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2012-12-30 06:10:05 PM
I was really impressed with the job he did this year. I'd be pretty disappointed if he left.
 
2012-12-30 07:19:46 PM
something something rape joke
 
2012-12-30 07:33:37 PM
I hear skin slapping against skin.

/I'm clapping for subby, you sick bastards.
 
2012-12-30 07:55:34 PM

kxs401: I was really impressed with the job he did this year. I'd be pretty disappointed if he left.


After what he did, he really shouldn't leave.  He can go the Spurrier/Saban/Holtz route and come back whimpering, or he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now.
 
2012-12-30 07:56:28 PM
I've lost track - did he have anything to do with the Sandusky rape case?
 
2012-12-30 08:01:21 PM
Moving up only to deal with spoiled petulant 24 year olds, eh?

Better tell him that there aren't 20 of them.
 
2012-12-30 08:08:05 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I've lost track - did he have anything to do with the Sandusky rape case?


Nope. O'Brien came in after the shiat had already hit the fan and Paterno had been fired.
 
2012-12-30 08:54:24 PM
i lol'ed
 
2012-12-30 08:54:33 PM

FriarReb98: kxs401: I was really impressed with the job he did this year. I'd be pretty disappointed if he left.

After what he did, he really shouldn't leave.  He can go the Spurrier/Saban/Holtz route and come back whimpering, or he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now.


True but remember that he's from the NFL. He's probably going to be going back at some point. Might as well be now when his stock in high and he can get the big bucks.
 
2012-12-30 08:54:46 PM
Thanks mods - this is MUCH better than an SNF thread
 
2012-12-30 08:58:15 PM
Hope he stays, no real love for Penn St, they need some stability though.
 
2012-12-30 09:06:00 PM
His out, should he choose to use it, might be that he was told that the Sandusky case was a criminal matter, not an NCAA one.  Only after he signed his contract did he realize that the NCAA was going to drop the hammer on them.
 
2012-12-30 09:17:31 PM

Hillbilly Jim: Hope he stays, no real love for Penn St, they need some stability though.


Of course Penn State needs stability. The shower floor is all wet and soapy and your skin gets all pruny if you're in there for the amount of time it takes for a 60-year-old dude to get it up.
 
2012-12-30 09:17:59 PM
Better than being yelled at by Brady I suppose
 
2012-12-30 09:19:56 PM

FriarReb98: kxs401: I was really impressed with the job he did this year. I'd be pretty disappointed if he left.

After what he did, he really shouldn't leave.  He can go the Spurrier/Saban/Holtz route and come back whimpering, or he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now.


There ain't no legend to be made in Penn St. for at least until the bowl ban ends. Remember, there are a lot of people who maintain that Penn St. shouldn't even have a team at all right now and are being whiny self-entitled crybabies when they say they 'need' anything beyond a clue and a long timeout in the corner to have a serious think about what exactly they're in the higher-education business for in the first place.

If I'm O'Brien, I take the money and run and don't even think twice about it. Torch State College and run.
 
2012-12-30 09:25:17 PM
Subby is tickle me funny.
 
2012-12-30 09:39:08 PM

FriarReb98: he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now


I think all of us, and especially the children, can agree that we've had enough 'legends' from Penn State already.
 
2012-12-30 09:47:04 PM
Why would he leave a gig where there is literally almost nothing he could do that is so heinous that he would be removed for it? Football at Penn State trumps everything. EVERYTHING. The dude is a god there with carte blanche to do any and everything he wants as long as he keeps a good image up. He would be a fool to leave that job so long as the stench doesnt offend him too much.
 
2012-12-30 09:49:01 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: FriarReb98: he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now

I think all of us, and especially the children, can agree that we've had enough 'legends' from Penn State already.


Needs some 'leaders'

I wouldn't be surprised if he bolted. He's going to have a much harder time especially in 2014 and 2015 because he'll lose the JoePa upperclassmen who decided they were too far along to go through the transfer trouble and be stuck with all guys who knew there would be multiple years without bowls.
 
2012-12-30 09:52:36 PM

12349876: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: FriarReb98: he can be a legend in a place that needs a legend right now

I think all of us, and especially the children, can agree that we've had enough 'legends' from Penn State already.

Needs some 'leaders'

I wouldn't be surprised if he bolted. He's going to have a much harder time especially in 2014 and 2015 because he'll lose the JoePa upperclassmen who decided they were too far along to go through the transfer trouble and be stuck with all guys who knew there would be multiple years without bowls.


