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2012-12-30 12:53:31 PM
GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.
 
2012-12-30 01:45:13 PM

UNC_Samurai: GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.


History repeats itself. "Phat" PS3's are dead or dying because of tin solder wiskers and a very under-engineered heat dissipation system. They can get up to 90-100C, pop the top and it's all crappy aluminum heat sinks with a tiny bit of copper and one huge fan. Burn baby, burn!

The slims are much better designed, and run much, much cooler. But if you have a Phat, the first good trade in deal you see, do it. Went through two Phats before I wised up. Luckily I traded in my working YLOD unit and grabbed a slim for a nice $100 instead of $350.
 
2012-12-30 01:45:37 PM
The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever.  In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live.  Wow.  What a lineup.  We're moving Xbox into the future.  Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows.  Allow me to demonstrate.  Xbox.  Xbox Bing.  Movies.  Harry Potter.  Play movie.  Confirm.  Wow.  How amazing like that?  It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.
 
2012-12-30 02:02:04 PM

Mike_LowELL: The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever.  In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live.  Wow.  What a lineup.  We're moving Xbox into the future.  Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows.  Allow me to demonstrate.  Xbox.  Xbox Bing.  Movies.  Harry Potter.  Play movie.  Confirm.  Wow.  How amazing like that?  It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.


Nice.
 
2012-12-30 02:09:15 PM
Ps2 ain't got shiat on the nes. The weird shoebox nes was shiat though.

Nintendo didn't want to have their console associated with Atari 2600 so they went with a design that was prone to breakage.

And that's why marketing divisions should not design the product.
 
2012-12-30 02:16:33 PM
around the same time as the psp vita then
 
2012-12-30 02:19:29 PM

Mike_LowELL: The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever.  In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live.  Wow.  What a lineup.  We're moving Xbox into the future.  Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows.  Allow me to demonstrate.  Xbox.  Xbox Bing.  Movies.  Harry Potter.  Play movie.  Confirm.  Wow.  How amazing like that?  It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.


I almost bit on this one. I am not proud.
/Don't FARK while sick!
 
2012-12-30 02:35:00 PM

TyrantII: UNC_Samurai: GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.

History repeats itself. "Phat" PS3's are dead or dying because of tin solder wiskers and a very under-engineered heat dissipation system. They can get up to 90-100C, pop the top and it's all crappy aluminum heat sinks with a tiny bit of copper and one huge fan. Burn baby, burn!

The slims are much better designed, and run much, much cooler. But if you have a Phat, the first good trade in deal you see, do it. Went through two Phats before I wised up. Luckily I traded in my working YLOD unit and grabbed a slim for a nice $100 instead of $350.


I have a launch 20GB PS3 that is still running. Eventually it will YLOD, and I'll pay to get it fixed, because I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.
 
2012-12-30 02:37:31 PM
I sold mine after the Veiwtiful Joe demo ate my memory card. 100% Gran Turismo 3 save into the ether. :(
 
2012-12-30 02:39:20 PM
It's not quite entirely dead yet.

cdn0.spong.com
 
2012-12-30 03:23:14 PM
I have 2 original PS2 consoles that refuse to die. Even after leaving them on pause for days on end and using them as my DVD player. I refuse to upgrade. In fact, I just bought Bully and Manhunt last week.

/Got a little tired of Vice City, Madden 2004 and MLB 2006.
 
2012-12-30 03:28:37 PM
Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.
 
2012-12-30 03:30:15 PM

devilskware: I have 2 original PS2 consoles that refuse to die


I've got one as well. As long as it still works, I don't see a need to buy another console (most of my gaming is PC, only things I do on console are fighting (MK, SC, DBZ, etc) and racing (Need for Speed).
 
2012-12-30 04:16:49 PM
Yes, the fat PS3's are awful. We actually went through the trouble of taking it apart TWICE to do the whole process where you heat the processor with a heat gun to re-solder it (Cant remember what the term is for doing it). Both times, would last about a month and a half and then that farking yellow light again.

