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(Guardian)   Landlord angry after deadbeat tenants slink away in the middle of the night, leaving behind a huge mess and five years unpaid rent   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 94
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2012-12-30 11:13:56 PM  
The tenant pointed to a list of people who sacrificed all on their behalf and walked away without saying a word.
 
2012-12-30 11:20:59 PM  
We have altered the deal.  Pray we do not alter it further.

NewportBarGuy: on their behalf


wat
 
2012-12-30 11:31:54 PM  

Relatively Obscure: NewportBarGuy: on their behalf

wat


Well, partially. The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups. Have we or will we achieve that goal? Probably not. But, the effort was made.
 
2012-12-30 11:44:54 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Relatively Obscure: NewportBarGuy: on their behalf

wat

Well, partially. The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups. Have we or will we achieve that goal? Probably not. But, the effort was made.


Even given that, calling it 'on their behalf' is a bit of a stretch.  But I sure hope they benefit in the end.
 
2012-12-30 11:51:12 PM  
In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?
 
2012-12-30 11:51:23 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Even given that, calling it 'on their behalf' is a bit of a stretch. But I sure hope they benefit in the end.


I'll give you that. Hasty reaction to a harsh headline. I doubt the people of Afghanistan will benefit at all. We've repeated the same mistakes of Vietnam. The ruling class has moved most of the money off-shore and, from what I understand, most of the political elite keep their homes in Dubai and such. The place will revert right back to where they were when we leave. We've accomplished nothing except for keeping the scumbags at bay as long as we stay.

I was hopeful that we could figure out a way to a successful resolution, but without a competent and respected group of leaders in that land of tribal factions... there is no hope.
 
2012-12-30 11:59:10 PM  

fusillade762: And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


SOP states you leave nothing behind for the enemy to use. We're admitting that the "bad guys" are going to move into wherever we leave. Well, after they massacre or assimilate local forces, of course.
 
2012-12-31 12:52:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Relatively Obscure: NewportBarGuy: on their behalf

wat

Well, partially. The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups. Have we or will we achieve that goal? Probably not. But, the effort was made.



The effort was made?

Tell THAT to the bank.
 
2012-12-31 12:55:12 AM  

fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?



When the Nazis blew up their own buildings, we insisted that it MUST be evidence of their attempts to hide unspeakably heinous acts.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:24 AM  
I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol
 
2012-12-31 03:03:16 AM  
But Khan said it was mostly worthless in an area of subsistence farmers. "I can't sell any of the equipment because it is not stuff that people in the district use. I just leave it in my yard, because it's quite worthless to me."

try Craigslist you dumb ass.
 
2012-12-31 03:11:23 AM  
 
2012-12-31 04:08:58 AM  
Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.
 
2012-12-31 04:10:15 AM  

retarded: Repeat


At this point, it's pretty obvious The Onion isn't really funny or even satire. It's just a random local paper whose content management is so messed up it often runs stories from several years in the future.
 
2012-12-31 04:10:57 AM  
I was thinking "Dude that is totally Effed up i hope they catch the bastards".

Then i saw it was our soldiers and had a mental pause, "Oh thats ok then."

Its ok to be a hippocrite when it comes to our brave honorable armed forces right?

Doing otherwise would be unpatriotic.
 
2012-12-31 04:17:30 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.


Especially since it doesn't apply
 
2012-12-31 04:19:09 AM  

NewportBarGuy: The objective is to build a sustainable, secure state so they won't be a haven for terrorist groups.


Without actually asking.
 
2012-12-31 04:19:18 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.


"In time of peace"
 
2012-12-31 04:28:13 AM  

lizyrd: Jim_Callahan: Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.

"In time of peace"


Minor details. Trifles, really--like when George Bush and Co. got on the teevee and said that Iraq had WMDs.
 
2012-12-31 04:31:11 AM  

lizyrd: Jim_Callahan: Way to protect and serve the constitution, idiots. It's not like there's an entire amendment in the bill of rights saying it's a fundamental human right to not have soldiers quartered on your property without your permission and recompense or anything.

//Man, you don't get to make a third amendment reference very often.

"In time of peace"


"nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

The law being that owners still have to be compensated and contracts honored, works the same as eminent domain seizures, basically.
 
2012-12-31 04:50:01 AM  
No big deal.

