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(Tech Crunch)   New survey finds that one in four Americans now owns a tablet. The other three are still trying to figure out how to get their VCR clock from flashing "12:00"   (techcrunch.com) divider line 162
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2012-12-31 11:12:10 AM  
People still own VCRs?
 
2012-12-31 11:20:28 AM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.
 
2012-12-31 11:21:59 AM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


Only Subby.
No, the other 3 don't really give a shiat about carrying another hunk of useless crap around that does what?
 
2012-12-31 11:44:18 AM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


Absolutely. Before Tivo that's what you used to record TV shows.
 
2012-12-31 11:53:09 AM  
My final VCR died earlier this year. I took my remaining boxes of VHS tapes to a Freecycle event and they disappeared within about twenty minutes.
 
Pud
2012-12-31 12:20:52 PM  
This has always stoped that flashing 12:00 for me.

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-31 01:52:05 PM  
I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.
 
2012-12-31 02:21:44 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


This.  Stuff I bought back in the day and still watch once in a while, but not often enough to upgrade.  Also, stuff I recorded.
 
2012-12-31 02:24:22 PM  
I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.
 
2012-12-31 02:24:50 PM  
Oh poor me. I don't own all the latest and greatest consumer products that some mega-corporation told me I "needed." Excuse me now while I die of shame.
 
2012-12-31 02:25:34 PM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


All my old hairy bush porn is on VHS not giving that up without a fight.
 
2012-12-31 02:27:43 PM  
I own a tablet. It is currently sitting with a completely discharged battery on the headboard, where it has been for weeks. Why?

* If I'm going to surf the web, my phone is always in my pocket and is "good enough".
* If I'm checking my email, my phone is always in my pocket and is "good enough".
* If I'm going to read a book, the last thing I want to do is stare at a bright screen; I use my Kindle with an e-ink display.
* If I'm going to do any "real work", I use my laptop which is only slightly heavier than my tablet but has a real keyboard and a higher resolution display.
* If I'm going to watch a movie, I watch it on my bigass TV.

In other words, I have yet to figure out what a tablet does for me. Watching a movie on a plane? I guess that's okay, but I can do that on my phone which I was going to take with me anyway so it's one fewer thing to carry through security. Play games? Phone has all the games I want....
 
2012-12-31 02:27:48 PM  
Subby may look like this.

www.brobible.com
 
2012-12-31 02:30:47 PM  

SuperT: I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.


^^^^^This^^^^^
 
2012-12-31 02:31:02 PM  

gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.


You do not have to worry. Gamers will always want desktops (as I do!)
The only thing that may happen is you'll have to build your own (which I did).

/sent from my Desktop.
 
2012-12-31 02:31:10 PM  

cryinoutloud: Oh poor me. I don't own all the latest and greatest consumer products that some mega-corporation told me I "needed." Excuse me now while I die of shame.


Right. I don't need all those nick knacks. I have a desktop. That's all I need. No pads, no cells.

The worst thing is people bringing me their stuff and asking me to jail break it so they can make it work more like a desktop. I know someone that has a hacked Xbox/Xbox360, Playstation3, Android Phone/Tablet, Nintendo DS(flashcart). All hacked to do the same things as each other.
 
2012-12-31 02:31:57 PM  

Keshire: The worst thing is people bringing me their stuff and asking me to jail break it so they can make it work more like a desktop. I know someone that has a hacked Xbox/Xbox360, Playstation3, Android Phone/Tablet, Nintendo DS(flashcart). All hacked to do the same things as each other.


"Can you jailbreak my item?"

"GET A FARKING DESKTOP"
 
2012-12-31 02:35:27 PM  

SuperT: I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.


A big phone that can't make phone calls!

THE FUTURE IS HERE!
 
2012-12-31 02:35:31 PM  

gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.


I worry that more and more companies are going to all-in-one desktops, which prevents customization and upgrading.
 
2012-12-31 02:42:13 PM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


I have one from the 80's out in my garage hooked up to a 13 inch TV that has knobs. My folks still have a 13 inch black and white TV from the 70's that lives in their motorhome.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:59 PM  

iaazathot: SuperT: I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.

^^^^^This^^^^^


I see the appeal for things like surfing in the bathroom or on the couch. Problem is, I can't type efficiently on those things unless you add a physical keyboard. Thus making it suspiciously like my actual laptop, only with no significant storage and far less overall power.

I'm not here to mock people who use tablets. I just personally don't see why I need to pay $500 to read the New York Times while I take a sh*t. I already have a smartphone for my lightweight, mobile data needs, and that actually fits in my pocket - so why else (except the aforementioned sh*tting convenience) do I need this?

Just sayin'.
 
2012-12-31 03:01:15 PM  

SuperT: I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.


blessthe40oz.com
 
2012-12-31 03:02:35 PM  
The other three use computing devices for stuff that requires keyboards, processing power, and unrestricted OSes, and are perfectly happy to leave the tablets to the lightweights.
 
2012-12-31 03:07:08 PM  

Lord Dimwit: In other words, I have yet to figure out what a tablet does for me. Watching a movie on a plane? I guess that's okay, but I can do that on my phone which I was going to take with me anyway so it's one fewer thing to carry through security. Play games? Phone has all the games I want....


For me, the killer app for my Kindle Fire HD is digital comics. Comixology is supported across all of the major tablet platforms, and they are always running $0.99 sales on good stuff. If you have an iPad with a Retina Display, the comics look gorgeous, too.

They are also nice for anyone who does a lot of traveling for work. You are going to have to bring your work laptop with you, so it's nice to have a small thin device (that doesn't have to be removed from your bag when going through security, BTW) where you can do all of your personal stuff without having to bring along another computer. For me, the Kindle Fire HD is especially good because Amazon is always running sales on their movie rentals, so it is a nice cheap way to get an inflight movie. You can also hook up an HDMI out cable to your hotel room TV and then use the Amazon video like Netflix if you have Prime. For me, it is a really flexible device to keep myself entertained when I am on the road, since it lets me do books, comics, magazines, videos, and games. Some of it I can do with my phone, but the larger screen is much better for videos and some print content.
 
2012-12-31 03:07:58 PM  

RedPhoenix122: I worry that more and more companies are going to all-in-one desktops, which prevents customization and upgrading.


Yeah, me too. All-in-ones are another tech trend I just don't comprehend. I mean, if it's designed to be stationary, what's the point in making it a eunuch? How about a laptop and an external 24-inch monitor? That way you can take the laptop with you if needed, even though it would be stationary most of the time. But you can at least take it to the couch when you're tired of sitting in that fart-haunted pit you call a computer desk chair. Hell, you even have two screens with that set-up (example, I keep my music player on the laptop screen and use the large one for working/masturbating). I don't get the logic behind the iMac, et al.

But again, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
 
2012-12-31 03:17:45 PM  
If I didnt get one of the firesale hp touchpads I probably wouldnt own a tablet. That said it replaced my broken laptop as my portable internet/netflix/other media device. I havent felt the need to replace the laptop since I got it.
 
2012-12-31 03:19:42 PM  

gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.


No doubt.

dchoos.org

/i'd like a big tablet for reading comics
 
2012-12-31 03:21:29 PM  
I do not own a tablet. I know several people who do, and from observing them I have figured out that it is a solution in search of a problem.

* If I'm going to surf the web, I don't want to use a phone, pad, or tablet with their little, bitty, teeny, tiny screens.
* If I'm checking my email... Actually, I do not check my email every five minutes. Three times a day is overkill. If you have to check email more than that, you're either important or you are insecure. There may be something needful in between those two, but I can't imagine what it might be.
* If I'm going to read a book, I buy, beg, or borrow a book.
* If I'm going to do any "real work," there is the desktop. It works much better and faster than a laptop and provides the visual space to accommodate two or three spreadsheets, three or four PDFs, four Word documents, a couple of email windows, and two or three web pages.
* If I'm going to watch a movie, I watch it on the TV. Y'know, it seems rather odd that film makers are going all out to fill the screen with detail yet the tablet and phone zealots want to watch those films on screens that are the size of the televisions that came out in the forties and fifties. (Yes, I am that old.) We've gone from a two inch screen, all the way around the block, back to a two inch screen, and the people without memory think we have somehow magically "progressed."

In other words, I have yet to figure out what a tablet does for me.

Actually, even the phone is far more than I really need. All I really need in a phone is the ability to call numbers, remember numbers, store numbers, keep a calendar, and have a GPS (maybe five times a year?). What all that other stuff is for I have no idea. Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention."

