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(WorldNetDaily)   Proof that oil doesn't come from dinosaurs, but that instead there is a nebula and one of the moons of Saturn buried under the Earth   ( wnd.com) divider line
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2012-12-30 08:00:24 AM  
Because when I think of interstellar processes, the first place I look is deep inside the Earth.
 
2012-12-30 08:01:56 AM  

St_Francis_P: Because when I think of interstellar processes, the first place I look is deep inside the Earth.


Oddly, after having been on this site for many years, when I think of oil, the first place I think of is the anus.
 
2012-12-30 08:10:38 AM  

naughtyrev: St_Francis_P: Because when I think of interstellar processes, the first place I look is deep inside the Earth.

Oddly, after having been on this site for many years, when I think of oil, the first place I think of is the anus.


lol damm you!
 
2012-12-30 09:11:48 AM  
The authors latest book "Where is the REAL birth certificate"

Well, guess I can stop reading there.
 
2012-12-30 09:12:39 AM  
I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?
 
2012-12-30 09:14:53 AM  
WND? On the geek tab?
I don't know whether subby should be saluted or slapped.
 
2012-12-30 09:14:56 AM  

LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?


I'm pretty sure it's all about young Earth creationism.
 
2012-12-30 09:16:01 AM  

LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?


They want to think it's formed endlessly and limitlessly inside the Earth.
 
2012-12-30 09:17:27 AM  
Astronomers are providing new evidence hydrocarbons are not a biological product but instead are created by inorganic chemical processes that occur on a continuing basis.

In other words, "pay no attention to those liberal bleeding hearts who say that we're running out of oil!   Oil is actually a self-replenishing resource!"

jeanwearinfool: The authors latest book "Where is the REAL birth certificate"

Well, guess I can stop reading there.


Uh, yup.
 
2012-12-30 09:18:05 AM  

St_Francis_P: LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?

They want to think it's formed endlessly and limitlessly inside the Earth.


It is. God wouldn't have made us a planet with limited oil.
 
2012-12-30 09:18:17 AM  

sxacho: LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?

I'm pretty sure it's all about young Earth creationism.


Oh, I hadn't thought of that angle.  This too.
 
2012-12-30 09:20:23 AM  
Sigh. My 75-year old AM-radio listening and otherwise intelligent father recently started in with this. "So there were *that* many dinosaurs???" and "I just don't see how scientists *KNOW* that fossils made oil", and my favorite "If oil comes from fossils, then why do they find fossils to begin with?? Shouldn't they have turned into oil??". I guess it's starting to make the rounds in the derposphere.
 
2012-12-30 09:21:37 AM  
The left side of my brain just turned to the right side of my brain and said, "It's dark in here. I think we may die."
 
2012-12-30 09:22:28 AM  

St_Francis_P: LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?

They want to think it's formed endlessly and limitlessly inside the Earth.


Facepalm.
 
2012-12-30 09:23:11 AM  
This seems completely unbiased.
 
2012-12-30 09:23:57 AM  

Earguy: sxacho: LDM90: I can't keep up with all the nuttery out there. What is it that bothers them about oil being formed from dead stuff? Is it Obama's fault or something?

I'm pretty sure it's all about young Earth creationism.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that angle.  This too.




This is an old evangelical and creationist argument -- there is no peak oil and we don't have to worry about the environment.

Except for the pesky facts of microfossils in oil fields. And that oil explorers USE microfossils to find oil.
 
2012-12-30 09:24:19 AM  

Frozboz: Sigh. My 75-year old AM-radio listening and otherwise intelligent father recently started in with this. "So there were *that* many dinosaurs???" and "I just don't see how scientists *KNOW* that fossils made oil", and my favorite "If oil comes from fossils, then why do they find fossils to begin with?? Shouldn't they have turned into oil??". I guess it's starting to make the rounds in the derposphere.


That sounds like the "if humans are descended from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" line of reasoning.
 
2012-12-30 09:24:46 AM  

VenomousDuck: This seems completely unbiased.


WND is one short step away from being a crop dusting and alien abduction site, so "unhinged" is probably closer to the truth.
 
2012-12-30 09:26:36 AM  

Frozboz: Sigh. My 75-year old AM-radio listening and otherwise intelligent father recently started in with this. "So there were *that* many dinosaurs???" and "I just don't see how scientists *KNOW* that fossils made oil", and my favorite "If oil comes from fossils, then why do they find fossils to begin with?? Shouldn't they have turned into oil??". I guess it's starting to make the rounds in the derposphere.


The link I provided above might help. Or not.
 
2012-12-30 09:27:39 AM  
Old, white, fat guy writes birther book about noncontroversial Obama birth certificate, then writes articles about how oil isn't created from terrestrial organic matter through geologic processes? Sounds like a FoxNews pundit.
 