The first time we didn't mind cause it was already broken and wanted to see if we could do it so it was a neat learning experience. The second time we realized just how big a pain in the ass it is to do and the novelty had worn off. The last time that yellow light came on, we said fark it and smashed it office space style
 
2012-12-30 04:18:28 PM
I love my PS2. It's my third or fourth one, but if it were to die, I would still want a replacement.

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Plus, it plays PS games, and while I only have about half a dozen, they all get replayed once every few years (except FF7 - the blocky "graphics" kill the game for me). You can pry FFIX from my cold, dead hands!
 
2012-12-30 04:34:44 PM
Was that article actually trying to slam the PS3? i guess even article writers can troll.
 
2012-12-30 04:38:20 PM
Still have a PS2 hooked up in the living room now.  Great machine.
 
2012-12-30 04:49:34 PM

Banacek: I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.


This.

If the PS4 were backward compatible through "2", I'd get one. Otherwise, fark you, Sony.
 
2012-12-30 05:04:58 PM

UNC_Samurai: GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.


I have a day 1 PS2 that is still working like a charm as my backup dvd player in a second bedroom. My xbox 360, however, is a pile of non-functioning electronics in a closet somewhere. Little too much luck on the PS2 and not enough on the Xbox, I suppose.
 
2012-12-30 05:21:01 PM
we still play PS2. It has so many fun games, it's just an all-around good system. I just old off all my Wii stuff (I'm not 8 years old) but keep the PS2 going.  I was only using the Wii to stream Netflix, and I canceled that because any time I wanted to stream something, it wasn't available as streaming, anyway.   But the PS2, that thing is awesome.
 
2012-12-30 05:27:29 PM

Banacek: I have a launch 20GB PS3 that is still running. Eventually it will YLOD, and I'll pay to get it fixed, because I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.


i have a fat 60, had to replace the optical drive, everything else works like a charm, worth every penny

here's to another 10 years!

*cheers*

i do wish the new dualshock 3 controllers were as durable as the old 2s :(

of course if Sony keeps cutting corners, we'll have to cut their nuts off, but until then, best console line ever!

looking forward to the next gen
 
2012-12-30 05:29:53 PM

devilskware: I have 2 original PS2 consoles that refuse to die. Even after leaving them on pause for days on end and using them as my DVD player. I refuse to upgrade. In fact, I just bought Bully and Manhunt last week.

/Got a little tired of Vice City, Madden 2004 and MLB 2006.


It took being left on 24/7 for who knows how many months in a dank basement by my brother after I gave it to him to finally kill my launch day PS2 back in 2009. Ten years from now those things will probably still be running.
 
2012-12-30 05:39:27 PM

serpent_sky: we still play PS2. It has so many fun games, it's just an all-around good system. I just old off all my Wii stuff (I'm not 8 years old) but keep the PS2 going.  I was only using the Wii to stream Netflix, and I canceled that because any time I wanted to stream something, it wasn't available as streaming, anyway.   But the PS2, that thing is awesome.


Haven't sold my Wii mainly for virtual console games and want to play a LOT of Skyward Sword, but other than that, that thing is getting traded in, especially if I get a Wii U. Replaced my PS1 with a PS2 though, would get a PS3 if i can find a PS2 compatible model that still works, and for cheaper as well.

\Also has Atari, SNES, Dreamcast, Saturn, N64, Xbox 360 and Sega Genesis/32X/CD
 
2012-12-30 06:10:18 PM
R.I.P., last machine that hosted a plethora of JRPGs.
 
2012-12-30 06:16:11 PM
guidesmedia.ign.com

The best PS2 game, Killer 7
 
2012-12-30 06:21:03 PM

Counter_Intelligent: R.I.P., last machine that hosted a plethora of JRPGs.


Nintendo DS. Thank me later.
 
2012-12-30 06:36:55 PM
My Xbox360 just red lighted. the lower right corner of the circle thingie. Now i have to go out and by a new DVD player. I heard it could play video games but I didn't own any. DVD's and linking to my music server was it's only purpose.
 
2012-12-30 06:48:01 PM

Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.


The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.
 
2012-12-30 06:53:15 PM
Thanks for reminding me that I still have about 20 PS2 games I haven't even played yet.
 
2012-12-30 07:12:17 PM
I use my PS2 just to play Espn NFL 2k5 and MVP baseball 2005, both of which are the some of best sports games ever.
 
