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(Starpulse)   Ten TV cancellations still worth being upset about. You better believe "Leverage" is mentioned here   (starpulse.com) divider line 327
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2012-12-30 04:29:49 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Into the blue again: /so leverage was a good show?

I'd say so, but with this caveat:

It's not too deep, it's not TOO plausible, but it's entertaining as hell.

I'm not saying that it's dumb, but if you have suspension of disbelief in play, you will enjoy the hell out of it.

The best part of the show (besides the cons themselves) is how the main characters interact with each other.

Give it a shot!


Mid_mo_mad_man: The ending to Angel was just horrible.

I actually liked that ending, the whole "the battle never really stops" thing.

*shrugs*


FeedTheCollapse: you know, as much as I love MST3k, I can see it being a headache of a show to deal with in terms of securing rights/royalties and in taking up a 2-hour timeslot. Granted, i'm a bit miffed that Sci-Fi stopped carrying it so it can air bullshiat, but that just kind of seems par for the course for Sci-Fi.

eddievercetti: Comedy Central had a clusterfark of shows and they didn't know what to do with any of them. They kept the shows with big ratings and ditched MST. And we know why Sci Fi dumped MST3K year later...

It just helps to talk about this.

Reason takes a backseat to my MST3K love.


JosephFinn: Oh yeah, Coupling is pretty awesome. The guy who played Ted in Better Off Ted was in the disastrous American version, but he escaped.

I knew of the disastrous American version, but never tried out the British original.

I'll look into it. Thank ya!


Ok, adding leverage to my list then. Thanks!
 
2012-12-30 04:31:51 PM  

GAT_00: Fear_and_Loathing: What no Firefly?

Ugh, only five posts before one of you people.


GET OVER IT. IT AIN'T COMIN' BACK. YOU WON.
 
2012-12-30 04:35:49 PM  
None of you will probably remember the show. But I really miss "I'm With Her." We got nine seasons of "According to Jim", but only 22 of this show. No wonder Network Television is in the shape it's in.
 
2012-12-30 04:36:29 PM  
Yeah, well, some bigshot's wife at CBS decided nobody wanted to see country bumpkins on their TV thingy, so they cancelled the Beverly Hillbillies.

/Sob!
 
2012-12-30 04:38:25 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The ending to Angel was just horrible.


There would have to have been an ending for it to be horrible. Instead, Angel felt like it ended with a cliffhanger episode.

/And Duckman and Sliders both have unresolved cliffhangers because of writers saying "Fark You" to USA/Siffy.


FeedTheCollapse: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: KellyKellyKelly: No MST3K? Fark this list in the ear.

Screwed over by not one, but TWO networks, no less.

The damn station manager transitions made that possible at both Comedy Central and Sci-Fi Channel. The show ended up in the hands of two dumb farks who didn't know/care what to do with it.

you know, as much as I love MST3k, I can see it being a headache of a show to deal with in terms of securing rights/royalties...


Actually, no. Remember, Universal owns Siffy. The Universal vault was wide open to MST3K. Hell, that's why Season 8 was so damn difficult to bring to DVD until Shout did some smooth negotiating just recently... Siffy pretty much forced MST3K to use movies from the Universal vault for the majority of season 8. So securing rights to the vast myriad of Universal films was no problem at all for first run broadcast.
 
2012-12-30 04:41:33 PM  

AMonkey'sUncle: Yeah, well, some bigshot's wife at CBS decided nobody wanted to see country bumpkins on their TV thingy, so they cancelled the Beverly Hillbillies.

/Sob!


You're getting your stories mixed.

IIRC, Gunsmoke was canceled in 1967, until the head of CBS found out and un-canceled his wife's favorite show. So, they canceled Gilligan's Island instead to make room for Gunsmoke.

The Rural Purge which hit Hee Haw, Mayberry RFD, Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, and Petticoat Junction was because CBS Executives wanted a younger, more urban demographic than their country shows (which were still getting perfectly good ratings, BTW) could bring them.
 
2012-12-30 04:41:57 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Actually, no. Remember, Universal owns Siffy. The Universal vault was wide open to MST3K. Hell, that's why Season 8 was so damn difficult to bring to DVD until Shout did some smooth negotiating just recently... Siffy pretty much forced MST3K to use movies from the Universal vault for the majority of season 8. So securing rights to the vast myriad of Universal films was no problem at all for first run broadcast.


well, but that was just season 8. I'm sure there's other instances elsewhere of the same idea, but I was pretty sure it was a common problem for them to secure the rights for reairings and whatnot.
 
2012-12-30 04:44:23 PM  
List absolutely fails without Carnivale, Dead Like Me and SGU.

I am still beyond bitter about Carnivale, in particular.
 
