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2012-12-31 11:23:47 AM

This text is now purple: Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.


I've eaten pokeweed many times. It's extremely delicious.
/I have also eaten cattail heads. Even more delicious.
 
2012-12-31 11:24:50 AM
Got my fill of Kimchi when I was in Korea. It tastes like pickled ass.
No thanks.
 
2012-12-31 11:26:58 AM
Why not curry?
 
2012-12-31 11:29:41 AM
You've struck coleslaw!
 
2012-12-31 11:30:28 AM
I liked kimchi before it was cool
 
2012-12-31 11:31:49 AM
stupid too-big image...
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2012-12-31 11:38:42 AM

LlamaGirl: I am a cabbage whore.


I have this mental picture of you wearing cabbage leaves like the PETA chick in the lettuce bra.
 
2012-12-31 11:43:37 AM

Grandemadaca: Why go to a restaurant? Seems easy enough to make at home.

And yes, it does sound and look delicious! I'll definitely give it a go.


I'm not close enough to the Korean mart to pick up a pot of kimchi today, but I will grab some scallions to make a green onion pancake instead. I'm not familiar with Maangchi, but I'll give her version a try.
 
2012-12-31 11:45:14 AM
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2012-12-31 11:47:14 AM
Kimchi is fantastic, and ridiculously easy to make.  If you don't let it go for months of fermentation, it doesn't stink either.  "Fresh" Kimchi is more popular anyway, so for those who care about 'authenticity' don't need to worry.  The really funky stuff is more of a niche product.

/Korean wife
//Lunar New Year was food crazy, until her folks moved to Colorado
 
2012-12-31 11:56:36 AM

computerguyUT: Got my fill of Kimchi when I was in Korea. It tastes like pickled ass.
No thanks.


Same here. Kimchi is only good if you eat it in Korea. Otherwise, you're just an insufferable "food tourist".
 
2012-12-31 12:01:02 PM

wildcardjack: Why the kimchi hate? And why the brussels sprout love?


I was planning on having both of those with some roast pork tomorrow.
 
2012-12-31 12:07:26 PM
Korean Food IS Amazeballs!

I love me some kimchi.

//One of my favorite things about living in LA is food adventures in K-town.
 
2012-12-31 12:11:34 PM
The thing, I think, about people who don't like kimchi is that it's really a class of food rather than a specific food. If you've had awesome kimchi before, like I have, I think you'll probably go "Great!" But I've also seen bad kimchi once or twice, and agree that some kimchi is the definitely the Natural Light of the Korean fermented cabbage world.
 
2012-12-31 12:11:41 PM

Queensowntalia: This text is now purple: Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.

I've eaten pokeweed many times. It's extremely delicious.
/I have also eaten cattail heads. Even more delicious.


oh come on. don't like about pokeweed. that shiat is NASTY.

/never ate cattails. didn't know they were edible.
 
2012-12-31 12:12:02 PM
Kimchi is awesome, along with with their BBQ. I can't stand the rest of the food, though. Even after living in Korea for 8 years. It's not bad, but I wouldn't rank it in the top 20 countries for food. The Korean government is obsessed with making Korean food more popular but I think they're wasting money as it just can't be forced onto people. My wife is Korean but thank god she knows the food sucks and cooks mainly Vietnamese and Thai.

Vietnamese is by far the best Asian food I've had.

Damn...now I want to get back to Saigon.
 
2012-12-31 12:14:38 PM
Food trucks and hipster places have really ramped up with different Kimchi burgers. Kimchi, Spicy Mayo (or Sriracha), meat of choosing, toasted bread / buns. Every single one I have had was amazing and I didn't notice a smell.
 
2012-12-31 12:17:26 PM

Into the blue again: 1) Go to Korean restaurant
2) Get a kimchi pancake




/mmmmmmmmmm


Mmmmmm. Had one on Saturday.

Who are all these weirdos who hate kimchi?
 
2012-12-31 12:35:13 PM
Had a Korean roommate in college. Came home one day to him making kimchi. I thought the sewer line had burst. Puked right then and there. Awful awful shiat.

Kimchi: not even once

/csb
 
2012-12-31 12:35:23 PM
The people who say kimchi doesn't have a smell must be smokers who have destroyed their sense of smell. Denying that it has a very strong aroma is just denying reality.