2012-12-30 07:18:46 PM
The PS2 has given me years of entertainment. Such an amazing game selection. Only the SNES gets more love in my eyes overall.

I must have done something right in a past life because I have the first gen PS2 and it still works (at least until last year when I put it in storage).
 
2012-12-30 07:22:13 PM

Mike_LowELL: The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever.  In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live.  Wow.  What a lineup.  We're moving Xbox into the future.  Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows.  Allow me to demonstrate.  Xbox.  Xbox Bing.  Movies.  Harry Potter.  Play movie.  Confirm.  Wow.  How amazing like that?  It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.


This is the reason I joined Fark all those years ago. Fark needs more of this man/woman.
 
2012-12-30 07:58:27 PM

UNC_Samurai: Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.


Kinect actually has been the better investment for them. Cheap to make, popular, and instantaneously profitable. Question really is, after having to put away $3 Billion to (do the right thing) and cover RROD's, can we say they're in the black? Not that it matters, as shareholders don't seem to be worried.

Sony should have done the same thing, but they won't (nor couldn't) eat a loss like that. In fact, the playstation brand / division was the only thing profitable in the entire company last quarter, and they moved it under they home electronics division to make their LCD losses look better.
 
2012-12-30 08:36:14 PM

UNC_Samurai: *Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.


LOL. I used to "repair" these. 10 min. with a screwdriver and they worked good as new. Got a few free ones by people tossing them out.
 
2012-12-30 08:47:09 PM

TyrantII: UNC_Samurai: Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.

Kinect actually has been the better investment for them. Cheap to make, popular, and instantaneously profitable. Question really is, after having to put away $3 Billion to (do the right thing) and cover RROD's, can we say they're in the black? Not that it matters, as shareholders don't seem to be worried.

Sony should have done the same thing, but they won't (nor couldn't) eat a loss like that. In fact, the playstation brand / division was the only thing profitable in the entire company last quarter, and they moved it under they home electronics division to make their LCD losses look better.


You're right about Sony, but remember: Kinect doesn't exist without Microsoft taking the hit to get into the console market in the first place.
 
2012-12-30 08:49:18 PM

ArcadianRefugee: If the PS4 were backward compatible through "2", I'd get one. Otherwise, fark you, Sony.



ゲラゲラゲラゲラ
(hahahahaha)


Yeah. I'm going to just keep my fat PS3. I have no intention of repurchasing games via PlayStation Store. Ever.
 
2012-12-30 08:53:25 PM
Yay, I can finally retire the ps2 developer support website. One less thing to worry about.
 
2012-12-30 09:00:53 PM
R.I.P. turn based RPG machine, I pour out some malt liquor in your honor.

/*tilt*
 
2012-12-30 09:05:04 PM

Mike_LowELL: The PlayStation 2 was the worst system ever.  In my opinion, the top-rated systems are:

1) Xbox 360 with Kinect, which brings interactive entertainment into my home like no other, whether I'm searching for cooking recipes with Bing, watching Gangnam Style on YouTube, talking to my friends on Facebook, or playing Call of Duty: Black Ops II on Xbox Live.  Wow.  What a lineup.  We're moving Xbox into the future.  Soon, you'll be able to follow along with all your favorite television shows, movies, and games by using SmartGlass, a revolutionary new way to watch your favorite shows.  Allow me to demonstrate.  Xbox.  Xbox Bing.  Movies.  Harry Potter.  Play movie.  Confirm.  Wow.  How amazing like that?  It's experiences like these that will make Microsoft products the forerunner of home entertainment.


i621.photobucket.com

Nothing more to add.
 
2012-12-30 09:06:45 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Banacek: I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.

This.

If the PS4 were backward compatible through "2", I'd get one. Otherwise, fark you, Sony.


So much farking this. If Sony tries to even play that BS about "why would you want to play PS2 games on your new PS4" crap....cya Sony, I'll switch to the nextgen XBox in a heartbeat.
 
2012-12-30 09:07:10 PM
Does this mean that Sony will put backwards compatibility back into the PS3? One of the reasons why they took it out was because with the price cut, it would be about the same cost to buy both a PS3 and PS2 as it would be to buy a backwards compatible PS3 pre price cut.
 
