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(Weebly)   The Pope intervenes in continuing struggle against slaughtering dogs, cats for meat in ... Switzerland?   (thelocal.ch) divider line 63
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2012-12-30 08:24:01 PM  
I always suspected "Swiss steak" was a euphemism for something.
 
2012-12-30 08:47:06 PM  
It's considered an essential part of Swiss traditional rural cuisine.
 
2012-12-30 10:37:56 PM  

RexTalionis: It's considered an essential part of Swiss traditional rural cuisine.


Ants, crickets and grasshoppers are one thing. This....is something else entirely.
 
2012-12-30 10:59:49 PM  
Fondue's dark, dark secret is finally revealed.
 
2012-12-30 11:02:40 PM  
Why? They're edible, they're not sentient, who cares if you eat them?
 
2012-12-30 11:04:05 PM  
Animal abuse 2012, they draw the line. How times have changed.

Nuclear Monk: Fondue's dark, dark secret is finally revealed.


a fondue secret i learned on Fark is to include a Champagne dip bowl. acts as a bonding agent pre-cheese, helps keep the cheesy goodness on your tidbit.
 
2012-12-30 11:04:33 PM  
I spent a week in Switzerland this past summer (Geneva and surrounding area), and I had some of the best food I've ever eaten...pretty sure none of it was dog or cat.

Little cafe across the street from the main bus station in Geneva had some salami that I would kill everyone reading this thread for more of.
 
2012-12-30 11:07:17 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: I spent a week in Switzerland this past summer (Geneva and surrounding area), and I had some of the best food I've ever eaten...pretty sure none of it was dog or cat.

Little cafe across the street from the main bus station in Geneva had some salami that I would kill everyone reading this thread for more of.


DontMakeMeComeBackThere: I spent a week in Switzerland this past summer (Geneva and surrounding area), and I had some of the best food I've ever eaten...pretty sure none of it was dog or cat.

Little cafe across the street from the main bus station in Geneva had some salami that I would kill everyone reading this thread for more of.


Really? What did you order, do you recall? I've had some of the most mediocre food in Switzerland, but I may have been eating off the tourist menu. I usually end up staying places where I can cook on my own, and their butchers/bakers are among the best. Fresh Swiss dairy is to die for.
 
2012-12-30 11:12:24 PM  
I love my cat, but I straight up told him if we're ever trying to survive the apocalypse and he stops bringing back food to share, he's next...
 
2012-12-30 11:13:00 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Little cafe across the street from the main bus station in Geneva had some salami that I would kill everyone reading this thread for more of.


Pas si on vous tuer en premier.
 
2012-12-30 11:17:48 PM  

ladyfortuna: I love my cat, but I straight up told him if we're ever trying to survive the apocalypse and he stops bringing back food to share, he's next...


Trips you, head injury, you're the meal.
 
2012-12-30 11:19:02 PM  
I can't imagine ever eating a cat or dog, but some people don't have the same attachment to them that we do. If it's okay to eat a cow or a pig, it's okay to eat a dog or a cat. (just not mine!)
 
2012-12-30 11:19:55 PM  

Apos: RexTalionis: It's considered an essential part of Swiss traditional rural cuisine.

Ants, crickets and grasshoppers are one thing. This....is something else entirely.


Jim_Callahan: Why? They're edible, they're not sentient, who cares if you eat them?


Damn straight: meat is meat.
 
2012-12-30 11:23:20 PM  

ladyfortuna: I love my cat, but I straight up told him if we're ever trying to survive the apocalypse and he stops bringing back food to share, he's next...


I think along those lines as well. My motto is "Keep your neighbors and pets fat."

Personally I have no problem with what other cultures dine on. Some of it may not be my cup of tea but neither is some of the stuff I eat to them. Food is what you make of it.
 
2012-12-30 11:34:11 PM  
Its not so much different from rabbit, no?

/still couldn't bring myself to eat dog in korea.
 
