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(Reuters)   The pro-marijuana campaign got so high in 2012 with victories in Washington state and Colorado, it's now looking to widen its scope for 2013   (reuters.com) divider line 20
    More: Spiffy, Colorado, Drug Policy Alliance, Marijuana Policy Project, marijuana campaign, marijuana dispensary, law reform, Board of Equalization, Ethan Nadelmann  
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2012-12-31 11:10:57 AM
4 votes:
If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.
2012-12-31 01:08:28 PM
2 votes:

david_gaithersburg: BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

None of you will ever know the pain of getting a call at three in the morning and hearing a doctor say they can't find a pulse after your son smokes just ONE hit or a Marijuana joint! None of you will ever know the anguish of having to find a place to put his cremains in a tasteful display! (Which apparently cannot be posted anymore under threat of banhammer. Pity.)

You potheads should watch the totally factual documentary REEFER MADNESS and take a DARE program. It'll really open your eyes!

/snicker.

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My state, MD, didn't get medical MJ until we finally voted in a Republican gov., and the current Dem gov is doing everything he can to stoSp medical MJ. Same goes for CA. So yah, its all about those evil Republicans.

/Derp
//Derp
///Derp


It's whoever is most in the pocket of the private prison industry and/or police unions, affiliation doesn't matter.
2012-12-31 01:05:39 PM
2 votes:
One of those is the California Police Chiefs Association.
"I have yet to hear a legalization proponent talk about how society will be enhanced, how the real social problems facing our country will be improved by legalizing yet another substance that compromises people's five senses," said John Lovell, government relations manager for the group.


And how exactly has the War on Drugstm"enhanced" society? Ohh that's right, it hasn't.

Shut up John
2012-12-31 02:44:48 PM
1 votes:

gja: Ummm, NEVER said that big pharma was behind it Brony. Don't go putting words in that aren't there bud.
Please point that out (it isnt there). I merely said "they will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all".


Theory of Crank Magnetism. Usually when someone holds Anti-EBM/Science Based Medicine theories, like Big Pharma is going to do X over Y because Z being legalized will "hurt their profits", it's not a stretch to attribute other crackpot beliefs to them.

Again. How will Big Pharma be howling mad over the legalization of a substance which shows great promise for research in multiple profitable avenues, including cancer treatments and psychiatric drugs - which are bankbusting money-makers for them?

gja: And they will feel an initial hit on sales. I am sure there lots of folks who can sidestep some of their pain meds by augnmenting with/substituting pot.
I know that medical MJ is mostly for a select target of conditions, but there are MANY who suffer with those conditions.
And the pharma companies solutions to those have proven to have a wide range of often terribly serious side effects
.

Considering the only pain control medicine replaced by pot will be those used for neurogenic pain, like gabapentin, it won't hurt their bottom line much at all. Cannabnoid substances do shiat for nocioceptive or somatic pain, and have only shown potential as adjuncts to opiates in these patients.

gja: Their profits will not be immediate or easy.
They may also have issues marketing cannabanoid based drug as there are those in the religious end of the spectrum whose minds will simply snap shut the second they hear "cannabis/cannabanoid" because the only understand the soundbites given to them of via their narrow-minded teachers/preachers.
You know there are people like that, don't deny it. In some markets segments it will be an uphill battle.


No profit on pharmaceuticals is "immediate or easy", especially when you realize that pharma companies lose tens of billions of dollars each year in research that either doesn't pan out, or isn't as promising as once thought. And that's not counting drugs which fail to obtain FDA approval, or which are taken off the market because they are being used improperly or marketed to the wrong population group (Vioxx). Synthetic Cannabanoids are already used today - Marinol - and the overwhelming number of Americans generally support legalization for medicinal use - it's where people want to get high is that it becomes an issue in those market segments you mention.
2012-12-31 02:04:51 PM
1 votes:
You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

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2012-12-31 01:53:08 PM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: When you people come onto a MJ thread with your blind hate, bigotry, and other derp you expect a worded response? Fark off. Is that enough words for you?


Seeing who that's coming from on FARK makes me laugh. Remind me again, who is it that comes into any thread questioning the institution of Christianity and accuses anyone he can of being hate-mongering bigots?
2012-12-31 01:34:46 PM
1 votes:

gja: They will harp the living crap out of the "smoking anything is cancer ZOMG"


Most medical marijuana clinics also sell products in the form of edibles.  A few even offer capsules.  And supposedly vaporizers can release the oils without reaching the ignition point of the plant fibers, preventing inhalation of most toxic chemicals released from smoking.
2012-12-31 01:26:20 PM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: Crotchrocket Slim: At least as a national party the Democrats have been pretty mum on the issue and aren't regurgitating 50 yeas of disproven propaganda regarding marijuana.

