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2012-12-30 09:20:47 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: Trolltastic headline

*ding ding ding ding*

Exactly. I wouldn't mind the trolltastic headlines if they were funny or creative.

This? Strictly bush league stuff. We're better than this.


That said, Skyfall is awesome, as is Daniel Craig as Bond. Whatever problems exist with Quantum of Solace (of which there are plenty), you *can't* fault Craig. He brings it each and every time.

Definitely better than Brosnan's Bond from my humblest of humble points of view.



Agreed ten-fold.

Craig kills Bond movies like....eh, I won't go there.
 
2012-12-30 09:20:50 PM
Skyfall was badass.

Craig was the victim of one poorly written movie (QoS), Brosnan was victim to a poorly written theme/tone across many movies (though GoldenEye was badass)

Strip them of the movie story-lines and everything else and just looking at the actors themselves, they were/are both really good Bonds.
 
2012-12-30 09:22:39 PM

theflatline: I can agree with all those but Craig to Bond is amazing, like Swayze to Roadhouse. I was a Moore fan until I read the books, and realized that Bond was a cold hearted bad ass.


Moore wasn't my favorite, but I enjoyed what he did. His films were enjoyable, even when they were very silly.

Octopussy has perfect amounts of silliness and excitement.


Mugato: Brosnan's Bond killed people in cold blood including his best friend and women. But he also had a sense of humor about it.


The next Bond reboot/flashback/origin film should cover how it is that Bond got his sense of humor.

I always wondered about that.
 
2012-12-30 09:23:27 PM
Not a big fan of Skyfall, and I say that as someone who actually liked Quantum of Solace.

It was the plotholes that did it for me; it still makes absolutely no sense as to why Bond would actually take M with him to Skyfall, instead of say, leaving her somewhere else, anywhere else really, while still setting up the trap.

Then there were the small things, like Bond acting perfectly fine after falling into a frozen lake, not taking out the bullet fragments until after the fitness tests, the cheesiness of the villain, etc.

It could have been a lot better in my opinion.
 
2012-12-30 09:24:07 PM

MurphyMurphy: Skyfall was badass.

Craig was the victim of one poorly written movie (QoS), Brosnan was victim to a poorly written theme/tone across many movies (though GoldenEye was badass)

Strip them of the movie story-lines and everything else and just looking at the actors themselves, they were/are both really good Bonds.


I'll comment that, again, both Bond girls in Golden Eye were awesome. I especially liked the dynamic between Brosnan and Izabella Scorupco. I usually like the tougher Bond girls more.

"I'm fine, thank you for asking."

"Kill him; he means nothing to me."
 
2012-12-30 09:24:40 PM

MurphyMurphy: Strip them of the movie story-lines and everything else and just looking at the actors themselves, they were/are both really good Bonds.


*nods accordingly*

Definitely, that.

If Brosnan had Dalton-era material, THAT would've been boss.


fatalvenom: Agreed ten-fold.

Craig kills Bond movies


Now that they've turned Craig's Bond INTO Classic Bond at the end of Skyfall, I can't wait to see where they go next.

But please, just let him try the coat rack hat toss ONCE.
 
2012-12-30 09:25:57 PM

born_yesterday: I'll comment that, again, both Bond girls in Golden Eye were awesome. I especially liked the dynamic between Brosnan and Izabella Scorupco. I usually like the tougher Bond girls more.

"I'm fine, thank you for asking."

"Kill him; he means nothing to me."


What was particularly interesting was that they didn't really glam her up until towards the end of the movie.

You know, as opposed to Denise Richards in The World is Not Enough, who was ALL OUT THERE from the get-go.
 
2012-12-30 09:30:47 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: MurphyMurphy: Strip them of the movie story-lines and everything else and just looking at the actors themselves, they were/are both really good Bonds.

*nods accordingly*

Definitely, that.

If Brosnan had Dalton-era material, THAT would've been boss.


fatalvenom: Agreed ten-fold.

Craig kills Bond movies

Now that they've turned Craig's Bond INTO Classic Bond at the end of Skyfall, I can't wait to see where they go next.

But please, just let him try the coat rack hat toss ONCE.