2012-12-30 09:30:36 AM  
 Jesus, subby...WorldNutDaily in the Geek tab? I get enough of that bullsh*t in the politics tab. So imagine how disappointing it is to wander in here - a relatively smart and harmless tab - only to see more WND.

 After you're done with your Cheerios this morning, please fill the bowl with dicks and eat them.
 
2012-12-30 09:35:58 AM  
I always wondered how they get fuels from fossils. What, do they wring them out over a bucket or something? They would totally break before you'd get even one drop of oil.
 
2012-12-30 09:36:31 AM  

jeanwearinfool: The authors latest book "Where is the REAL birth certificate"

Well, guess I can stop reading there.


Corsi is also the guy behind the swift boat veterans.
 
2012-12-30 09:37:08 AM  
About ten minutes with Google, a pen, and a cocktail napkin will tell you that even if the earth somehow did generate oil because it's filled with a creamy nougat center, the rate at which it produces it is much lower than that of our consumption. If it were at or above our level of consumption, the earth long ago would have been completely covered by a rather deep layer of oil.

Of course, if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old, then the math might actually work out.
 
2012-12-30 09:41:24 AM  

Frozboz: Sigh. My 75-year old AM-radio listening and otherwise intelligent father recently started in with this. "So there were *that* many dinosaurs???" and "I just don't see how scientists *KNOW* that fossils made oil", and my favorite "If oil comes from fossils, then why do they find fossils to begin with?? Shouldn't they have turned into oil??". I guess it's starting to make the rounds in the derposphere.


If you feel like prodding him a bit, you can tell him that science has figured out how to make petroleum from dead plants by duplicating geological conditions (well, kinda, they add more heat and catalysis so it doesn't take a million years). It's actually one of the bits of the biofuels movement that you don't hear a lot about because the corn lobby has hijacked most of the money and media attention.

//Well, plus it's more about creating ingredients to make plastic at the moment, not really cost-effective for fuel oil until we run out of the natural stuff a bit more.
 
2012-12-30 09:48:34 AM  
The proof is in the results.

Oil produced by geoscientists using biotic theories: ~85m barrels per day
Oil produced by drilling suggest by abiotic theories: Zero.

And it's not that the latter hasn't been tried. Several Soviet leaders jumped on the abiotic theory in the 60s and 70s. Much like an earlier generation jumped on Lamarckism... if they could have a 'better science' than the decadent west, it would be a glory to Communism. (As it turns out, science just don't give a shiat what flag you're flying). Anyway, the Soviets sponsored dozens of drilling expeditions and had the leading crackpot abiotic theorists of the world submit their best ideas of finding 'deep oil'. Production? Absolutely none. But, they did manage to dig the deepest couple of wells ever drilled, which had some beneficial results for real geoscience, so that's nice.
 
2012-12-30 09:50:04 AM  

EngineerAU: About ten minutes with Google, a pen, and a cocktail napkin will tell you that even if the earth somehow did generate oil because it's filled with a creamy nougat center, the rate at which it produces it is much lower than that of our consumption. If it were at or above our level of consumption, the earth long ago would have been completely covered by a rather deep layer of oil.

Of course, if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old, then the math might actually work out.


Was about to mention something like this. The other thing to keep in mind is that even if oil was produced non-biologically, we've still got to have a way to get at it. Pockets of slightly petroleum-dampened rock 10 miles down in the crust are not going to be cost-effective to extract. Even if oil is "infinite," what we can actually use in the foreseeable future is still very finite.
 
2012-12-30 09:50:34 AM  
The comments on that article are the scariest thing I have seen in a long time.
 
2012-12-30 09:50:58 AM  

EngineerAU: About ten minutes with Google, a pen, and a cocktail napkin will tell you that even if the earth somehow did generate oil because it's filled with a creamy nougat center, the rate at which it produces it is much lower than that of our consumption. If it were at or above our level of consumption, the earth long ago would have been completely covered by a rather deep layer of oil.

Of course, if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old, then the math might actually work out.


But why do we have to drill for it? Shouldn't natrually occurring geysers of 30wt and 93 octane be everywhere?
 
2012-12-30 09:51:50 AM  

TheOther: EngineerAU: About ten minutes with Google, a pen, and a cocktail napkin will tell you that even if the earth somehow did generate oil because it's filled with a creamy nougat center, the rate at which it produces it is much lower than that of our consumption. If it were at or above our level of consumption, the earth long ago would have been completely covered by a rather deep layer of oil.

Of course, if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old, then the math might actually work out.

But why do we have to drill for it? Shouldn't natrually occurring geysers of 30wt and 93 octane be everywhere?


They would, except we're sinful, so God makes us dig holes.
 