2012-12-30 09:09:16 PM

Swoop1809: I use my PS2 just to play Espn NFL 2k5 and MVP baseball 2005, both of which are the some of best sports games ever.


Espeically MVP Baseball 2005, the best baseball game ever. Sorry fans of "The Show" and the MLB2K series, but neither of them have come close to the fun and challenge MVP Baseball had.
 
2012-12-30 10:03:06 PM

Relatively Obscure: Still have a PS2 hooked up in the living room now.  Great machine.


This. The wife and I still play ours, and we'll continue to do so until it dies, and then I'll have to find a new one. It's a great system, and my favorite right after the SNES. (Which I also have and still play.)
 
2012-12-30 10:05:47 PM

razyjean: I love my PS2. It's my third or fourth one, but if it were to die, I would still want a replacement.



Plus, it plays PS games, and while I only have about half a dozen, they all get replayed once every few years (except FF7 - the blocky "graphics" kill the game for me). You can pry FFIX from my cold, dead hands!


Great collector. The ps 2 and snes are king shiat of fark mountain
 
2012-12-30 10:09:23 PM

El Morro: The PS2 has given me years of entertainment. Such an amazing game selection. Only the SNES gets more love in my eyes overall.

I must have done something right in a past life because I have the first gen PS2 and it still works (at least until last year when I put it in storage).


Same. My is a little loud noe though. I think not using it as a DVD player is the key. Or keeping bit in its side.
 
2012-12-30 10:12:32 PM

Stinkyy: The best PS2 game, Killer 7


WRONG!!!

Simpsons Hit n' Run was the best PS2 game
 
2012-12-30 10:17:37 PM
I regret selling my PS2. I have as many crappy games for PS3 as I had good games for PS2.

I only use it for netflix and as a media server, which it's pretty damn poor at. Plus 90% of PS3 games are third-person-hold-forward action games.
 
2012-12-30 10:30:33 PM

moothemagiccow: I regret selling my PS2. I have as many crappy games for PS3 as I had good games for PS2.

I only use it for netflix and as a media server, which it's pretty damn poor at. Plus 90% of PS3 games are third-person-hold-forward action games.


It's one of the unfortunate things about the ever-increasing cost of producing traditional disc-to-store titles: When every game is $40-$60, you lose instances of developers taking a chance on games.
 
2012-12-30 11:33:40 PM

UNC_Samurai: GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.


I still have my original PS2. Works fine.
 
2012-12-31 12:13:27 AM

Stinkyy: [guidesmedia.ign.com image 590x314]

The best PS2/Gamecube game, Killer 7


there ya go
 
2012-12-31 12:18:12 AM
A friend of mine gave me his PS2 a few months ago, because he was tired of it. We cleaned it up and gave it to the kids for Christmas. Amazingly, my wife was able to find a new copy of Katamari Damacy. The kids love that game.

One of the games my kids and I tried to play complained there was no space on the memory card. I assumed there were a bunch of saved games left by my friend, so I went into the setup to delete them. Instead, there were a bunch of questionable pictures (from Leisure Suit Larry, I think).
 
2012-12-31 01:04:35 AM
On about my fourth ps2 slim now. I keep it in a grocery bag with GTA San Andreas. About once a year, I boot it up and play my through that game. Plan on doing that forever. I liked Red Dead Redemption and Gran Turismo 5 on my ps3, but mostly I use it for watching movies and TV from Amazon. In my opinion, Amazon offers the best content, and it's easy to play it through the ps3. But, will always have a ps2 for San Andreas. Maybe I'll go buy a couple of backups PS2s used.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:01 AM

Banacek: I have a launch 20GB PS3 that is still running. Eventually it will YLOD, and I'll pay to get it fixed, because I really like having a PS3 that plays PS2 games.


My brother paid to get his fixed. Had the original model that my entire family pooled like $500 to get him. I need to load up FF7 on that thing one of these days
 
2012-12-31 01:47:08 AM

American Decency Association: Stinkyy: [guidesmedia.ign.com image 590x314]

The best PS2/Gamecube game, Killer 7

there ya go


It's so damned obscure, I thank my lucky stars someone else has heard of it. Respect.
 