I just want to see him actually bed Moneypenny...release it under Vivid if they had to.

I've already seen Vesper's tits in that low budget french movie anyhow.
 
2012-12-30 09:43:18 PM
I had to wait a few weeks to see Skyfall, and went in, eager to see the 10 everyone had been raving about. Imagine my surprise when, around the end of the second Act, the film turned in to a Home Alone movie. What the hell were they thinking. It was a 7.5 at best. Still decent, but nothing to write home about. Craig stands and watches Dench and Badrem act circles around him, and they leave him with a 12 year old as Q.
 
2012-12-30 09:45:00 PM

fatalvenom: I just want to see him actually bed Moneypenny...release it under Vivid if they had to.

I've already seen Vesper's tits in that low budget french movie anyhow.



Well, that escalated quickly!
 
2012-12-30 09:51:42 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Whatever problems exist with Quantum of Solace (of which there are plenty), you *can't* fault Craig.


Actually you kind of can, since he helped write that one.
 
2012-12-30 09:52:02 PM
Quantum of Solace is the best Craig film. I don't understand the hate. There is one scene at the beginning where Bond kills the double agent that is a bit too choppy with fast cuts but that is a minor flaw. The plot, pacing and portrayal of Bond are spot on. He is hardened after being duped by Vesper and is mostly cold towards his work, although he does illicit some compassion when Fields gets killed.

The casting of Greene was probably a bit off due to the physical similarity between him and Le Chiffre but again very minor.


Casino Royale is let down by a poor ending, the whole last action sequence in Venice is so contrived it was like Pirates of the Caribbean. The poker is quite unrealistic as well and we miss the important poker action where Bond becomes chip leader and has 59% of the chips going into the final hand.


Skyfall is just riddled with plot holes and things that lead nowhere. The whole bit with the Chinese sex slave in the casino/boat is very creepy and has no pay off. She gets killed but I don't think there was any attachment. The whole after Bardem got captured felt like 24, and that is not a compliment.
 
2012-12-30 09:53:05 PM

fusillade762: lilistonic: Gig103: I like both Brosnan and Craig as James Bond. But apparently that isn't allowed, we're only supposed to like a single version of a character.

To me they are like the Doctor.

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Exactly so.

He just gets to have a lot more sex with his companions than the Doctor does.
 
2012-12-30 09:56:43 PM

thisiszombocom: 1. i dont care about bonds childhood. boo hoo, youre an orphan. it doesnt make you any more interesting a character
2. i dont need to see bond go on a bender cause boo hoo mi6 abandoned me
3. i dont need to see bond play castle defense. youre a super spy. youre supposed to infiltrate secret lairs, not turtle up in an abandoned home. it was better done in la confidential anyways
4. i dont need to see bond cry


I'd have to agree with that. Also since when did we plug the super hacker's laptop directly into the Mi6 network? I can't even get my personal Android on the corporate wirless, but we just go ahead and plug that farker right in?

Also Shanghai is a complete farking letdown. It's an amazing city with an amazing skyline on the river. The classic Bund on one side, the modern sky scrapers on the other. All we really see is one fight in a glass room with neon lights. I was expecting more out of the location than that.

Craig is good, but the writing for this one was mediocre. They were too caught up in sending off Dench in grand style and let it take over too much of the movie.

/also the lack of gadgets, I thought Casino had the perfect balance of gadgets but this one was just dull
//I guess Mi6 agents never get to were gloves if they want to fire their gun
 
2012-12-30 09:56:46 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: lilistonic: Dalton kind of got ripped off.

That's ALL I'm saying. Thank you.


This.  The Living Daylights wasn't the best Bond film, but it wasn't terrible.  License to Kill, on the other hand, was Miami Vice with a British accent. My personal favorite, and don't get me wrong, I like Connery and Craig, would be  For Your Eyes Only, because it was the original down to Earth Bond film.

As for  Skyfall, I enjoyed it. Watching a Bond film requires suspension of disbelief. Despite what the film said, there is no way that James Bond was born and raised in Scotland. Of Scottish descent, sure. Highland Scottish? No. My other complaint is... well, it'd be too big of a spoiler to specify.
 