Beats the fark out of me why people want tablets.
 
2012-12-31 03:22:35 PM  
I still have a cell phone that's just a cell phone and all my TVs are CRTs. They work just fine. Why replace them?

/what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?
 
2012-12-31 03:23:34 PM  

dickfreckle: RedPhoenix122: I worry that more and more companies are going to all-in-one desktops, which prevents customization and upgrading.

Yeah, me too. All-in-ones are another tech trend I just don't comprehend. I mean, if it's designed to be stationary, what's the point in making it a eunuch? How about a laptop and an external 24-inch monitor? That way you can take the laptop with you if needed, even though it would be stationary most of the time. But you can at least take it to the couch when you're tired of sitting in that fart-haunted pit you call a computer desk chair. Hell, you even have two screens with that set-up (example, I keep my music player on the laptop screen and use the large one for working/masturbating). I don't get the logic behind the iMac, et al.

But again, that's just, like, my opinion, man.


Ok, you made me laugh.
 
2012-12-31 03:26:47 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: If I didnt get one of the firesale hp touchpads I probably wouldnt own a tablet. That said it replaced my broken laptop as my portable internet/netflix/other media device. I havent felt the need to replace the laptop since I got it.


That suggests that you have a desktop as your primary workhorse, though. That, or your needs are so small that a tablet fulfills them. Which is fine. A tablet is a great idea if you already have a desktop and just want something to play Angry Birds on while vegging on the sofa. But if the laptop is already your primary machine and you have a smartphone for looking up things when mobile, I just can't justify the expense. I mean, the laptop easily goes from the desk to the balcony, kitchen, whatever. And again, I can actually type quickly on it.
 
2012-12-31 03:26:58 PM  
Unlike subby, many of us non-baristas need actual computers to do real work.
 
2012-12-31 03:28:31 PM  
I have no use for a tablet when my phone does everything a tablet can.
 
2012-12-31 03:32:33 PM  

Surool: Unlike subby, many of us non-baristas need actual computers to do real work.


My real work involves an "actual" computer AND a stack of various Tablets and mobile devices. Turns out, shut up, huh?
 
2012-12-31 03:33:33 PM  

Diagonal: Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention."


Texts are for giving someone info without getting into a long drawn out conversation. If my wife wants to tell me to pick up some milk on the way home from work, she just sends me a text instead of having to call me just to tell me two words. Or if you're running a few minutes late, you can easily let someone know. It's basically perfect for short bits of information that you need to convey with an urgency that email just doesn't have.
 
2012-12-31 03:33:51 PM  
My tablet lives in my kitchen. It's primary job it to play music (via A2DP to my stereo), to look up recipes, check the weather, tell me when the bus is coming, and settle trivia arguments. It does these things very well and was relatively inexpensive.
 
2012-12-31 03:38:33 PM  

Keshire: cryinoutloud: Oh poor me. I don't own all the latest and greatest consumer products that some mega-corporation told me I "needed." Excuse me now while I die of shame.

Right. I don't need all those nick knacks. I have a desktop. That's all I need. No pads, no cells.

The worst thing is people bringing me their stuff and asking me to jail break it so they can make it work more like a desktop. I know someone that has a hacked Xbox/Xbox360, Playstation3, Android Phone/Tablet, Nintendo DS(flashcart). All hacked to do the same things as each other.


That's about the way I see things. I have a cell phone because I'm on after hours call for work, and it does come in handy if I'm out in the middle of buttfark nowhere and my car breaks down or some such, but I rarely use my phone for anything but that.

I want to game, work or whatever? That's what the desktop is for.
Email can almost always wait until I'm home or somewhere where I can check it.
If I want to watch a movie, or show I do that on my TV or computer.
If I want to read a book, I read a book.

I get how they can be handy and all, but it really doesn't fit in with my lifestyle.
 
2012-12-31 03:43:37 PM  
Is Jay Leno submitting headlines now?
 
2012-12-31 03:53:10 PM  
Pfff tablets.... I don't even own a digital computer because real work is done on a slide rule.
 
2012-12-31 03:55:07 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Diagonal: Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention."

Texts are for giving someone info without getting into a long drawn out conversation. If my wife wants to tell me to pick up some milk on the way home from work, she just sends me a text instead of having to call me just to tell me two words. Or if you're running a few minutes late, you can easily let someone know. It's basically perfect for short bits of information that you need to convey with an urgency that email just doesn't have.


To continue this threadjack, I agree with you. Especially the wife/GF part. If all you need is milk on my way home, a tet is great. When speaking, the politeness in most of us feels it should be an actual conversation. Screw that. We'll talk when I get home.

Also, once my mom figured out how to text, it was a godsend. She sent only the pertinent information, mostly putting to an end all the conversations when she asked if I was wearing clean underwear. If it wasn't your mom, wife, or significant other, we've all known that person who calls to ask a simple question and it turns into a 10 minute ordeal.
 
2012-12-31 03:55:38 PM  
The biggest revelation about the rise of tablets/smartphones is that at least half of the people who used to
buy computers never generated any useful content with them.

/Has an iPod Touch and a laptop, so I don't need a tablet.
 
2012-12-31 03:58:02 PM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


Absolutely.  I frequently find people selling movies that are only available on old VHS tapes.  My latest acquisition:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-31 04:00:47 PM  
 
2012-12-31 04:02:30 PM  

Crunch61: /what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


CSB: I tried hard about a year ago and I couldn't even give mine away when I called and emailed around. It still had a great picture and was full HD (but component input not HDMI). Trash pickup wouldn't take it, no electronics anymore. City recycling drop-off wouldn't take it either, had to call a private recycler to pick up. Free service but had to wait 2 weeks.
 
2012-12-31 04:03:44 PM  
Hey everybody give subby a break, it was nice of him to take time out of fellating Steve Jobs's corpse to write this.
 
2012-12-31 04:03:48 PM  
I own a pretty good compromise: the Galaxy Note I. Works almost as good as an SIII but has a huge screen second only to the Note II, whose screen is .2" bigger. The Note also has a stylus, which while stupid sometimes, makes it pretty darn easy to swype quickly.
 
2012-12-31 04:05:49 PM  

dickfreckle: we've all known that person who calls to ask a simple question and it turns into a 10 minute ordeal.


I love my wife and all, but damn... can.  she.  talk.   and talk.  and talk.

Its all good when we're hanging out, but thank god for texting when it comes to "pick up milk on the way home"
 
2012-12-31 04:08:26 PM  
"The other three are still trying to figure out how to get their VCR clock from flashing "12:00""

You mean there is a way to stop the VCR clock from flashing "12:00"? WOW!
 
2012-12-31 04:09:24 PM  

downstairs: I love my wife and all, but damn... can. she. talk. and talk. and talk.


Just shove something in her mouth so she can't talk.  That's what i do.
 
2012-12-31 04:12:28 PM  
I have a mini android tablet. Also known as a smartphone
 
2012-12-31 04:13:54 PM  
When they combine an e-Reader with a 500GB external Hard Drive so I can have my entire RPG library on it, then I will buy one.
 
2012-12-31 04:14:51 PM  
I fail to see the point in a tablet.

They are for casual use only, and everything they can offer that way is already covered by my smartphone. Quick surfing on the go, smartphone. Typing up a paper or doing real work, desktop.

I simply have no need for a bigger, clumsier version of tech I already have, or a smaller, weaker version of tech I already have.
 
2012-12-31 04:14:55 PM  

dickfreckle: Igor Jakovsky: If I didnt get one of the firesale hp touchpads I probably wouldnt own a tablet. That said it replaced my broken laptop as my portable internet/netflix/other media device. I havent felt the need to replace the laptop since I got it.

That suggests that you have a desktop as your primary workhorse, though. That, or your needs are so small that a tablet fulfills them. Which is fine. A tablet is a great idea if you already have a desktop and just want something to play Angry Birds on while vegging on the sofa. But if the laptop is already your primary machine and you have a smartphone for looking up things when mobile, I just can't justify the expense. I mean, the laptop easily goes from the desk to the balcony, kitchen, whatever. And again, I can actually type quickly on it.


That is correct. Actually I have 2 desktops. As I said the tablet replaced the laptop as a portable media center. playing movies, music and internet is really all i want it to do.
 
