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(Reuters)   The pro-marijuana campaign got so high in 2012 with victories in Washington state and Colorado, it's now looking to widen its scope for 2013   (reuters.com) divider line 104
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2012-12-31 01:35:11 PM

Amos Quito: [ecogirlcosmoboy.files.wordpress.com image 400x295]

The Feds will put a stop to these shenanigans.


And likely as effectively as they have managed to stem the flow of this horrible scourge throughout the country.

Personally, I don't care if it's legalized or not. It's been decriminalized enough to the point where I don't worry about it. Nothing kills a buzz more than worrying about if you're going to get busted or not.

Enjoy the buzz, no worries about the fuzz.
 
2012-12-31 01:36:42 PM

david_gaithersburg: Bigdogdaddy: I have a serious question for some of the people in the states where pot is legal. If the company you work for drug tests you and you come back positive, can they fire you since it's still illegal under federal law? I have never gotten an answer or is this something that will probably be fought in the courts in the future. And the companies that are in those states that have federal contracts? Can the feds hold money from them for not testing?

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Yes. Case law has set the precedent that you can no longer be fired for smoking cigarettes since cigs are legal, MJ is still a federal crime.


But, it was stated in Wa, if you company has a "drug free work place" policy you can be terminated.
Also if there is a federal contract, the company could loose it.
 
2012-12-31 01:37:38 PM

BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg: Crotchrocket Slim: david_gaithersburg: Crotchrocket Slim: At least as a national party the Democrats have been pretty mum on the issue and aren't regurgitating 50 yeas of disproven propaganda regarding marijuana.

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(Sarcasm alert) All of those people in CA that have had their businesses destroyed by the feds in the past three years will be happy to hear this news.

... you're not talking about the actions of elected officials anymore, but of autonomous law enforcement agents, and in this political climate it's not like less strict director could be appointed to the DEA by the President. You're not even talking about what was being discussed when you hopped onto this tangent any more.

Face it you're nothing more than a BSABSVR poster with nothing to add to this conversation.

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YEAH. YOU ALL ARE THE REAL RACISTS HERE!!!!


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2012-12-31 01:39:13 PM
We won't get Medical Marijuana here in MN regardless of public support because our chicken shiat Democrat Governor won't sign it unless Law Enforcement backs it, and obviously they won't. And of course, if we elect a Republican, they won't sign it because regulating people's bodies is OK, just not Corporations.
 
2012-12-31 01:40:44 PM
The police chief in that article suggested that more people would smoke marijuana( especially the younger generation).That is some extremely convoluted thinking.More or less on level of a person becoming an alcoholic after walking into a bar or liquor store.

What planet does this cop come from?I remember in high school it was easier to get marijuana than alcohol.The idea that people under 18/21 do not come in contact with marijuana is ridiculous And implying that the average american has zero will power is a bit insulting.
 
2012-12-31 01:42:14 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: We won't get Medical Marijuana here in MN regardless of public support because our chicken shiat Democrat Governor won't sign it unless Law Enforcement backs it, and obviously they won't. And of course, if we elect a Republican, they won't sign it because regulating people's bodies is OK, just not Corporations.


media.theiapolis.com
 
2012-12-31 01:45:41 PM
It's funny when people start posing no text/image only responses to people, they never have anything to display in those images. Arnie, who is politically disgraced now btw, is somehow meant to be typical of Republican governors or something? Really? derp derpa derpa doo
 
2012-12-31 01:46:13 PM

baronvonzipper: Tomato plant. Pot plant. Tomato plant. Pot plant...

/screw 'em. I don't need permission


Heh, roger that.
 
2012-12-31 01:47:23 PM

TwowheelinTim: Amos Quito: [ecogirlcosmoboy.files.wordpress.com image 400x295]

The Feds will put a stop to these shenanigans.

And likely as effectively as they have managed to stem the flow of this horrible scourge throughout the country.



