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(BBC)   Just another day in hell, hades, sheol, gehenna, abaddon, naraka, diyu, perdition, pandemonium--or as it's more commonly known, Syria   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 23
    More: Sad, Hades, Gehenna, russian foreign minister, Abaddon, LCC, opposition groups, monopoly on violence, Di Yu  
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2012-12-30 07:11:38 PM
I have a guildie shipping out to this toilet in a couple of months. Fool better not pull an IRL Leroy Jenkins on us. Never waits for the tank. Never.
 
2012-12-30 08:41:31 PM
The envoy trying to end this civil war says that he thinks Syria will soon become another Somalia, with a collapsed central government and rule by warlords.  It's hard to argue with him.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/international-envoy-wa rn s-failed-state-syria-18095595#.UODs5aXFX-k
 
2012-12-30 09:18:24 PM
Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East 50 years ago.

What will Paris look like in 50 years?
 
2012-12-30 09:18:59 PM
Ah heck...Geography fail... that's why I should preview.
 
2012-12-30 09:20:11 PM

jake_lex: The envoy trying to end this civil war says that he thinks Syria will soon become another Somalia, with a collapsed central government and rule by warlords.  It's hard to argue with him.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/international-envoy-wa rn s-failed-state-syria-18095595#.UODs5aXFX-k


Syrians aren't black.
 
2012-12-30 09:20:40 PM
Syrian government forces have pushed rebel forces out of the Deir Baalbeh district of the city of Homs after several days of fierce fighting.

/Ya, that will happen when the rebels hide and use civilian homes for fire bases. Then when the government fires back....the rebels release vids screaming and crying how the government is targeting civilians. Yawns....same think other terrorists have done in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Don't invite fire by using civilians homes, then get butt hurt when civilians are killed. You are the ones calling the fire in.
 
2012-12-30 09:23:16 PM

phrawgh: jake_lex: The envoy trying to end this civil war says that he thinks Syria will soon become another Somalia, with a collapsed central government and rule by warlords.  It's hard to argue with him.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/international-envoy-wa rn s-failed-state-syria-18095595#.UODs5aXFX-k

Syrians aren't black.


/No, they aren't but i can see it dissolving into a Islamic fundamentalist theocracy. That would be just as bad, and would be next on our list to attack.
 
2012-12-30 09:26:00 PM
You forgot Mictlan subby.

/ Seriously, it's getting all Aztec up in there.
 
2012-12-30 09:27:39 PM
Syria is one of the oldest nations on earth, and has the oldest continually inhabited city (Damascus) in the world.

I have a theory. The Middle East is the so-called "Cradle of Civilization" because it's where, well, civilization was invented. Humans have lived in fixed dwellings there for the longest time, and not surprisingly, it's got the most degraded environment in the world as well. Civilization started there about 10,000 years ago. Should we be at all surprised that it's the Middle East where civilization seems to be falling totally and irrevocably apart right now?

We're just watching the end of the world. Only it's not going to be fast and all-encompassing, it's just going to be a series of slow-motion mini-apocalypses as one culture after another self-immolates. Starting right there in the Fertile Crescent: Israel, Syria, Iraq, Iran....down they go. Maybe that's about how long things take to run their course.
 
2012-12-30 09:28:03 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Don't invite fire by using civilians homes, then get butt hurt when civilians are killed. You are the ones calling the fire in.


Yes because I soooooo totally trust the Syrian government.
 
2012-12-30 09:30:40 PM

A Terrible Human: Bit'O'Gristle: Don't invite fire by using civilians homes, then get butt hurt when civilians are killed. You are the ones calling the fire in.

Yes because I soooooo totally trust the Syrian government.


/LOL...i didn't say i trust them, both sides are equally retarded. Just saying enough with the WHAAAMMBULANCE vids from the FSA. They call in fire in residential areas by firing from them, then try to garner sympathy by propaganda. Both sides are equally bad.
 
2012-12-30 09:46:46 PM
the underlying problem in this region that the Romans called the Leventine is that there are more people than the land can maintain. Up until the 19th C the local population remained lower than the starvation threshold, but in the past two hundred years the population in Syria has gone from 2 million to 20 million. Although modern agriculture has somewhat eased the problem they still have a finite amount of water and the ability to harvest fish from the Mediterainian is in extreme decline. The surrounding countries are all overpopulated, one destroyed by the US, the others filled with refugies.

