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(Courier-Journal)   Think the Weather Channel's naming system for winter storms is stupid? You're not alone. So does NOAA, the National Weather Service, and pretty much everyone else   (blogs.courier-journal.com) divider line 28
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2012-12-30 03:16:05 PM
5 votes:
Turning on the Weather Channel has become like turning on MTV and expecting music.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-30 02:00:43 PM
5 votes:
I don't click on weather.com headlines with winter storm names. If everybody did the same, this minor annoyance would go away.
2012-12-30 01:31:05 PM
4 votes:

Fear_and_Loathing: NOAA/NWS would be pissed.  That was their baliwick and winter didn't count.  TURFWAR!


NWS staff are forbidden to use the names.

The whole thing is entirely so they make things more dramatic for ratings. Just look at the names they chose.
2012-12-30 03:17:18 PM
3 votes:
I really only watch The Weather Channel to see which location of impending apocalyptic doom they've dispatched Jim Cantore to.
2012-12-30 02:52:09 PM
3 votes:

ZAZ: I don't click on weather.com headlines with winter storm names. If everybody did the same, this minor annoyance would go away.


Why do you even go to weather.com in the first place?  The only place with less accurate forecasts is the always ironic AccuWeather.  If you don't want to use the NWS site, Weather Underground is just as good.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-30 03:16:02 PM
2 votes:
whither_apophis: Can we get businesses to sponsor storms?

Do the reverse, like review blackmail web sites. We will name the storm Wal-Mart unless the company of the same name pays $1 billion.
2012-12-30 03:15:43 PM
2 votes:
I still can't forgive them for their stupid auto-start Flash widget.
2012-12-30 03:11:20 PM
2 votes:
Can we get businesses to sponsor storms?

/Ice storm of death brought to you by Prestone
2012-12-30 03:03:06 PM
2 votes:
Those are just as dumb as the "superstorm" moniker for Hurricane Sandy.
2012-12-30 02:25:54 PM
2 votes:
weather channel is a bunch of aws obscuring the very info we need to see.
2012-12-30 07:06:45 PM
1 votes:
tommcmahon.typepad.com

/100 percent chance of boner
2012-12-30 06:58:57 PM
1 votes:

TheDirtyNacho: Got a citation for that?


Silver cites:

J. Eric Bickel and Seong Dae Kim, "Verification of the Weather Channel Probability of Precipitation Forecasts", American Meteorological Society 136 (December 2008): pp 4867-4881.
2012-12-30 05:48:02 PM
1 votes:

TheDirtyNacho: Check out Forecast Advisor. Rarely is the NWS the most accurate. They don't pay as well as the private forecasters.


On the other hand, NWS isn't subject to the kind of retarded market forces that The Weather Channel contends with. Nate Silver covers the issue particularly well in his book. TWC doesn't like to issue 50% chance of rain forecasts because people interpret it as wishy-washy, so they flip a coin and go with 40% or 60%. They also inflate precipitation likelihood on the low end, because viewers don't understand that it really is supposed to rain 5% of the time when there is a 5% chance of rain. They bump to 15-20% instead.

So reliability diagrams come out clean for NWS, but TWC is all over the map. But they traded being accurate for the public perception of being accurate, so it works for them.
2012-12-30 04:36:38 PM
1 votes:

Silverstaff: ZAZ: I don't click on weather.com headlines with winter storm names. If everybody did the same, this minor annoyance would go away.

I don't click on weather.com

www.weather.gov

You're already paying for it with your tax dollars, might as well use it.


this..... www.weather.gov reports all the relevant info I need to know about wtf is going on outside... without a bunch of goofy shiat.....
2012-12-30 04:35:16 PM
1 votes:
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the brouhaha over the NWS-coined "frankenstorm" yet. According to NPR:

"Someone from the National Weather Service actually suggested frankenstorm, because it was a hybrid of different weather systems, like Frankenstein's monster, and it was also going to hit around Halloween," Zimmer says. But many news organizations considered Frankenstorm too lighthearted in the wake of the disaster, so the consensus settled on superstorm.
2012-12-30 04:31:54 PM
1 votes:

ski9600: Killer Cars: I really only watch The Weather Channel to see which location of impending apocalyptic doom they've dispatched Jim Cantore to.