2012-12-30 04:45:47 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: FirstNationalBastard: Actually, no. Remember, Universal owns Siffy. The Universal vault was wide open to MST3K. Hell, that's why Season 8 was so damn difficult to bring to DVD until Shout did some smooth negotiating just recently... Siffy pretty much forced MST3K to use movies from the Universal vault for the majority of season 8. So securing rights to the vast myriad of Universal films was no problem at all for first run broadcast.

well, but that was just season 8. I'm sure there's other instances elsewhere of the same idea, but I was pretty sure it was a common problem for them to secure the rights for reairings and whatnot.


It generally was. But, once they went to Siffy with season 8, they had the entire Universal vault and Public Domain open to them. The problem could have, hypothetically, disappeared. I mean, the Universal vault isn't exactly small... they probably could have gotten 7 seasons on Siffy alone out of just Universal and PD movies.
 
2012-12-30 04:48:34 PM  

texdent: Oh and Stargate Universe


Ever since they announced the cancellation of SGU, I've been on a hunger strike. I'm down to 500 pounds now.
 
2012-12-30 04:49:34 PM  
Harry's Law
Boston Legal
Pushing Daisies
The West Wing
 
2012-12-30 04:54:01 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Freaks and Geeks


This. It had a lot of potential that wasn't fully realized.
 
2012-12-30 05:05:26 PM  

eddievercetti: Yes he's good on Homeland but...FARK JAY LENO!

[collider.com image 300x400]


It's always sad when they cancel a scheduled viewing of Sarah Shahi.
 
2012-12-30 05:06:11 PM  
I miss detective Briscoe. Law and order did get odd after he died and yes did revive itself with Jeremy Sisto. I record all the reruns, it is amazing watching it change from its first episode to the last.
 
2012-12-30 05:10:47 PM  

Into the blue again: Ok, adding leverage to my list then. Thanks!


Hope you enjoy it!

Fair warning: it gets better as the series goes on (although I'm not TOO crazy about a few of the Season 2 episodes where Jeri Ryan temporarily fills in for a pregnant Gina Bellman, but even then, they're still enjoyable).

Have fun!


RckPngn: I miss detective Briscoe. Law and order did get odd after he died and yes did revive itself with Jeremy Sisto. I record all the reruns, it is amazing watching it change from its first episode to the last.


Especially the use of music in the REALLY early episodes of Law & Order, yeah.

Ditto on the whole missing Briscoe deal. Jerry Orbach was an irreplaceable talent.


FeedTheCollapse: FirstNationalBastard: Actually, no. Remember, Universal owns Siffy. The Universal vault was wide open to MST3K. Hell, that's why Season 8 was so damn difficult to bring to DVD until Shout did some smooth negotiating just recently... Siffy pretty much forced MST3K to use movies from the Universal vault for the majority of season 8. So securing rights to the vast myriad of Universal films was no problem at all for first run broadcast.

well, but that was just season 8. I'm sure there's other instances elsewhere of the same idea, but I was pretty sure it was a common problem for them to secure the rights for reairings and whatnot.


Hell, Gorgo aired one day and one day only.
 
2012-12-30 05:14:54 PM  
images.zap2it.com
 
2012-12-30 05:20:23 PM  
Didn't even bother past number 1. Sports Night was awful. It was everything that Sorkin sucked at. Which was proven again on Studio 60.
 
2012-12-30 05:22:36 PM  
The best part about Leverage was the scattered pop culture references throughout it.

You had to be sharp to pick a lot of 'em up, but they ranged from Community to Doctor Who to... pretty much anything you can think of.
 
2012-12-30 05:22:53 PM  
I miss Dollhouse. :(

Wouldn't consider myself a Whedonite... never really into anything he did. Except for Dollhouse. That I got pulled into immediately for some reason.
 
2012-12-30 05:29:01 PM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: The best part about Leverage was the scattered pop culture references throughout it.

You had to be sharp to pick a lot of 'em up, but they ranged from Community to Doctor Who to... pretty much anything you can think of.


YES!

I loved the episode where Hardison's in danger in a hospital and he pages for "Dr. Ralph O'Khan" (Wrath of Khan) to let Eliot know he needs help.

As a guy who loves pop culture-based humor, I ate that stuff up with a spoon and fork, man.
 
2012-12-30 05:30:42 PM  

ruetheday69: I really liked Dresden Files. Deserved more of a run. Along with a bunch of others mentioned so far, Brimstone, Firefly.
I have not seen any of the shows mentioned in the slideshow besides L&O.


Did you even read the books?
 
2012-12-30 05:32:56 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: First off, WHAR Titus, Andy Richter Controls The Universe, and The Tick?, WHAR?