The problem with this issues is that it is effectively an in-your-face a challenge to FEDERAL POWER by the states/people,and if this is allowed to stand, it opens the door to the peasants getting uppity and thinking they're "free" and stuff.

/Can't have that
 
2012-12-31 01:48:10 PM
Pot kills.
 
2012-12-31 01:48:12 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: It's funny when people start posing no text/image only responses to people, they never have anything to display in those images. Arnie, who is politically disgraced now btw, is somehow meant to be typical of Republican governors or something? Really? derp derpa derpa doo


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When you people come onto a MJ thread with your blind hate, bigotry, and other derp you expect a worded response? Fark off. Is that enough words for you?
 
2012-12-31 01:48:59 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: MFAWG: I did not see one ad opposing 502.

You didn't go to Hempfest this last year then.  The SO and I made sure to visit the pro- and con-booths for 502 this year, and found that when we visited the pro-booth or made it look like we were pro-, we got harassed by the con-people.  As in, giant guy standing two inches away from me yelling that wanting to legalize pot is "wrong" and basically admitting that he likes to drive around stoned.  The nice person at the pro-booth offered to give the creepy guy the rundown on the science behind the whole DUI part of it, but Mr. Con simply wouldn't have any.

/tl;dr people fighting against it couldn't even articulate why it was bad


Did you see one television ad pushing the 'con' side? I sure didn't, but the 'pro' ads were a staple of local news broadcasts all summer and fall.
 
2012-12-31 01:51:31 PM

Dinjiin: The My Little Pony Killer: You didn't go to Hempfest this last year then.

I knew a couple of folks who had booths at Hempfest who were pro-legalization, but were against the wording in the initiative.  They weren't very vocal about it, though.  In the end, they held their noses and voted for it since a defeat would have been seen as a win for prohibitionists.


The loose wording in California's failed prop 19 was a big part of why many pro-pot people voted against it.
 
2012-12-31 01:53:08 PM

david_gaithersburg: When you people come onto a MJ thread with your blind hate, bigotry, and other derp you expect a worded response? Fark off. Is that enough words for you?


Seeing who that's coming from on FARK makes me laugh. Remind me again, who is it that comes into any thread questioning the institution of Christianity and accuses anyone he can of being hate-mongering bigots?
 
2012-12-31 01:54:45 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: It would have been cool to get their perspective as well, instead of the black-and-white we walked away from the whole thing with.


One of the complaints was the low threshold for being considered DWI (5 ng/mL of Δ9-THC).  Supposedly people who have smoked for some time build up a tolerance, so it requires a higher level of intoxication before the effects kick in.  So a long time user could have a higher score on a blood draw, but would still be able to otherwise pass a sobriety test while a new user might fail the sobriety tests but would just pass on the blood draw.

I believe another complaint was about greater restrictions for people who grew at home for medical, especially regarding the use of delegates.  It would supposedly force a number of people to abandon home growing.  That had an impact for people outside of the Seattle area, especially those folks out on the peninsula or east of the mountains, who couldn't fall back on a local dispensary.
 
2012-12-31 01:54:49 PM

david_gaithersburg: Crotchrocket Slim: It's funny when people start posing no text/image only responses to people, they never have anything to display in those images. Arnie, who is politically disgraced now btw, is somehow meant to be typical of Republican governors or something? Really? derp derpa derpa doo

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When you people come onto a MJ thread with your blind hate, bigotry, and other derp you expect a worded response? Fark off. Is that enough words for you?


Telling people to fark off when they've pretty much detailed your BS is a pretty standard response, I'll admit. One far less tiresome than the "gay.gif instead of textual content" posts, for sure.

Notice you've never expressed just where I'm wrong here after I pretty much detail where you're a moron. I mean, granted, there is a lack of individual politicians who do not suck WRT to marijuana law reform, but it's pretty unrealistic to say both parties are equally to blame when it is only one working to keep marijuana illegal as part of its platform. Like I said as a party the DNC etc. have no policy on this, they leave it up to the individual party members to have their own platform on this.
 