2012-12-30 11:42:41 PM  
Unless they're just hardcore PETA types looking for a foot in the door toward banning animal slaughter altogether, how do people rationalize wanting to ban the eating of cat and dog (and horse for that matter)?
 
2012-12-30 11:43:43 PM  
"There's nothing odd about it", one farmer in the Rhine Valley said. "Meat is meat."

www.klatsch-tratsch.de
Bigger breasts, more meat
 
2012-12-30 11:46:37 PM  
Are the swiss eating it or are they chinese immigrants?

I remember reading about them causing a stir for bringing some of their less... enlightened traditions to the civilized world.
 
2012-12-30 11:48:31 PM  
Pigs are smarter than dogs, and super friendly if raised around people. We eat them all the time. What's the big deal?
 
2012-12-30 11:49:33 PM  

the_chief: Pigs are smarter than dogs, and super friendly if raised around people. We eat them all the time. What's the big deal?


Evidently it's wrong to eat something too cute.
 
2012-12-30 11:53:02 PM  

JesseL: Unless they're just hardcore PETA types looking for a foot in the door toward banning animal slaughter altogether, how do people rationalize wanting to ban the eating of cat and dog (and horse for that matter)?


It doesn't really have to be logical. Some animals are pets to love and pamper, others are livestock to eat. I have no emotional attachment to cows, chickens, pigs, rabbits, goats, horses, etc, so I would have no problem chowing down on a plate of any of them. I don't really care for cats (mainly due to being allergic and having to keep my distance from them) but they're still pets in my mind, and I wouldn't care to eat one. I love dogs, and the thought of eating them makes me feel a little bit ill.

Still, I wouldn't go out and try to ban the practice for those who don't share my compunctions, though I would choose not to patronize any restaurant that had dog on the menu.
 
2012-12-30 11:53:19 PM  
Another proud Swiss tradition: doing it fully clothed with the lights off.
 
2012-12-31 12:06:15 AM  

KrispyKritter: . acts as a bonding agent pre-cheese, helps keep the cheesy goodness on your tidbit.


Now just how are you gonna explain to the ER staff how you got cheese burns on your tidbit?
 
2012-12-31 12:09:46 AM  
They make good chocolate, instruments and pocket knives, but you can't trust a country where motor sport is illegal.
 
2012-12-31 12:10:00 AM  
why does the pope need to be involved with this, seriously? hardly seems a religious matter
 
2012-12-31 12:18:13 AM  
It is estimated that around 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized in US animal shelters every year. That is one giant waste of good meat in a hungry world.

Being squeamish about eating certain types of meat is a luxury that some people cannot afford.

I personally don't eat anything with paws or hands, or any species I currently have as a pet, because it offends my sensibilities. But if I was hungry and had few options, I could easily abandon those reservations.

/I have eaten horsemeat before, in Romania. Maybe dog or cat at some point too, but unknowingly.
//and...doesn't the Pope have more important things to do?
 
2012-12-31 12:18:27 AM  

Strongbeerrules: Another proud Swiss tradition: doing it fully clothed with the lights off.



Aye, as witnessed by this link from the article:

Bern slaps down Geneva beaver

/The Swiss are such prudes
 
2012-12-31 12:25:43 AM  
You mean he took time off from protecting pedophiles? Color me surprised.
 
2012-12-31 12:39:29 AM  

Aces and Eights: It is estimated that around 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized in US animal shelters every year. That is one giant waste of good meat in a hungry world.

Being squeamish about eating certain types of meat is a luxury that some people cannot afford.

I personally don't eat anything with paws or hands, or any species I currently have as a pet, because it offends my sensibilities. But if I was hungry and had few options, I could easily abandon those reservations.

/I have eaten horsemeat before, in Romania. Maybe dog or cat at some point too, but unknowingly.
//and...doesn't the Pope have more important things to do?


You had horse in Romania? Whereabouts were you?
 
2012-12-31 12:40:37 AM  

Aces and Eights: It is estimated that around 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized in US animal shelters every year. That is one giant waste of good meat in a hungry world.

Being squeamish about eating certain types of meat is a luxury that some people cannot afford.