2012-12-31 04:49:21 AM
PS2 > PS3
GC > Wii
X-Box = shiat, X-Box 360 = shiat - Perfect Dark re-release.

All I use my 360 for is Perfect Dark.

All I use my Wii for is playing Gamecube games--I even hacked it, hoping that would get me to use it more since I could do more stuff with it, but no, the homebrew is all ass and even with the ability to pirate any game I want I still don't care enough to play them.

My PS3 mostly gets used for Netflix and Bluray.

PC's been getting a workout lately. PC games are in the middle of a goddamn renaissance. I feel spoiled by how much good shiat we're getting.

Godspeed, PS2. You were the king of single-player games of your generation, and a contender for best ever in that category. We will remember you fondly.

/ I kind of hate this console generation.
// Aside from a handful of titles, everything I want to play is on the handhelds, and I don't like handhelds.
/// Holding out hope the WiiU will eventually let my play a substantial fraction of the DS library on a TV.
/\ In the mean time, emulation, I guess. *sigh*
 
2012-12-31 08:26:01 AM
I love my PS3 and loved my cheap little PS2 (peaked at The Show 06 and SotC for me)
 
2012-12-31 09:58:18 AM

UNC_Samurai: GOOD farkING RIDDANCE!!!*

*Please note: This is intended solely for the 30000 and 35000 "Fat PS2 models". Your stupid farking screw assembly on the laser meant the machine had an almost 100% failure rate, Sony. I can't tell you how many people brought those things into my store (ran an EB/Gamestop in 2005-07). It didn't matter if it came back from the company HQ as a "refurb" - 30k and 35k models went straight in the defective pile. It was always the same story - After a few weeks, PS2 games wouldn't read. Then DVDs. Then finally PS1 games wouldn't read.

The "Slim" PS2s - 50000 and up - were gorgeous, however. I just wish they'd figured out a way to connect a hard drive to the slim model.

Thankfully, we'll never have to worry about retarded memory cards ever again.


Launch 30001 model still going.
 
2012-12-31 10:14:56 AM
Na, nananananana...

www.diabolicalplots.com

There. Now try to get that song out of your head.
 
2012-12-31 10:36:46 AM

TyrantII: UNC_Samurai: Nem Wan: Microsoft pretty firmly ended the original Xbox with a year of the 360 coming out, while Sony let the PS2 go on and on. Xbox never got to 25 million units is why. Today over 150 million PS2s have been sold, more than 360 and PS3 combined.

The original Xbox was always going to be a sunk cost. Microsoft took a loss knowing they would be able to improve and put out a next-generation console. Considering how well they've sold the Xbox, it was a wise investment.

Kinect actually has been the better investment for them. Cheap to make, popular, and instantaneously profitable. Question really is, after having to put away $3 Billion to (do the right thing) and cover RROD's, can we say they're in the black? Not that it matters, as shareholders don't seem to be worried.

Sony should have done the same thing, but they won't (nor couldn't) eat a loss like that. In fact, the playstation brand / division was the only thing profitable in the entire company last quarter, and they moved it under they home electronics division to make their LCD losses look better.


Both companies are vastly different. Microsoft's OS division basically prints money, so their Entertainment division being in the hole hardly matters at all to them. Sony's Playstation division is their flagship now while everything else tanked, so they're in a much tougher position to make profits.
 
2012-12-31 11:22:39 AM

endosymbiont: On about my fourth ps2 slim now. I keep it in a grocery bag with GTA San Andreas. About once a year, I boot it up and play my through that game. Plan on doing that forever. I liked Red Dead Redemption and Gran Turismo 5 on my ps3, but mostly I use it for watching movies and TV from Amazon. In my opinion, Amazon offers the best content, and it's easy to play it through the ps3. But, will always have a ps2 for San Andreas. Maybe I'll go buy a couple of backups PS2s used.


stop playing San Andreas on PS2. PLEASE. Go get the pc version, get a good pc gamepad that you are comfortable with, and play it on your pc. It is so vastly superior to the PS2 version that I can't believe that there are still people that WANT to play it on PS2.