It's just going to get worse.
 
2012-12-30 09:56:27 PM

Mrbogey: Beirut was the Paris of the Middle East 50 years ago.

What will Paris look like in 50 years?


Baghdad
 
2012-12-30 09:57:51 PM
Fleet Admiral Shaunty: The Syrian civil war is by definition an internal matter of the Syrian Empire.

Captain Picard: Yes. But if the Syrians are being aided by the Romulans it becomes very much our concern. The Romulans have been willing to take enormous risks to gain a foothold in the Syrian Empire. Can we really believe that now with the future of the Syrian-Federation alliance hanging in the balance, they are willing to sit back and do nothing?

Fleet Admiral Shaunty:  What is it you propose, Captain?

Captain Picard:  What I propose is this.  We take a fleet of starships to the Syrian/Romulan border. We will take no offensive action, but we will be in a position to monitor the actions of the Romulans. My chief engineer has come up with a way to nullify the Romulan cloaking shields.
 
R3
2012-12-30 10:19:33 PM
Been following this for the last couple of months, and one question keeps popping up: were there any warning signs? Like, did WH ever get a memo couple of years ago from CIA saying: "Keep an eye on that Assad dude, if he ever loses his grip on power he will start murdering his own people with everything he got..."

Somehow I can't believe this just kind of slipped through the cracks.
 
2012-12-30 11:11:05 PM
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NL22Ak03.html

alternat view
 
2012-12-30 11:12:13 PM

R3: Been following this for the last couple of months, and one question keeps popping up: were there any warning signs? Like, did WH ever get a memo couple of years ago from CIA saying: "Keep an eye on that Assad dude, if he ever loses his grip on power he will start murdering his own people with everything he got..."

Somehow I can't believe this just kind of slipped through the cracks.


I would wager the WH knew about it from intel, but didn't concern themselves with it. Russia is their closest ally and unless they started lobbing mortars into Israel or something that became relevant to our "interests" they probably just shrugged their shoulders and chose to ignore it.

/personally, I think something big will kick off in January sometime that will have people asking Obama when the US is going to help the resistance movement.
 
2012-12-31 12:04:22 AM
There is no happy ending for Syria. Thanks to China and Russia this event couldn't be 'nipped in the bud'. Instead there are fringe elements waiting to claim their share of Syria for Islam and themselves.

Can't tell who's the good guys here.
 
2012-12-31 02:51:53 AM
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Some folks call it hell, I call it hades.

/hot, like perdition's flames
 
2012-12-31 05:54:41 AM
Abaddon?
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2012-12-31 06:35:07 AM

Gyrfalcon: Syria is one of the oldest nations on earth, and has the oldest continually inhabited city (Damascus) in the world.

I have a theory. The Middle East is the so-called "Cradle of Civilization" because it's where, well, civilization was invented. Humans have lived in fixed dwellings there for the longest time, and not surprisingly, it's got the most degraded environment in the world as well. Civilization started there about 10,000 years ago. Should we be at all surprised that it's the Middle East where civilization seems to be falling totally and irrevocably apart right now?

We're just watching the end of the world. Only it's not going to be fast and all-encompassing, it's just going to be a series of slow-motion mini-apocalypses as one culture after another self-immolates. Starting right there in the Fertile Crescent: Israel, Syria, Iraq, Iran....down they go. Maybe that's about how long things take to run their course.


Don't be an idiot. Thousands of civilizations have already collapsed. We're still fine.

The Middle East is just the shiat hole now. Once upon a few hundred years ago the Americas were the battlefield and the Middle East was comfortable and prosperous.
 
2012-12-31 09:00:36 AM
Ah heck...Geography fail... that's why I should preview.


No, as far as Syria is concerned, Lebanon is a Syrian province.
 
2012-12-31 09:13:23 AM

Skail: Abaddon?
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Hey, if the first 13 tries to topple the Empire don't work, just wait around for #14...


/own over 10,000 points (by 4-5th edition reckoning) of Chaos yet never owned Captain TopKnot.
 
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