2012-12-31 04:18:05 PM  

Phaeon: I own a pretty good compromise: the Galaxy Note I. Works almost as good as an SIII but has a huge screen second only to the Note II, whose screen is .2" bigger. The Note also has a stylus, which while stupid sometimes, makes it pretty darn easy to swype quickly.


I've got one too. I use it to RDP into work when needed so the screen size is super useful. Portable yet easy to see stuff. And drawing and writing on it is a bonus

Lord Dimwit: In other words, I have yet to figure out what a tablet does for me.


The only thing I can think would justify me owning a tablet is watching tv shows on the toilet or on a plane. Everyone I've asked who owns one either says they haven't had much use for it or say they use it "in case my [TV|computer|cellphone|camera|etc] breaks"
 
2012-12-31 04:27:05 PM  
I've got a Lenovo thinkpad, and I use it for school. I bought this tablet in particular because it comes with a stylus and the My Notes Mobile app, so I can write all my notes for college in one giant repository. Since most of my textbooks are also available as rentals through Amazon, I can use the Kindle app to read all my books for class on the tablet, thereby greatly reducing the load I'd have to lug around campus all day. Plus, when I have an hour between classes I can watch something on Netflix.

I also work as a T.A., so I can answer student questions while in class/in-between class very quickly in relative privacy since no one else can see my screen. I can access our schools' blackboard program, which allows me to reset quizzes and tests much more quickly than if I had to wait until I was at home.

I've also got a SketchBook Mobile app that is pretty powerful, so I can also do creative stuff on my tablet when I have the time.

I could do all this with a laptop too, but the tablet is much lighter and convenient. Plus, as I mentioned above it affords a larger degree of privacy in public settings than a laptop.
 
2012-12-31 04:29:39 PM  

Crunch61: I still have a cell phone that's just a cell phone and all my TVs are CRTs. They work just fine. Why replace them?

/what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


A nice open area, 2 pounds of tannerite and a high velocity rifle. That is what you do with a 150 pound CRT when it finally breaks down.
 
2012-12-31 04:30:04 PM  

Imperious Rex!: I've got a Lenovo thinkpad, and I use it for school. I bought this tablet in particular because it comes with a stylus and the My Notes Mobile app, so I can write all my notes for college in one giant repository. Since most of my textbooks are also available as rentals through Amazon, I can use the Kindle app to read all my books for class on the tablet, thereby greatly reducing the load I'd have to lug around campus all day. Plus, when I have an hour between classes I can watch something on Netflix.

I also work as a T.A., so I can answer student questions while in class/in-between class very quickly in relative privacy since no one else can see my screen. I can access our schools' blackboard program, which allows me to reset quizzes and tests much more quickly than if I had to wait until I was at home.

I've also got a SketchBook Mobile app that is pretty powerful, so I can also do creative stuff on my tablet when I have the time.

I could do all this with a laptop too, but the tablet is much lighter and convenient. Plus, as I mentioned above it affords a larger degree of privacy in public settings than a laptop.


Congratulations. You are the first person I have ever heard that can actually explain how they use their tablet for something constructive.

/Seriously
 
2012-12-31 04:32:41 PM  
Got my 9" EeePc 900ha netbook for $250 bucks back in 08. Runs everything I want, and has never failed me not even once. I travel all over the world with it, and take it along when camping. Don't bother babying it since if someday it fails, it won't be a great financial lost. Yet so far so good. Great investment. A tablet would have been a whole other story.
 
2012-12-31 04:40:41 PM  
Sony did right with their tablets, which I have one. They figured that most people use their tablets in front of the TV, so they put an IR transmitter into it and included a learning universal remote app.

It's been pretty damn useful.
 
2012-12-31 04:48:39 PM  

Joe Peanut: Got my 9" EeePc 900ha netbook for $250 bucks back in 08. Runs everything I want, and has never failed me not even once. I travel all over the world with it, and take it along when camping. Don't bother babying it since if someday it fails, it won't be a great financial lost. Yet so far so good. Great investment. A tablet would have been a whole other story.


How's the battery life? For my travel needs, my tablet has been great. But it's less than a year old, and I expect the battery life to be a problem before the device actually fails. Apple seals their devices, so dead battery = dead iPad.
 
2012-12-31 05:14:46 PM  
No TV in the bedroom, so I use the Kindle Fire for watching movies or Tv series. Occasionally check email and/or this wacky site Link just before going to sleep. I like it, but I could live w/o it.
 
2012-12-31 05:17:30 PM  

Rockstone: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

You do not have to worry. Gamers will always want desktops (as I do!)
The only thing that may happen is you'll have to build your own (which I did).

/sent from my Desktop.


Gamers... right. Because most gamers don't play on consoles right?

The desktop PC demographic will basically be programmers and computer nerds. (Not quite the same groups.) Hell, laptops these days can even play most games...

My fear is that parts will get much more expensive as demand for PC hardware goes way down and companies stop manufacturing...
 
2012-12-31 05:20:59 PM  
I'm still using stone tablets, subby.
 
2012-12-31 05:21:31 PM  
www.midniteticket.com
These guys can fix that VCR problem...

/obscure?
 
2012-12-31 05:29:36 PM  

ongbok: Imperious Rex!: I've got a Lenovo thinkpad, and I use it for school. I bought this tablet in particular because it comes with a stylus and the My Notes Mobile app, so I can write all my notes for college in one giant repository. Since most of my textbooks are also available as rentals through Amazon, I can use the Kindle app to read all my books for class on the tablet, thereby greatly reducing the load I'd have to lug around campus all day. Plus, when I have an hour between classes I can watch something on Netflix.

I also work as a T.A., so I can answer student questions while in class/in-between class very quickly in relative privacy since no one else can see my screen. I can access our schools' blackboard program, which allows me to reset quizzes and tests much more quickly than if I had to wait until I was at home.

I've also got a SketchBook Mobile app that is pretty powerful, so I can also do creative stuff on my tablet when I have the time.

I could do all this with a laptop too, but the tablet is much lighter and convenient. Plus, as I mentioned above it affords a larger degree of privacy in public settings than a laptop.

Congratulations. You are the first person I have ever heard that can actually explain how they use their tablet for something constructive.

/Seriously


So you've never talked to anyone who writes software for tablets? :P
 
2012-12-31 05:30:15 PM  
I use my tablet to grade papers; I need to scribble all over the document, so grading on the computer doesn't work. It has absolutely revolutionized the way I do my work. I couldn't go back to paper essays now.

But I can see how tablets would be useless for many people. Meh.
 
2012-12-31 05:30:17 PM  
Next gen ftw.

farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-31 05:39:25 PM  
I have tablets mounted into every room in my house. The sit flush in the wall until I need them, then it's easy to pull out. Music / internet when in the bathroom when getting ready or perched upon the throne, recipes in the kitchen, web surfing in the living room, alarm clock / weather / notes for the day in the bedroom when I wake up. Plus I can leave messages for the GF, send myself grocery lists, have a camera always near by for what ever comes up and then some. And a relatively inexpensive set-up.
 
2012-12-31 05:40:18 PM  
Really needs age included..

As a single male in his 20s I think my group of friends might be different than most..I have two tabs and they are great!!

Most people just make assumptions...get a tab and use it for a week..if you don't love it take it back
 
2012-12-31 05:49:54 PM  
I have one of the 8.9" HD Kindles, and I use it for exactly two things: Watching Movies/TV and reading books. And I farking love it. It's basically a mobile HD TV for a few hundred bucks and since I'm a complete whore to Amazon it gets a shiat ton of use.

That said, there's no farking way I'd ever see myself using a tablet for productivity. I don't even like to send email from it.
 
2012-12-31 05:52:23 PM  

RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?


I guess so. It looks like they're still making "can't make the clock stop flashing 12:00" jokes.
 
2012-12-31 05:53:46 PM  
The guy at the brewery who's job it is to co-ordinate shipping and receiving with the distribution companies and such has a custom app for inventory, tracking and management on his tablet and con communicate with the file servers anywhere in the complex with it built in bar code scanner so as to bring up the appropriate SKU, send off E-mails to the appropriate people as he see's fit, and look at porn.
 
2012-12-31 05:58:55 PM  
I use my tablet quite a bit. I donate plasma twice a week and i take it with me so I have something to watch. Anime for the most part does not need to be in HD and looks no better on the 50 inch I have at home vs. my Nexus 7's 7 inch screen. It also doubles as my car's MP3 player and GPS.