Second, I agree that Law and Order was canceled too soon. Ratings were still decent, it was almost a completely new cast, and they had revitalized the old show. And what did they cancel it for? Nothing. Until this past season, every drama they had created between canceling L&O and now was canceled within a season, while L&O would have kept going if NBC had gotten their heads out their asses and quit farking with schedules.

Oh, wait, NBC without their heads up their asses... sounds like the premise to their next failed sci-fi/fantasy show.


Law and Order was getting increasingly ridiculous and the last season was over the top.
 
2012-12-30 05:33:43 PM  

gingerjet: Didn't even bother past number 1. Sports Night was awful. It was everything that Sorkin sucked at. Which was proven again on Studio 60.


I couldn't get past the laugh track
 
2012-12-30 05:36:17 PM  

cmunic8r99: eddievercetti: Yes he's good on Homeland but...FARK JAY LENO!

[collider.com image 300x400]

It's always sad when they cancel a scheduled viewing of Sarah Shahi.


Well, she sure didn't help matters by getting knocked up and forcing them to postpone/change the main arc. That show could have been wrapped up much better if they had just replaced Shahi instead of filming a bunch of waist up cameos.
 
2012-12-30 05:37:02 PM  

moothemagiccow: gingerjet: Didn't even bother past number 1. Sports Night was awful. It was everything that Sorkin sucked at. Which was proven again on Studio 60.

I couldn't get past the laugh track


Oh yeah, THATS the other thing I forgot drove me up the wall about that show. If there was ever a show made that didn't need a laugh track, it was sports night.
 
2012-12-30 05:38:40 PM  
Late to the thread, but can't believe noone has mentioned this little gem:

tvoseries.com
 
2012-12-30 05:40:40 PM  

Into the blue again: I'm still pissed they canceled lost after 5 seasons


/so leverage was a good show?


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2012-12-30 05:42:13 PM  

cmunic8r99: eddievercetti: Yes he's good on Homeland but...FARK JAY LENO!

[collider.com image 300x400]

It's always sad when they cancel a scheduled viewing of Sarah Shahi.


Especially when she ends up on a romcom like Fairly Legal.
 
2012-12-30 05:43:59 PM  
FarScape
Space: Above and Beyond
Rome
The Event
Deadwood
Journeyman
Nowhere Man
House of Buggin'
Awake
Caprica
*And the fact we never got to see Day One
/Firefly gets automatic add to any such list.
 
2012-12-30 05:44:01 PM  
www.experienciapersonal.es
 
2012-12-30 05:44:41 PM  
Keen Eddie.

i984.photobucket.com


Moneypenny. That is all.
 
2012-12-30 05:45:36 PM  
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

/That is all.
 
2012-12-30 05:46:22 PM  

lalolalona: Late to the thread, but can't believe noone has mentioned this little gem:

[tvoseries.com image 400x267]


I guess we were the only two that watched it. That explains it.
 
2012-12-30 05:46:29 PM  
Dammit man! How could I forget The Unit and Enterprise?!
 
2012-12-30 05:56:33 PM  

GAT_00: Fear_and_Loathing: What no Firefly?

Ugh, only five posts before one of you people.

What this list is actually missing is Better Off Ted.


Came here to nominate both of these over Law & Order.

Seriously, Law & Order??
 
2012-12-30 06:00:01 PM  
Also can't believe this hasn't been posted

www.dvd-covers.org
 
2012-12-30 06:00:14 PM  

Adam West for President: lalolalona: Late to the thread, but can't believe noone has mentioned this little gem:

[tvoseries.com image 400x267]

I guess we were the only two that watched it. That explains it.


I`m beginning to suspect FOX is contractually obliged to cancel any shows I might like in the network.

/"How are you, Miss Moneypenny?"
//"Completely...shaved"
 
2012-12-30 06:01:53 PM  

HempHead: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Even though it didn't make the record-setting number of episodes that it hoped to, I question the placement of Law & Order in this article.

Not surprised to see Leverage here, as I loved the hell out of that show.

It didn't get a whole lot of attention, but if I were writing an article of this nature, I'd include BBC's Survivors (not to be confused with CBS's reality series Survivor). It was a virus apocalypse show about a ragtag group of survivors in the UK. It had great characters, an interesting premise, and an excellent execution, but they axed it after 12 episodes spread over two seasons (and on a frustratingly inconclusive cliffhanger ending, of all things).

If you liked Leverage, check out the British series "Hustle" it was based on. And "the Real Hustle" where con men show you how to be a grifter.



If you said that to John Rogers, the show runner for Leverage, he would biatch slap you. It wasn't based on Hustle. Though, interestingly enough, apparently Adrian Lester was in LA when they were casting for Leverage and spoke with the producers about auditioning for Nate.
 
2012-12-30 06:05:24 PM  
Rubicon was Homeland before Homeland was Homeland. Also, while the plot was equally fantastical, the characters were more believable on an action-by-action basis. (Disclaimer: Haven't watched second season of Homeland yet).

