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(Tech Crunch)   New survey finds that one in four Americans now owns a tablet. The other three are still trying to figure out how to get their VCR clock from flashing "12:00"   (techcrunch.com) divider line 162
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2012-12-31 07:38:49 PM
Why does that flashing number matter? I don't need a working clock to know I bested my fastest speed.

/actually I do, only able to shave off seconds at a time these days
//must be old age creeping up on me
 
2012-12-31 07:39:11 PM

Homr: I have tablets mounted into every room in my house. The sit flush in the wall until I need them, then it's easy to pull out. Music / internet when in the bathroom when getting ready or perched upon the throne, recipes in the kitchen, web surfing in the living room, alarm clock / weather / notes for the day in the bedroom when I wake up. Plus I can leave messages for the GF, send myself grocery lists, have a camera always near by for what ever comes up and then some. And a relatively inexpensive set-up.


Nifty
 
2012-12-31 07:49:34 PM

Kaiser Blade: I game


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2012-12-31 07:51:50 PM

ongbok: Subby may look like this.

[www.brobible.com image 640x791]


If subby is going to crossdress then subby should make the god damn effort to shave their legs and beard off.
 
2012-12-31 07:51:53 PM

Edymnion: I fail to see the point in a tablet.

They are for casual use only, and everything they can offer that way is already covered by my smartphone. Quick surfing on the go, smartphone. Typing up a paper or doing real work, desktop.


- watching Netflix while on the stepper or cross-trainer at the gym.

- reading journal articles in PDF.

- following a recipe while cooking.
 
2012-12-31 08:34:35 PM
I really dont know what id do with a tablet. More comfortable web browsing on the couch, which would be nice, and comic books on the bus i guess, so if i ever had a few hundred extra dollars laying around and didnt need a new smartphone or desktop i guess, maybe, but my smartphone is good enough for reading fark when im not at my desk, which is probably 90% of what i do with it.
 
2012-12-31 08:41:27 PM
Before I bought this tablet, I figured my cell phone was good enough for mobile browsing. And it was, of course. Then the phone died and I realized I don't talk on cell phones much anymore. And this nexus 7 was as expensive as the low end nexus 4. Basically I traded a really nice camera on the 4 for a big ass screen on the 7. Works for me.

/CSB
 
2012-12-31 08:54:32 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

No doubt.

[dchoos.org image 850x565]

/i'd like a big tablet for reading comics


Did you unplug that from the wall yourself? Ma Bell will punish you for your temerity.
 
2012-12-31 08:58:19 PM

ongbok: Congratulations. You are the first person I have ever heard that can actually explain how they use their tablet for something constructive.

/Seriously


I do e-mail, submit manuscripts, edit said documents and do some video editing work (nothing fancy obviously). I freely admit the bulk of editing is done on a desktop but the slate is good enough for simple stuff.

Ohh and a huge stack of books shoved in to the Kindle app as well for entertainment and a remote control for XBMC.

If you include Ghastly using his for drawing you now know three.
 
2012-12-31 09:06:37 PM
Tablets are replacing the kitchen tv. Lots of people have had a use for 13in TVs and such over the years... in the kitchen while you good, out in the garage while you're working on something, stuff like that. Not *everyone* has small supplementary TVs scattered about, but some do, and tablets easily fill that void. Plus, you don't have to have one in each room... you can pick it up and carry it anywhere, including the bathroom. When I cut the cord, the first thing I did with the extra money was get a tablet.
 
2012-12-31 09:07:35 PM

cretinbob: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Only Subby.
No, the other 3 don't really give a shiat about carrying another hunk of useless crap around that does what?


I don't usually allow others to speak for me but in this case, I don't think there's anything I would change.
 
2012-12-31 09:07:46 PM
I like our TF700.  Great for flights.  Wife and I trade between the tablet and 3DS.

Tablet is far superior than phone for everything non-phone related.
 
2012-12-31 09:15:22 PM

omeganuepsilon: Kaiser Blade: I game


FF3, chess, and Osmos are about as far as it goes... but hey, they're still games. I still remember when I was hardcore enough to be condescending about it.
 