/San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. The California "gang-banger" crap was a poor substitute for the mafia stories, the body building and eating aspects were time consuming and pointless, the world, while large, was mostly empty and dead, the missions were either easy as pie or insanely hair pullingly pants shiattingly difficult. I load it up and play around with it around once a year, and then remember all of its many shortcomings and uninstall it. It just really isn't that much fun to play anymore.
 
2012-12-31 11:32:40 AM
All this ps vs xbox vs misc in this thread is funny. Fact is, both companies screw(ed) people with their shoddy consoles, and if you really wanted to do something about it you'd buy your video games on PC.

/better graphics.
//better controls.
///better support.
////not forced to re-buy re-releases.
//less locked down from a proprietary system.
//I could keep going if i wasn't hitting peak slashies here.
 
2012-12-31 11:37:02 AM

Dr. Goldshnoz: All this ps vs xbox vs misc in this thread is funny. Fact is, both companies screw(ed) people with their shoddy consoles, and if you really wanted to do something about it you'd buy your video games on PC.

/better graphics.
//better controls.
///better support.
////not forced to re-buy re-releases.
//less locked down from a proprietary system.
//I could keep going if i wasn't hitting peak slashies here.


I agree with all of this; sadly the idiots at the likes of EA, et. al. are all on the "MUST BE ON CONSOLES~!" kick.
 
2012-12-31 11:48:30 AM

frepnog: /San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. The California "gang-banger" crap was a poor substitute for the mafia stories, the body building and eating aspects were time consuming and pointless, the world, while large, was mostly empty and dead, the missions were either easy as pie or insanely hair pullingly pants shiattingly difficult. I load it up and play around with it around once a year, and then remember all of its many shortcomings and uninstall it. It just really isn't that much fun to play anymore


Disagree. As someone who grew up on the west coast in the 90s, San Andreas captured that decade as well as it spoofed the 80s in Vice City. There wasn't much of a mafia story in GTA3 as much as there was a story of revenge that wasn't really all that well developed, and the story of Vice City was in many ways just Scarface. The 'gang-banger' crap as you put it was a perfect parody of the culture and a better story than the mafia ones. The world was filled with an insane amount of activities to do, and the missions were some of the most memorable and varied of the entire franchise, including GTAIV (the dam, the casino break in, burning pot fields, etc)

The aiming system hasn't aged well at all, but I still find it fun to play.
 
2012-12-31 11:54:30 AM

frepnog: endosymbiont: On about my fourth ps2 slim now. I keep it in a grocery bag with GTA San Andreas. About once a year, I boot it up and play my through that game. ...

stop playing San Andreas on PS2. PLEASE. Go get the pc version, get a good pc gamepad that you are comfortable with, and play it on your pc. It is so vastly superior to the PS2 version that I can't believe that there are still people that WANT to play it on PS2.

/San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. ...


I've never played games on a PC. How much PC does one need? would a typical laptop work, like a Toshiba Portege with an i3 processor? Right now I'm using a Dell Latitude D630 from 2007 with an Intel Core 2 duo. Would that be good enough?

I guess I'm asking anyone who's reading this. Is it worth buying a dedicated tower PC for games? I only own laptops now (a main one, a couple of old beaters, a netbook) and they seem to be slowly migrating to Linux mint.

For games like GTA, are the keyboard controls easy enough/ good enough? Do they make a playstation-style controller for the PC?

For PC games, do you use a tv? LIke HDMI to a typical 42 inch tv? Or should you stick to the computer monitor?

Incidentally frepnog, I get what you're saying about the GTA games. One of the reasons I like SA over 3 and VC is that the L joystick lets you look around in all circumstances, whereas in those other games, in many circumtances, your perspective was fixed. Also, the graphics were a little better. Finally, the biggest failing of VC was that the cops would shoot your tires out way too easily/ frequently, and that just really dragged the game down for me. Maybe I'll go back and play through GTA 3 for old time's sake.
 
2012-12-31 12:07:39 PM
The Vita was dead or arrival.
 