/farking coworker eats it 3 times a week and it stinks up the office to high heaven and then has kimchi breath the rest of the day
//I actually do like it, but the smell is very strong.
 
2012-12-31 12:37:50 PM

frepnog: Queensowntalia: This text is now purple: Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.

I've eaten pokeweed many times. It's extremely delicious.
/I have also eaten cattail heads. Even more delicious.

oh come on. don't like about pokeweed. that shiat is NASTY.

/never ate cattails. didn't know they were edible.


I'm sure it depends how they're prepared. I've had them sliced up in a chicken salad-type dish with various other veggies and mushrooms. Delicious.

RE: cattails - harvest em in the spring when the heads are still green and sheathed in leaves. Boil em for a few minutes then eat them like corn on the cob (they're thin, but they have a reedy core) with salt and butter. So awesome.

My parents are wild foods hobbyists, so I've become fond of all sorts of weird stuff. :)
 
2012-12-31 12:38:31 PM
Subby has obviously never had kimchi, otherwise he'd be quite excited.
 
2012-12-31 12:43:12 PM
Everybody complaining that the one time they tried kimchi and it tasted bad need to find a different place to try it at.  Kimchi is something pretty much every Korean person makes, and every single one of them makes it differently.

/I like mine mixed with rice with chicken and a fried egg on top
//not Korean
 
2012-12-31 12:43:22 PM

dr.zaeus: It's all fun and games until you end up like I did, at Kunsan, AB with a flatulent roomate who drank nothing but Soju and ate his weight in that shiat every day.


'98, '99?
Sorry about that.
 
2012-12-31 12:50:23 PM
I've tried about ten versions of kimchi. I've never tasted the garbage juice that drains from the garbage truck when it's compressing trash, but I would liken kimchi to that.

The best part about kimchi is seeing people get insulted and angry when other people say they don't like it.
 
2012-12-31 01:00:27 PM

frepnog:
oh come on. don't like about pokeweed. that shiat is NASTY.


Never tried the greens like in the song Poke Salad Annie. Have enjoyed the stems sliced and fried like okra. Must be picked in early spring before it turns purple.
 
2012-12-31 01:02:36 PM

Shadowknight: wildcardjack: Why the kimchi hate? And why the brussels sprout love?

If you don't like the smell of brussel sprouts, you only really smell them up close. Kimchi goes everywhere, permeates even granite, and will linger for days. Especially if yu have the misfortune to hang around someone who eats it. The kimchi farts are enough to strip chrome off a bumper.


None of what you say is true.  And I lived in Korea.

Kimchi is delicious.  Or at least a lot of people feel that way.  If you don't like it, fine, but don't make up stupid lies about it.
 
2012-12-31 01:07:43 PM

rev. dave: How similar is kimchi to sauerkraut? I love pork chops cooked in sauerkraut.


They're not really all that much alike.  It's quite possible to love one and not care for the other at all.

I like the both, personally, but i don't see any great similarity.
 
2012-12-31 01:15:09 PM

ciberido: None of what you say is true.  And I lived in Korea.

Kimchi is delicious.  Or at least a lot of people feel that way.  If you don't like it, fine, but don't make up stupid lies about it.


I grew up with a friend who's parents were from Korea.  Granted, my only experience with the stuff is from their version of it, but it was enough.
 
2012-12-31 01:15:21 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Shadowknight: I made the mistake of walking into my Korean friend's house when his mom was unsealing a batch one day in high school. To this day, I don't think I've smelled anything worse, and I work with dead bodies and sick people leaking a variety of fluids.

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Thats soybean fermented, not kimchi which is cabbage fermented. Natto is japanese also. Not bad, but be ready for the strong stuff!

Love me some kimchi though!
 
2012-12-31 01:17:29 PM

picturescrazy: Also bell peppers are the worst thing scientists claim to be edible. I know my tastes are a little off from most people.


You know nothing about bad food. The absolute worst "edible" food is the raw banana slug. The next in line is the chitin. I've eaten slug before as part of survival training. Afterwards I was told that chitin isn't as bad but I refuse to eat that. There are far better things to eat in tidal pools. Like limpet. Yummy!
 