I mean, what is the worst that could happen from making empty promises to these people, using them as we need for our war purposes and then skipping town in a puff of smoke whenever we feel like it?

I mean.... these are tribal people. Primitives. Hardly worth our concern.

It's not like those feelings of betrayal and neglect could fester and end up biting us in the ass in 20 years time. We have nothing to worry about from these people.

/If we Americans have one tradition, it's making sure we learn nothing from our wars.
 
2012-12-31 04:54:18 AM  

Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol


Afghanistan?
 
2012-12-31 04:56:54 AM  

spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?


I've been living and working in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2008, rent free courtesy of the US Army and not paying much tax courtesy of the IRS foreign earned income tax exclusion.

I'm not going to lie, it's pretty awesome.
 
2012-12-31 05:01:57 AM  
RTFA

Sounds like a sensationalized report on how the US military might be evil reported by a foreign news paper. Not saying it isn't true at this point but it isn't like the US military to do this as the base/outpost turnovers have been peaceful and productive for the most part. Even the article reports there is little legal documentation and anyone could have approached the reporter and said "they done took off and didn't give mah rent!"

Who knows for sure at this point......
 
2012-12-31 05:06:35 AM  
Spokesman for the tenant was unavailable for comment

images.politico.com
 
2012-12-31 05:08:02 AM  
Why is it that Afghanistan reminds me of a tourist trap?

/go away, but leave your money.
 
2012-12-31 05:13:19 AM  

Amos Quito: fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


When the Nazis blew up their own buildings, we insisted that it MUST be evidence of their attempts to hide unspeakably heinous acts.


One of the Staff Sergeants was a fan of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo and Jersey Shore and had a few episodes DVR'd remotely.

I hope the used thermite. That shiat is a war crime and a half.
 
2012-12-31 05:14:44 AM  

RabidJade: RTFA

Sounds like a sensationalized report on how the US military might be evil reported by a foreign news paper. Not saying it isn't true at this point but it isn't like the US military to do this..........


Lolwut.
 
2012-12-31 05:25:25 AM  

MurphyMurphy: No big deal.

I mean, what is the worst that could happen from making empty promises to these people, using them as we need for our war purposes and then skipping town in a puff of smoke whenever we feel like it?

I mean.... these are tribal people. Primitives. Hardly worth our concern.

It's not like those feelings of betrayal and neglect could fester and end up biting us in the ass in 20 years time. We have nothing to worry about from these people.

/If we Americans have one tradition, it's making sure we learn nothing from our wars.


Well, in this case it's not like the Afghanis could hate us MORE than they already do, since they already hate us with the burning passion of a thousand suns.
 
2012-12-31 05:29:23 AM  
One of my favorites was going ontop of an unoccupied hill and building a small base. Two months later a guy shows up and says its his land and demands rent. Sit down with the local elders who say they have never met the guy.

/Afghans trying to milk money from CF or going back on their word? Why I never.
 
2012-12-31 05:31:42 AM  

retarded: spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?

I've been living and working in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2008, rent free courtesy of the US Army and not paying much tax courtesy of the IRS foreign earned income tax exclusion.

I'm not going to lie, it's pretty awesome.


Except the whole living in Iraq and Afghanistan part.
 
2012-12-31 05:38:17 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, in this case it's not like the Afghanis could hate us MORE than they already do, since they already hate us with the burning passion of a thousand suns.


Yeah, but now they hate us with the burning passion of two thousand suns! :P
 
2012-12-31 05:42:55 AM  
Well, I can tell you it wasn't an Air Force group using this "base". They'd have caught hell from some soulless bureaucrat somewhere for not recovering every last speck of scrap metal and debris for recycling. On top of that, without seeing pictures of the equipment they claim was left behind, we only have their word that it was American junk to begin with. I wouldn't put it past a rural village to have gone in, blown up a few of the buildings, and gathered up some of the old Soviet crap they have laying around to try and extort extra money from their foreign "guests."

/that's not including filling out all the paperwork for lost/missing equipment
 
2012-12-31 05:43:53 AM  
And, in the news today....

NOT A SINGLE F#$% WAS GIVEN
 
2012-12-31 05:47:23 AM  
No wonder we are nearly universally hated in those parts of the world.
 
2012-12-31 05:48:27 AM  

SDRR: retarded: spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?

I've been living and working in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2008, rent free courtesy of the US Army and not paying much tax courtesy of the IRS foreign earned income tax exclusion.

