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(AP)   News: The State Department has issued a updated travel advisory for Haiti, warning Americans planning to travel to the Caribbean island nation about robbery, lawlessness and infectious disease. Other News: Americans are still traveling to Haiti   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 118
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2012-12-30 09:14:43 PM

eatin' fetus: whidbey: And of course, no one wants to address how we caused the kind of 3rd world squalor found in Haiti and have done nothing to alleviate its miserable social-economic conditions...


So, exactly how much money have you sent to Haiti in order to aid their miserable "social-economic" conditions?

/the word is "socioeconomic", dumbass


So because I personally haven't spearheaded the movement and donated shiattons of cash means there isn't a problem, but I see you've appointed yourself Lord King of Terminology Corrections Bhufu. Got it.

/hurr
 
2012-12-30 09:22:55 PM

whidbey: eatin' fetus: whidbey: And of course, no one wants to address how we caused the kind of 3rd world squalor found in Haiti and have done nothing to alleviate its miserable social-economic conditions...


So, exactly how much money have you sent to Haiti in order to aid their miserable "social-economic" conditions?

/the word is "socioeconomic", dumbass

So because I personally haven't spearheaded the movement and donated shiattons of cash means there isn't a problem, but I see you've appointed yourself Lord King of Terminology Corrections Bhufu. Got it.

/hurr


So, you've sent nothing. Unsurprisingly, you failed to spearhead yet another movement -- the idea that we should fix this problem with other people's money. Many have beaten you to the punch on that one.

I get it though, you're an ideas guy.
 
2012-12-30 09:27:28 PM

eatin' fetus: whidbey: eatin' fetus: whidbey: And of course, no one wants to address how we caused the kind of 3rd world squalor found in Haiti and have done nothing to alleviate its miserable social-economic conditions...


So, exactly how much money have you sent to Haiti in order to aid their miserable "social-economic" conditions?

/the word is "socioeconomic", dumbass

So because I personally haven't spearheaded the movement and donated shiattons of cash means there isn't a problem, but I see you've appointed yourself Lord King of Terminology Corrections Bhufu. Got it.

/hurr

So, you've sent nothing. Unsurprisingly, you failed to spearhead yet another movement -- the idea that we should fix this problem with other people's money. Many have beaten you to the punch on that one.

I get it though, you're an ideas guy.


Not so sure about that, he still hasn't answered the point that his suggested cure for colonialism sounds a lot like colonialism. So no ideas either.
 
2012-12-30 10:12:01 PM

Boojum2k: I get it though, you're an ideas guy.

Not so sure about that, he still hasn't answered the point that his suggested cure for colonialism sounds a lot like colonialism. So no ideas either.



Well, they're "hey man, you know what would be awesome," between-bong-rips-style ideas that seem to change every time a significant logical obstacle is encountered. But they're still ideas.

And they're all but guaranteed to change to foaming at the mouth against American corporations/military/whoever and denouncement of our involvement in the first place if the U.S. gets involved and doesn't completely fix the problem within a year or two.
 
2012-12-30 10:32:26 PM
The only thing awesome about this is that the fark "random words become ad links" chose "travel to the caribbean" as the words and offered to help me travel there. Good one guys, the hard sell.
 
2012-12-30 10:36:09 PM
I'd assume it's mostly missionaries, doctors and such that travel there...
 
2012-12-30 10:49:09 PM

whidbey: And of course, no one wants to address how we caused the kind of 3rd world squalor found in Haiti and have done nothing to alleviate its miserable social-economic conditions so we don't have these passive-aggressive "warnings" about visiting the country in the first place. .


Oh boo hoo and what a silly woo you are!
 
2012-12-30 11:28:47 PM
Ehh that advisory is to keep people that have no idea what they are doing from going into the country... If you have the right connections down there people won't fark with you.
My dad goes down there every few months and loves the culture and people he has met.
If you are some weird bible hugger that wants to convert everyone from their voodoo ways, you will be farked.
 
2012-12-31 01:53:54 AM
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Disapproves.

They could gin up some kind of tourist industry based on restavecs. Or maybe that already exists.
 
2012-12-31 01:57:30 AM

Porous Horace: [images.zap2it.com image 270x360]
Disapproves.

They could gin up some kind of tourist industry based on restavecs. Or maybe that already exists.


www.latimes.com

"Wow... she has my nose!"
 
2012-12-31 02:42:18 AM

whidbey: ThrobblefootSpectre: whidbey: And of course, no one wants to address how we caused the kind of 3rd world squalor found in Haiti and have done nothing to alleviate its miserable social-economic conditions so we don't have these passive-aggressive "warnings" about visiting the country in the first place. .

Correct. We caused it by sending a lot of aid and free food. Which causes local farms (their entire economy) to go out of business and destroys their economy. The Haitian government has been asking the U.S. to stop sending free stuff for a long time.

Pretty sure we caused it by turning a blind eye to corporations raping the f*ck out of their natural resources and making sure elected governments were overthrown, but I wouldn't mind seeing a link. I have a hard time believing that any sort of aid to a starving country is a bad thing.


Agreed.
 
2012-12-31 02:47:56 AM

DownDaRiver: ArcadianRefugee: DownDaRiver: ArcadianRefugee: Indolent: Still the best place to buy a zombie.

And it's just a hop to the Dominican Republic for some underage boy ass. Just remember to bring your Viagra.

Go away

I'm sure there are plenty of other sites you'd fit in at

Ain't been here long, have ya?

Long enough to know that homosexual pedophilia comments aren't as edgy as you might think tthey are


IMHO the comment was ment to be taken tounge in cheek, pointing out a serious problem in the 'better off' DR.
 
2012-12-31 03:58:26 AM

eatin' fetus: the idea that we should fix this problem with other people's money.


HURR DEE HURR DEE DURRRRR
 
2012-12-31 05:30:48 AM
whidbey:

LOL. Apologize for much colonialism, much?

Cliché much, much?

You might have a good point buried under that trying-too-hard, teeny-bopper babble.
 
2012-12-31 06:05:46 AM
Haiti is the best, ever, place, ever.

Just go to Haiti.

Your government just don't want you to leave your precious, economy-less, zombie-less country for Haiti.

Come to Haiti.

The fun never ends.

The drinking never ends.

Come to Haiti.

You are all welcome to Haiti.

Come to Haiti.
 
2012-12-31 08:09:44 AM
Hey, why not?

I hear Papa Doc's Tonton Macoute nightclub is the most happenin' place in the whole Caribbean!
 
2012-12-31 09:35:40 AM
Fun fact: when the Haitians won their independence, they were made to pay reparations, with interest, for France's property losses (i.e. they bought their own farking freedom, on credit).

They didn't finish paying until 1947.

I shiat you not.
 
2012-12-31 11:26:40 AM
Haiti's been farked in many ways, both intentional (when they were the first black-ruled country in the world, absolutely no country would support them), and unintentional (their exposure to hurricanes, their volcanic soil, which is very hard to farm, as opposed to the fertile soil on the DR side of the island).

Not sure the solution to the seemingly intractable problems. But the blame, like that in many impoverished corrupt nations, lies only partly on the western/colonizing nations, and would be very difficult to fix.

"Throwing money at the problem" hasn't exactly worked in most situations, although investing money towards developing industries does seem to have some promise (see china's involvement in africa right now for example).

Ultimately it's up to the haitians to find solutions for the many issues they face. Handouts and benign paternalism is certainly not gonna get us or them anywhere.
 
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