2012-12-31 01:19:05 PM

LooseLips: Kimchi fan here. It took several tries and a couple awkward glances around Korean restaurants for me, but I eventually realized kimchi is more of a condiment rather than a side dish. I understand if a few farkers might find ketchup or mustard delicious straight from the bottle, but we also know that these things exist in order to make the main meal even more delicious. Once I understood this about kimchi, I now cannot have a Korean dish without it.

/Bibimbap and kimchi is one of my ultimate comfort foods


I know what you mean.

The korean word for those little bowls of things they serve with meals, including kimchi, is "banchan."  They generally translate "banchan" as "side dishes" but I think that's a mistake.  They really are more like condiments.  Kimchi is really more like a condiment in that it's meant to be placed on top of or mixed into a dish like salt or butter, not really eaten on its own (though yes, of course occasionally some Koreans will do that).

I have an American friend who's never been to Asia but loves kimchi.  There are no Korean restaurants where he lives now, so every time he comes to town on a visit, one of the first things he'll say is, "Let's go to the Korean restaurant!."  He'll order kimchi fried rice and then, while I'm eating my bibimbap, he'll dump the little bowl of kimchi onto his kimchi friend rice and gobble it up.  I have to ask for a second bowl of kimchi if I want any for myself, and even then, he'll take half of THAT.

It's a bit embarrassing, really.  It would be like if you had a penpal in Asia who came to America for the very first time and when you went out to eat together, she ordered a hamburger, threw the meat patty away, and used the bun to make a ketchup sandwich.  Except the analogy doesn't quite work because most Asians have had hamburgers before.

/Oh, and he eats the kimchi with his fingers, too, but that's a separate issue.
 
2012-12-31 01:26:01 PM

Smeggy Smurf: picturescrazy: Also bell peppers are the worst thing scientists claim to be edible. I know my tastes are a little off from most people.

You know nothing about bad food. The absolute worst "edible" food is the raw banana slug. The next in line is the chitin. I've eaten slug before as part of survival training. Afterwards I was told that chitin isn't as bad but I refuse to eat that. There are far better things to eat in tidal pools. Like limpet. Yummy!


Balut.... nuf said.
 
2012-12-31 01:26:46 PM
I like kimchi...

but I hate NPR hipsters.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:07 PM

MaliFinn: The problem with saying you like or don't like kimchi is that there's no single recipe for the stuff.


There are many different kinds of kimchi, but usually when a person just says "kimchi," you can figure that they mean the variety made with red pepper and nappa cabbage.  Of course, even then, there are many variations and recipes.  Interesting historical fact: the red pepper used in kimchi ("gochu") came originally from the Americas.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:36 PM

Into the blue again: 1) Go to Korean restaurant
2) Get a kimchi pancake
[www.foodgps.com image 525x394]
/mmmmmmmmmm


super mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
and crazy easy to make at home too

good kimchi is great, bad kimchi is terrible
I really wish that the local non-asian stores would STOP CARRYING the CRAP that they call kimchi.
WTF?!!!
 
2012-12-31 01:36:28 PM

ciberido: I have to ask for a second bowl of kimchi if I want any for myself, and even then, he'll take half of THAT.


YO-GI-YO!!!
kimchi chu-sae-yo!
kam-sa-ham-ni-da

tada - all you need to know to get MORE kimchi
and the look on their face when some white guys does it is hilarious.
 
2012-12-31 01:38:11 PM

Guuberre: I love Korean food. I wish Korean restaurants would have some kind of guide to proper Korean table manners, though. I'm always concerned I look like a starving field hand when I eat in one of those places.


When I eat in Korean restaurants, waiters and managers come over to my table to explain what I'm doing wrong and teach me how to do it properly.  Without anybody asking.

So either you're doing much better than I do, or else there's something about me that screams "I'm a pathetic, stupid white person and I need help."

Also, if you look like a starving field hand when you eat, you probably fit right in.  Koreans aren't prissy the way Japanese are.

One of the great things about Koreans is that they're extremely helpful.  One of the not-great things about Koreans is  they tend to treat foreigners as if we were nine-year-olds.
 
2012-12-31 01:46:00 PM

This text is now purple: aagrajag:

Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.


Stinging nettles are very tasty, but they have to be wild-crafted, you'll never find fresh nettles in stores. Steamed, with some soy sauce & mayonnaise, they kept my hay-fever under control all this Spring.