The Weather Channel has become useless to me since my provider changed to a satellite feed that apparently can't determine where I am and provide a local temp/forecast. I know that The Weather Channel knows where I am and can provide temp/forecast on their station (they used to provide this information on the Weather Channel station, not any more), but the satellite provider fails because ZIPCODE.
/smrt


Then why are you still getting your weather forecast from a television show?
Try weatherunderground.com. They have pages for every local weather station that show detailed information that isn't dumbed down for morons.
2012-12-30 04:12:05 PM
1 votes:

Nem Wan: The TV executive who thought this up is that special kind of stupid that thinks it's genius. Or, actually clever and tough but cynical and self-interested to a fault.


Ah, management. In my experience, they were scientists and engineers who couldn't hack it at their jobs so they got promoted instead. Makes perfect sense that they would start something like this.

Now if someone would like to collaborate with NOAA and make a more comprehensive historical storm database to include No'reasters and other types of storms that would be nice. The new database is getting there, much better than before but for what I do, its not so much the hurricanes that matter but the winter and nor'easters.
2012-12-30 04:11:16 PM
1 votes:

ZAZ: I don't click on weather.com headlines with winter storm names. If everybody did the same, this minor annoyance would go away.


I don't click on weather.com

www.weather.gov

You're already paying for it with your tax dollars, might as well use it.
2012-12-30 04:05:22 PM
1 votes:
The TV executive who thought this up is that special kind of stupid that thinks it's genius. Or, actually clever and tough but cynical and self-interested to a fault.
2012-12-30 04:04:11 PM
1 votes:
Good to know this is not official. Winter storms don't merit a name.
2012-12-30 03:54:31 PM
1 votes:

Haliburton Cummings: oh the outrage!


I've been away from Fark for the holidays, is this a deep-freeze AW troll account or just one I haven't noticed until now?

Either way, step up your game, it's pretty weaksauce.
2012-12-30 03:52:16 PM
1 votes:
every storm name should end 'pocalypsemageddonacaust'.
2012-12-30 03:47:42 PM
1 votes:
Well, "Draco" sounded pretty badass for a winter storm.

Lately I've been VERY annoyed by our Philly Fox station that assigns 1-10 number ratings for the day's weather, 10 being a perfectly nice day, and 1 being lousy. It's pointless and absolutely useless. It imparts no useful information, like how you should dress or how hot or cold or wet or windy it's going to be.
2012-12-30 03:39:37 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Why do you even go to weather.com in the first place?


their maps are prettier
2012-12-30 03:38:32 PM
1 votes:
The public should get to vote on storm names, via the NOAA website.

Years from now we could be watching a news retrospective on the day Hurricane Weedlord Bonerhitler finally sunk Nawlins for good.
2012-12-30 03:35:50 PM
1 votes:
Part of the reason I don't like The Weather Channel anymore is it stopped being about reporting weather events several years ago.  Now it's disaster porn and "how can we ramp up our ratings?"  A couple of their reality shows are okay, they're interesting and not as retarded as reality shows on other networks, but it's kind of sad that even The Weather Channel needs reality shows nowadays.
2012-12-30 03:29:25 PM
1 votes:
Awesome. I am not alone. It is ridiculous. It's like naming clouds. It is just stupid. Designed to make people feel like something important is happening to them weather wise. "Left out of the recent natural disaster-heres some clouds with a name on it to make you feel special."
2012-12-30 01:48:49 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: The whole thing is entirely so they make things more dramatic for ratings. Just look at the names they chose.


Nonsense.  Now excuse me, I have to turn on the weather news and see if storm Ivan the Terrible has been upgraded to a class 5 storm of death.
 
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