As opposed to the poor kids who will go multiple years without bowels.
 
2012-12-30 10:01:57 PM

duffblue: something something rape joke


ridelifebmx.com
 
2012-12-30 10:05:24 PM
With all the money involved, you better believe he'll be golden.
 
2012-12-30 10:29:24 PM

mikaloyd: Why would he leave a gig where there is literally almost nothing he could do that is so heinous that he would be removed for it? Football at Penn State trumps everything. EVERYTHING. The dude is a god there with carte blanche to do any and everything he wants as long as he keeps a good image up. He would be a fool to leave that job so long as the stench doesnt offend him too much.


Apparently the scrutiny over farking kids is a bit strong.
 
2012-12-30 10:39:27 PM

fatalvenom: mikaloyd: Why would he leave a gig where there is literally almost nothing he could do that is so heinous that he would be removed for it? Football at Penn State trumps everything. EVERYTHING. The dude is a god there with carte blanche to do any and everything he wants as long as he keeps a good image up. He would be a fool to leave that job so long as the stench doesnt offend him too much.

Apparently the scrutiny over farking kids is a bit strong.


Come on. Penn State only facilitated child rape for a decade, ending over a year ago. When will you let that go?
 
2012-12-30 10:40:35 PM
I assume the high-fives of the team that hires him will create a rhythmic slapping sound?
 
2012-12-30 10:41:38 PM

fatalvenom: mikaloyd: Why would he leave a gig where there is literally almost nothing he could do that is so heinous that he would be removed for it? Football at Penn State trumps everything. EVERYTHING. The dude is a god there with carte blanche to do any and everything he wants as long as he keeps a good image up. He would be a fool to leave that job so long as the stench doesnt offend him too much.

Apparently the scrutiny over farking kids is a bit strong.


He'd have to be a naive ass to not consider other offers.
 
2012-12-30 10:42:13 PM
I heard that he wasn't that good as an offensive coordinator, even though he did lead the Pats to the Super Bowl last season. That's why he was doing double duty with Josh McDaniels.

Besides, I don't think any of Belichick's former coaches have had any kind of notable success in the NFL. Why yet another one of his coaches will be given a chance in the NFL I don't understand, but good luck to O'Brien.
 
2012-12-30 10:44:19 PM

mikaloyd: Why would he leave a gig where there is literally almost nothing he could do that is so heinous that he would be removed for it? Football at Penn State trumps everything. EVERYTHING. The dude is a god there with carte blanche to do any and everything he wants as long as he keeps a good image up. He would be a fool to leave that job so long as the stench doesnt offend him too much.


Not to mention that he has one of the most secure contracts in the country. After they got the bowl ban, his 5 year contract automatically extended for another 4 years giving him a 9 year/20.7m total contract + bonuses. And I'm sure with the year he had, his agent is probably already asking to bump that yearly salary up to match what some of these other coaches have gotten this offseason.

He's not going anywhere.
 
2012-12-30 11:01:51 PM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: His out, should he choose to use it, might be that he was told that the Sandusky case was a criminal matter, not an NCAA one.  Only after he signed his contract did he realize that the NCAA was going to drop the hammer on them.


Most of this talk is speculation in terms of teams would be interested in him, not vice versa. He signed a contract extension after the NCAA sanctions came down, if memory serves, and I highly doubt anyone considering the job didn't see the writing on the wall at that point.

I fully expect that he'll go back to the NFL at some point. I don't think it'll happen after one year, particularly after hearing how he talks about the students he's working with.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, there's a $10 million buyout clause in his contract, which would dissuade a number of folks.
 
2012-12-30 11:12:54 PM

coolio mack: Not to mention that he has one of the most secure contracts in the country. After they got the bowl ban, his 5 year contract automatically extended for another 4 years giving him a 9 year/20.7m total contract + bonuses. And I'm sure with the year he had, his agent is probably already asking to bump that yearly salary up to match what some of these other coaches have gotten this offseason.

He's not going anywhere.


A secure, high-paying job at Penn State is about as desirable as 'well, I can just settle in for the next 50 years as a gong farmer. After all, anything the homeowners flush, I get to keep!'
 
2012-12-30 11:31:34 PM
Fark you subby. The good people who are currently at Penn State had nothing to do with that The person who did is currently in prison for the rest of his life. Stop trying to associate innocent people with a horrible crime.
 
