting on this (he gets a lot of shiat 'round these parts, but he's right and a lot of this thread proves it: people jump to their own conclusions and assumptions and misquote or misrepresent what he says, then chastise him when they don't pan out), mostly from people focusing on one tweet instead of the string. He told the whole story on a Hollywood Babble-On episode a week or two back and it's a lot more complicated than, "Hey, we're making Clerks 3!" Give it a listen.
2012-12-31 04:20:10 PM
1 votes:

RevRaven: Also, as a random aside, I really Chasing Amy..but something never really sat well with me on that flick. The whole central conflict was "dude was bothered that his girlfriend used to be a whore". I've known plenty of whores and plenty of people (chicks and dudes) who've dated whores..and they all got over everything pretty quickly. I dunno, I know ya gotta have drama to have a story..it just seemed really forced and amazingly immature as a plot device.



I seem to remember him talking about it at one point saying that he used a semi-autobiographical point in his life as the basis of that conflict, and admitted to the fact that it was really immature of him at the time to have that conflict.

I get what your saying though, and I've also known people who dated whores (or former whores if you will) and couldn't get over it. So I think it goes both ways. Bottom line is it wasn't an unrealistic plotline... you know, other than a Lesbo switching teams just cause she hadn't found the right guy yet.
2012-12-31 03:17:10 PM
1 votes:
Best possible direction for Clerks 3 that would make boatloads of money but will never happen:

Clerks: The Animated Series: The Movie
2012-12-31 02:59:52 PM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: theurge14: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is unwatchable

THIS. I haven't watched anything he's done since that turd hit the theater. He should reimburse anyone who paid to see that thing.


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2012-12-31 02:04:32 PM
1 votes:

Disgruntled Goat: He also said "Red State" was his last movie.


No, he didn't. That phrase was never spoken by him in the history of ever.
2012-12-31 01:43:17 PM
1 votes:

theflatline: Clerks 2 and Strikes back were Smith,Affleck, etc versions of Cannonball Run 1,2.

Just some guys having a good time.

And you cannot beat female logic as exposed in Clerks. 37


Holy crap! A Kevin Smith reboot of Cannonball Run would be awesome!
2012-12-31 01:21:10 PM
1 votes:

realmolo: Smith's movies only seem good when you are 18-25. More than ANY other director, he knows how to hit that demographic.

The problem is, the day you turn 26, you can't watch his movies anymore.You've outgrown them.

I have a nostalgiac love for Kevin Smith movies. But whenever I happen to catch one on TV, I think 'Man, this is pretty juvenile and stupid and unfunny."

That said, the "Jay" and "Silent Bob" characters are pretty great inventions, and they're almost always funny.



I was in high school when Clerks and Mallrats came out, and I can still watch them from time to time.
I think by and large, Smith just doesn't care that much about movies any more. I read that on the Cop Out set, he pretty much just sat at the monitors getting stoned the entire time. Given how bad that movie turned out, I'm not surprised.

At this point, I think he just wants to make sure his kid has enough money for college and he has enough money to cover his weed and snacks bill.
2012-12-31 12:48:37 PM
1 votes:
Chasing Amy was a failed attempt at making a good "film" rather than a movie. It failed because it was so ham handed and silly, but also vulgar. The characters all come off as selfish, and don't really grow in logical ways.

It is pretty obvious that he just gave up after he fouled that one up so bad. Clerks showed potential, and Mallrats suffered because of bad casting choices, but it wasn't until Chasing Amy that he realized he would never be sucessful at making anything better than C grade schlock.

At least he realized his failings and has embraced his true calling.
2012-12-31 12:36:45 PM
1 votes:
Check this tubby biatch out.

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I don't know why but I always thought this was the greatest scene in a movie, ever. It was just so random and yet fit so perfect. That said, about half of KS's stuff is shiat and no I didn't like Clerks 2 so I probably won't be watching Clerks 3 to see the movie raped again.
2012-12-31 12:29:12 PM
1 votes:
Clerks was good and it still holds up although Dante is whiny and annoying. Everything else he's done is terrible.
2012-12-31 11:55:28 AM
1 votes:
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!

Christ, man!  Give it up!  You were the one ranting about how one a story had been told, it should be left alone!

Clerks book-ended itself just fine.  The story is over.  Dante and Randall bought the Quick Stop, Dante got the girl (and the babby), Randall gets to continue banging high school chicks, Jay and Bob own the wall they lean on, and yes, we assure you, he *is* supposed to be there today.  It's DONE.

Although, I guess now that everybody's middle-aged, they can do the whole "old responsible people coping with the next generation of slackers" reboot garbage.  The world doesn't need this.
2012-12-31 11:54:41 AM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: theurge14: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is unwatchable

THIS. I haven't watched anything he's done since that turd hit the theater. He should reimburse anyone who paid to see that thing.


"All you motherfarkers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fark your mothers while you watch and cry like little, whiny biatches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax farks who is makin' the movie... we're gonna make them eat our shiat, then shiat out our shiat, and then eat their shiat that's made up of our shiat that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you motherfarks are next. Love- Jay and Silent Bob"
2012-12-31 11:52:02 AM
1 votes:

Wadded Beef: I love his speaking engagements, though, as he's a terrific orator. Just hearing the story of his attempts to get Superman remade and the morons he dealt with is worth it alone.


Yeah, I like Kevin Smith the dude far more than I do his work. He seems like a pretty genuine, down to Earth, funny guy who tells a story really well. I think he's humble and hasn't let the manic fans who love him go to his head. I respect that, and I respect that he stays true to his roots and who he is. I love to listen to him in interviews.

I just don't care much for his work. His movies are fine, I suppose, once, but the only one that ever really struck me as "that was really good!" was Chasing Amy. Everything else -- and I've seen them all -- strikes me as, "Why do people think this is to brilliant and funny?"

To each his own, i suppose. I don't begrudge the guy. Hell, I'm glad he gets to do the kind of stuff he wants to do and make a living at it. We should all be so lucky.
2012-12-31 11:47:14 AM
1 votes:

Carth: What was the last good comedy Kevin Smith made? Dogma?


Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was a hell of a lot of fun, for a ridiculous movie. Jersey Girl was painful, and Clerks 2 seemed like it was written based on a checklist of references and callbacks he knew he had to make. Zack and Miri had its moments, but it just wasn't that interesting.
2012-12-31 11:44:45 AM
1 votes:
Comic Book Men is a great show.
2012-12-31 11:33:56 AM
1 votes:

theurge14: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is unwatchable


THIS. I haven't watched anything he's done since that turd hit the theater. He should reimburse anyone who paid to see that thing.
2012-12-31 11:31:39 AM
1 votes:
I've been a sometimes fan of Kevin Smith's stuff over the years, but never enough to be one of those View Askewniverse addicts. I liked Clerks for what it was back then, Mallrats was amusing, as was Dogma and Chasing Amy, but only once. And despite enjoying those movies I always got the feeling that I was always watching a well produced dorm-room home movie, basking in its own cleverness but seemingly disconnected from true maturity and wisdom. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is unwatchable, as is Zack and Miri Make a Porno and the several other submissions of Kevin Smith which well document his inability to grow the fark up. All I'm saying Kev is there's gotta be a reason you've spent the last decade or so being an ultra-defensive douche. Just ask Henry Rollins what that's like.
2012-12-31 11:18:49 AM
1 votes:
He also said "Red State" was his last movie.
 
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