/fiance wildcrafts herbs for fun and $
/also makes sauerkraut and kimshi at home, so tasty
 
2012-12-31 01:50:33 PM

This text is now purple: John Redcorn: I wonder what Koreans think of the U.S. when they land here? "My god everybody is fat and it smells like mayonnaise!"?

Sour milk. That's the usually description of westerners from asians, who come from a culture almost devoid of dairy.



Oh, god, not this stupid crap again.

That was probably true like 50 years ago (at least for cheese), but it's now poppycock.  Asians, especially Japanese and Koreans, LOVE cheese.  And ice cream and yogurt   You can go into any modern grocery store in Korea or Japan (and by "modern" I mean it has a refrigerator) and you will find ice cream, cheese, yogurt, and even butter for sale.  And I'm talking anywhere, not just places that cater to tourists.

Pizza Hutt and McDonalds are extremely popular throughout Asia, and guess what pizzas and cheese burgers have on them?  Hint: it's not sour milk.  And there's frequently a Baskin-Robbins nearby.

Yogurt dates back to 500 BCE in India and Iran.  Western Asian countries like Mongolia and Kazakhstan have been drinking fermented milk products since at least that long.

Now, granted, if you talk to an Asian over 40, they may describe cheese (or other daily products) as sour milk.  But it's time to retire this myth.
 
2012-12-31 01:52:16 PM
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2012-12-31 01:57:20 PM

Doink_Boink: I've tried about ten versions of kimchi. I've never tasted the garbage juice that drains from the garbage truck when it's compressing trash, but I would liken kimchi to that.

The best part about kimchi is seeing people get insulted and angry when other people say they don't like it.


Nobody on this thread is insulted and angry because someone said they didn't like kimchi.  We're getting insulted and angry because people are comparing kimchi to sewage.  If you don't like kimchi, fine, I have no problem with that.  If you call kimchi garbage, then yes, you can go fark yourself.

And you're also a liar, because you already knew all this before you pretended ignorance to compound your asshattery.  So have a cigarette and then go fark yourself a second time.
 
2012-12-31 02:00:21 PM

ciberido: Guuberre: I love Korean food. I wish Korean restaurants would have some kind of guide to proper Korean table manners, though. I'm always concerned I look like a starving field hand when I eat in one of those places.

When I eat in Korean restaurants, waiters and managers come over to my table to explain what I'm doing wrong and teach me how to do it properly.  Without anybody asking.

So either you're doing much better than I do, or else there's something about me that screams "I'm a pathetic, stupid white person and I need help."

Also, if you look like a starving field hand when you eat, you probably fit right in.  Koreans aren't prissy the way Japanese are.

One of the great things about Koreans is that they're extremely helpful.  One of the not-great things about Koreans is  they tend to treat foreigners as if we were nine-year-olds.


I'd liken it less to treating others like nine-year-olds, and more like "let's treat them like pets." Think about how you treat your dog - "awww, good dog! Honey, look at the cute thing the dog is doing! He thinks he's people! Awwww." That sort of mentality. There's no animosity or anything, just a touch of xenophobia (well earned considering what outsiders did to their country throughout history) and trust of other Koreans that can come off like a superiority complex.

Also, don't be nervous about chowing down food in front of Korean folks. You'll notice they do the same thing. And they don't chew with their mouths closed. The table manners can be a little offputting for Americans, but once you are used to it its no big deal.

/worked for Koreans for 10 years
//lunch hour sounded like feeding time at a cattle ranch
 
2012-12-31 02:04:01 PM

Into the blue again: Wizzbang: Into the blue again: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Shadowknight: To this day, I don't think I've smelled anything worse, and I work with dead bodies and sick people leaking a variety of fluids.

Stinky tofu. A good stinky tofu shop smells up at least a block radius, and the name says it all, really.

TTTTHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSSS

CSB:
I went to a hole i the wall restaurant in Shanghai. Smelled pretty bad, but my Chinese pals told me it was good. Charcoal pit in the middle of the dirty table for skewers of meats. Then out came the stinky tofu. OMFG, worst taste ever. I downed my beer and then like 10 'beef' sticks after to try to clear u the taste

Oh god, the stuff that's labeled stinky is gawdawful overfermented stuff. Smells like something died and was left in a hot car for 3 weeks. The "regular" stuff is just lightly fermented and is like Chinese blue cheese. Decent stuff if you have the taste for it, but the ultra fermented stuff is deadly.