2012-12-31 01:55:35 PM

Bigdogdaddy: I have a serious question for some of the people in the states where pot is legal. If the company you work for drug tests you and you come back positive, can they fire you since it's still illegal under federal law? I have never gotten an answer or is this something that will probably be fought in the courts in the future. And the companies that are in those states that have federal contracts? Can the feds hold money from them for not testing?


In CA where MMJ is "legal", they can fire one for a positive urinalysis. I've seen it done.

As to your other questions, I don't know.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 01:56:16 PM

BronyMedic: david_gaithersburg:  Doesn't understand the art of sarcasm.

Oh, bless your little heart. I guess those big, bad dumbocrats removed your humerus bone, didn't they?

gja: I predict the big pharma companies will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all as they watch the sale of their products take a real hit (pun intended).
They will harp the living crap out of the "smoking anything is cancer ZOMG", to which many will "i'll risk that against the litany of 'side-effects' your craps lists".
It will be a good day indeed. I will start a grow business that meets and exceeds all applicable laws the minute the laws are printed and in effect.

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Big Pharma won't have anything to lose here. The potential money to be made on exploring new avenues of use for Cannabanoids, and new synthetics that are far more effective than "natural" cannabanoids contained in plants now that research can take place in the US without having to have a literal act of congress to do so (See the University of Mississippi's Pot Project) will far outweigh the potential loss.

In addition, I think you have a sorely misinformed opinion on just how broad the uses for Medicinal Marijuana are. In reality, legalized marijuana will replace a small number of medications for a select few conditions, and will be used as an adjunctive therapy on many others. It's not a magical pancea for things.

So the idea that "Big Pharma" is conspiring to keep pot illegal is a laughable farce.


Ummm, NEVER said that big pharma was behind it Brony. Don't go putting words in that aren't there bud.
Please point that out (it isnt there). I merely said "they will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all".
And they will, because they are a money driven machine that, right or wrong, are most concerned with their bottom line, above all else.

And they will feel an initial hit on sales. I am sure there lots of folks who can sidestep some of their pain meds by augnmenting with/substituting pot.
I know that medical MJ is mostly for a select target of conditions, but there are MANY who suffer with those conditions.
And the pharma companies solutions to those have proven to have a wide range of often terribly serious side effects.

Their profits will not be immediate or easy.
They may also have issues marketing cannabanoid based drug as there are those in the religious end of the spectrum whose minds will simply snap shut the second they hear "cannabis/cannabanoid" because the only understand the soundbites given to them of via their narrow-minded teachers/preachers.
You know there are people like that, don't deny it. In some markets segments it will be an uphill battle.

So, for not reading, and misquoting me, this derps for YOU:
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gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 01:58:55 PM

mekkab: This text is now purple: The irony is that even if PA legalized marijuana, joints would still be illegal damn near anywhere due to the smoking ban enacted by the democrats.

gja: They will harp the living crap out of the "smoking anything is cancer ZOMG", to which many will "i'll risk that against the litany of 'side-effects' your craps lists".


Sounds like y'all never heard of vaporizing.

/google mflb... I'd say "its the joint" but its actually the antithesis of it...


Yes, I certainly have. Most folks have NOT though. And near-combustion-temperature extraction has been used for many things, not just MJ.
Lots of folks will initially balk at the price, but they will get over it.
 
2012-12-31 02:02:31 PM

bugmn99: This text is now purple: BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

The irony is that even if PA legalized marijuana, joints would still be illegal damn near anywhere due to the smoking ban enacted by the democrats.

Betty Crocker provides other options.


The FDA has a real issue with ambiguity between food stuffs and medicines.
 
2012-12-31 02:04:51 PM
You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

dropthedigibomb.com
 
2012-12-31 02:05:52 PM

Amos Quito: TwowheelinTim: Amos Quito: [ecogirlcosmoboy.files.wordpress.com image 400x295]

The Feds will put a stop to these shenanigans.