2012-12-30 10:02:33 PM

Paris1127: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: lilistonic: Dalton kind of got ripped off.

That's ALL I'm saying. Thank you.

This.  The Living Daylights wasn't the best Bond film, but it wasn't terrible.  License to Kill, on the other hand, was Miami Vice with a British accent. My personal favorite, and don't get me wrong, I like Connery and Craig, would be  For Your Eyes Only, because it was the original down to Earth Bond film.

As for  Skyfall, I enjoyed it. Watching a Bond film requires suspension of disbelief. Despite what the film said, there is no way that James Bond was born and raised in Scotland. Of Scottish descent, sure. Highland Scottish? No. My other complaint is... well, it'd be too big of a spoiler to specify.


I couldn't stand The Living Daylights. Well, that's a bit much, but I didn't find it compelling. Probably due to the weak female lead. License to Kill had one of the best and most underrated villains, albeit an 80's stereotype.

"Launder it."
 
2012-12-30 10:07:12 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
This? Strictly bush league stuff. We're better than this.


Laughable man!

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2012-12-30 10:09:51 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: lilistonic: Dalton kind of got ripped off.

That's ALL I'm saying. Thank you.


Yep. I loved Dalton. I loved Brosnan, too. Of course I loved Connery and I loved Lazenby as well and I think Craig is beyond outstanding. I just can't get past Moore in a goddamned CLOWN OUTFIT.

/just love Bond
//but not Clown Bond
 
2012-12-30 10:11:13 PM

MrEricSir: Actually you kind of can, since he helped write that one.


Heh!

Well, PERFORMANCE-wise, I meant!


Paris1127: This. The Living Daylights wasn't the best Bond film, but it wasn't terrible. License to Kill, on the other hand, was Miami Vice with a British accent. My personal favorite, and don't get me wrong, I like Connery and Craig, would be For Your Eyes Only, because it was the original down to Earth Bond film.


I rather liked The Living Daylights, and not just for the a-ha theme song. The henchman Necros was friggin' awesome, and you know that I can't talk smack on anything with Joe Don Baker.

License to Kill was some brutal stuff, particularly for a Bond film, but it worked. Robert Davi creeped you the hell OUT.

Interesting choice for your favorite Bond film! Me, I'd PROBABLY have to go with From Russia with Love. Lots to love about that.


Paris1127: As for Skyfall, I enjoyed it. Watching a Bond film requires suspension of disbelief. Despite what the film said, there is no way that James Bond was born and raised in Scotland. Of Scottish descent, sure. Highland Scottish? No. My other complaint is... well, it'd be too big of a spoiler to specify.


Pretty much, but... that's why I love pretty much the whole series!


born_yesterday: I couldn't stand The Living Daylights. Well, that's a bit much, but I didn't find it compelling. Probably due to the weak female lead. License to Kill had one of the best and most underrated villains, albeit an 80's stereotype.

"Launder it."


Yeah, a lot of people didn't like Maryam d'Abo in The Living Daylights. I could easily see why, but she didn't really bug me too much.

License to Kill, though... oy. When Felix Leitner got fed to the shark, you KNEW Sanchez meant business.
 
2012-12-30 10:12:19 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Laughable man!

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HAHAHAHAHA


Sgt Oddball: Yep. I loved Dalton. I loved Brosnan, too. Of course I loved Connery and I loved Lazenby as well and I think Craig is beyond outstanding. I just can't get past Moore in a goddamned CLOWN OUTFIT.

/just love Bond
//but not Clown Bond


I dug just about the entirety of Octopussy, but... Bond in a clown outfit?

Just... *sigh*
 
2012-12-30 10:24:06 PM

Paris1127: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: lilistonic: Dalton kind of got ripped off.

That's ALL I'm saying. Thank you.

This.  The Living Daylights wasn't the best Bond film, but it wasn't terrible.  License to Kill, on the other hand, was Miami Vice with a British accent. My personal favorite, and don't get me wrong, I like Connery and Craig, would be  For Your Eyes Only, because it was the original down to Earth Bond film.

As for  Skyfall, I enjoyed it. Watching a Bond film requires suspension of disbelief. Despite what the film said, there is no way that James Bond was born and raised in Scotland. Of Scottish descent, sure. Highland Scottish? No. My other complaint is... well, it'd be too big of a spoiler to specify.