See, I love blue cheese and Gorgonzola and the like. I am not sure I can give stinky tofu any more chances..... IMHO it was that bad.


Stinky tofu was one of the things that Andrew Zimmerman couldn't eat. I've watched that guy eat worms straight from trees. He nearly retched when he took a bite of genuine super-stinky tofu.

/never in a million years
 
2012-12-31 02:08:04 PM

Anastacya: Into the blue again: Wizzbang: Into the blue again: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Shadowknight: To this day, I don't think I've smelled anything worse, and I work with dead bodies and sick people leaking a variety of fluids.

Stinky tofu. A good stinky tofu shop smells up at least a block radius, and the name says it all, really.

TTTTHHHHIIIIIIISSSSSSS

CSB:
I went to a hole i the wall restaurant in Shanghai. Smelled pretty bad, but my Chinese pals told me it was good. Charcoal pit in the middle of the dirty table for skewers of meats. Then out came the stinky tofu. OMFG, worst taste ever. I downed my beer and then like 10 'beef' sticks after to try to clear u the taste

Oh god, the stuff that's labeled stinky is gawdawful overfermented stuff. Smells like something died and was left in a hot car for 3 weeks. The "regular" stuff is just lightly fermented and is like Chinese blue cheese. Decent stuff if you have the taste for it, but the ultra fermented stuff is deadly.

See, I love blue cheese and Gorgonzola and the like. I am not sure I can give stinky tofu any more chances..... IMHO it was that bad.

Stinky tofu was one of the things that Andrew Zimmerman couldn't eat. I've watched that guy eat worms straight from trees. He nearly retched when he took a bite of genuine super-stinky tofu.

/never in a million years


Honestly, I know it's probably foul stuff, but I still want to try it. I've found that most foods that are eaten by large groups of people are pretty yummy once you try them enough times for your brain to categorize them (that's why when you're a little kid you hate brussels sprouts - they just taste like bitter, but when you're an adult you are better able to pick up on the other subtle flavors besides the wall of bitter - similar examples are coffee and hoppy beer).
 
2012-12-31 02:09:20 PM

Queensowntalia: This text is now purple: Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.

I've eaten pokeweed many times. It's extremely delicious.


I can't get past the part where I have to blanch it *three times* to render it non-toxic, just to get something that tastes like spinach. Although poke grows like a weed in my yard, so does spinach.
 
2012-12-31 02:12:14 PM

EyeballKid: I hope it doesn't get too popular. My Asian grocery store makes their own and sells it at a rather reasonable price.


This. I buy it by the bucket. I think my sense of smell is broken though, because I seriously barely notice the smell unless I open the jar and put my face in there.

/might explain why most foods don't bother me, even durian
 
2012-12-31 02:13:00 PM

llamalarity: frepnog:
oh come on. don't like about pokeweed. that shiat is NASTY.

Never tried the greens like in the song Poke Salad Annie. Have enjoyed the stems sliced and fried like okra. Must be picked in early spring before it turns purple.


Even then, you're not encouraged to ever eat the stems. They become toxic prior to the onset of obvious purple color.
 
2012-12-31 02:14:35 PM

ciberido: It would be like if you had a penpal in Asia who came to America for the very first time and when you went out to eat together, she ordered a hamburger, threw the meat patty away, and used the bun to make a ketchup sandwich.


Ketchup sandwiches are a thing.
 
2012-12-31 02:15:54 PM

CyberHippyRedux: This text is now purple: aagrajag:

Although if you want to see what really desperate people will turn into food, consider that pokeweed, stinging nettles and russian thistles are edible, given the right timing or sufficient length of effort.

Stinging nettles are very tasty, but they have to be wild-crafted, you'll never find fresh nettles in stores. Steamed, with some soy sauce & mayonnaise, they kept my hay-fever under control all this Spring.

/fiance wildcrafts herbs for fun and $
/also makes sauerkraut and kimshi at home, so tasty


I want to meet someone who has ever eaten salted tumbleweeds by choice.

\At least in a situation where the other choice wasn't "starvation".
 
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