And likely as effectively as they have managed to stem the flow of this horrible scourge throughout the country.


The problem with this issues is that it is effectively an in-your-face a challenge to FEDERAL POWER by the states/people,and if this is allowed to stand, it opens the door to the peasants getting uppity and thinking they're "free" and stuff.

/Can't have that


I considered that; you're right. I may never see prohibition lifted on marijuana, but until they come for my nugs and throw me in the crapper, I'm fine with status quo.

fixin to take a rip or two after breakfast in a few minutes.

Gotta finish the year with a decent buzz without the hangover.
 
2012-12-31 02:09:38 PM
Spliffy tag?
 
2012-12-31 02:11:40 PM

clane: You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

[dropthedigibomb.com image 542x399]


Someone's never looked into the actual effects of smoking cannabis vs tobacco apparently
 
2012-12-31 02:14:08 PM
I think the bigger development also includes semi-legalized marijuana.

upload.wikimedia.org

State with legal medical cannabis
State with decriminalized cannabis possession laws
State with both medical and decriminalization laws
State with legalized cannabis
 
2012-12-31 02:17:22 PM

MFAWG: Did you see one television ad pushing the 'con' side?


Not a single one.

/gets television shows from Netflix
//don't want to deal with ads
 
2012-12-31 02:18:37 PM

Dinjiin: One of the complaints was the low threshold for being considered DWI (5 ng/mL of Δ9-THC).  Supposedly people who have smoked for some time build up a tolerance, so it requires a higher level of intoxication before the effects kick in.  So a long time user could have a higher score on a blood draw, but would still be able to otherwise pass a sobriety test while a new user might fail the sobriety tests but would just pass on the blood draw.


All of the studies were done on chronic users though, and it showed that they remained below that threshold while sober, and only came close to it directly after smoking, when they get a spike of THC in their blood.
 
2012-12-31 02:20:03 PM

basemetal: If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.


What? You mean money will make our "leaders" drop their War on Freedom (aka Controlled Substances Act) and trade their BS morality and sell out their principles and legalize?

I'm shocked that the men/women in our hallowed halls of legislature would exchange moral principles just to put some more money via taxations in their working budgets for their corporate masters bidding.
 
2012-12-31 02:21:44 PM

Hugemeister: basemetal: If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.

What? You mean money will make our "leaders" drop their War on Freedom (aka Controlled Substances Act) and trade their BS morality and sell out their principles and legalize?

I'm shocked that the men/women in our hallowed halls of legislature would exchange moral principles just to put some more money via taxations in their working budgets for their corporate masters bidding.


... or at least the one time it would be a good time for them to do this, they don't.
 
2012-12-31 02:22:38 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: MFAWG: Did you see one television ad pushing the 'con' side?

Not a single one.

/gets television shows from Netflix
//don't want to deal with ads


That's cute and all, but not really representative of anything actually being discussed.
 
2012-12-31 02:25:49 PM
I'm waiting for news of Monsanto investing in the pot market.

"Aren't using government approved Monsanto Frankenpot seeds? That's a lawsuit."

/try the new GMO menthol-laced kush
 
2012-12-31 02:26:33 PM
They need to legalize marriage between humans and plants.
 
2012-12-31 02:29:58 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: clane: You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

[dropthedigibomb.com image 542x399]
Crotchrocket Slim
Someone's never looked into the actual effects of smoking cannabis vs tobacco apparently


clane
lmao!! Crotchrocket Slim, what are you doing up so early??

www.adailyvitamin.com
 
2012-12-31 02:32:19 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: It's funny when people start posing no text/image only responses to people, they never have anything to display in those images.

 
2012-12-31 02:32:55 PM

MFAWG: The My Little Pony Killer: MFAWG: Did you see one television ad pushing the 'con' side?

Not a single one.