I could use a smartphone for the same things, sure, but there's not much reason. My normal cell phone that only makes calls still works and I loathe phone contracts. Which tends to be the main issue I noticed in this thread: Most people who do not like tablets or otherwise see them as worthless tend to have smartphones.
 
2012-12-31 06:05:47 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


There are definitely corny niche films that I get a kick out of, but will never be released on DVD, Like 'Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park'(Having trouble finding that one, think the wife tossed it, even though I told her to throw away the car before that), and Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band.
 
2012-12-31 06:07:08 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


Here's like ten or fifteen solutions to your problem:

http://vhs-to-dvd-converters-review.toptenreviews.com/

you're welcome, I guess.
 
2012-12-31 06:09:17 PM  

SuperT: I don't need a 200$ big phone. It just doesn't fill a need for me.


It definitely has a huge business potential, not to replace her desktop, but for out in the field, or when down on the factory floor, tracking a job. Otherwise, they're nice for games, as e-readers, and for basic Internet.
 
2012-12-31 06:09:31 PM  
Me: An iPad is not a suitable substitute for a laptop.
Fanbois: ITZ NOT SUB-POST TO BE A LAPTOP SUBSTITUTE YOU UN-UNIQUE CONFORMIST.
Me: Ok then what is it.
Fanbois: OMFG WTF BBQ IS WRONG WITH YOUR UN-AWESOME BRAIN. YOU CAN ANSWER iEMAIL AND DO iCLOUD STUFF WITH IT ***WHILE*** YOU HOLD A CAN OF PABST
Me: You mean like everything I can do on my droid except make discreet phone calls.
Fanbois: HERE DRINK SOME OF THIS iKOOLAID.
Me: No thanks.
 
2012-12-31 06:10:30 PM  

Mikey1969: Like 'Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park'


Kissology, Vol. 2 I believe.
 
2012-12-31 06:12:02 PM  

Jim_Callahan: you're welcome, I guess.


Thanks, but it's simpler and cheaper to just hang onto my VCR, and tapes.
 
2012-12-31 06:13:49 PM  
Ooo, a late contender for "dumbest green-lit headline" for the year. Kudos, subby!
 
2012-12-31 06:16:38 PM  
I have a desktop, tablet and laptop. Desktop isn't hooked up anymore and I have an ad for it to sell on craigslist. Christmas was less than a week ago, not surprised it's not selling.

The tablet is great for setting in bed and checking email and surfing the internet or checking facebook. For everything else, I use the laptop. The coolest thing I've seen someone do with a tablet. They are a car salesman. They loaded their iPad with stuff about every model on the lot. They talk to a customer, customer asked a question, he turns on his iPad and shows them the information they asked for.
 
2012-12-31 06:17:01 PM  
They wrote on tablets 6000 years ago... so... we've come full circle?
 
2012-12-31 06:19:24 PM  

Mikey1969: Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park


Someone has one for sale at amazon for $35:

http://www.amazon.com/Kiss-Meets-The-Phantom-Park/dp/B000FSF30O
 
2012-12-31 06:24:07 PM  
I've got a tablet and absolutely love it. I'm a 34 year old guy who is going back to school full time. I don't have a smart phone either. For a fe hundred dollars I got something I can connect to the Internet with just about where that has wifi. With that I can email, play on the Internet, make phonecalls for free with Talkatone and Google voice, and watch Netflix. Not only that but the majority of people in my classes will print out all the PowerPoint presentations the teachers put online, take notes on them, and then file them in giant binders hat they use to study from. When it comes time for study groups, they haul the big binders and text books with them. I probably could run do most of that stuff with a laptop instead but I like having something smaller and lighter. Not only that but classes often go from 8:30-2:30 and then I'll study after classes get out for a while as well and most laptop batteries won't go that long. Instead of having the big binders that everyone else has or worrying about if my laptop battery will lot long enough I just use my iPad and I'm good to go for the day. I'm perfectly fine with the onscreen keyboard as well.

I do still have a laptop but I generally only use it to stream downloaded shows and music to my Xbox, every once in a while print stuff, write longer papers, or use it to control my guitar equipment when I'm playing music. Other than that I've barely touched the thing since I got my iPad. This isn't to say I have to have an iPad over any per tablet though. I just wanted one with a decent sized screen and the iPad had the most apps on it so I went with it.

On top of it all though, I also just typed all this up on my iPad as well.
 
2012-12-31 06:28:21 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: Mikey1969: Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park

Someone has one for sale at amazon for $35:

http://www.amazon.com/Kiss-Meets-The-Phantom-Park/dp/B000FSF30O


That thing is so amazingly corny. Produced by Hannah Farking Barberra, if you can believe that. The funniest part is them lounging around the pool in the middle of the day, wearing full costumes and makeup. Must have been 150 under all that leather.
 
2012-12-31 06:29:55 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.

This.  Stuff I bought back in the day and still watch once in a while, but not often enough to upgrade.  Also, stuff I recorded.


I still own one and my daughter has one. It was great when the kids were smaller because VHS tapes are super cheap used and harder for kids to mess up with messy hands or leaving them on the floor. I still watch tapes occasionally when Netflix doesn't have it or a tape I have of my friend's freshman roommate going on a drunken rampage tearing apart the kitchen of his college party house.
 
2012-12-31 06:31:50 PM  

Mikey1969: That thing is so amazingly corny.


I remember it when it first aired on tv.  Ridiculous!  Not really a KISS fan though.

I see there's one on eBay for $20.
 
2012-12-31 06:32:01 PM  
Don't own a tablet. Don't own a smartphone, either. Don't need them. Given how I've seen them used, I'm still not sold.

Lightweight laptop handles my mobility issues, and allows me to work remotely without difficulty. My gaming rig handles my heavy lifting. Tablet isn't yet powerful enough to handle what my laptop handles, and both my laptop & my desktop take the same operating system & software.

I don't buy e-books - especially as "buy" is a loose term when it comes to e-books. I like to own books, and I collect books. I don't play Angry Birds, I'm not on Facebook, and I have Twitter, Google+, Bing, and various other accounts solely for development purposes - I don't broadcast my life. I don't need to take pictures of everything I do, nor do I record my actions so frequently that I must carry a tablet & blog my meals, bowel movements, passing thoughts, etc. I have a working forebrain, so I don't need a recorder, and I've found that a (paper-based) notebook fits my needs without batteries, fragility, or possibility of theft. (I write in Gregg, a leftover of my years in admin, to ensure some slight security - even the idea of stealing my notebook is somewhat amusing.)

About the only place I'd consider a tablet is in my workshop, for the convenience and so I don't have to grab my laptop to refer to design sketches, prints, and so on. Other than that, though, I just don't see the need. It's a nice thing, mind you - I'm not against them. I'm just not that important, and I don't need to be amused every second of every day.
 
2012-12-31 06:36:05 PM  

Edymnion: I fail to see the point in a tablet.

They are for casual use only, and everything they can offer that way is already covered by my smartphone. Quick surfing on the go, smartphone. Typing up a paper or doing real work, desktop.

I simply have no need for a bigger, clumsier version of tech I already have, or a smaller, weaker version of tech I already have.


Nope, they have real potential in a business environment. At my previous job, our sales reps could that those on job sites and when meeting clients. Also, our project managers could walk the entire production zone, from Art prep to color tests, to printing, frame design, and final assembly, marking a job off at each step.

It will also work well if my wife gets serious about the event planning business she's been thinking about starting.

Portability is key, and if you have one with a keyboard dock, it's even better. Then you come back to the desktop and do your serious work.
 
2012-12-31 06:43:02 PM  
New survey finds that one in four Americans now owns a tablet. The other three are still trying to figure out how to get stop their VCR clock from flashing "12:00"

and subby is still trying to figure out the english language. people are different, with different standards. IM SHOCKED, I tells ya.
 
2012-12-31 06:43:14 PM  

Crunch61: I still have a cell phone that's just a cell phone and all my TVs are CRTs. They work just fine. Why replace them?

/what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


Make it into a fish tank; then put it next to your new TV that dosent suck?

I am still guilty of having a CRT around for duck hunt though. The old nintendo light gun dosent work right without a real scan line.
 
2012-12-31 06:52:54 PM  

Crunch61: /what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


We have an electronics recycling depot here.  You have to get it there yourself, but it doesn't cost anything to drop it off.  They charge a recycling fee on all new electronics sold here to cover the expense.

My tv is a 36" Toshiba, that weighs around 175 lbs.

