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2012-12-31 07:38:50 AM
Muggings aren't so much a problem as being pushed off platform is, particularly i9f you are an Asian male.
 
2012-12-31 09:03:13 AM

mikemoto: Muggings aren't so much a problem as being pushed off platform is, particularly i9f you are an Asian male.


Or Indian female, apparently.
 
2012-12-31 01:05:55 PM
Indeed, we need an app to warn us of crazy homeless people on the platform.  Except, given the amount of crazy homeless people in NYC these days the app would bust your data cap every month.
 
2012-12-31 01:24:23 PM
MTA releases NYC subway app to help commuters with exact time before arrivals, departures, muggings pushings

Do I have to do everything around here?

/CNR would be proud
 
2012-12-31 01:25:06 PM
Pushed onto the tracks?

There's a decapp for that.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:57 PM
commuters be shovin
 
2012-12-31 01:40:55 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: mikemoto: Muggings aren't so much a problem as being pushed off platform is, particularly i9f you are an Asian male.

Or Indian female, apparently.


Indian male. The pusher was female.
 
2012-12-31 01:45:49 PM
lulz platform pushing
 
2012-12-31 01:47:38 PM
wow, i'm really surprised that this doesn't already exist in new york

/ i'm in new orleans i can get real time info on buses/streetcars
// sometimes... when it works...
 
2012-12-31 01:53:10 PM
Only covers about 1/4 of the subway lines, and none of the ones I use regularly.

The MTA and TWU and the various contractors are all lazy and incompetent. Maybe it's time to reconsider private for-profit operation.
 
2012-12-31 01:56:35 PM
Wow, the CTA has had this available for at least 2-3 years now. Better late than never, I guess
 
2012-12-31 02:00:30 PM

poot_rootbeer: Only covers about 1/4 of the subway lines, and none of the ones I use regularly.

The MTA and TWU and the various contractors are all lazy and incompetent. Maybe it's time to reconsider private for-profit operation.


Infrastructure is not a P&L center, just as the national highway system and the FAA aren't. Infrastructure is an investment in lowering costs for commerce and access to employment to keep costs down for all of society. Making it turn a profit will just cause other costs to go up as you force more people into their cars.
 
2012-12-31 02:37:43 PM

redmid17: Wow, the CTA has had this available for at least 2-3 years now. Better late than never, I guess


Its easier to change system infrastructure when its smaller, less used, and shuts down every night.
 
2012-12-31 02:41:45 PM
Does it have $5 for each of you?

/old school
 
xcv
2012-12-31 03:10:28 PM
The mayor runs a campaign telling people to put away their smartphones in the subway due to skyrocketing crimes involving theft.
The MTA (run by the state) releases an app that can encourage use of smartphones in the subway.
 
2012-12-31 04:06:51 PM

pute kisses like a man: wow, i'm really surprised that this doesn't already exist in new york

/ i'm in new orleans i can get real time info on buses/streetcars
// sometimes... when it works...


They had to upgrade all of the signals and the 1/2/3 and 4/5/6 lines for this to work; it cost like $200 million.
 
2012-12-31 04:07:45 PM

mikemoto: Muggings aren't so much a problem as being pushed off platform is, particularly i9f you are an Asian male.


Still have far and away the lowest murder rate of any major city.

NYC is the safest big city.
 
2012-12-31 04:12:50 PM
Or the MTA can do like they do in some European cities, and put up electronic sign which tell you when the next two trains are arriving.
 
2012-12-31 04:18:29 PM

poot_rootbeer: Only covers about 1/4 of the subway lines, and none of the ones I use regularly.


The quality of the infrastructure of the number lines is much different than the lettered -- it goes back to how the system was built by three independent companies.
 
2012-12-31 04:19:23 PM

skinink: Or the MTA can do like they do in some European cities, and put up electronic sign which tell you when the next two trains are arriving.


You mean like these?

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-12-31 04:19:28 PM

skinink: Or the MTA can do like they do in some European cities, and put up electronic sign which tell you when the next two trains are arriving.


They already do that on the numbered lines, shuttle, and L.
 
2012-12-31 04:25:25 PM

friedo: skinink: Or the MTA can do like they do in some European cities, and put up electronic sign which tell you when the next two trains are arriving.

You mean like these?

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x423]


I'm not NYC familiar, but I'm assuming those signs aren't up on the street level. It would be nice to know if you have a chance to make a train if you hurry or if should just relax on your way down.
 
2012-12-31 04:35:43 PM

12349876: friedo: skinink: Or the MTA can do like they do in some European cities, and put up electronic sign which tell you when the next two trains are arriving.

You mean like these?

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x423]

I'm not NYC familiar, but I'm assuming those signs aren't up on the street level. It would be nice to know if you have a chance to make a train if you hurry or if should just relax on your way down.


They have been adding electronic signs above ground that tell you if service is good or delayed. I have no clue why the countdown clocks have not been added -- maybe they're not hardwired into the system.

The MTA does a pretty damn good job, so it's probably just a money issue.
 