/gets television shows from Netflix
//don't want to deal with ads

That's cute and all, but not really representative of anything actually being discussed.


How dismissive of you.  I answered your question, please don't discount my voice because my answer was not what you wanted it to be.
 
2012-12-31 02:34:13 PM
The point of the matter is that the con side did a terrible job in getting their side of the debate out, as all I saw of the situation was them acting like emotional manchildren about parts of the bill that they were neglecting to do any research on.  It is not my fault that that is what they chose to present.
 
2012-12-31 02:42:33 PM

This text is now purple: BronyMedic: Good. I hope they do broaden it. And I hope the moralist, God-fearing Republicans who are heroes for the United States of America, and a MODEL for the world at large, defeat the measures and keep this devil's drug illegal, LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

The irony is that even if PA legalized marijuana, joints would still be illegal damn near anywhere due to the smoking ban enacted by the democrats.


How about in your own house? Is it illegal to smoke at home?
 
2012-12-31 02:42:37 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: All of the studies were done on chronic users though, and it showed that they remained below that threshold while sober, and only came close to it directly after smoking, when they get a spike of THC in their blood.


Some people were complaining that the 5ng studies were flawed (I don't know if their basis was sound or if they were just spewing FUD).  I recall that Colorado was considering a 10ng limit after a number of concerns were raised, and it went back and forth a number of times before they also settled on 5ng.  Some people in Washington picked up on that debate and appeared to run with it.

Could be worse.  Ohio and Nevada have a 2ng threshold for DWI.  Arizona has a zero tolerance threshold.
 
2012-12-31 02:44:48 PM

gja: Ummm, NEVER said that big pharma was behind it Brony. Don't go putting words in that aren't there bud.
Please point that out (it isnt there). I merely said "they will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all".


Theory of Crank Magnetism. Usually when someone holds Anti-EBM/Science Based Medicine theories, like Big Pharma is going to do X over Y because Z being legalized will "hurt their profits", it's not a stretch to attribute other crackpot beliefs to them.

Again. How will Big Pharma be howling mad over the legalization of a substance which shows great promise for research in multiple profitable avenues, including cancer treatments and psychiatric drugs - which are bankbusting money-makers for them?

gja: And they will feel an initial hit on sales. I am sure there lots of folks who can sidestep some of their pain meds by augnmenting with/substituting pot.
I know that medical MJ is mostly for a select target of conditions, but there are MANY who suffer with those conditions.
And the pharma companies solutions to those have proven to have a wide range of often terribly serious side effects
.

Considering the only pain control medicine replaced by pot will be those used for neurogenic pain, like gabapentin, it won't hurt their bottom line much at all. Cannabnoid substances do shiat for nocioceptive or somatic pain, and have only shown potential as adjuncts to opiates in these patients.

gja: Their profits will not be immediate or easy.
They may also have issues marketing cannabanoid based drug as there are those in the religious end of the spectrum whose minds will simply snap shut the second they hear "cannabis/cannabanoid" because the only understand the soundbites given to them of via their narrow-minded teachers/preachers.
You know there are people like that, don't deny it. In some markets segments it will be an uphill battle.


No profit on pharmaceuticals is "immediate or easy", especially when you realize that pharma companies lose tens of billions of dollars each year in research that either doesn't pan out, or isn't as promising as once thought. And that's not counting drugs which fail to obtain FDA approval, or which are taken off the market because they are being used improperly or marketed to the wrong population group (Vioxx). Synthetic Cannabanoids are already used today - Marinol - and the overwhelming number of Americans generally support legalization for medicinal use - it's where people want to get high is that it becomes an issue in those market segments you mention.
 
2012-12-31 02:54:06 PM

TwowheelinTim: Amos Quito: TwowheelinTim: Amos Quito: [ecogirlcosmoboy.files.wordpress.com image 400x295]

The Feds will put a stop to these shenanigans.

And likely as effectively as they have managed to stem the flow of this horrible scourge throughout the country.