Oh. c'mon. It's been out for 7 weeks. Don't be a spoiler-tease.
 
2012-12-30 10:25:00 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Interesting choice for your favorite Bond film! Me, I'd PROBABLY have to go with From Russia with Love. Lots to love about that.


As far as that movie, I really liked the relationship between bond and Ali Kerim Bey. Bond was a pawn in a foreign spy network, and he knew it, and it was played well. I also liked the way Spectre played the East versus West angle.

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."
 
2012-12-30 10:27:06 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Interesting choice for your favorite Bond film! Me, I'd PROBABLY have to go with From Russia with Love. Lots to love about that.


It's my favorite non-Connery, non-Craig. It's up there with Goldeneye and The Spy Who Loved Me. The rest of the films are either "meh" or Moonraker.

John Buck 41: Oh. c'mon. It's been out for 7 weeks. Don't be a spoiler-tease.


Fine: Dumbledore dies.
 
2012-12-30 10:28:42 PM
Bear with me here, but I didn't like it. I didn't like it because I felt it was too short. Maybe I've been spoiled by good cable television, but if it was a 13hour season instead of a 2+hour movie I feel it could have dealt more in the world it was trying to create and use Javier Bardem's character a bit better. Casino Royale was a good, separate yarn, but Skyfallhad me wanting more and in its relatively short timeframe I felt it was clipped and edited.
 
2012-12-30 10:52:25 PM

born_yesterday: fatalvenom: I just want to see him actually bed Moneypenny...release it under Vivid if they had to.

I've already seen Vesper's tits in that low budget french movie anyhow.


Well, that escalated quickly!



Am I wrong?
 
2012-12-30 11:01:00 PM
Um, I think everyone attacking Subby needs to recalibrate their sarcasm detectors.
 
2012-12-30 11:05:15 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: Um, I think everyone attacking Subby needs to recalibrate their sarcasm detectors.


If I submitted this, I would have been semi-serious.  Craig is terrible.  I'll won't watch a new Bond until they get rid of him.
 
2012-12-30 11:06:23 PM

Hebalo: I had to wait a few weeks to see Skyfall, and went in, eager to see the 10 everyone had been raving about. Imagine my surprise when, around the end of the second Act, the film turned in to a Home Alone movie. What the hell were they thinking. It was a 7.5 at best. Still decent, but nothing to write home about. Craig stands and watches Dench and Badrem act circles around him, and they leave him with a 12 year old as Q.


I'm with you on that, although my initial thought as I watched it unfold was "What the hell is this, an episode of the A-Team?"

I think Craig holds his own in the acting department, though.
 
2012-12-30 11:07:33 PM

Drexl's Eye: Hebalo: I had to wait a few weeks to see Skyfall, and went in, eager to see the 10 everyone had been raving about. Imagine my surprise when, around the end of the second Act, the film turned in to a Home Alone movie. What the hell were they thinking. It was a 7.5 at best. Still decent, but nothing to write home about. Craig stands and watches Dench and Badrem act circles around him, and they leave him with a 12 year old as Q.

I'm with you on that, although my initial thought as I watched it unfold was "What the hell is this, an episode of the A-Team?"

I think Craig holds his own in the acting department, though.


If this was a Transporter movie, sure.  He's not Bond.
 
2012-12-30 11:09:22 PM
Craig even sucked in the Heineken commercial.
 
2012-12-30 11:09:27 PM
They wasted Bardem and the first two thirds of the film were good, but the last bit didn't mesh that well. I can see most people here felt them same way. Craig is a good Bond, hell I think they all were, but the problem is the story was a bit lame, same thing with QoS. Casino Royale was enjoyable but the last part of the film, in Venice I believe, felt tacked on.
 
2012-12-30 11:16:49 PM
I never had to pay $16 to see Brosnan's Bond.
 
2012-12-30 11:29:05 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: That said, Skyfall is awesome, as is Daniel Craig as Bond.


Agreed. Brosnan had his moments. But his later adventures as Bond were pure A grade poopie.
 
