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(The Age (Melbourne))   Hiker fined for only having potatoes and bread for food on his trek   (theage.com.au ) divider line
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2012-12-31 12:23:37 PM  

offmymeds: [www.sadanduseless.com image 660x495]

/oh ho ho ho
//is hot


What did one potato say to the other? Nothing! No family has 2 potatoes!
 
2012-12-31 12:40:12 PM  

hlehmann: Ask anyone that works in mountain rescue organization what they think of those rescue beacons.


Regardless of how people misuse them, they do work, right? Certainly we could do something to disincentive misuse, but even without that the beacons still do help rescue people with genuine need -- and save rescuers time and effort and risk in locating such people -- don't they?
 
2012-12-31 12:40:32 PM  
misread as: Hitler fined for only having potatoes and bread for food on his trek

What's the big deal? He's a vegetarian.
 
2012-12-31 12:48:06 PM  

notmtwain: Presumably he also had water, but they didn't mention it.  According to one site, a kilo of potatoes would be only 800 calories and a kilo of naan about 2500 calories-  so even if he had a kilo of each, he wouldn't have had enough to supply energy for intense hiking for three days.

// Old mother Hubbard's dog had to make do with naan.

// Even if he had had a locator beacon, the nanny boys would have given him a lecture.


Well, it sounded like that's what he had LEFT after three days, which isn't so bad. Also bear in mind that body fat is worth something like 1800-2000 calories per kilo. Eating "light" for a few days (for the amount of effort being expended) isn't necessarily a bad thing all by itself.

/Not that this means he wasn't reckless anyway...
//What, this far and still no "Naan-y state" puns?
 
2012-12-31 12:51:42 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www-tc.pbs.org image 600x250]
Would have given them fits.


Yeah, probably. For those who don't know, John Muir did all kinds of crazy stuff with little food. Climbed Mt. Ritter (with a 10 miles trek there and back) with just a crust of bread stuck in his belt. Hiked up Illilouette Canyon in the winter with nothing but his greatcoat, a pound of flour, a pound of bacon and a skillet. He was well known for enduring deprivation.
 
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2012-12-31 12:53:54 PM  
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naan naan naan naan naan
 
2012-12-31 01:15:29 PM  

wax_on: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www-tc.pbs.org image 600x250]
Would have given them fits.

Yeah, probably. For those who don't know, John Muir did all kinds of crazy stuff with little food. Climbed Mt. Ritter (with a 10 miles trek there and back) with just a crust of bread stuck in his belt. Hiked up Illilouette Canyon in the winter with nothing but his greatcoat, a pound of flour, a pound of bacon and a skillet. He was well known for enduring deprivation.


Now I have to batter up some bacon for the deep fryer. Thanks for killing me.
 
2012-12-31 01:37:08 PM  
The Only Sane Man In Florida: Australia yet again shows how naannyish its naanny government can be.

Fixed.
 
2012-12-31 02:01:42 PM  
I propose fining anyone who doesn't have ample rations next to themselves when they sit in a slatted chair.
 
2012-12-31 02:37:13 PM  
Should have brought 2 kilos of beef jerky.

They were just charging him for the rescue. If he had been fully geared it would have been harder to make a fine stick.

Sometimes the rescuers hate the rescued for being stupid and unprepared. I once heard a skiing rescuer go off on a rant against stupid people who ski wearing all cotton clothes.
 
2012-12-31 02:48:08 PM  
Trumpy, you can do magic things!
 
2012-12-31 02:48:32 PM  
Rare good ballast for an empty stomach.
 
2012-12-31 03:11:59 PM  
Excellent. I'd like to see this become standard policy. Although I think the fine should be high enough to cover the search and rescue expense.
 
2012-12-31 03:14:13 PM  

LOTN: japanese porn manufacturers.


It's a trap
 
2012-12-31 03:20:02 PM  

WeenerGord: Should have brought 2 kilos of beef jerky.

They were just charging him for the rescue. If he had been fully geared it would have been harder to make a fine stick.

Sometimes the rescuers hate the rescued for being stupid and unprepared. I once heard a skiing rescuer go off on a rant against stupid people who ski wearing all cotton clothes.