The problem with this issues is that it is effectively an in-your-face a challenge to FEDERAL POWER by the states/people,and if this is allowed to stand, it opens the door to the peasants getting uppity and thinking they're "free" and stuff.

/Can't have that

I considered that; you're right. I may never see prohibition lifted on marijuana, but until they come for my nugs and throw me in the crapper, I'm fine with status quo.

fixin to take a rip or two after breakfast in a few minutes.

Gotta finish the year with a decent buzz without the hangover.



Happy new year!

Enjoy!
 
2012-12-31 03:02:39 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: MFAWG: The My Little Pony Killer: MFAWG: Did you see one television ad pushing the 'con' side?

Not a single one.

/gets television shows from Netflix
//don't want to deal with ads

That's cute and all, but not really representative of anything actually being discussed.

How dismissive of you.  I answered your question, please don't discount my voice because my answer was not what you wanted it to be.


I like how you get all smug and shiat, but I'm the asshole.

You didn't see any ads at all. We get it. You're AWESOME!
 
2012-12-31 03:03:39 PM

basemetal: If the tax revenue from legal marijuana is good enough, the other states won't be able to help themselves from taking a look at it.


Worked for gambling.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 03:06:38 PM

BronyMedic: gja: Ummm, NEVER said that big pharma was behind it Brony. Don't go putting words in that aren't there bud.
Please point that out (it isnt there). I merely said "they will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all".

Theory of Crank Magnetism. Usually when someone holds Anti-EBM/Science Based Medicine theories, like Big Pharma is going to do X over Y because Z being legalized will "hurt their profits", it's not a stretch to attribute other crackpot beliefs to them.

Again. How will Big Pharma be howling mad over the legalization of a substance which shows great promise for research in multiple profitable avenues, including cancer treatments and psychiatric drugs - which are bankbusting money-makers for them?
Please do not generalize, if I intend something I come right out and say it. Placing big pharma behind the hold-off on pot was not my intimation.

I do not subscribe to "big pharma is always evil" silliness.

gja: And they will feel an initial hit on sales. I am sure there lots of folks who can sidestep some of their pain meds by augnmenting with/substituting pot.
I know that medical MJ is mostly for a select target of conditions, but there are MANY who suffer with those conditions.
And the pharma companies solutions to those have proven to have a wide range of often terribly serious side effects.

Considering the only pain control medicine replaced by pot will be those used for neurogenic pain, like gabapentin, it won't hurt their bottom line much at all. Cannabnoid substances do shiat for nocioceptive or somatic pain, and have only shown potential as adjuncts to opiates in these patients.

That is precisely what I am alluding to. I think you discount the dollar value of reduced need for those opioides.
Money is money, and times are tight all around.


gja: Their profits will not be immediate or easy.
They may also have issues marketing cannabanoid based drug as there are those in the religious end of the spectrum whose minds will simply snap shut the second they hear "cannabis/cannabanoid" because the only understand the soundbites given to them of via their narrow-minded teachers/preachers.
You know there are people like that, don't deny it. In some markets segments it will be an uphill battle.


No profit on pharmaceuticals is "immediate or easy", especially when you realize that pharma companies lose tens of billions of dollars each year in research that either doesn't pan out, or isn't as promising as once thought. And that's not counting drugs which fail to obtain FDA approval, or which are taken off the market because they are being used improperly or marketed to the wrong population group (Vioxx). Synthetic Cannabanoids are already used today - Marinol - and the overwhelming number of Americans generally support legalization for medicinal use - it's where people want to get high is that it becomes an issue in those market segments you mention.
Time will tell, but I think there is a perception problem rampant in this country that will be a further hurdle.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 03:12:18 PM

BronyMedic: gja: Ummm, NEVER said that big pharma was behind it Brony. Don't go putting words in that aren't there bud.
Please point that out (it isnt there). I merely said "they will be HOWLING monkey mad over it all".

