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(Guardian)   Landlord angry after deadbeat tenants slink away in the middle of the night, leaving behind a huge mess and five years unpaid rent   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 94
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2012-12-31 06:50:42 AM

Jim_Callahan: lizyrd: Jim_Callahan: Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.

"In time of peace"

"nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

The law being that owners still have to be compensated and contracts honored, works the same as eminent domain seizures, basically.


Repeat after me. The 3rd Amendment doesn't apply to Afghanistan.
 
2012-12-31 06:51:49 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Securitywyrm: Speaking as a former soldier, here's my two cents on the issue.
Suddenly rolling out makes sense. You don't declare when you're rolling out.
However, that there is 'rent owed' for what is basically now just another unremarkable patch of wasteland is laughable. This wasn't land in a city, this was probably a spot with nothing on it and nobody around. Sure, lots of folks will 'claim' that it is their land and they are owed rent, but property law over there consists of "I have a gun, therefor this is my property." "Well we have two guns, now it's our property."

So, you sign a rent contract and then decide that you don't want to pay. Do I have that right, hero?

No wonder we lost hearts, minds, and thus, the plot.


Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.
 
2012-12-31 06:52:47 AM

abhorrent1: Is this satire? Since when does an occupying army pay rent to a country they've invaded?


We rent the land we put bases on, including places like Okinawa where we last actually won a war: Link
 
2012-12-31 06:53:40 AM

sprgrss: Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.


When has that stopped us before?
 
2012-12-31 06:57:26 AM

Kyosuke: sprgrss: Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.

When has that stopped us before?


Despite your attempts to equivocate it, the US isn't in the business of directly funding people who wage war against America.
 
2012-12-31 06:57:49 AM
Wars of occupation suck. Maybe we shouldn't fight any more of them.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:16 AM
Typically when a tenant has spent almost $600 billion in operating costs on land worth a couple million dollars, the tenant would have purchased the land at some point.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:53 AM

THE GREAT NAME: The guardian. Britain's number two taliban propaganda outlet. We can expect this to appear on BBC news soon, displacing stories about immigrant paedophile rings.


Since you evidently live in Britain, you should really avail yourself of the free mental health care services the NHS provides. 'Cuz son, you need the help.
 
2012-12-31 07:06:36 AM
Vietnam is still waiting on US reparations from the war, so Afghanistan shouldn't hold their breath
 
2012-12-31 07:06:38 AM

sprgrss: Kyosuke: sprgrss: Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.

When has that stopped us before?

Despite your attempts to equivocate it, the US isn't in the business of directly funding people who wage war against America.


Hahhhahahohohohoheeeheheheheheheeeeee oh MAN that was a good one!
 
2012-12-31 07:14:24 AM
I'll guess the "landlords" forgot to sign a "contract".

Just kidding this story is stupid and no such rent was ever owed.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:15 AM
The history of Afghanistan is such that you wonder why anyone even lives there after the last 5,000 years of history.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:17 AM
Vietnam can suck my D%ck. Afghanistan can wait till it's hard again.

COUNTries at war get no sorrow from me.
 
2012-12-31 07:39:09 AM

sloshed_again: Vietnam can suck my D%ck. Afghanistan can wait till it's hard again.

COUNTries at war get no sorrow from me.


I'm guessing that you think "they" hate America because of its FreedomTM.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:13 AM

Trapper439: I'm guessing that you think "they" hate America because of its FreedomTM.


I'm wondering why they hate us but yet keep wanting to come here.
 
2012-12-31 07:52:10 AM

fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


Over the years they leveled several in the compound to create more useful space/fields of fire. Wasn't done in one night as the article would suggest.
 
2012-12-31 07:57:35 AM

Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol


Well, when you drive one of these....

images.wikia.com

Rent is generally free.
 
2012-12-31 08:01:31 AM

spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?


Why not?
 
2012-12-31 08:04:32 AM
I get that it is a screwed up situation (not just present day but over the past 500(?) years). Also, Afghanistan has historic issues with occupiers coming and going, but the Afghan leadership and people have played a part in this too. As of late, Karzai & Company seem to be already lovey-dovey with new suitor - China. Doesn't mean NATO is absolved of many issues, but there have been well more than two tangoing for the past few hundred years.

Karzai wants NATO-led troops out of Afghan villages
PanARMENIAN.Net
December 15, 2012

China in Afghanistan, a tale of two mines
By Raffaello Pantucci
Financial Times
Dec 4, 2012

Karzai's swan song
by Mohammad Jamil
Pakistan Observer
December 18, 2012
 
2012-12-31 08:17:05 AM
How can you tell they left a mess?
 
2012-12-31 08:22:34 AM

hbk72777: How can you tell they left a mess?


When you poop and look behind you.

When you poop and don't.
 
2012-12-31 08:25:00 AM
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2012-12-31 08:27:49 AM

illannoyin: SpaceBison: Yeah but the DFAC serves Baskin Robbins ice cream so that's a plus.

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We truly are the greatest nation on earth.


Are those pictures from Al Udied? If so that takes me back.
 
2012-12-31 08:39:14 AM
In the Afghan dictionary you are gonna find gratitude after gimme and gotcha.
 