2012-12-31 09:29:47 PM

hoots_toot_ochaye: RexTalionis: People still own VCRs?

Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


I read that as "porn".
 
2012-12-31 09:33:40 PM
One tablet? Hah! I've got bottles of them. What's this VCR you kids are talking about? What is that, some sort of electrical-powered phonographs?
 
2012-12-31 09:50:56 PM
I have several tablets.

/ I also have some pills and a wide variety of suppositories.
 
2012-12-31 10:02:36 PM
Meh my netbook is running fine. When it dies, maybe a tablet.
I still have my IBM thinkpad 770x. The kids play doom on it
 
2012-12-31 10:13:46 PM

Surool: Unlike subby, many of us non-baristas need actual computers to do real work.

 
2012-12-31 10:27:47 PM
HP Touchpad 32 gig, running Jelly Bean.  When I at home I use it for reading in bed, on the shiatter, and recipes while cooking.

On the road I use it to make skype calls, watch movies, compose emails, and watch movies.  And I get about six hours battery life browsking and watching videos continuously.

It is coupled with a logitech bluetooth keyboard and that all fit into a tiny bag.  Much easier for me to travel internationally with and it means I can leave my laptop and its backpack at home.
 
2012-12-31 10:33:33 PM

theflatline: HP Touchpad 32 gig, running Jelly Bean.  When I at home I use it for reading in bed, on the shiatter, and recipes while cooking.

On the road I use it to make skype calls, watch movies, compose emails, and watch movies.  And I get about six hours battery life browsking and watching videos continuously.

It is coupled with a logitech bluetooth keyboard and that all fit into a tiny bag.  Much easier for me to travel internationally with and it means I can leave my laptop and its backpack at home.


Thanks for the tip... my mom has a touchpad and i need to start looking into a new OS to load on that baby sooner or later
 
2012-12-31 10:36:41 PM

Telos: Gamers... right. Because most gamers don't play on consoles right?


Actually, no, most gamers don't.
The times are changing, the tides are shifting.


Telos: The desktop PC demographic will basically be programmers and computer nerds. (Not quite the same groups.) Hell, laptops these days can even play most games...

My fear is that parts will get much more expensive as demand for PC hardware goes way down and companies stop manufacturing...


Most of the hardcore PC games have a primary gaming desktop. Laptops can play most games alright, but not at the same fidelity of a Desktop. Hell, I even was playing minecraft the other night, and everyone other than one person was on a Desktop, and that one person was about to build his desktop.

I don't think parts will get more expensive.
 
2012-12-31 10:39:57 PM

cryinoutloud: Oh poor me. I don't own all the latest and greatest consumer products that some mega-corporation told me I "needed." Excuse me now while I die of shame.


seriously. either some a-wipe is crying about how we're a capitalistic pig consumer society polluting the earth for the sake of useless unnecessary goods or anyone that doesn't have what Kid Dooshbag owns doesn't qualify as human. everybody can go fark themselves. i like my 16MM silent movie reels and the rotary wall phone still works just fine, dagnabit.
 
2012-12-31 10:41:48 PM

gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.


as long as people need PC's for ya know... actual work and not dicking around on the internet, there will be desktops

/has an ipad for dicking around on the internet
//has a custom desktop that pays for junk like the ipad
 
2012-12-31 10:46:07 PM
Tablet practically lives in the kitchen for recipes, when the weather changes I imagine it will live in the garden. It also is a remote control for my television/blu ray, and lets me have fark open when my laptop is running other crap that's all fullscreen. I've had it now for a fricking week and I keep finding other stuff to do with it. Use it to access my tunes and films on the NAS, run splashtop to keep an eye on crap on the laptop when I've got to do stuff elsewhere. If I want to watch a movie I put it on the big screen with the surround sound, by flicking the movie towards it.
Also will probably use it WITH the laptop when DMing next week. Moar screens, plz.