I personally don't eat anything with paws or hands, or any species I currently have as a pet, because it offends my sensibilities. But if I was hungry and had few options, I could easily abandon those reservations.

/I have eaten horsemeat before, in Romania. Maybe dog or cat at some point too, but unknowingly.
//and...doesn't the Pope have more important things to do?


Were the cats and dogs in Romania, too? Who is your travel agent?
 
2012-12-31 12:43:18 AM  

ladyfortuna: I love my cat, but I straight up told him if we're ever trying to survive the apocalypse and he stops bringing back food to share, he's next...


Definitely eat your cat, but don't eat your dog, they're better at finding food than you are.
 
2012-12-31 12:44:02 AM  
seelorq:   You had horse in Romania? Whereabouts were you?

Somewhere between Brasov and Bucharest. In 1981.
 
2012-12-31 12:52:14 AM  
I tried dog when I lived in Korea. Didn't seem like anything special and it was a bit on the expensive side so I don't think I'd go for it again but I have no problem with people eating whatever kind of meat they desire.

Many people keep rabbits as pets, yet you can find rabbit meat in a lot of supermarkets.

Many people keep pigeons as pets or for sport, yet go to a fancy French restaurant and you're likely to find squab (pigeon) on the menu.

We keep fish as pets, people eat fish.

Pet pigs --> bacon, need I say more?

Pet turtle --> turtle soup, delicious

Pet frog --> frogs legs, yum

Pet snake --> well it's not common but I have had it before and it was good.

And so on and so on....

I fully respect peoples right to avoid whatever foods they find off putting but it's highly hypocritical of them to start criticizing others food choices.
 
2012-12-31 12:58:28 AM  

Aces and Eights: seelorq:   You had horse in Romania? Whereabouts were you?

Somewhere between Brasov and Bucharest. In 1981.


Ah....probably Hungarian sausage from Transylvania.
 
2012-12-31 01:10:49 AM  

seelorq: Aces and Eights: seelorq:   You had horse in Romania? Whereabouts were you?

Somewhere between Brasov and Bucharest. In 1981.

Ah....probably Hungarian sausage from Transylvania.


I did go to Transylvania too. Great trip. Will never forget the distilled plum spirits they called "suwika" or something like that. Romanian moonshine. Quite a treat!
 
2012-12-31 01:26:24 AM  
Ţuica is pretty good! Wish I had some now to fix my cold.

/Brașov is in Transylvania.//And that Hungarian palinka is even better than țuica./small>
 
2012-12-31 01:28:50 AM  

seelorq: Ţuica is pretty good! Wish I had some now to fix my cold.

/Brașov is in Transylvania.
//And that Hungarian palinka is even better than țuica.


Fark my formatting.

 
2012-12-31 01:49:30 AM  

JohnAnnArbor: ladyfortuna: I love my cat, but I straight up told him if we're ever trying to survive the apocalypse and he stops bringing back food to share, he's next...

Trips you, head injury, you're the meal.


I accept that, circle of life kind of thing. The other cat tries that about once a week, joke's on him though since I'd probably crush him on way down.
 
2012-12-31 02:04:36 AM  

seelorq: Ţuica is pretty good! Wish I had some now to fix my cold.

/Brașov is in Transylvania.//And that Hungarian palinka is even better than țuica./small>


Oh thanks--when I remember Transylvania, I only think of the castle. Have many memories of Brasov but they were separate in my mind.

Suddenly craving flavorful stew and heavy bread. I'll go with beef and potatoes, hold the horses, thank you. ;-)
 
2012-12-31 03:00:44 AM  
Hey why not let the cat get back at the dog by feeding the dog to him.
 
2012-12-31 03:01:22 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Why? They're edible, they're not sentient, who cares if you eat them?


Sentient just means the capacity to feel and have experiences. It doesn't imply human language, space stations or opposable thumbs. All mammals are sentient. Probably insects and lower are not generally considered sentient.
 
2012-12-31 03:19:52 AM  

Aces and Eights: It is estimated that around 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized in US animal shelters every year. That is one giant waste of good meat in a hungry world.