Woe be to those who own one of those 40" Sony CRTs that weigh 300+ lbs. though.
 
2012-12-31 06:55:04 PM  
I have a tablet, a smartphone, and a desktop. I have the tablet because I wanted something more mobile than a laptop, and the smartphone is for work/general use. While the desktop is what I do most of my computing on. Yes I can do most of what I do on the tablet on the smartphone but its more of a pain and runs down the battery. Tablet is a nice go-between the desktop and smartphone.
 
2012-12-31 07:01:35 PM  
Samsung smart phone $80 Does everything.
Ipad $600 Does everything except make phone calls.


Yep tough choice
 
2012-12-31 07:11:29 PM  
or are broke. I am a computer tech and don't have one because my company doesn't provide them and I'm waiting to get a nicer one with real function, not one of the cheap crappy ones.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:06 PM  
^^ ipads make phone calls.

Anyways.. yea silly headline. I have lots of computer in my house.. a tablet isn't one of them. I have no need for it. I have a big gaming desktop, a 15" laptop with a gorgiouse 1080p screen for watching movies on in other rooms or on the go, and my phone which is a year old high end phone so it can do pretty much everything too while fitting in my pocket. A tablet would neither be as good as my phone in fitting in my pocket nore would it be as good as playing movies as my laptop.

Tablets seem like the perfect unit to integrate into other hardware for control and display purposes, but too underpowered for their own good.
 
2012-12-31 07:19:26 PM  
How can anyone show up at Starbucks without a tablet? Lap tops are so yesterday.
 
2012-12-31 07:22:01 PM  
www.demotivation.us

I build expensive desktops and use the cheapest flip phone Straightalk has. I have ZERO need of a tablet.
 
2012-12-31 07:31:21 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Me: An iPad is not a suitable substitute for a laptop.
Fanbois: ITZ NOT SUB-POST TO BE A LAPTOP SUBSTITUTE YOU UN-UNIQUE CONFORMIST.
Me: Ok then what is it.
Fanbois: OMFG WTF BBQ IS WRONG WITH YOUR UN-AWESOME BRAIN. YOU CAN ANSWER iEMAIL AND DO iCLOUD STUFF WITH IT ***WHILE*** YOU HOLD A CAN OF PABST
Me: You mean like everything I can do on my droid except make discreet phone calls.
Fanbois: HERE DRINK SOME OF THIS iKOOLAID.
Me: No thanks.


This. Tablets can be good for a few things, but nothing life altering.

Camera (big whoop)
Read e-books while lying in bed. (also big whoop)

Anything else I can do on my PC or Laptop(plus things that tablets will never do well), even read books on the laptop, though you can't roll over and change to many positions.

It's a status thing, supported by novel hobbies for people without the mental capacity to have real hobbies.

The only real positive is that it's a good mobile device if you need that for specific work but don't need a full keyboard/mouse.
 
2012-12-31 07:37:40 PM  
I find that most of the people talking smack about tablets have never lived with one. Just my own dozen anecdotes or so. And I've yet to meet someone with a tablet who doesn't generally love it.

On mine, I read books and have magazine subscriptions, I game, surf Fark on the couch, play chess, Skype. And it's sometimes handy for movies, too.

Phone is a Nexus 4, everything is just much better and easier on the 7 (especially games).
 
2012-12-31 07:38:49 PM  
Why does that flashing number matter? I don't need a working clock to know I bested my fastest speed.

/actually I do, only able to shave off seconds at a time these days
//must be old age creeping up on me
 
2012-12-31 07:39:11 PM  

Homr: I have tablets mounted into every room in my house. The sit flush in the wall until I need them, then it's easy to pull out. Music / internet when in the bathroom when getting ready or perched upon the throne, recipes in the kitchen, web surfing in the living room, alarm clock / weather / notes for the day in the bedroom when I wake up. Plus I can leave messages for the GF, send myself grocery lists, have a camera always near by for what ever comes up and then some. And a relatively inexpensive set-up.


Nifty
 
2012-12-31 07:49:34 PM  

Kaiser Blade: I game


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-31 07:51:50 PM  

ongbok: Subby may look like this.

[www.brobible.com image 640x791]


If subby is going to crossdress then subby should make the god damn effort to shave their legs and beard off.
 
2012-12-31 07:51:53 PM  

Edymnion: I fail to see the point in a tablet.

They are for casual use only, and everything they can offer that way is already covered by my smartphone. Quick surfing on the go, smartphone. Typing up a paper or doing real work, desktop.


- watching Netflix while on the stepper or cross-trainer at the gym.

- reading journal articles in PDF.

- following a recipe while cooking.
 
2012-12-31 08:34:35 PM  
I really dont know what id do with a tablet. More comfortable web browsing on the couch, which would be nice, and comic books on the bus i guess, so if i ever had a few hundred extra dollars laying around and didnt need a new smartphone or desktop i guess, maybe, but my smartphone is good enough for reading fark when im not at my desk, which is probably 90% of what i do with it.
 
2012-12-31 08:41:27 PM  
Before I bought this tablet, I figured my cell phone was good enough for mobile browsing. And it was, of course. Then the phone died and I realized I don't talk on cell phones much anymore. And this nexus 7 was as expensive as the low end nexus 4. Basically I traded a really nice camera on the 4 for a big ass screen on the 7. Works for me.

/CSB
 
2012-12-31 08:54:32 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

No doubt.

[dchoos.org image 850x565]

/i'd like a big tablet for reading comics


Did you unplug that from the wall yourself? Ma Bell will punish you for your temerity.
 
2012-12-31 08:58:19 PM  

ongbok: Congratulations. You are the first person I have ever heard that can actually explain how they use their tablet for something constructive.

/Seriously


I do e-mail, submit manuscripts, edit said documents and do some video editing work (nothing fancy obviously). I freely admit the bulk of editing is done on a desktop but the slate is good enough for simple stuff.

Ohh and a huge stack of books shoved in to the Kindle app as well for entertainment and a remote control for XBMC.

If you include Ghastly using his for drawing you now know three.
 
2012-12-31 09:06:37 PM  
Tablets are replacing the kitchen tv. Lots of people have had a use for 13in TVs and such over the years... in the kitchen while you good, out in the garage while you're working on something, stuff like that. Not *everyone* has small supplementary TVs scattered about, but some do, and tablets easily fill that void. Plus, you don't have to have one in each room... you can pick it up and carry it anywhere, including the bathroom. When I cut the cord, the first thing I did with the extra money was get a tablet.
 
2012-12-31 09:07:35 PM  

cretinbob: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Only Subby.
No, the other 3 don't really give a shiat about carrying another hunk of useless crap around that does what?


I don't usually allow others to speak for me but in this case, I don't think there's anything I would change.
 
2012-12-31 09:07:46 PM  
I like our TF700.  Great for flights.  Wife and I trade between the tablet and 3DS.

Tablet is far superior than phone for everything non-phone related.
 
2012-12-31 09:15:22 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Kaiser Blade: I game


FF3, chess, and Osmos are about as far as it goes... but hey, they're still games. I still remember when I was hardcore enough to be condescending about it.
 
2012-12-31 09:29:47 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


I read that as "porn".
 
2012-12-31 09:33:40 PM  
One tablet? Hah! I've got bottles of them. What's this VCR you kids are talking about? What is that, some sort of electrical-powered phonographs?
 
2012-12-31 09:50:56 PM  
I have several tablets.

/ I also have some pills and a wide variety of suppositories.
 
2012-12-31 10:02:36 PM  
Meh my netbook is running fine. When it dies, maybe a tablet.
I still have my IBM thinkpad 770x. The kids play doom on it
 
2012-12-31 10:13:46 PM  

Surool: Unlike subby, many of us non-baristas need actual computers to do real work.

 
2012-12-31 10:27:47 PM  
HP Touchpad 32 gig, running Jelly Bean.  When I at home I use it for reading in bed, on the shiatter, and recipes while cooking.

On the road I use it to make skype calls, watch movies, compose emails, and watch movies.  And I get about six hours battery life browsking and watching videos continuously.

It is coupled with a logitech bluetooth keyboard and that all fit into a tiny bag.  Much easier for me to travel internationally with and it means I can leave my laptop and its backpack at home.
 
2012-12-31 10:33:33 PM  

theflatline: HP Touchpad 32 gig, running Jelly Bean.  When I at home I use it for reading in bed, on the shiatter, and recipes while cooking.