Have a doctor's appointment in a couple weeks, my records are on the damn thing (scancam), plus the readings for the stupid monitor that's keeping me alive between appointments. In about 20 hours, it will remind me to take the once a week pills, and remind me not to forget to eat because the pills make me do that.

...oh, and I don't use a cell phone, nor use the tablet for telephony. If I have to go somewhere without wifi, you can leave a goddamned message.
 
2012-12-31 10:48:07 PM

Rockstone: I don't think parts will get more expensive.


Rumour mill suggests Intel's next generation CPU will not be socket-able. It'll be soldered on to the board and not user replaceable.

I can see that putting the price of a system up as you'll have to do some serious digging to find the board with all the features you want carrying the CPU you've selected.

Assuming the rumour mill and Intel's OEM briefing are correct of course.
 
2012-12-31 11:00:00 PM

Vaneshi: Rockstone: I don't think parts will get more expensive.

Rumour mill suggests Intel's next generation CPU will not be socket-able. It'll be soldered on to the board and not user replaceable.

I can see that putting the price of a system up as you'll have to do some serious digging to find the board with all the features you want carrying the CPU you've selected.

Assuming the rumour mill and Intel's OEM briefing are correct of course.


I predict a huge backlash against Intel if that happens. I don't care if I loose out on some performance, I'll go AMD for my next update.
Besides, it's not happening:


http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_says_company_committed_so c kets2012
 
2012-12-31 11:26:57 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

No doubt.

[dchoos.org image 850x565]

/i'd like a big tablet for reading comics


Take a look at the Nexus 10. It's as good as digital comicing will get for a while. With 2560x1600 pixels at 300dpi, you can view the full pages as intended by the artists. Text and graphics are razor sharp. No need for the Guided View that zooms in on small sections of the page to read the text. Samsung was going to put out a 12.something inch tablet of the same resolution but I think it got bumped for the Nexus 10. That would be the perfect size with the screen being the size of a comic page. I'm a bit disappointed that it's not an OLED display, tho. I'm spoiled by the one on my phone.
 
2012-12-31 11:29:31 PM

Kaiser Blade: omeganuepsilon: Kaiser Blade: I game

FF3, chess, and Osmos are about as far as it goes... but hey, they're still games. I still remember when I was hardcore enough to be condescending about it.


I play games =/= I game
Games =/= gamer

It's not about my condescension, as it is about your projection.

I'm merely talking about accurate classification.

My 72 year old mother plays hearts, maybe solitaire on the pc. She is not a gamer.

My 75 year old father plays multiple modern RPG's , he is a gamer.

While there is no real dictionary definition, calling you a gamer(based on phone/tablet usage), would be intellectually dishonest.

Back to your projecting. You may not have an iProduct, but it's still obviously a status symbol. You're like the office jock that plays WoW for the geek chic self image. I can smell your desperation to belong from here.

Sure, everyone has that need to belong, but the way it manifests has a lot to do with your personality, it says a lot about you.
 
2012-12-31 11:46:22 PM

Crunch61: I still have a cell phone that's just a cell phone and all my TVs are CRTs. They work just fine. Why replace them?

/what do you do with a used 150-pound CRT TV anyway?


Get $10 giftcards at Best Buy.
 
2012-12-31 11:47:45 PM

Diagonal: Actually, even the phone is far more than I really need. All I really need in a phone is the ability to call numbers, remember numbers, store numbers, keep a calendar, and have a GPS (maybe five times a year?). What all that other stuff is for I have no idea. Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention.


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It's not technology's fault that you don't understand what different forms of communication are for or how to use them effectively. There is an order of precedence. A phone call means "I need to discuss this right now, preempting whatever you're doing right this second." A text means, "At your next opportunity..." An email means, "When you get a chance..." Texts and email are also a quick way to transfer precise information. Phone number, address, part number, instructions, etc. A voice call is great when you want to discuss something that has a lot of interaction like telling mom about your trip to Disneyland with the kids or asking the wife how her day was. But it's not necessary to interrupt a buddy just to ask if they want to meet at the bar after work or to say, "Poker night is on. My place at 7."
 