I'm not going to lie, it's pretty awesome.

Except the whole living in Iraq and Afghanistan part.


Yeah but the DFAC serves Baskin Robbins ice cream so that's a plus.
 
2012-12-31 05:49:59 AM  

SDRR: retarded: spawn73: Mazzic518: I want to live somewhere rent free for five years lol

Afghanistan?

I've been living and working in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2008, rent free courtesy of the US Army and not paying much tax courtesy of the IRS foreign earned income tax exclusion.

I'm not going to lie, it's pretty awesome.

Except the whole living in Iraq and Afghanistan part.


Yeah the part with the war and abject poverty and horrible pollution, especially in Kabul, and the mind-numbing bureaucracy of the Army and government in general, all that actually really sucks donkey balls.
 
2012-12-31 05:52:29 AM  
Speaking as a former soldier, here's my two cents on the issue.
Suddenly rolling out makes sense. You don't declare when you're rolling out.
However, that there is 'rent owed' for what is basically now just another unremarkable patch of wasteland is laughable. This wasn't land in a city, this was probably a spot with nothing on it and nobody around. Sure, lots of folks will 'claim' that it is their land and they are owed rent, but property law over there consists of "I have a gun, therefor this is my property." "Well we have two guns, now it's our property."
 
2012-12-31 05:55:47 AM  
Or to put it another way. There's no way these people would wait five years to be paid any agreed upon 'rent.' The US Military doesn't have the financial capacity to owe money for that long: everything has to be zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year or heads roll. That means if they owe somoene money, they track you down and shove it into their hands rather than have money owed at the end of the fiscal period. And yes, I was in a finance unit.
 
2012-12-31 05:59:25 AM  

fusillade762: In the morning, locals found guards gone, buildings blown up and, scattered around what had been a forbidding military encampment, piles of detritus from years of western living in a remote, mountainous valley.

Might that have been a tip they were getting ready to leave? What did the locals think was going on, I wonder? And what's the logic in destroying the buildings? What did they think were going to be done with them?


What would a country full of warring tribes do with a bunch of free military bases? That's a head-scratcher.
 
2012-12-31 06:05:44 AM  

SpaceBison: Yeah but the DFAC serves Baskin Robbins ice cream so that's a plus.


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We truly are the greatest nation on earth.
 
2012-12-31 06:08:42 AM  
www.flightnetwork.com

Well, one of the greatest anyway
 
2012-12-31 06:11:36 AM  
I thought that the goal was to return Afghanistan to being a target-rich environment?
 
2012-12-31 06:20:19 AM  

CreepyBasementGuy: Why is it that Afghanistan reminds me of a tourist trap?

/go away, but leave your money.


otoolefan.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-31 06:24:41 AM  

Securitywyrm: Or to put it another way. There's no way these people would wait five years to be paid any agreed upon 'rent.' The US Military doesn't have the financial capacity to owe money for that long: everything has to be zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year or heads roll. That means if they owe somoene money, they track you down and shove it into their hands rather than have money owed at the end of the fiscal period. And yes, I was in a finance unit.


This. And everything else securitywyrm said too
 
2012-12-31 06:26:26 AM  
The Onion is so farking prophetic it's scary Link
 
2012-12-31 06:30:55 AM  
My old man
Said "Follow the van and don't dilly dally on the way".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkzkrs6bzxg
 
2012-12-31 06:37:53 AM  
Is this satire? Since when does an occupying army pay rent to a country they've invaded?
 
2012-12-31 06:39:01 AM  
The guardian. Britain's number two taliban propaganda outlet. We can expect this to appear on BBC news soon, displacing stories about immigrant paedophile rings.
 
2012-12-31 06:47:21 AM  
Securitywyrm: Speaking as a former soldier, here's my two cents on the issue.
Suddenly rolling out makes sense. You don't declare when you're rolling out.
However, that there is 'rent owed' for what is basically now just another unremarkable patch of wasteland is laughable. This wasn't land in a city, this was probably a spot with nothing on it and nobody around. Sure, lots of folks will 'claim' that it is their land and they are owed rent, but property law over there consists of "I have a gun, therefor this is my property." "Well we have two guns, now it's our property."

So, you sign a rent contract and then decide that you don't want to pay. Do I have that right, hero?

No wonder we lost hearts, minds, and thus, the plot.
 
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