On the road I use it to make skype calls, watch movies, compose emails, and watch movies.  And I get about six hours battery life browsking and watching videos continuously.

It is coupled with a logitech bluetooth keyboard and that all fit into a tiny bag.  Much easier for me to travel internationally with and it means I can leave my laptop and its backpack at home.


Thanks for the tip... my mom has a touchpad and i need to start looking into a new OS to load on that baby sooner or later
 
2012-12-31 10:36:41 PM  

Telos: Gamers... right. Because most gamers don't play on consoles right?


Actually, no, most gamers don't.
The times are changing, the tides are shifting.


Telos: The desktop PC demographic will basically be programmers and computer nerds. (Not quite the same groups.) Hell, laptops these days can even play most games...

My fear is that parts will get much more expensive as demand for PC hardware goes way down and companies stop manufacturing...


Most of the hardcore PC games have a primary gaming desktop. Laptops can play most games alright, but not at the same fidelity of a Desktop. Hell, I even was playing minecraft the other night, and everyone other than one person was on a Desktop, and that one person was about to build his desktop.

I don't think parts will get more expensive.
 
2012-12-31 10:39:57 PM  

cryinoutloud: Oh poor me. I don't own all the latest and greatest consumer products that some mega-corporation told me I "needed." Excuse me now while I die of shame.


seriously. either some a-wipe is crying about how we're a capitalistic pig consumer society polluting the earth for the sake of useless unnecessary goods or anyone that doesn't have what Kid Dooshbag owns doesn't qualify as human. everybody can go fark themselves. i like my 16MM silent movie reels and the rotary wall phone still works just fine, dagnabit.
 
2012-12-31 10:41:48 PM  

gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.


as long as people need PC's for ya know... actual work and not dicking around on the internet, there will be desktops

/has an ipad for dicking around on the internet
//has a custom desktop that pays for junk like the ipad
 
2012-12-31 10:46:07 PM  
Tablet practically lives in the kitchen for recipes, when the weather changes I imagine it will live in the garden. It also is a remote control for my television/blu ray, and lets me have fark open when my laptop is running other crap that's all fullscreen. I've had it now for a fricking week and I keep finding other stuff to do with it. Use it to access my tunes and films on the NAS, run splashtop to keep an eye on crap on the laptop when I've got to do stuff elsewhere. If I want to watch a movie I put it on the big screen with the surround sound, by flicking the movie towards it.
Also will probably use it WITH the laptop when DMing next week. Moar screens, plz.

Have a doctor's appointment in a couple weeks, my records are on the damn thing (scancam), plus the readings for the stupid monitor that's keeping me alive between appointments. In about 20 hours, it will remind me to take the once a week pills, and remind me not to forget to eat because the pills make me do that.

...oh, and I don't use a cell phone, nor use the tablet for telephony. If I have to go somewhere without wifi, you can leave a goddamned message.
 
2012-12-31 10:48:07 PM  

Rockstone: I don't think parts will get more expensive.


Rumour mill suggests Intel's next generation CPU will not be socket-able. It'll be soldered on to the board and not user replaceable.

I can see that putting the price of a system up as you'll have to do some serious digging to find the board with all the features you want carrying the CPU you've selected.

Assuming the rumour mill and Intel's OEM briefing are correct of course.
 
2012-12-31 11:00:00 PM  

Vaneshi: Rockstone: I don't think parts will get more expensive.

Rumour mill suggests Intel's next generation CPU will not be socket-able. It'll be soldered on to the board and not user replaceable.

I can see that putting the price of a system up as you'll have to do some serious digging to find the board with all the features you want carrying the CPU you've selected.

Assuming the rumour mill and Intel's OEM briefing are correct of course.


I predict a huge backlash against Intel if that happens. I don't care if I loose out on some performance, I'll go AMD for my next update.
Besides, it's not happening:


http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_says_company_committed_so c kets2012
 
2012-12-31 11:26:57 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

No doubt.

[dchoos.org image 850x565]

/i'd like a big tablet for reading comics


Take a look at the Nexus 10. It's as good as digital comicing will get for a while. With 2560x1600 pixels at 300dpi, you can view the full pages as intended by the artists. Text and graphics are razor sharp. No need for the Guided View that zooms in on small sections of the page to read the text. Samsung was going to put out a 12.something inch tablet of the same resolution but I think it got bumped for the Nexus 10. That would be the perfect size with the screen being the size of a comic page. I'm a bit disappointed that it's not an OLED display, tho. I'm spoiled by the one on my phone.
 
2012-12-31 11:29:31 PM  

Kaiser Blade: omeganuepsilon: Kaiser Blade: I game

FF3, chess, and Osmos are about as far as it goes... but hey, they're still games. I still remember when I was hardcore enough to be condescending about it.


I play games =/= I game
Games =/= gamer

It's not about my condescension, as it is about your projection.

I'm merely talking about accurate classification.

My 72 year old mother plays hearts, maybe solitaire on the pc. She is not a gamer.

My 75 year old father plays multiple modern RPG's , he is a gamer.

While there is no real dictionary definition, calling you a gamer(based on phone/tablet usage), would be intellectually dishonest.

Back to your projecting. You may not have an iProduct, but it's still obviously a status symbol. You're like the office jock that plays WoW for the geek chic self image. I can smell your desperation to belong from here.

Sure, everyone has that need to belong, but the way it manifests has a lot to do with your personality, it says a lot about you.
 
2012-12-31 11:46:22 PM  

Crunch61: I still have a cell phone that's just a cell phone and all my TVs are CRTs. They work just fine. Why replace them?

/what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


Get $10 giftcards at Best Buy.
 
2012-12-31 11:47:45 PM  

Diagonal: Actually, even the phone is far more than I really need. All I really need in a phone is the ability to call numbers, remember numbers, store numbers, keep a calendar, and have a GPS (maybe five times a year?). What all that other stuff is for I have no idea. Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention.


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It's not technology's fault that you don't understand what different forms of communication are for or how to use them effectively. There is an order of precedence. A phone call means "I need to discuss this right now, preempting whatever you're doing right this second." A text means, "At your next opportunity..." An email means, "When you get a chance..." Texts and email are also a quick way to transfer precise information. Phone number, address, part number, instructions, etc. A voice call is great when you want to discuss something that has a lot of interaction like telling mom about your trip to Disneyland with the kids or asking the wife how her day was. But it's not necessary to interrupt a buddy just to ask if they want to meet at the bar after work or to say, "Poker night is on. My place at 7."
 
2012-12-31 11:51:57 PM  

Lord Dimwit: * If I'm going to read a book, the last thing I want to do is stare at a bright screen; I use my Kindle with an e-ink display.


I'm with you for the rest, and I find a tablet much too big for book reading, but this one I don't get.
On my "phone" I can adjust the e-book display so that it is only as bright as I need it to read. It's only as bright as an e-ink display or a paper book. And it's even easier on the eyes because the lighting is perfectly consistent across the page. Plus I don't have to worry about sitting near an external light source.
You can't read in the sun of course, but then I never did anyway. Mad dogs and Englishmen and all that.
 
2012-12-31 11:53:36 PM  

Telos: Rockstone: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

You do not have to worry. Gamers will always want desktops (as I do!)
The only thing that may happen is you'll have to build your own (which I did).

/sent from my Desktop.

Gamers... right. Because most gamers don't play on consoles right?

The desktop PC demographic will basically be programmers and computer nerds. (Not quite the same groups.) Hell, laptops these days can even play most games...

My fear is that parts will get much more expensive as demand for PC hardware goes way down and companies stop manufacturing...


That's a legitimate fear, somewhat.....game developers are developing for the consoles and doing simple ports to PC nowadays for a few extra bucks. The aim-assist and such can get to be a PITA for keyboard and mouse users, and the graphics are not really any real workout for a good PC.

That analogue has already happened, it's only a matter of time before hardware follows suit.

It may not impact your actual hardware much, but the form factor may eventually change. Consoles hit a sweet non-geek gamer niche(which they've expanded with the people who play games casually niche), so they aren't the same as a total paradigm shift.

There is a limit that is hit there, however. The need for ventilation and heat sinks for modern graphics won't go away any time soon. As I'm sure you know, that's one of the faults in consoles, they have consistently run on the bare minimum.

The desktop won't die any time soon, but it may eventually.

One thing you have keeping you in business, so to speak, is the requirement for powerful PC's for things like graphic designers, game designers, movie makers, etc.