2012-12-31 12:10:33 AM
I always approach Bond movies in one way: do I enjoy the villain? To me, if I can't seriously enjoy the villain then the entire movie is going to suck because, well, Bond himself is just a carrier to bring the villain into the story for me. Bond sleep with girls, obeys M, blows shiat up, and drinks shiatty drinks. Yes, I think Craig is a great actor, but that doesn't save Bond as being a dull character to me.

Javier Bardem is an amazing villain. He is a terrifyingly creepy headcase that was honestly very fun to watch. It was great to see his mental instabilities just spinning everywhere and taking everyone with him (seriously, where the fark do they get all those minions!?).

I liked Skyfall. I enjoy QoS simply because I like staring at the screen and wondering wtf is going on while everything spins out of control, and I kind of liked Casino Royale just for the classic Bond feel it had going, but I think Skyfall really let Craig come into his own as Bond. He's a good actor, and this cements him as a Bond in my book.

And yes, I also enjoy a young Q. He's more than a little cliche, but sometimes it's nice to get a little fresh blood into it all. Fines will be amazing as M (he's very rarely not amazing), and Moneypenny is just fun. Overall, as long as there's not another writer's strike anytime in the future, I am really, really looking forward to the next Bond movie. Now if only Christopher Lee wasn't so old, it would be fun to have him back just trying to make the world burn.

/actually, the guy who played Moriarty on Sherlock might be a fun villain
//but playing too close to Moriarty would be a problem
/I largely just want to see Craig's Bond deal with him chewing the scenery without a care in the world
 
2012-12-31 01:41:02 AM

GAT_00: B.L.Z. Bub: Um, I think everyone attacking Subby needs to recalibrate their sarcasm detectors.

If I submitted this, I would have been semi-serious.  Craig is terrible.  I'll won't watch a new Bond until they get rid of him.


Craig is perfect and the closest to the Bond of the actual books. Your taste is questionable.
 
2012-12-31 01:44:19 AM

calbert: Skyfall was great while you were watching it. Once it's over and you start thinking about it, it doesn't hold up. And then you get mad that you were tricked into thinking that it was good.

it was enjoyable to watch.

it wasn't a good movie and it definitely wasn't a good James Bond movie.


Um... that's what all James Bond movies are like, man. Except I'm not sure why you'd be angry or assume the movies would be good in the story composition sense in the first place. None of the good ones has had a storyline that makes a single goddamned whit of sense when you think about it, because for the most part the actual, realistic motives of large-scale criminals are boring and contaminating all the gold in fort Knox is much more entertaining to watch than some sane but lame bullshiat like obtaining majority control of an area's water rights without even actually doing anything technically illegal.
 
2012-12-31 03:15:16 AM

Jim_Callahan: calbert: Skyfall was great while you were watching it. Once it's over and you start thinking about it, it doesn't hold up. And then you get mad that you were tricked into thinking that it was good.

it was enjoyable to watch.

it wasn't a good movie and it definitely wasn't a good James Bond movie.

Um... that's what all James Bond movies are like, man. Except I'm not sure why you'd be angry or assume the movies would be good in the story composition sense in the first place. None of the good ones has had a storyline that makes a single goddamned whit of sense when you think about it, because for the most part the actual, realistic motives of large-scale criminals are boring and contaminating all the gold in fort Knox is much more entertaining to watch than some sane but lame bullshiat like obtaining majority control of an area's water rights without even actually doing anything technically illegal.


Anybody that goes to a James Bond movie expecting it to have some deep meaning or serious plot is going to be sadly disappointed. If it is full of action, has some neat gadgets and stunts, a good looking scantily clad Bond Girl, some quips, a car/boat/airplane/submarine/spaceship/whatever chase and good triumphs over evil then the movie has fulfilled expectations. Going to a Bond movie is an innocent pleasure that harms no one. Don't feel angry or guilty.
 
2012-12-31 04:23:07 AM
*fade in scene*

[Opens on a hand on a glass tumbler with ice and liquid. Rack focus* to female sex object beyond the glass (*Rack focus: A Hollywood term for "Focus on her rack")]

[Reverse POV to Bond's face]

Bond: [Raises glass to mouth, drinks] Bond. James Bond. Nice to meet you, Mrs. Name-Is-A-Double-Entendre.