They actually SELL ski clothes made of cotton?
 
2012-12-31 03:24:16 PM  

Nogale: WeenerGord: Should have brought 2 kilos of beef jerky.

They were just charging him for the rescue. If he had been fully geared it would have been harder to make a fine stick.

Sometimes the rescuers hate the rescued for being stupid and unprepared. I once heard a skiing rescuer go off on a rant against stupid people who ski wearing all cotton clothes.

They actually SELL ski clothes made of cotton?


Who said they were ski clothes?
 
2012-12-31 03:26:28 PM  
I live near where this guy was rescued. We heard the helicopter. Every bloody weekend we hear a helicopter out searching and rescuing stupid tourists and out of towners. I'm glad he was fined.

Bread and potatoes, hardly any water, no GPS locator, he was totally unprepared for even 1 day in the bush!
 
2012-12-31 04:07:35 PM  
I used to go for several-day hikes with a gallon of water. And mescaline. Lots and lots of mescaline.


The glowing dogs always led me back home.
 
2012-12-31 05:26:46 PM  

mark12A: So you get fined for making the tax funded Rescue Services get up off their fat asses and do their job?

Why bother to have them? Why bother to fund them? Leave it to private rescue groups that are paid by the job.


If it's the SES, and it probably would be, then they're volunteers.
 
2012-12-31 05:29:03 PM  
Nanny state for holding people accountable for their dumb-ass actions comments coming from inhabitants of a fascist police state.

Re. article - I'm ok with this.
 
2012-12-31 08:06:59 PM  

ktybear: I live near where this guy was rescued. We heard the helicopter. Every bloody weekend we hear a helicopter out searching and rescuing stupid tourists and out of towners. I'm glad he was fined.

Bread and potatoes, hardly any water, no GPS locator, he was totally unprepared for even 1 day in the bush!


Yeah as a Kiwi I sympathise. Both tourists and locals trying to head out for a day on a mountain trail in shorts, t-shirts, jandals, and maybe a bottle of water. No wet weather gear, no provisions, no beacon, nothing. Idiots.

Always research the local conditions, always take provisions and wet weather gear even for a trek of only a couple of hours. Two hours from the closest phone is a really long way when you're lost and/or it's suddenly pouring with rain and near freezing. And take a beacon, or they will probably only find what remains of you after the animals are done.
 
2012-12-31 08:17:56 PM  
Pfft I go on treks with just 12 grandfather clocks and a hat
 
2012-12-31 08:25:47 PM  
If he had just watched TV none of this would have happened.

///then again, were the rescuers unprepared? Because if they weren't, how were they put at risk?
 
2012-12-31 10:54:08 PM  

siyuntz: Now that we're smack in the middle of climbers-getting-lost/stranded-on-Mt.-Hood season, I'll restate my position: People going on these dangerous treks or climbs who don't want to bother with a locator beacon should have to sign some sort of form to the effect that (A) they waive their right to be rescued, or (B) they agree to pay any and all costs associated with said rescue should they require it.


That's just farking stupid. I've seen situations where PLB's give a false sense of security so people do stupid shiat because they have them. Would it be nice? Sure. Should it be mandatory? No. Because as long as it's not above 20k feet, we don't farking leave people behind. Period.

Death zone.

DRINK!

/tanked
 
2013-01-01 12:41:22 PM  
"Getting the basics right with trekking is so easy - all people have to do is notify the police or other responsible person of their trip intention and carry a personal locator beacon,"


i would probably carry some lobster bacon too
 
2013-01-01 01:30:11 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: I used to go for several-day hikes with a gallon of water. And mescaline. Lots and lots of mescaline.


The glowing dogs always led me back home.


NEVER FOLLOW THE COYOTE! My roommate was warned, but the he followed the coyote. The other animals looked at him and said, "Hey man are you ok?" They coyote said, "Follow me, I know what you need." Eventually the coyote disappeared and my roommate saw a diner in the distance. Later, he went back to the 'res' and found that he had been dropping his gear all over the place for a mile in the desert.

/It was peyote though.
 
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