2012-12-31 11:51:57 PM

Lord Dimwit: * If I'm going to read a book, the last thing I want to do is stare at a bright screen; I use my Kindle with an e-ink display.


I'm with you for the rest, and I find a tablet much too big for book reading, but this one I don't get.
On my "phone" I can adjust the e-book display so that it is only as bright as I need it to read. It's only as bright as an e-ink display or a paper book. And it's even easier on the eyes because the lighting is perfectly consistent across the page. Plus I don't have to worry about sitting near an external light source.
You can't read in the sun of course, but then I never did anyway. Mad dogs and Englishmen and all that.
 
2012-12-31 11:53:36 PM

Telos: Rockstone: gopher321: I hope to god they never stop making desktops - the only computer type I bother to use.

As long as there are homes, I guess, there will always be a home-based computer type.

You do not have to worry. Gamers will always want desktops (as I do!)
The only thing that may happen is you'll have to build your own (which I did).

/sent from my Desktop.

Gamers... right. Because most gamers don't play on consoles right?

The desktop PC demographic will basically be programmers and computer nerds. (Not quite the same groups.) Hell, laptops these days can even play most games...

My fear is that parts will get much more expensive as demand for PC hardware goes way down and companies stop manufacturing...


That's a legitimate fear, somewhat.....game developers are developing for the consoles and doing simple ports to PC nowadays for a few extra bucks. The aim-assist and such can get to be a PITA for keyboard and mouse users, and the graphics are not really any real workout for a good PC.

That analogue has already happened, it's only a matter of time before hardware follows suit.

It may not impact your actual hardware much, but the form factor may eventually change. Consoles hit a sweet non-geek gamer niche(which they've expanded with the people who play games casually niche), so they aren't the same as a total paradigm shift.

There is a limit that is hit there, however. The need for ventilation and heat sinks for modern graphics won't go away any time soon. As I'm sure you know, that's one of the faults in consoles, they have consistently run on the bare minimum.

The desktop won't die any time soon, but it may eventually.

One thing you have keeping you in business, so to speak, is the requirement for powerful PC's for things like graphic designers, game designers, movie makers, etc.

Another is the controller / mouse boundary. When consoles allow keyboards and mice in things like FPS, people who play because of an equality factor the controller provides will become refugees in short order, no fun getting your ass handed to you. They stick around now because the lion's share don't use modded/3rd party hacked gear like that, but their numbers are growing.

That's my big fear, that the next console gens won't lock it up very well. I like my controller because it's comphy, and it's universal, all my competitors use it. If that goes away because they didn't secure their controllers, I'll not be adopting the new platforms.

Plenty of hacks and mods for games like CoD(because they use the same base code, the theory of modding them stays the same) on XBOX, every edition gets a bit worse. Which is the original reason I shifted to consoles, to get away from aimbots and such.
 
2013-01-01 12:38:34 AM
If Grid really existed, the splash screen would display the 10 Commandments.

/At least for the Jewish guys.
 
2013-01-01 12:49:39 AM

LabGrrl: tl.. I use my tablet like I should a phone..but I don't use phones. Oh and I watch crappy quality versions of movies and use mystical methods of transferring them to my big screen that don't exist yet

 
2013-01-01 01:09:33 AM

jtown: Diagonal: Actually, even the phone is far more than I really need. All I really need in a phone is the ability to call numbers, remember numbers, store numbers, keep a calendar, and have a GPS (maybe five times a year?). What all that other stuff is for I have no idea. Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention.

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It's not technology's fault that you don't understand what different forms of communication are for or how to use them effectively. There is an order of precedence. A phone call means "I need to discuss this right now, preempting whatever you're doing right this second." A text means, "At your next opportunity..." An email means, "When you get a chance..." Texts and email are also a quick way to transfer precise information. Phone number, address, part number, instructions, etc. A voice call is great when you want to discuss something that has a lot of interaction like telling mom about your trip to Disneyland with the kids or asking the wife how her day was. But it's not necessary to interrupt a buddy just to ask if they want to meet at the bar after work or to say, "Poker night is on. My place at 7."