Sex Object: [Strips off clothing] I must have sex with you now.

Faceless Redshirt: I kill you now!

[Bond pulls out one of the Chekov's Guns given to him by Q and kills Faceless Redshirt]

Sex object: Oh, James!


OK, send me a check for my $1.75 million and residuals, thanks!
 
2012-12-31 06:02:48 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: theflatline: I can agree with all those but Craig to Bond is amazing, like Swayze to Roadhouse. I was a Moore fan until I read the books, and realized that Bond was a cold hearted bad ass.

Moore wasn't my favorite, but I enjoyed what he did. His films were enjoyable, even when they were very silly.

Octopussy has perfect amounts of silliness and excitement.


Octopussy had a few real solid points it failed to capitalize on. The opening scene in Cuba. The Beverly Hills Cop villain guy, Steven Berkoff, was wasted -- his cold, ambitious Soviet general with a plan to destabilize NATO via a smuggled nuke to an American airbase was pretty good for a Cold War era Bond story. (Bond doesn't kill either top bad guy, which is kind of weird). The Indian thugs with the razor yo-yo, the knife-throwing Soviet twins and the turban-wearing heavy were decent quality. Bond's train escapades and racing the clock through East and West Germany is underrated.

So far, it's above Moonraker and Live & Let Die. Even a middle age Bond woman in Maud Adams can work. But then we get ...

- Bond checking his watch -- and forgetting he's in a gorilla suit
- Bond's Indian helper showing off his tennis skills in a car chase
- a weak Bond villain in Louis Jordan who is so bad at being a bad guy he kills himself
- Bond doing Tarzan screams and telling a tiger to sit during a kind of ridiculous search for 007 scene, with Jordan dressing up like its an 1883 safari
- a harem of white women commandos in India who are nearly defeated if it weren't for Q crashing his balloon
- Maud Adams firing a gun while surrounded by American base personnel probably wired to kill anything at that point, which miraculously allows Bond to be released from his NATO captors in seconds and disarm the bomb instead of having his clownsuit wearing-ass dragged to the stockade
- and of course, Bond in clown suit

Personally, I prefer Connery and Dalton's Bond flicks. Brosnan did well in GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies, but the rest was dreck that made the worst of Moore's outings forgivable.

Despite the cruminess of QoS, Craig is good (I haven't seen Skyfall yet). And happy to see my personal fave FYEO is getting love in the thread.
 
2012-12-31 07:21:14 AM

calbert: Skyfall was great while you were watching it. Once it's over and you start thinking about it, it doesn't hold up. And then you get mad that you were tricked into thinking that it was good.

it was enjoyable to watch.

it wasn't a good movie and it definitely wasn't a good James Bond movie.

and for everyone who biatched that Michael Caine's foreshadowing in TDKR giving away the ending, the opening title sequence of Skyfall, which was visually awesome, gives away the whole movie. and Adele's song was painfully droning. It wasn't 'mesmerizing' or 'haunting', it was painful.

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This
 
2012-12-31 07:26:51 AM
I'd like to see all of the Bonds in the same movie while they are all still alive, but not sure how they would be able to write them all into a script. Also, I'm not seeing much love for the first and best Bond...Connery.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:09 AM
Skyfall felt like X-Men 3
 
2012-12-31 08:27:25 AM

Practical_Draconian: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: theflatline: I can agree with all those but Craig to Bond is amazing, like Swayze to Roadhouse. I was a Moore fan until I read the books, and realized that Bond was a cold hearted bad ass.

Moore wasn't my favorite, but I enjoyed what he did. His films were enjoyable, even when they were very silly.

Octopussy has perfect amounts of silliness and excitement.

Octopussy had a few real solid points it failed to capitalize on. The opening scene in Cuba. The Beverly Hills Cop villain guy, Steven Berkoff, was wasted -- his cold, ambitious Soviet general with a plan to destabilize NATO via a smuggled nuke to an American airbase was pretty good for a Cold War era Bond story. (Bond doesn't kill either top bad guy, which is kind of weird). The Indian thugs with the razor yo-yo, the knife-throwing Soviet twins and the turban-wearing heavy were decent quality. Bond's train escapades and racing the clock through East and West Germany is underrated.