2012-12-31 12:58:03 PM

endosymbiont: frepnog: endosymbiont: On about my fourth ps2 slim now. I keep it in a grocery bag with GTA San Andreas. About once a year, I boot it up and play my through that game. ...

stop playing San Andreas on PS2. PLEASE. Go get the pc version, get a good pc gamepad that you are comfortable with, and play it on your pc. It is so vastly superior to the PS2 version that I can't believe that there are still people that WANT to play it on PS2.

/San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. ...

I've never played games on a PC. How much PC does one need? would a typical laptop work, like a Toshiba Portege with an i3 processor? Right now I'm using a Dell Latitude D630 from 2007 with an Intel Core 2 duo. Would that be good enough?

I guess I'm asking anyone who's reading this. Is it worth buying a dedicated tower PC for games? I only own laptops now (a main one, a couple of old beaters, a netbook) and they seem to be slowly migrating to Linux mint.

For games like GTA, are the keyboard controls easy enough/ good enough? Do they make a playstation-style controller for the PC?

For PC games, do you use a tv? LIke HDMI to a typical 42 inch tv? Or should you stick to the computer monitor?

Incidentally frepnog, I get what you're saying about the GTA games. One of the reasons I like SA over 3 and VC is that the L joystick lets you look around in all circumstances, whereas in those other games, in many circumtances, your perspective was fixed. Also, the graphics were a little better. Finally, the biggest failing of VC was that the cops would shoot your tires out way too easily/ frequently, and that just really dragged the game down for me. Maybe I'll go back and play through GTA 3 for old time's sake.


the old gta games don't need that powerful of a pc actually, damn near any modern pc will run the shiat out of them, and if you want a gamepad that "just works" the XBOX360 pad works perfectly. I currently play my pc games on a 42 inch flat panel HD lcd tv. it rocks for games. I get you on the control issues over the earlier games and also about the cops in Vice City. I wouldn't recommend playing thru GTA3 again however. The game just doesn't hold up, even next to San Andreas and to a lesser extent VC. The main reason I recommend playing SA on PC over PS3 is mostly just a resolution and loading thing - you can play it in insanely hi-res and the loading times are just non-existent.

Honestly tho, after playing modern sand-box games, I just can't go back to the older games for much more than a few minutes tho. Graphics aside, the physics in the old games just wreck them for me. It was ok at the time, but tech has moved on. The old GTA games to me are alot like Goldeneye on the N64 - seemed awesome at the time but going back now is just farking HARD because now you can see all the faults that you overlooked the first time. After playing GTA4 and some of the other modern games (Saint's Row series, Crackdown, Prototype, any modern game that gives you a city to roam) going back to SA or VC is just damned hard to enjoy because the worlds are so sterile and dead. Meh, YMMV i suppose. Just my 2 cents.
 
2012-12-31 01:02:38 PM

endosymbiont: For games like GTA, are the keyboard controls easy enough/ good enough? Do they make a playstation-style controller for the PC?


actually with mouse aim, the game is much easier.
 
2012-12-31 01:28:41 PM
You can have my modded PS2 when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
 
2012-12-31 02:03:32 PM

Stinkyy: American Decency Association: Stinkyy: [guidesmedia.ign.com image 590x314]

The best PS2/Gamecube game, Killer 7

there ya go

It's so damned obscure, I thank my lucky stars someone else has heard of it. Respect.


hah, same to you. and it was a damn hard title to find also!
 
2012-12-31 02:06:20 PM

Lumbar Puncture: frepnog: /San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. The California "gang-banger" crap was a poor substitute for the mafia stories, the body building and eating aspects were time consuming and pointless, the world, while large, was mostly empty and dead, the missions were either easy as pie or insanely hair pullingly pants shiattingly difficult. I load it up and play around with it around once a year, and then remember all of its many shortcomings and uninstall it. It just really isn't that much fun to play anymore

Disagree. As someone who grew up on the west coast in the 90s, San Andreas captured that decade as well as it spoofed the 80s in Vice City. There wasn't much of a mafia story in GTA3 as much as there was a story of revenge that wasn't really all that well developed, and the story of Vice City was in many ways just Scarface. The 'gang-banger' crap as you put it was a perfect parody of the culture and a better story than the mafia ones. The world was filled with an insane amount of activities to do, and the missions were some of the most memorable and varied of the entire franchise, including GTAIV (the dam, the casino break in, burning pot fields, etc)

The aiming system hasn't aged well at all, but I still find it fun to play.


if GTA had the mechanics of CoD combined with Forza, ya might have a hot little number
 
2012-12-31 02:34:04 PM
Dreamcast is still the best system ever made.
 