Theory of Crank Magnetism. Usually when someone holds Anti-EBM/Science Based Medicine theories, like Big Pharma is going to do X over Y because Z being legalized will "hurt their profits", it's not a stretch to attribute other crackpot beliefs to them.

Again. How will Big Pharma be howling mad over the legalization of a substance which shows great promise for research in multiple profitable avenues, including cancer treatments and psychiatric drugs - which are bankbusting money-makers for them?

gja: And they will feel an initial hit on sales. I am sure there lots of folks who can sidestep some of their pain meds by augnmenting with/substituting pot.
I know that medical MJ is mostly for a select target of conditions, but there are MANY who suffer with those conditions.
And the pharma companies solutions to those have proven to have a wide range of often terribly serious side effects
.
Considering the only pain control medicine replaced by pot will be those used for neurogenic pain, like gabapentin, it won't hurt their bottom line much at all. Cannabnoid substances do shiat for nocioceptive or somatic pain, and have only shown potential as adjuncts to opiates in these patients.

Article with study directly supporting my assertion. There are many more. GIS, I am not going to flood links here.

 
2012-12-31 03:16:32 PM

Practical_Draconian: I'm waiting for news of Monsanto investing in the pot market.

"Aren't using government approved Monsanto Frankenpot seeds? That's a lawsuit."

/try the new GMO menthol-laced kush


That is the only thing that worries me about legalizing cannabis.

Phillip Morris will fark it up no doubt. They'll either cross a tobacco strain with cannabis somehow, or they'll just lace their cannabis with nicotine and prey on a new generation of nicotine dependent citizens.
 
2012-12-31 03:23:12 PM

Bigdogdaddy: I have a serious question for some of the people in the states where pot is legal. If the company you work for drug tests you and you come back positive, can they fire you since it's still illegal under federal law? I have never gotten an answer or is this something that will probably be fought in the courts in the future. And the companies that are in those states that have federal contracts? Can the feds hold money from them for not testing?


The company can still put in place whatever restrictions they want on hiring people.  In most right to work states, you can be fired for any reason (other than a very limited number of restricted reasons, such as race).  If the company still wants to fire people who use MJ, they can.  If they want to fire people for wearing those hideous day-glo Nike's, they can.  If they want to fire you because they don't like the cut of your jib, they can.
 
2012-12-31 03:27:59 PM

Bigdogdaddy: I have a serious question for some of the people in the states where pot is legal. If the company you work for drug tests you and you come back positive, can they fire you since it's still illegal under federal law? I have never gotten an answer or is this something that will probably be fought in the courts in the future. And the companies that are in those states that have federal contracts? Can the feds hold money from them for not testing?


Just did some googling on it.  Per Norml's site, what I said before was correct in most states, however Oregon has ruled that if you have a proper medical-MJ prescription, you can't be fired for testing positive.
 
2012-12-31 03:41:15 PM

david_gaithersburg:

clane:
You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

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Not a farking penny from me. If a poster makes zero contributions and only aggravation trolls, why are they allowed to keep posting? Cause you make money from clicks regarding them? make your money that way then. Tenpounds too. Assholes
 
2012-12-31 03:45:10 PM

Champion of the Sun: david_gaithersburg:

clane: You liberals are the first to cry like babies if anyone lights up a cigarette within 100 yards but smoking a joint is somehow ok and even encouraged... you guys are idiots!

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Not a farking penny from me. If a poster makes zero contributions and only aggravation trolls, why are they allowed to keep posting? Cause you make money from clicks regarding them? make your money that way then. Tenpounds too. Assholes


Not sure what you mean here as both those Farkers are liters, even if there isn't much love lost in this thread.

Also as a 'liter you do have full access to use and edit your own ignore list; tenpoundsoftardinafivepoundsackofcrap is on mine.
 
2012-12-31 04:05:03 PM
What is spiffy about more morons smoking marijuana?
 
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