2012-12-31 04:54:38 PM
SF Bay Area has had these for a while now. And it's a good thing.

They don't make the apps, either -- they just provide the data info for other developers to do what they do best. Win!
 
2012-12-31 05:16:36 PM

StopLurkListen: SF Bay Area has had these for a while now. And it's a good thing.

They don't make the apps, either -- they just provide the unreliable data info for other developers to do what they do best. Win!


FTFY

/hates Muni
//longs for the Paris Metro or London Underground
 
2012-12-31 07:11:19 PM

lohphat: StopLurkListen: SF Bay Area has had these for a while now. And it's a good thing.

They don't make the apps, either -- they just provide the unreliable data info for other developers to do what they do best. Win!

FTFY

/hates Muni
//longs for the Paris Metro or London Underground


The great thing about the Paris Métro is the way they run the trains so close together during rush hours. I take the N°2 train to work in the mornings, where the wait between trains is 2.5 minutes or so. On the N°1 train, it's somewhere around 75 seconds or so between trains, now that they've got the automated driverless cars running. When you come down the stairs on one end of the platform as the previous train is pulling out, and make it down to the other end of the platform as the next train is pulling in, wait times become somewhat irrelevant.

/no cure for clueless tourists, though
 
2012-12-31 07:52:12 PM

StopLurkListen: SF Bay Area has had these for a while now. And it's a good thing.


More importantly, we have this control center snapshot so we can check if Muni Metro is completely farked before getting on.
 
2012-12-31 08:59:52 PM

thornhill: pute kisses like a man: wow, i'm really surprised that this doesn't already exist in new york

/ i'm in new orleans i can get real time info on buses/streetcars
// sometimes... when it works...

They had to upgrade all of the signals and the 1/2/3 and 4/5/6 lines for this to work; it cost like $200 million.


you can get a phone signal on the subway now?
 
2012-12-31 09:01:09 PM
NYC doesn't really have a crime problem for a city its size.

I recently moved to Westchester, but I lived 13 years in the city, took the subway nearly every day, and was never mugged.
 
2012-12-31 09:35:06 PM
Portland's had this for their entire fleet of buses, trains and streetcars for a while now. The new thing we're trying is buying tickets on your cell phone, and just showing the screen to the driver as you board. I can't wait.
 
2012-12-31 09:58:17 PM

Robo Beat: lohphat: StopLurkListen: SF Bay Area has had these for a while now. And it's a good thing.

They don't make the apps, either -- they just provide the unreliable data info for other developers to do what they do best. Win!

FTFY

/hates Muni
//longs for the Paris Metro or London Underground

The great thing about the Paris Métro is the way they run the trains so close together during rush hours. I take the N°2 train to work in the mornings, where the wait between trains is 2.5 minutes or so. On the N°1 train, it's somewhere around 75 seconds or so between trains, now that they've got the automated driverless cars running. When you come down the stairs on one end of the platform as the previous train is pulling out, and make it down to the other end of the platform as the next train is pulling in, wait times become somewhat irrelevant.

/no cure for clueless tourists, though


I lived in Paris 96-98 and left just as the new cars were coming online on N°1 (the ones that are open all the way from end to end more than doubling capacity). I was last there for a visit in May and got to ride a driverless train from my old stomping ground in the Marias to La Defence where I worked (in the CNIT building).

I'd do anything to move back to Europe with modern infrastructure and healthcare. The US is stuck in a TeaHaddi moranic race to the bottom.

Hell yes, I'd gladly pay more taxes to live in a modern country where trains and trams are modern and can run at 300kph.
 
2013-01-01 12:53:06 AM

thornhill: The MTA does a pretty damn good job.

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/ raising fares again to $2.50?? fark you MTA. fark you.
 
2013-01-01 04:05:11 AM

xcv: The mayor runs a campaign telling people to put away their smartphones in the subway due to skyrocketing crimes involving theft.
The MTA (run by the state) releases an app that can encourage use of smartphones in the subway.


How about if the mayor stops trying to modify the behavior of the citizenry and just runs the city government?
 
2013-01-01 07:51:15 AM

thornhill: Still have far and away the lowest murder rate of any major city.

NYC is the safest big city.


According to wikipedia, San Diego and San Antonio have NYC beat (if you define "major city" as one having a population greater than 1m, which means Boston and Baltimore aren't major cities).
 
2013-01-01 11:01:22 AM

jack21221: thornhill: Still have far and away the lowest murder rate of any major city.

NYC is the safest big city.

According to wikipedia, San Diego and San Antonio have NYC beat (if you define "major city" as one having a population greater than 1m, which means Boston and Baltimore aren't major cities).


That's old data. It has NYC's rate at 6.4 in 2010 where there were 614 homicides. This year there were only 414, so there were only 3.8 homicides per 100,000 residents.

I cannot find the number of murders San Diego had in 2012, but apparently 2010 was a record low year, and the number shot up in 2011.

Ditto with San Antonio, and they also had an increase in 2011.
 
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