2012-12-31 03:00:12 PM

SuburbanCowboy: Dreamcast is still the best system ever made.


nah. I love my dreamcast (was playing Shenmue and MVC2 just last week on mine) but BEST? nah. it did have some great stuff tho that has never been anywhere else.

Shenmue, Powerstone (yes it came out on PSP, fark you if you think that was in any was a good release), the BEST console version of Soul Reaver, Soul Calibur, Jet Set Radio, it really was an amazing next-gen console. Bought one day of release (still have 2 of the tshirts) and loved it since.
 
2012-12-31 03:08:59 PM

American Decency Association: Lumbar Puncture: frepnog: /San Andreas was easily the weakest of the original 3d GTA games. The California "gang-banger" crap was a poor substitute for the mafia stories, the body building and eating aspects were time consuming and pointless, the world, while large, was mostly empty and dead, the missions were either easy as pie or insanely hair pullingly pants shiattingly difficult. I load it up and play around with it around once a year, and then remember all of its many shortcomings and uninstall it. It just really isn't that much fun to play anymore

Disagree. As someone who grew up on the west coast in the 90s, San Andreas captured that decade as well as it spoofed the 80s in Vice City. There wasn't much of a mafia story in GTA3 as much as there was a story of revenge that wasn't really all that well developed, and the story of Vice City was in many ways just Scarface. The 'gang-banger' crap as you put it was a perfect parody of the culture and a better story than the mafia ones. The world was filled with an insane amount of activities to do, and the missions were some of the most memorable and varied of the entire franchise, including GTAIV (the dam, the casino break in, burning pot fields, etc)

The aiming system hasn't aged well at all, but I still find it fun to play.

if GTA had the mechanics of CoD combined with Forza, ya might have a hot little number


I'd be happy if they just took lessons from their own IPs and gave the next GTA game the 3rd person shooting of Max Payne 3, the driving of Midnight Club, and an update version of the brawling system from The Warriors.
 
2012-12-31 05:59:07 PM
I just got given one, am I a moron? It had a steering wheel and some driving games with it.

I bought Bully and PoP:sands of time so far.
 
2012-12-31 06:23:10 PM

frepnog: SuburbanCowboy: Dreamcast is still the best system ever made.nah. I love my dreamcast (was playing Shenmue and MVC2 just last week on mine) but BEST? nah. it did have some great stuff tho that has never been anywhere else.



Yes, the best. The Dreamcast is console perfection which deserved far, far better. Sega managed to get absolutely everything right with it.
 
2012-12-31 08:59:39 PM

Gordon Bennett: frepnog: SuburbanCowboy: Dreamcast is still the best system ever made.nah. I love my dreamcast (was playing Shenmue and MVC2 just last week on mine) but BEST? nah. it did have some great stuff tho that has never been anywhere else.


Yes, the best. The Dreamcast is console perfection which deserved far, far better. Sega managed to get absolutely everything right with it.


Everything except being able to compete with the PS2.
 
2013-01-01 12:04:17 AM
heh.... I bought my first PS2 and PS3 earlier this year....
 
2013-01-01 10:52:28 PM

Nemo's Brother: razyjean: I love my PS2. It's my third or fourth one, but if it were to die, I would still want a replacement.

Plus, it plays PS games, and while I only have about half a dozen, they all get replayed once every few years (except FF7 - the blocky "graphics" kill the game for me). You can pry FFIX from my cold, dead hands!

Great collector. The ps 2 and snes are king shiat of fark mountain


Yeah, I was going to say something about SNES in my original post, but couldn't figure out how I wanted to word it :p I was only 10 or so when that system came out, so I don't have near as many games (good or otherwise) for it. But my original SNES is still hooked up and gets regular play time. In fact, PS2 and SNES are the reason I insist on keeping our old tube tv. My husband has gotten used to it, lol.
 
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