2012-12-30 11:38:50 PM

Warlordtrooper: Fark you subby. The good people who are currently at Penn State had nothing to do with that The person who did is currently in prison for the rest of his life. Stop trying to associate innocent people with a horrible crime.


I wasn't aware that Curley, Spanier and McQueary were all in jail, too. My mistake.
 
2012-12-31 12:30:32 AM
And I wasn't aware that at some point, the general population of State College, PA actually valued the kids over the football program even after having found out the lengths to things were covered up in the name of football.

Seriously, how can this season possibly be thought of as some sort of 'heroic perserverance' thing? What the hell is this anyway? 'Yes, we may have covered up child rape for a decade, we may still be trying to idolize the man who covered it up in the name of football, and we may be dumping all the blame on the guy who actually went to prison so as to avoid having to take any sort of personal responsibility whatsoever or have any kind of reflective moment, and then we may have cried and whined like Brady Quinn on draft day when the NCAA actually, horror of horrors, punished the football team for it, but goshdarn it, at least the football team is still winning!'
 
2012-12-31 12:55:30 AM

Gosling: And I wasn't aware that at some point, the general population of State College, PA actually valued the kids over the football program even after having found out the lengths to things were covered up in the name of football.

Seriously, how can this season possibly be thought of as some sort of 'heroic perserverance' thing? What the hell is this anyway? 'Yes, we may have covered up child rape for a decade, we may still be trying to idolize the man who covered it up in the name of football, and we may be dumping all the blame on the guy who actually went to prison so as to avoid having to take any sort of personal responsibility whatsoever or have any kind of reflective moment, and then we may have cried and whined like Brady Quinn on draft day when the NCAA actually, horror of horrors, punished the football team for it, but goshdarn it, at least the football team is still winning!'


Calm down. Sandusky is in prison. Paterno is dead. None of the players or current coaches or fans had anything to do with the scandal.
 
2012-12-31 12:55:33 AM

Warlordtrooper: Fark you subby. The good people who are currently at Penn State had nothing to do with that The person who did is currently in prison for the rest of his life. Stop trying to associate innocent people with a horrible crime.


Subby doesn't have to try to do any associating, it's already there in the minds of almost everyone familiar with what happened. Best come to terms with it, Penn State will have that albatross hanging over them for a long, long time. It's true that not everyone employed there had any involvement or knowledge of what was going on, and it's certainly not the fault of the current or former students, but it's a stigma they're going to have to live with, and it's certainly not as bad as what those kids are going to have to deal with for the rest of their lives.
 
2012-12-31 01:05:14 AM
I was at a McDonalds and there was an old guy eating a cheeseburger and someone told me he worked at Penn State as a janitor for the last 2 months and I kicked the guys ass because Penn State is evil.

I heard the entire state of Pennsylvania is going to get exploded because we just can't have all those pedophiles-by-association walking around.

Some have even discussed shaming and then ritually burning the entire east coast and I support this because to hell with criminals I say.

/insert snarky rape joke so I can hang with the cool kids here
 
2012-12-31 01:34:24 AM

Mark Ratner: Calm down. Sandusky is in prison. Paterno is dead. None of the players or current coaches or fans had anything to do with the scandal.


The scandal was so ingrained into the institution that it will rub off on each and every person that had anything to do with the college in those years to the point where the diploma itself is losing value. And anyone in the future that decides to enroll, whether they're there for football or an agriculture degree, does so knowing full well what happened on that campus.
 
2012-12-31 01:38:04 AM

Gosling: Mark Ratner: Calm down. Sandusky is in prison. Paterno is dead. None of the players or current coaches or fans had anything to do with the scandal.

The scandal was so ingrained into the institution that it will rub off on each and every person that had anything to do with the college in those years to the point where the diploma itself is losing value. And anyone in the future that decides to enroll, whether they're there for football or an agriculture degree, does so knowing full well what happened on that campus.


Burn the campus down to the ground then.
 
2012-12-31 02:31:02 AM

Gosling: Mark Ratner: Calm down. Sandusky is in prison. Paterno is dead. None of the players or current coaches or fans had anything to do with the scandal.

The scandal was so ingrained into the institution that it will rub off on each and every person that had anything to do with the college in those years to the point where the diploma itself is losing value. And anyone in the future that decides to enroll, whether they're there for football or an agriculture degree, does so knowing full well what happened on that campus.