Another is the controller / mouse boundary. When consoles allow keyboards and mice in things like FPS, people who play because of an equality factor the controller provides will become refugees in short order, no fun getting your ass handed to you. They stick around now because the lion's share don't use modded/3rd party hacked gear like that, but their numbers are growing.

That's my big fear, that the next console gens won't lock it up very well. I like my controller because it's comphy, and it's universal, all my competitors use it. If that goes away because they didn't secure their controllers, I'll not be adopting the new platforms.

Plenty of hacks and mods for games like CoD(because they use the same base code, the theory of modding them stays the same) on XBOX, every edition gets a bit worse. Which is the original reason I shifted to consoles, to get away from aimbots and such.
 
2013-01-01 12:38:34 AM  
If Grid really existed, the splash screen would display the 10 Commandments.

/At least for the Jewish guys.
 
2013-01-01 12:49:39 AM  

LabGrrl: tl.. I use my tablet like I should a phone..but I don't use phones. Oh and I watch crappy quality versions of movies and use mystical methods of transferring them to my big screen that don't exist yet

 
2013-01-01 01:09:33 AM  

jtown: Diagonal: Actually, even the phone is far more than I really need. All I really need in a phone is the ability to call numbers, remember numbers, store numbers, keep a calendar, and have a GPS (maybe five times a year?). What all that other stuff is for I have no idea. Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention.

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It's not technology's fault that you don't understand what different forms of communication are for or how to use them effectively. There is an order of precedence. A phone call means "I need to discuss this right now, preempting whatever you're doing right this second." A text means, "At your next opportunity..." An email means, "When you get a chance..." Texts and email are also a quick way to transfer precise information. Phone number, address, part number, instructions, etc. A voice call is great when you want to discuss something that has a lot of interaction like telling mom about your trip to Disneyland with the kids or asking the wife how her day was. But it's not necessary to interrupt a buddy just to ask if they want to meet at the bar after work or to say, "Poker night is on. My place at 7."


I concur. Also should add that texting has essentially replaced answering machines too. Much less hassle to check. Plus for me texting is a way to communicate with people without incurring long distance charges.

And there are many times that you can carry a conversation through texting that you couldn't with voice - while working, where it's noisy, when near other people, etc. Texting is more flexible than talking directly.
 
2013-01-01 01:13:16 AM  

JeffMD: LabGrrl: tl.. I use my tablet like I should a phone..but I don't use phones. Oh and I watch crappy quality versions of movies and use mystical methods of transferring them to my big screen that don't exist yet


You're funny, sweetness, and it's a company called sony, and their shiat works with their other shiat.
 
2013-01-01 01:34:42 AM  

Great Janitor: The coolest thing I've seen someone do with a tablet. They are a car salesman. They loaded their iPad with stuff about every model on the lot. They talk to a customer, customer asked a question, he turns on his iPad and shows them the information they asked for.


We were at the AT&T store the other day, my mother in law is on our plan and was upgrading to a smartphone (with the new data plans it was actually cheaper to have 3x iphones than 2 iphones and a dumbphone), all the associates had ipads and did everything on there, it was nice because he laid it flat on the counter and spun it around so we could see all the changes to the account, all the usage stats and everything, better than just a mysterious screen with all the relevant info facing the other way.

I think (hope) in a few years, all your relevant settings and bookmarks and small data, emails, contacts, internet and chat history, gamesaves and mods and things will be stored on sort of a thinclient smartphone type deal combined with the cloud and your tablet/laptop/desktop/whatever will just be a larger screen and whatever necessary horsepower is needed to run real software when your sitting in front of it. Want to browse the web, or chat, or relist your world of warcraft auctions or program your 0x10c CPU, whatever, fine from your phone/tablet, pick up a laptop or sit in front of a desktop, all your same settings are there, but with an actual graphics card to play the games, browse spreadsheets, etc. People will always want a desk and a big screen for stuff.
 
2013-01-01 02:03:49 AM  
What happens if I don't want a friggin' tablet???

I'm on the computer enough...I do it for work. (IT/DBA/Dev)
 
2013-01-01 02:06:31 AM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


And you deal with that shiat by converting it to a digital format.

/long did that with all my LaserDiscs that you still can't buy anywhere.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:34 AM  
75% of Americans still use VCR's?
Oh, I see what you did there.
www.baarbarian.com
 
2013-01-01 03:31:09 AM  

Jarhead_h: [www.demotivation.us image 600x503]


And just why the fark is that comma just haphazardly placed in the middle of that sentence?
 
2013-01-01 03:33:07 AM  
I recently purchased a tablet (Asus TF700T), plus keyboard dock.

So basically I get a touch-screen laptop when I want, and a tablet otherwise.

Email, video chat, interwebs, the all-important ssh console, it's all there. Plus all the nifty features of a high-end tablet.

Once the weather stops being shiatweather I'll actually be able to go "outside" with it, and meet people, which will be a nice change from being tethered to my desktop 14 hours a day.
 
2013-01-01 04:44:50 AM  

420Gabriel: Samsung smart phone $80 Does everything.
Ipad $600 Does everything except make phone calls.


Yep tough choice


the phone's $600 retail and you're probably paying, what, $2400 over the course of two years for shiatty service, no warranty or upgrades?
 
2013-01-01 06:00:40 AM  
My wife and I dined out at a very modest local bistro last night. There were three homeless guys at the next table. One of them had an iPad. He was playing Angry Birds on it.
 
2013-01-01 07:29:42 AM  

downstairs: dickfreckle: we've all known that person who calls to ask a simple question and it turns into a 10 minute ordeal.

I love my wife and all, but damn... can.  she.  talk.   and talk.  and talk.

Its all good when we're hanging out, but thank god for texting when it comes to "pick up milk on the way home"


This is why I'm what they call a "man's man." I fall passionately in love on a regular basis, but I prefer hanging out with the guys. Why? Because they mostly STFU after making their point. Male Farkers are known for making long, drawn-out posts, but at least we're trying to illustrate some sort of point. Your wife will drone on and on about picking up the milk, her mother, the price of tea in China, the b*tch co-worker who stole her sandwich one day in 2007...

The way I see it, women chattering until the end of time is just the price we pay for our own male tendencies. We suck, too. Aggressive, stubborn...and don't get in my way on a Sunday during football season.
 
2013-01-01 10:26:51 AM  

Cyno01:

I think (hope) in a few years, all your relevant settings and bookmarks and small data, emails, contacts, internet and chat history, gamesaves and mods and things will be stored on sort of a thinclient smartphone type deal combined with the cloud and your tablet/laptop/desktop/whatever will just be a larger screen and whatever necessary horsepower is needed to run real software when your sitting in front of it. Want to browse the web, or chat, or relist your world of warcraft auctions or program your 0x10c CPU, whatever, fine from your phone/tablet, pick up a laptop or sit in front of a desktop, all your same settings are there, but with an actual graphics card to play the games, browse spreadsheets, etc. People will always want a desk and a big screen for stuff.


Oh, this is the way the industry is going....mostly so they can start charging you $30 a month to keep you bookmarks synced in the cloud. And then lop on a couple of extra surcharges for bandwidth usage. The way god intended, instead of this whole "you get to have access to your data for free on a local harddrive" thing.
 
2013-01-01 10:48:20 AM  
I just don't need a tablet at this point. I have a powerful laptop for work and a good smartphone. I bought a basic Kindle dirt cheap for reading (no way am I going to read books on an LED screen), so what would I do with a tablet that I can't do with the other devices?
 
2013-01-01 11:13:21 AM  
If I could afford the data plan of a smartphone, I would likely agree with what many of you are saying. However, I cannot, and this nexus 7 has been great. I've had it about two weeks now and use it all the time. Web browsing, reading books and comics, emails, gaming (old school ROMs mostly), movies and shows, etc etc, all work great. Typing kind of sucks, but overall, I'm very happy with the purchase.
 
2013-01-01 12:03:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Diagonal: Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention."

Texts are for giving someone info without getting into a long drawn out conversation. If my wife wants to tell me to pick up some milk on the way home from work, she just sends me a text instead of having to call me just to tell me two words. Or if you're running a few minutes late, you can easily let someone know. It's basically perfect for short bits of information that you need to convey with an urgency that email just doesn't have.


This. Text messages serve an important function for quick messages. You left out "asking a short question that can be answered when you have a free minute, but don't want to wait for someone to sit at laptop or desktop to check emails." It's less intrusive.
 