I concur. Also should add that texting has essentially replaced answering machines too. Much less hassle to check. Plus for me texting is a way to communicate with people without incurring long distance charges.

And there are many times that you can carry a conversation through texting that you couldn't with voice - while working, where it's noisy, when near other people, etc. Texting is more flexible than talking directly.
 
2013-01-01 01:13:16 AM

JeffMD: LabGrrl: tl.. I use my tablet like I should a phone..but I don't use phones. Oh and I watch crappy quality versions of movies and use mystical methods of transferring them to my big screen that don't exist yet


You're funny, sweetness, and it's a company called sony, and their shiat works with their other shiat.
 
2013-01-01 01:34:42 AM

Great Janitor: The coolest thing I've seen someone do with a tablet. They are a car salesman. They loaded their iPad with stuff about every model on the lot. They talk to a customer, customer asked a question, he turns on his iPad and shows them the information they asked for.


We were at the AT&T store the other day, my mother in law is on our plan and was upgrading to a smartphone (with the new data plans it was actually cheaper to have 3x iphones than 2 iphones and a dumbphone), all the associates had ipads and did everything on there, it was nice because he laid it flat on the counter and spun it around so we could see all the changes to the account, all the usage stats and everything, better than just a mysterious screen with all the relevant info facing the other way.

I think (hope) in a few years, all your relevant settings and bookmarks and small data, emails, contacts, internet and chat history, gamesaves and mods and things will be stored on sort of a thinclient smartphone type deal combined with the cloud and your tablet/laptop/desktop/whatever will just be a larger screen and whatever necessary horsepower is needed to run real software when your sitting in front of it. Want to browse the web, or chat, or relist your world of warcraft auctions or program your 0x10c CPU, whatever, fine from your phone/tablet, pick up a laptop or sit in front of a desktop, all your same settings are there, but with an actual graphics card to play the games, browse spreadsheets, etc. People will always want a desk and a big screen for stuff.
 
2013-01-01 02:03:49 AM
What happens if I don't want a friggin' tablet???

I'm on the computer enough...I do it for work. (IT/DBA/Dev)
 
2013-01-01 02:06:31 AM

hoots_toot_ochaye: Why yes, yes I do.  And I still use it too.  I've got things on VHS that haven't come out on DVD yet, and probably never will.  Plus I've got stuff on VHS that I just don't care to go to the expense of replacing with DVD.


And you deal with that shiat by converting it to a digital format.

/long did that with all my LaserDiscs that you still can't buy anywhere.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:34 AM
75% of Americans still use VCR's?
Oh, I see what you did there.
www.baarbarian.com
 
2013-01-01 03:31:09 AM

Jarhead_h: [www.demotivation.us image 600x503]


And just why the fark is that comma just haphazardly placed in the middle of that sentence?
 
2013-01-01 03:33:07 AM
I recently purchased a tablet (Asus TF700T), plus keyboard dock.

So basically I get a touch-screen laptop when I want, and a tablet otherwise.

Email, video chat, interwebs, the all-important ssh console, it's all there. Plus all the nifty features of a high-end tablet.

Once the weather stops being shiatweather I'll actually be able to go "outside" with it, and meet people, which will be a nice change from being tethered to my desktop 14 hours a day.
 
2013-01-01 04:44:50 AM

420Gabriel: Samsung smart phone $80 Does everything.
Ipad $600 Does everything except make phone calls.


Yep tough choice


the phone's $600 retail and you're probably paying, what, $2400 over the course of two years for shiatty service, no warranty or upgrades?
 
2013-01-01 06:00:40 AM
My wife and I dined out at a very modest local bistro last night. There were three homeless guys at the next table. One of them had an iPad. He was playing Angry Birds on it.
 