So far, it's above Moonraker and Live & Let Die. Even a middle age Bond woman in Maud Adams can work. But then we get ...

- Bond checking his watch -- and forgetting he's in a gorilla suit
- Bond's Indian helper showing off his tennis skills in a car chase
- a weak Bond villain in Louis Jordan who is so bad at being a bad guy he kills himself
- Bond doing Tarzan screams and telling a tiger to sit during a kind of ridiculous search for 007 scene, with Jordan dressing up like its an 1883 safari
- a harem of white women commandos in India who are nearly defeated if it weren't for Q crashing his balloon
- Maud Adams firing a gun while surrounded by American base personnel probably wired to kill anything at that point, which miraculously allows Bond to be released from his NATO captors in seconds and disarm the bomb instead of having his clownsuit wearing-ass dragged to the stockade
- and of course, Bond in clown suit


Despite the overt silliness, OCTOPUSSY is a cut above drek like MOONRAKER and VIEW TO A KILL
because of the screenplay by George MacDonald Frasier.  I've always liked his style of dialog and his
grasp of period history, and he knows how to make absurd situations seem completely logical.
 
2012-12-31 10:21:29 AM

DjangoStonereaver: Despite the overt silliness, OCTOPUSSY is a cut above drek like MOONRAKER and VIEW TO A KILL
because of the screenplay by George MacDonald Frasier.  I've always liked his style of dialog and his
grasp of period history, and he knows how to make absurd situations seem completely logical.


THIS

Octopussy is perfectly watchable. It's only one of three Roger Moore films I like - that, For Your Eyes Only and The Spy Who Loved Me.

People bang on about Bond dressed as a clown, but come on, that's worse than Sherrif JW Pepper?
 
2012-12-31 10:23:40 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: Trolltastic headline

*ding ding ding ding*

Exactly. I wouldn't mind the trolltastic headlines if they were funny or creative.

This? Strictly bush league stuff. We're better than this.


That said, Skyfall is awesome, as is Daniel Craig as Bond. Whatever problems exist with Quantum of Solace (of which there are plenty), you *can't* fault Craig. He brings it each and every time.

Definitely better than Brosnan's Bond from my humblest of humble points of view.


I wouldn't rate Skyfall above Goldeneye but I left the theater feeling thoroughly entertained and I felt that the movie was a very kickass experience. I've read reviews here to make me think there must be another movie named Skyfall that a bunch of Farkers must be seeing instead; glad I'm not the only one who liked it.
 
2012-12-31 10:44:44 AM
The new Bond movies need more evil villains with secret underground lairs. YOLT has an army of ninjas! How can you top that? Except maybe the catfight in FRWL.

I still need to see Skyfall.
 
2012-12-31 10:44:51 AM

Practical_Draconian:
- Bond's Indian helper showing off his tennis skills in a car chase


I thought that was hilarious! What else would one of the most famous tennis players in the world (which Vijay Amritraj was at the time) use?
 
2012-12-31 10:52:49 AM

calbert: Skyfall was great while you were watching it. Once it's over and you start thinking about it, it doesn't hold up. And then you get mad that you were tricked into thinking that it was good.

it was enjoyable to watch.

it wasn't a good movie and it definitely wasn't a good James Bond movie.

and for everyone who biatched that Michael Caine's foreshadowing in TDKR giving away the ending, the opening title sequence of Skyfall, which was visually awesome, gives away the whole movie. and Adele's song was painfully droning. It wasn't 'mesmerizing' or 'haunting', it was painful.

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You've really picked up on something there haven't you. That's definitely a glaring flaw in the writing, it's certainly not a theme throughout the series.

*sarcasm detector sputters in the corner*
 
2012-12-31 11:03:28 AM
Remington Steele was the worst thing to ever happen to the Bond franchise.
 
2012-12-31 01:42:57 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
Carole Bouquet, who plays Bond girl Melina in FYEO, might be one of the absolute best Bond girls of the series.

She rocked that crossbow.


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What? There was a crossbow in it?
 
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