Being squeamish about eating certain types of meat is a luxury that some people cannot afford.

I personally don't eat anything with paws or hands, or any species I currently have as a pet, because it offends my sensibilities. But if I was hungry and had few options, I could easily abandon those reservations.

/I have eaten horsemeat before, in Romania. Maybe dog or cat at some point too, but unknowingly.
//and...doesn't the Pope have more important things to do?



I have had dog unknowingly served to me a few times in rural china. Not at all bad in a spicy stew. Cat is apparantly much tougher, but I've never tried it.

Horsemeat is normal in many parts of the world, I've never understood why Americans have such an aversion to it. If your horse is too old to run or work, you eat it. In Japan, raw horsemeat is a delicacy in some regions, and it is quite tasty.
 
2012-12-31 03:56:12 AM  

ElBarto79:
Pet snake --> well it's not common but I have had it before and it was good.


Used to eat rattler all the time, when they were hanging out in areas with people, especially children, we'd obviously have to off them, and once it's dead no reason not to stick it on the grill and put some barbecue sauce on it.

ThrobblefootSpectre: Jim_Callahan: Why? They're edible, they're not sentient, who cares if you eat them?

Sentient just means the capacity to feel and have experiences. It doesn't imply human language, space stations or opposable thumbs. All mammals are sentient. Probably insects and lower are not generally considered sentient.


I was using the word in the narrower sense of the ability to have subjective or abstract experiences, a capacity which lower animals tend to mostly lack, not totally but for the most part. Then, we also eat monkeys and apes, which have a capacity for abstract thought reasonably close to on par with ours, so I guess meh.

Point is, at some point you have to deal with the fact that most of the other organisms in the world are food, that's what being an omnivore means. Or, rather, that "some random other member of my species is emotionally attached to some random member of this food species" is not a valid grounds for disqualifying a creature's entire species as food. Somewhere out there there's a farmer that's really attached to his hops, you gonna give up beer too?
 
2012-12-31 04:00:19 AM  
Never understood why people care about this.  I wouldn't eat either, but if people enjoy it who cares?  It's no different than eating any other animal.  People keep fish as pets and nobody has a problem with eating seafood.
 
2012-12-31 04:20:57 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I was using the word in the narrower sense of the ability to have subjective or abstract experiences, a capacity which lower animals tend to mostly lack, not totally but for the most part. Then, we also eat monkeys and apes, which have a capacity for abstract thought reasonably close to on par with ours, so I guess meh.


Cool.


Jim_Callahan: you gonna give up beer too?


Already did. But only after dark patches on a sonagram told me I had a choice to make. :(
 
2012-12-31 05:12:14 AM  
If you're OK with eating pork, beef, poultry, seafood or other meat but you think that it's wrong to eat horse, cat, dog or any other meat, how are you not a hypocrite?
 
2012-12-31 05:42:14 AM  
The problem with the swiss is that they are a bunch of closet nazi farkheads who use their bullshiat "neutrality" as an excuse to bankroll every terrorist, crackpot dictator and any other subhuman shiatstain who needs to hide their money.

The dog eating thing is less important.
 
2012-12-31 06:15:35 AM  

Aces and Eights: /I have eaten horsemeat before, in Romania. Maybe dog or cat at some point too, but unknowingly.


Belmont steaks?
 
2012-12-31 06:55:20 AM  

Tigger: The problem with the swiss is that they are a bunch of closet nazi farkheads who use their bullshiat "neutrality" as an excuse to bankroll every terrorist, crackpot dictator and any other subhuman shiatstain who needs to hide their money.

The dog eating thing is less important.


Your profile says "global capitalism before protectionism". I'd think you'd have no problem with what the Swiss banks choose to do with deposited money.
 
2012-12-31 06:56:59 AM  

They also eat horse, which is good. Hmmm, horse.

But dogs and cats? That's Appenzell, which is infamous for not granting women the right to vote locally until 1991. Conservative as all hell there.
 
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