2013-01-01 07:29:42 AM

downstairs: dickfreckle: we've all known that person who calls to ask a simple question and it turns into a 10 minute ordeal.

I love my wife and all, but damn... can.  she.  talk.   and talk.  and talk.

Its all good when we're hanging out, but thank god for texting when it comes to "pick up milk on the way home"


This is why I'm what they call a "man's man." I fall passionately in love on a regular basis, but I prefer hanging out with the guys. Why? Because they mostly STFU after making their point. Male Farkers are known for making long, drawn-out posts, but at least we're trying to illustrate some sort of point. Your wife will drone on and on about picking up the milk, her mother, the price of tea in China, the b*tch co-worker who stole her sandwich one day in 2007...

The way I see it, women chattering until the end of time is just the price we pay for our own male tendencies. We suck, too. Aggressive, stubborn...and don't get in my way on a Sunday during football season.
 
2013-01-01 10:26:51 AM

Cyno01:

I think (hope) in a few years, all your relevant settings and bookmarks and small data, emails, contacts, internet and chat history, gamesaves and mods and things will be stored on sort of a thinclient smartphone type deal combined with the cloud and your tablet/laptop/desktop/whatever will just be a larger screen and whatever necessary horsepower is needed to run real software when your sitting in front of it. Want to browse the web, or chat, or relist your world of warcraft auctions or program your 0x10c CPU, whatever, fine from your phone/tablet, pick up a laptop or sit in front of a desktop, all your same settings are there, but with an actual graphics card to play the games, browse spreadsheets, etc. People will always want a desk and a big screen for stuff.


Oh, this is the way the industry is going....mostly so they can start charging you $30 a month to keep you bookmarks synced in the cloud. And then lop on a couple of extra surcharges for bandwidth usage. The way god intended, instead of this whole "you get to have access to your data for free on a local harddrive" thing.
 
2013-01-01 10:48:20 AM
I just don't need a tablet at this point. I have a powerful laptop for work and a good smartphone. I bought a basic Kindle dirt cheap for reading (no way am I going to read books on an LED screen), so what would I do with a tablet that I can't do with the other devices?
 
2013-01-01 11:13:21 AM
If I could afford the data plan of a smartphone, I would likely agree with what many of you are saying. However, I cannot, and this nexus 7 has been great. I've had it about two weeks now and use it all the time. Web browsing, reading books and comics, emails, gaming (old school ROMs mostly), movies and shows, etc etc, all work great. Typing kind of sucks, but overall, I'm very happy with the purchase.
 
2013-01-01 12:03:32 PM

Mad_Radhu: Diagonal: Why send text messages? Why not just call and actually talk to someone. To me texting has an underlying premise, "You are important enough for me to pester but not important enough for me to call and talk to. You're basically some kind of flopping appendage that needs occasional attention."

Texts are for giving someone info without getting into a long drawn out conversation. If my wife wants to tell me to pick up some milk on the way home from work, she just sends me a text instead of having to call me just to tell me two words. Or if you're running a few minutes late, you can easily let someone know. It's basically perfect for short bits of information that you need to convey with an urgency that email just doesn't have.


This. Text messages serve an important function for quick messages. You left out "asking a short question that can be answered when you have a free minute, but don't want to wait for someone to sit at laptop or desktop to check emails." It's less intrusive.
 
2013-01-01 12:50:12 PM

omeganuepsilon: The desktop won't die any time soon, but it may eventually.


So long as there is demand (which there are), the desktop will live.


omeganuepsilon: Another is the controller / mouse boundary. When consoles allow keyboards and mice in things like FPS, people who play because of an equality factor the controller provides will become refugees in short order, no fun getting your ass handed to you. They stick around now because the lion's share don't use modded/3rd party hacked gear like that, but their numbers are growing.

That's my big fear, that the next console gens won't lock it up very well. I like my controller because it's comphy, and it's universal, all my competitors use it. If that goes away because they didn't secure their controllers, I'll not be adopting the new platforms.


I have a friend who is using his PS3 controller and was kicking butt in Killing Floor the other day.
 
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