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(Guardian)   Landlord angry after deadbeat tenants slink away in the middle of the night, leaving behind a huge mess and five years unpaid rent   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 24
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2012-12-31 04:50:01 AM
5 votes:
No big deal.

I mean, what is the worst that could happen from making empty promises to these people, using them as we need for our war purposes and then skipping town in a puff of smoke whenever we feel like it?

I mean.... these are tribal people. Primitives. Hardly worth our concern.

It's not like those feelings of betrayal and neglect could fester and end up biting us in the ass in 20 years time. We have nothing to worry about from these people.

/If we Americans have one tradition, it's making sure we learn nothing from our wars.
2012-12-31 06:08:42 AM
3 votes:
www.flightnetwork.com

Well, one of the greatest anyway
2012-12-31 04:08:58 AM
3 votes:
Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.
2012-12-31 03:11:23 AM
3 votes:
2012-12-31 07:05:53 AM
2 votes:

THE GREAT NAME: The guardian. Britain's number two taliban propaganda outlet. We can expect this to appear on BBC news soon, displacing stories about immigrant paedophile rings.


Since you evidently live in Britain, you should really avail yourself of the free mental health care services the NHS provides. 'Cuz son, you need the help.
2012-12-31 06:52:47 AM
2 votes:

abhorrent1: Is this satire? Since when does an occupying army pay rent to a country they've invaded?


We rent the land we put bases on, including places like Okinawa where we last actually won a war: Link
2012-12-31 05:55:47 AM
2 votes:
Or to put it another way. There's no way these people would wait five years to be paid any agreed upon 'rent.' The US Military doesn't have the financial capacity to owe money for that long: everything has to be zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year or heads roll. That means if they owe somoene money, they track you down and shove it into their hands rather than have money owed at the end of the fiscal period. And yes, I was in a finance unit.
2012-12-31 05:52:29 AM
2 votes:
Speaking as a former soldier, here's my two cents on the issue.
Suddenly rolling out makes sense. You don't declare when you're rolling out.
However, that there is 'rent owed' for what is basically now just another unremarkable patch of wasteland is laughable. This wasn't land in a city, this was probably a spot with nothing on it and nobody around. Sure, lots of folks will 'claim' that it is their land and they are owed rent, but property law over there consists of "I have a gun, therefor this is my property." "Well we have two guns, now it's our property."
2012-12-31 04:10:15 AM
2 votes:

retarded: Repeat


At this point, it's pretty obvious The Onion isn't really funny or even satire. It's just a random local paper whose content management is so messed up it often runs stories from several years in the future.
2012-12-31 12:55:12 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?



When the Nazis blew up their own buildings, we insisted that it MUST be evidence of their attempts to hide unspeakably heinous acts.
2012-12-30 11:13:56 PM
2 votes:
The tenant pointed to a list of people who sacrificed all on their behalf and walked away without saying a word.
2012-12-31 07:52:10 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


Over the years they leveled several in the compound to create more useful space/fields of fire. Wasn't done in one night as the article would suggest.
2012-12-31 06:53:40 AM
1 votes:

sprgrss: Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.


When has that stopped us before?
2012-12-31 06:51:49 AM
1 votes:

Bomb Head Mohammed: Securitywyrm: Speaking as a former soldier, here's my two cents on the issue.
Suddenly rolling out makes sense. You don't declare when you're rolling out.
However, that there is 'rent owed' for what is basically now just another unremarkable patch of wasteland is laughable. This wasn't land in a city, this was probably a spot with nothing on it and nobody around. Sure, lots of folks will 'claim' that it is their land and they are owed rent, but property law over there consists of "I have a gun, therefor this is my property." "Well we have two guns, now it's our property."

So, you sign a rent contract and then decide that you don't want to pay. Do I have that right, hero?

No wonder we lost hearts, minds, and thus, the plot.


Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.
2012-12-31 06:39:01 AM
1 votes:
The guardian. Britain's number two taliban propaganda outlet. We can expect this to appear on BBC news soon, displacing stories about immigrant paedophile rings.
2012-12-31 06:05:44 AM
1 votes:

SpaceBison: Yeah but the DFAC serves Baskin Robbins ice cream so that's a plus.


www.esquire.com

newsimg.bbc.co.uk

2.bp.blogspot.com

We truly are the greatest nation on earth.
2012-12-31 05:47:23 AM
1 votes:
No wonder we are nearly universally hated in those parts of the world.
2012-12-31 05:08:02 AM
1 votes:
Why is it that Afghanistan reminds me of a tourist trap?

/go away, but leave your money.
2012-12-31 04:56:54 AM
1 votes:

spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?


I've been living and working in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2008, rent free courtesy of the US Army and not paying much tax courtesy of the IRS foreign earned income tax exclusion.

I'm not going to lie, it's pretty awesome.
2012-12-31 03:03:16 AM
1 votes:
But Khan said it was mostly worthless in an area of subsistence farmers. "I can't sell any of the equipment because it is not stuff that people in the district use. I just leave it in my yard, because it's quite worthless to me."

try Craigslist you dumb ass.
2012-12-30 11:59:10 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


SOP states you leave nothing behind for the enemy to use. We're admitting that the "bad guys" are going to move into wherever we leave. Well, after they massacre or assimilate local forces, of course.
2012-12-30 11:51:23 PM
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Even given that, calling it 'on their behalf' is a bit of a stretch. But I sure hope they benefit in the end.


I'll give you that. Hasty reaction to a harsh headline. I doubt the people of Afghanistan will benefit at all. We've repeated the same mistakes of Vietnam. The ruling class has moved most of the money off-shore and, from what I understand, most of the political elite keep their homes in Dubai and such. The place will revert right back to where they were when we leave. We've accomplished nothing except for keeping the scumbags at bay as long as we stay.

I was hopeful that we could figure out a way to a successful resolution, but without a competent and respected group of leaders in that land of tribal factions... there is no hope.
2012-12-30 11:51:12 PM
1 votes:
In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?
2012-12-30 11:20:59 PM
1 votes:
We have altered the deal.  Pray we do not alter it further.

NewportBarGuy: on their behalf


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