Not a Penn State student, but if a company ever chose not to hire me solely because I got my degree from (fairly prestigious) Penn State due to the Sandusky scandal, I really didn't want to work for that company anyway.
 
2012-12-31 02:36:19 AM

jdamaral: Not a Penn State student, but if a company ever chose not to hire me solely because I got my degree from (fairly prestigious) Penn State due to the Sandusky scandal, I really didn't want to work for that company anyway


You'll like working at WalMart. They over look child abuse as well.
 
2012-12-31 02:46:47 AM

Warlordtrooper: Fark you subby. The good people who are currently at Penn State had nothing to do with that The person who did is currently in prison for the rest of his life. Stop trying to associate innocent people with a horrible crime.


No, you're wrong. Everyone ever tangentially related to Penn State is a pedophile, and deserves everything they get. Even Bill O'Brien, who was with the Patriots when the Sandusky scandal broke, is a pedophile, and thus deserves to be at the bottom rung of every ladder FOREVER.

/This is what the vengeance vultures actually believe.
 
2012-12-31 09:19:06 AM
The terms 'coach' and 'whore' have become interchangeable
 
2012-12-31 09:26:40 AM
This thread again? He's already said that he's staying, but I suppose anyone can have their mind changed with a big enough wheelbarrow full of cash.
 
2012-12-31 09:28:50 AM

jdamaral: Not a Penn State student, but if a company ever chose not to hire me solely because I got my degree from (fairly prestigious) Penn State due to the Sandusky scandal, I really didn't want to work for that company anyway.


Penn State grad. and THIS.
 
2012-12-31 09:55:34 AM

Infobahn: jdamaral: Not a Penn State student, but if a company ever chose not to hire me solely because I got my degree from (fairly prestigious) Penn State due to the Sandusky scandal, I really didn't want to work for that company anyway

You'll like working at WalMart. They over look child abuse as well.



Wal-Mart is the place that will contact the police if you bring them bath time pictures of your baby or toddler for development and have you indicted for child porn.  So, no, they don't overlook child abuse.

/So they've got that going for them, which is nice.
 
2012-12-31 10:03:22 AM

oldsbone: Wal-Mart is the place that will contact the police if you bring them bath time pictures of your baby or toddler for development and have you indicted for child porn.  So, no, they don't overlook child abuse.

/So they've got that going for them, which is nice.


Only if the children are white. They love poor working conditions for their child laborers in other countries.
 
2012-12-31 10:08:06 AM

gimmegimme: I wasn't aware that Curley, Spanier and McQueary were all in jail, too. My mistake


Not yet.
 
2012-12-31 10:32:24 AM
With the talent pool of Western PA Coal country drying up, PSU is not that desirable of a job. It used to be you could recruit an entire team of studs out of the PA section of Appalachia. Now it is Pitt, WVU, and PSU fighting over the dwindling demographic group.

Paterno really failed at developing any ties into talent rich Ohio or anything to really give PSU a stable pipeline of recruits. For OBrien the big thing to consider is if he wants to put forth the effort to build up pipelines out of some other areas. OBrien might be smart to consider using his success at PSU to jump to a college program with more local talent. Or he has to go lock horns with Meyer, Hoke, and Kelly for the Ohio talent.
 
2012-12-31 10:57:53 AM

Warlordtrooper: The good people who are currently at Penn State had nothing to do with that The person who did is currently in prison for the rest of his life. Stop trying to associate innocent people with a horrible crime.


All that is true, but it will be 20 years before Penn State stops being a convenient punchline.
 
2012-12-31 11:03:28 AM

ha-ha-guy: With the talent pool of Western PA Coal country drying up, PSU is not that desirable of a job. It used to be you could recruit an entire team of studs out of the PA section of Appalachia. Now it is Pitt, WVU, and PSU fighting over the dwindling demographic group.

Paterno really failed at developing any ties into talent rich Ohio or anything to really give PSU a stable pipeline of recruits. For OBrien the big thing to consider is if he wants to put forth the effort to build up pipelines out of some other areas. OBrien might be smart to consider using his success at PSU to jump to a college program with more local talent. Or he has to go lock horns with Meyer, Hoke, and Kelly for the Ohio talent.


With the offense he runs, O'Brien should be able compete with any recruiter from any region if there's a recruit who wants to play in the NFL who doesn't mind not playing that one extra game per year. I'm not as familiar with their defense.
question: are individual Penn State players allowed to play in the all star / East West games and the likes?
 
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