And I can't believe no one has mentioned Party Down yet. So many great actors, so much great writing.
"I have a very prestigious blog."

Also miss:
Firefly (always)
Terriers
Freaks and Geeks
Veronica Mars (although with 3 seasons, it's not that big a deal. And the season 4 FBI academy concept pilot they put together was nifty, but didn't feel the same without the side-characters)

/still need to watch Carnivale and Rome
 
2012-12-30 06:06:01 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Also can't believe this hasn't been posted

[www.dvd-covers.org image 850x571]


Now that was a good stab at doing the Dresden Universe. Given that it was a pretty cheaply run show on syfy, it would have been interesting to see where it went. I think if someone really wanted to do the material justice it would have to be an animated series. But that wouldn't last either. Networks still think of it as a children's medium.
 
2012-12-30 06:09:07 PM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: And I can't believe no one has mentioned Party Down yet. So many great actors, so much great writing.


I somehow forgot this. Hell, I had no idea Starz even bothered to air anything decent until I saw Party Down.

Seth'n'Spectrum: Rubicon was Homeland before Homeland was Homeland. Also, while the plot was equally fantastical, the characters were more believable on an action-by-action basis. (Disclaimer: Haven't watched second season of Homeland yet).


I haven't seen Rubicon, but the biggest problem I had with the second season of Homeland is that no one's actions were really believable and seemed to be there mostly to move the plot along.
 
2012-12-30 06:10:09 PM  

RosevilleDan: [images.zap2it.com image 850x637]


Don't even get me going on Deadwood.  farking cocksuckers promised us two movies to wrap up the series and never farking delivered.
 
2012-12-30 06:11:34 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Oh, come on... It was John Ritter, and John Ritter rocked. How did this not deserve a long life, and stupid Olson Twins Uncle Joey Show lasted forever?
 
2012-12-30 06:12:38 PM  

IntertubeUser: FX's cancellation of The Riches is enough to send me into a white-hot ball of seething fury. They dropped the show right in the middle of a cliffhanger...ugh.


Still pissed they cancelled Lucky also
 
2012-12-30 06:15:34 PM  
Life check
The finder check
Missing
Raines
Jouneyman
The Middleman
that show on discovery where they pick 12 or so people to live as if there was an breakdown of society
 
2012-12-30 06:17:16 PM  

shpritz: cman: No "Chuck"? No "Kings"? No "Lone Gunmen"?

This list fails hard

Chuck was cancelled three seasons too late.


Same with Burn Notice. Great concept, ran out of plot quite quickly.

/Castle is in dangerous territory at this point.
//so is Glee
 
2012-12-30 06:19:30 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: AMonkey'sUncle: Yeah, well, some bigshot's wife at CBS decided nobody wanted to see country bumpkins on their TV thingy, so they cancelled the Beverly Hillbillies.

/Sob!

You're getting your stories mixed.

IIRC, Gunsmoke was canceled in 1967, until the head of CBS found out and un-canceled his wife's favorite show. So, they canceled Gilligan's Island instead to make room for Gunsmoke.

The Rural Purge which hit Hee Haw, Mayberry RFD, Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, and Petticoat Junction was because CBS Executives wanted a younger, more urban demographic than their country shows (which were still getting perfectly good ratings, BTW) could bring them.


OK, good enough.
 
2012-12-30 06:19:32 PM  

LonMead: I know it was just supposed to be a summer replacement series, but I remember some being upset when this ended:

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Predated Robin Hood: Men in Tights by two decades and was (in my opinion) much, much funnier (I've still got my VHS copy around here somewhere).

"Once upon a time when things were rotten
Not just food, but also kings were rotten
Everybody kicked the peasants
Things were bad and that aint' good
Then came Robin Hood

Soon a band of merry men begotten
They were out to see the plains bring cotton
Helping victims was their business
Boy oh boy was business good
Good for Robin Hood

They laughed, they loved
They fought, they drank
They jumped a lot of fences
They robbed the rich
Gave to the poor
Except what they kept for expenses

So when other legends are forgotten
We'll remember back when things were rotten
Yay for Robin Hood

They laughed, they loved
They fought, they drank
They jumped a lot of fences
They robbed the rich
Gave to the poor
Except what they kept for expenses

So when other legends are forgotten
We'll remember back when things were rotten
Yay for Robin Hood"


OMG I remember this show...it was hysterical! Of course I was pretty young when it was out.
 
2012-12-30 06:20:52 PM  
Space: Above and Beyond.

16 year old me is still angry about that. Ending on a cliffhanger too.
 
2012-12-30 06:22:58 PM  
Someone's at the door... Someone's at the door... Someone's at the door...
 
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