2012-12-31 09:13:30 AM
Burn, blow up, destry everything we built and then come home. Screw 'em.
 
2012-12-31 09:18:08 AM

wildlifer: Burn, blow up, destry everything we built and then come home. Screw 'em.


Great idea, I am sure if we fark'em hard enough they will never welcome anti-American terrorist groups back to train and plot against us. Billions of dollars spent, thousands of lives lost and Wildlifer wants to burn any shabby bridge we have in place.
 
2012-12-31 09:23:45 AM

monoski: wildlifer: Burn, blow up, destry everything we built and then come home. Screw 'em.

Great idea, I am sure if we fark'em hard enough they will never welcome anti-American terrorist groups back to train and plot against us. Billions of dollars spent, thousands of lives lost and Wildlifer wants to burn any shabby bridge we have in place.


He's far too kind. I'd nuke the f*cking sh*thole, and take care of that problem forever.
 
2012-12-31 09:53:40 AM

Securitywyrm: Or to put it another way. There's no way these people would wait five years to be paid any agreed upon 'rent.' The US Military doesn't have the financial capacity to owe money for that long: everything has to be zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year or heads roll. That means if they owe somoene money, they track you down and shove it into their hands rather than have money owed at the end of the fiscal period. And yes, I was in a finance unit.


Hush, everybody knows finance numbers are completely made up by evil Zionazi bankers, just like any election results that don't favor the correct, and only internationally legal, political party. OCCUPY WALL STREET, NOT THE TALIBAN! NO BLOOD FOR FREEDOM!

/amidoingitrite, Amos?
 
2012-12-31 09:57:22 AM

fozziewazzi: In the Afghan dictionary you are gonna find gratitude after gimme and gotcha.


they'll be in that order in the OED too...
 
2012-12-31 10:25:07 AM
Five years? That's all they got?
 
2012-12-31 10:40:12 AM
Oh FARK these people.

How many BILLIONS did we pump into their shiatty, backwards country?

Fark'em. Good riddance.
 
2012-12-31 10:40:56 AM
wildlifer


That's funny, I think that the 9/11 hijackers had the same idea. Guess were not that different after all, huh?


/idiot
 
2012-12-31 11:15:01 AM

NewportBarGuy: Relatively Obscure: NewportBarGuy: on their behalf

wat

Well, partially. The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups.


Like we've done that here.
 
2012-12-31 11:37:05 AM

NewportBarGuy: The tenant pointed to a list of people who sacrificed all on their behalf and walked away without saying a word.


The people on that list didn't sacrifice all on behalf of the Afghans. They died there so that they wouldn't have to die in the US. They were sacrificed on behalf of the US, fighting an unwinnable war.
 
2012-12-31 12:54:15 PM
Almost a troll-tastic headline. Forgot to add "heavily armed."
 
2012-12-31 01:05:16 PM

Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol


Afghanistan?
 
2012-12-31 01:08:43 PM
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2012-12-31 02:15:23 PM
sprgrss: Given where it was located in Afghanistan, I'm going to put money on the US not paying rent because that rent money was going toward funding insurgent groups.

speculative nonsense from an armchair expert.
 
2012-12-31 02:39:14 PM

NewportBarGuy: Relatively Obscure: NewportBarGuy: on their behalf

wat

Well, partially. The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups. Have we or will we achieve that goal? Probably not. But, the effort was made.


Can we still go to Plan B: glass parking lot?
 
2012-12-31 05:34:15 PM

TV's Vinnie: Can we still go to Plan B: glass parking lot?


I don't care anymore. The whole thing depresses me. Go for it. Nothing of value will be lost. However, not much will be gained either.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:05 PM

sprgrss: Despite your attempts to equivocate it, the US isn't in the business of directly funding people who wage war against America.


... You actually believe that? Did you stop buying oil, all of a sudden? Oh, you're trying to get out of it with the weasel word "directly". So you admit you indirectly fund terrorists, at least.

So how about all that money you've been giving to warlords in Afghanistan on the promise (I swear!) they will stay out of it. I'm sure they don't just hand it on to their friends to buy guns to kill you with. How many billions have mysteriously gone missing in Iraq and Afghanistan now? I wonder where it went.

And do you honestly think the terrorist groups you're currently funding in Iran won't turn against you like OBL and Al Qaeda, and your buddy Saddam Hussein? Has the CIA ever had an idea that didn't go horribly wrong? And can you explain why it's okay to directly fund terrorist organisations so long as they're killing non-Americans? Terrorism is either okay or it's not.

By the way, in Afghanistan, regardless of what you think of their horrible way of life they are not waging war against you, YOU are waging war against them. Because you invaded their country. The right to fight off invaders doesn't include the clause "unless you have the wrong religion/politics".

/The place is called "The Graveyard of Empires" for a reason
//America FTL
 
2012-12-31 07:52:28 PM
They a-howlin' about the front rent, they'll be lucky to get any back rent,
They ain't gonna get none of it.
 
2012-12-31 07:53:14 PM
And out the door we went.
 
2012-12-31 09:15:49 PM
It is ridiculously difficult to evict a deadbeat tenant. I say: you miss one month's rent--you're out!
 
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