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(Sarcasm alert) All of those people in CA that have had their businesses destroyed by the feds in the past three years will be happy to hear this news.


... you're not talking about the actions of elected officials anymore, but of autonomous law enforcement agents, and in this political climate it's not like less strict director could be appointed to the DEA by the President. You're not even talking about what was being discussed when you hopped onto this tangent any more.

Face it you're nothing more than a BSABSVR poster with nothing to add to this conversation.
2012-12-31 01:18:29 PM
1 votes:
Tomato plant. Pot plant. Tomato plant. Pot plant...

/screw 'em. I don't need permission
2012-12-31 01:15:40 PM
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: At least as a national party the Democrats have been pretty mum on the issue and aren't regurgitating 50 yeas of disproven propaganda regarding marijuana.


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(Sarcasm alert) All of those people in CA that have had their businesses destroyed by the feds in the past three years will be happy to hear this news.
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 01:15:38 PM
1 votes:
I predict the big pharma companies will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all as they watch the sale of their products take a real hit (pun intended).
They will harp the living crap out of the "smoking anything is cancer ZOMG", to which many will "i'll risk that against the litany of 'side-effects' your craps lists".
It will be a good day indeed. I will start a grow business that meets and exceeds all applicable laws the minute the laws are printed and in effect.
2012-12-31 01:13:21 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

None of you will ever know the pain of getting a call at three in the morning and hearing a doctor say they can't find a pulse after your son smokes just ONE hit or a Marijuana joint! None of you will ever know the anguish of having to find a place to put his cremains in a tasteful display! (Which apparently cannot be posted anymore under threat of banhammer. Pity.)

You potheads should watch the totally factual documentary REEFER MADNESS and take a DARE program. It'll really open your eyes!

/snicker.


Not to mention the dirty marijuana needles littering the playground.
2012-12-31 01:12:41 PM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

None of you will ever know the pain of getting a call at three in the morning and hearing a doctor say they can't find a pulse after your son smokes just ONE hit or a Marijuana joint! None of you will ever know the anguish of having to find a place to put his cremains in a tasteful display! (Which apparently cannot be posted anymore under threat of banhammer. Pity.)

You potheads should watch the totally factual documentary REEFER MADNESS and take a DARE program. It'll really open your eyes!

/snicker.

.
My state, MD, didn't get medical MJ until we finally voted in a Republican gov., and the current Dem gov is doing everything he can to stoSp medical MJ. Same goes for CA. So yah, its all about those evil Republicans.

/Derp
//Derp
///Derp


Because governors of both parties never go against what their parties want on a national level for what they perceive to be personal gains at the local level.

At least as a national party the Democrats have been pretty mum on the issue and aren't regurgitating 50 yeas of disproven propaganda regarding marijuana.
2012-12-31 01:12:16 PM
1 votes:

basemetal: If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.


And if enough states cant help themselves from taking a look at it, I'm hopeful that the fed will then have to take a look at its own classification of pot...

/hopeful, not naive. I know they probably won't.
//time will tell...
2012-12-31 01:08:37 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.


The irony is that even if PA legalized marijuana, joints would still be illegal damn near anywhere due to the smoking ban enacted by the democrats.
2012-12-31 01:01:30 PM
1 votes:
It's always amazed me that a constitutional amendment was required to ban booze, yet isn't required to ban marijuana.
2012-12-31 01:01:18 PM
1 votes:

MFAWG: I did not see one ad opposing 502.


You didn't go to Hempfest this last year then.  The SO and I made sure to visit the pro- and con-booths for 502 this year, and found that when we visited the pro-booth or made it look like we were pro-, we got harassed by the con-people.  As in, giant guy standing two inches away from me yelling that wanting to legalize pot is "wrong" and basically admitting that he likes to drive around stoned.  The nice person at the pro-booth offered to give the creepy guy the rundown on the science behind the whole DUI part of it, but Mr. Con simply wouldn't have any.

/tl;dr people fighting against it couldn't even articulate why it was bad
2012-12-31 12:58:18 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: the totally factual documentary REEFER MADNESS


I like to get blazed and watch the musical version.
2012-12-31 11:46:09 AM
1 votes:
You'd think we'd have learned by now that prohibition is a good idea and that it always works.
2012-12-31 11:35:50 AM
1 votes:

basemetal: If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.


Pretty much this.
 
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