2013-01-01 12:50:12 PM  

omeganuepsilon: The desktop won't die any time soon, but it may eventually.


So long as there is demand (which there are), the desktop will live.


omeganuepsilon: Another is the controller / mouse boundary. When consoles allow keyboards and mice in things like FPS, people who play because of an equality factor the controller provides will become refugees in short order, no fun getting your ass handed to you. They stick around now because the lion's share don't use modded/3rd party hacked gear like that, but their numbers are growing.

That's my big fear, that the next console gens won't lock it up very well. I like my controller because it's comphy, and it's universal, all my competitors use it. If that goes away because they didn't secure their controllers, I'll not be adopting the new platforms.


I have a friend who is using his PS3 controller and was kicking butt in Killing Floor the other day.
 
2013-01-01 12:51:23 PM  
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and love it. Mind you, it actually does useful things that the average ipad user won't be able to do.

The reason I got it is to help me go paperless. I now take all my work notes on it. I am using the Quill app, but that may change as the S-note app is due for a major overhaul once the jelly bean update comes out for it. Handwriting is great on it, and the stylus that it comes with is comfortable to use. I tag all my notes and it organizes itself quite nicely.

Someone gives me a piece of paper? I take a picture of it with the camera scanning app and I never have to handle the piece of paper again. I can make any notes I need right on document using an app and stylus. Someone emails me? I can edit it just like any other digital document.

A big part of my job is auditing worksites. I run the excel spreadsheet we use to audit on my tablet and fill out the document on the go, while I hold the tablet like a clipboard. I couldn't even imagine doing this with a laptop, plus I take pictures as I go and upload them when I submit the audit. Simple, no paper document to transcribe. It saves me a ton of time.

I can get crappy wifi in any of the places I audit so I am always connected for email and anything else. If I care to have a better signal, I just run the wifi hotspot app on my phone, in seconds I have a great signal and can do anything I can do at home. I already pay for a 6GB data plan and I use about 4 GB a month this way.

Having a tablet at home means I don't have to set up my netbook or work laptop to do anything. I also bought a few magazine subscriptions through Google play and not only are they cheaper than paper magazines, they don't take up any space, I can bookmark and screenshot pages if I want to go back to something, and they are archived locally and digitally. If I want to read it on another device like my desktop, I simply get it on google play and do that. Netflix and anything else I care to watch is at my fingertips, and my tablet even plans any TV I want to watch through the app it came with. Did I mention it also comes with a better remote control app than the Logitech Harmony? I still have a desktop for any work that I need a keyboard and mouse for, and of course gaming.

I get the feeling that the crotchety Luddites on this thread simply haven't tried to use a tablet to do things, or tried one that is little better than a toy (ie ipad). The Samsung Note 10.1 actually lets you get shiat done on it instead of just being a glorified reader/crappy game machine.

tl/dr: get a decent tablet, go paperless. Like paper? Don't bother with a tablet, you won't like it.
 
2013-01-01 01:15:09 PM  

moothemagiccow: 420Gabriel: Samsung smart phone $80 Does everything.
Ipad $600 Does everything except make phone calls.


Yep tough choice

the phone's $600 retail and you're probably paying, what, $2400 over the course of two years for shiatty service, no warranty or upgrades?



LOL

Phone is 150 retail, no contract. Only people who cannot do basic math would sign up for a contract.
Service is impeccable.
Yep no warranty or upgrades, never needed either in the past, dont need them now either.


Nice try fanboi
 
2013-01-01 01:20:11 PM  

Farktastic: I get the feeling that the crotchety Luddites on this thread simply haven't tried to use a tablet to do things, or tried one that is little better than a toy (ie ipad). The Samsung Note 10.1 actually lets you get shiat done on it instead of just being a glorified reader/crappy game machine.


No. It's simply that a tablet works for your job. You go to sites and have to take notes. A friend of mine sells a stock control application for tablets. No-one is denying that there aren't some real-world getting-paid uses for tablets.

But I'm pretty sceptical about how much many of them are being used. 25% of Americans own a tablet? Yet the browser stats show that all mobile (phone + tablet) is around 15%. I know half a dozen people with iPads and 3 of them consider them to be a waste of money. One of the others is a Machead, and even if he thought it was useless, he wouldn't admit to it.
 
2013-01-01 01:29:19 PM  

GreenAdder: Jarhead_h: [www.demotivation.us image 600x503]

And just why the fark is that comma just haphazardly placed in the middle of that sentence?


Ask whoever made the thing.
 
2013-01-01 01:34:38 PM  

meteorite: I've got a tablet and absolutely love it. I'm a 34 year old guy who is going back to school full time. I don't have a smart phone either. For a fe hundred dollars I got something I can connect to the Internet with just about where that has wifi. With that I can email, play on the Internet, make phonecalls for free with Talkatone and Google voice, and watch Netflix. Not only that but the majority of people in my classes will print out all the PowerPoint presentations the teachers put online, take notes on them, and then file them in giant binders hat they use to study from. When it comes time for study groups, they haul the big binders and text books with them. I probably could run do most of that stuff with a laptop instead but I like having something smaller and lighter. Not only that but classes often go from 8:30-2:30 and then I'll study after classes get out for a while as well and most laptop batteries won't go that long. Instead of having the big binders that everyone else has or worrying about if my laptop battery will lot long enough I just use my iPad and I'm good to go for the day. I'm perfectly fine with the onscreen keyboard as well.


Came in to say almost exactly this. I use a 7" Gtab instead of an iPad. The thing is the most useful piece of tech I've ever owned, and that's coming from someone who scoffed at tablets when they first appeared. In addition to all of the above, I keep all of my textbooks on it and if I need to write a paper when I'm not at home, I just toss my bluetooth keyboard into my bag before I leave the house (I've even dictated a short 3-page paper to it in a pinch).

The ideal size for a mobile device is 5"-8" IMO. I don't know why anyone would spend all of that money on a smartphone with a tiny useless screen, when you could have a Note II, Gtab 7, or iPad mini, and just ditch the phone altogether.
 
2013-01-01 01:45:21 PM  

farkeruk: No. It's simply that a tablet works for your job.


Granted, there are some things a tablet isn't good for, but a lot of the time it's more an issue of realizing how to apply the tablet to a given situation. I did the same thing as Farktastic (went paperless, mostly) for school a year ago, and it still seems like I have a "duh" moment once a week where I discover a new use for the tablet. It's just a matter of breaking habits and being resourceful.

People do look at you funny the first few times when they go to hand you a piece of paper, and you snap a photo and hand it back to them.
 
2013-01-01 01:55:54 PM  

Farktastic: I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and love it. Mind you, it actually does useful things that the average ipad user won't be able to do.

The reason I got it is to help me go paperless. I now take all my work notes on it. I am using the Quill app, but that may change as the S-note app is due for a major overhaul once the jelly bean update comes out for it. Handwriting is great on it, and the stylus that it comes with is comfortable to use. I tag all my notes and it organizes itself quite nicely.

Someone gives me a piece of paper? I take a picture of it with the camera scanning app and I never have to handle the piece of paper again.


Cool. So you can take a picture of a pretty woman as well, and not have to bring her home? Ah, I get it.
 
2013-01-01 02:38:11 PM  
You're my farking hero
 
2013-01-01 02:43:16 PM  

Kaiser Blade: You're my farking hero


Not you, the other guy. Ohhhhhhh well, back to my tablet gaming!!
 
2013-01-01 03:24:58 PM  

Rockstone: I have a friend who is using his PS3 controller and was kicking butt in Killing Floor the other day.


Oh, it can be done, I played Halo PC with a game controller instead of keyboard and mouse and did pretty well.

But there is a cap to the precision that a controller is capable of, and it shows in a mixed environment.

A really good mouse user will land more precision shots than a really good controller user.
 
2013-01-01 04:33:22 PM  
We use the bijesus out of ours for our side business for selling/running/ credit cards/ tracking inventory at craft fairs. Square has a great register app (only for iPad, bastards) that has a good reporting function of what's selling, taxes, etc. I use it on the road to show a gallery to clients , take orders, do designs on the fly and email to them. Granted, this is a specialized group of functions, but we dig it for our needs.
 
2013-01-02 04:34:48 PM  
I don't own a tablet, nor have I ever needed one.

Hope you all have fun on that day when all of your tablets emit that eerie frequency that turns you all into mindless zombies as you march toward the nearest factory to be "upgraded" into Cybermen.

www.bbc.co.uk
 
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