2012-12-30 09:55:05 AM  
So is WingNutDaily going to purchase rights to TimeCube the way that the New York Times purchased rights to FiveThirtyEight?
 
2012-12-30 09:55:46 AM  

EngineerAU: About ten minutes with Google, a pen, and a cocktail napkin will tell you that even if the earth somehow did generate oil because it's filled with a creamy nougat center, the rate at which it produces it is much lower than that of our consumption. If it were at or above our level of consumption, the earth long ago would have been completely covered by a rather deep layer of oil.

Of course, if you believe the earth is only 6000 years old, then the math might actually work out.


Yeah, this too. From an engineering (as opposed to science) perspective, I don't care how the oil comes to be. I just want to know if we can keep sucking down 85mbpd (plus room for eternal growth and happy motoring).

The oil reservoirs we can reach don't refill at anything close to the rate we can suck them dry. I can hook you up with some dry-for-the-last-30-years oilwells in West Texas if you disagree.
 
2012-12-30 09:58:48 AM  
So, drill baby, drill since there's plenty of hydrocarbons 10 light years away?
 
2012-12-30 10:00:39 AM  
So let me get this straight: a nebula with a diameter of 13 light years only has 200x the hydrocarbons of all the water on earth.

Would there perhaps be some process on earth that creates more hydrocarbons than the norm?
 
xcv
2012-12-30 10:06:17 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: So is WingNutDaily going to purchase rights to TimeCube the way that the New York Times purchased rights to FiveThirtyEight?


I think WND just bought Fark from the amount of links they're getting in proportion to the amount of factual content they produce.
 
2012-12-30 10:06:18 AM  
If you atheistic libtards would just believe, and pray harder, God would give us all of the oil we could ever want.

So, the fault clearly lies with you, and to Hell with the lot o ya.

Hey, this ideology is uniquely applicable to...every ill society faces or has ever faced. I'm gonna run with it!
 
2012-12-30 10:07:04 AM  
Once I got away from the brainwashing indoctrination of our educational system and looked into this myself, I came to the same conclusion that oil reserves are not "fossil fuels" as we are told to believe. The evidence is too overwhelming to believe such nonsense. For example, why would the desert regions of the middle east have more "fossil fuels" than other rich-with-life regions, which would have had more fossils? Why would the arctic region in far north Alaska have more "fossil fuels"? Makes no sense, does it? Why do abandoned oil wells start producing again after several years of being dry? Because oil is continually being produced by mother nature, and is a renewable resource, unlike what the dunderhead educated idiots try to drill into our brains.


media.comicvine.com
This is what happens when you don't even have a 5th grade understanding of geology and climate shifts/cycles.
 
2012-12-30 10:09:18 AM  

xcv: LouDobbsAwaaaay: So is WingNutDaily going to purchase rights to TimeCube the way that the New York Times purchased rights to FiveThirtyEight?

I think WND just bought Fark from the amount of links they're getting in proportion to the amount of factual content they produce.


Did you just divide by zero?
 
2012-12-30 10:10:49 AM  
Say what you want, but it is damn impressive that someone can misunderstand science to that degree, willfully or otherwise.
 
2012-12-30 10:16:53 AM  
FTFA In contrast, geologists think of hydrocarbons as forming only through the activity of life - either in building life through photosynthesis or when forms of life die.

It's easy to discredit a lie....geologist don't think this at all.

This article lack any scientific understanding of anything. Hydrocarbons are the building blocks of organic materials, any person with half a brain knows that hydrocarbons aren't made by organic processes at first but the process that produces most of the oil on Earth, the decomposition of plants and animal back to these simpler forms, is organic. The reason most of our hydrocarbons are made by the secondary organic process is because when the Sun T-Tauried is blew most of the lighter elements and compounds to the other planets which is why they are hydrogen/helium gas giants as well as lighter compounds like hydrocarbons in the outer solar system and we (inner planets) got stuck with the heavier silicates and metallic elements and compounds. Most of our lighter compounds like water and hydrocarbons where brought to Earth after this point in the form of comets and meteor impacts.
 
2012-12-30 10:17:50 AM  
Well he IS a doctor, not to mention a patriot, so maybe he knows what he's talking about and maybe you all should stop talking so bad about him.
 
2012-12-30 10:18:08 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: The link I provided above might help. Or not.


Thanks for that link. Much of that stuff I didn't know, either. It will definitely help...
 
2012-12-30 10:18:36 AM  
The Russian-Ukranian theory? Probably brought to you by Gazprom.
 
2012-12-30 10:22:20 AM  

Robots are Strong: Well he IS a doctor, not to mention a patriot, so maybe he knows what he's talking about and maybe you all should stop talking so bad about him.


So you're saying, Study it out?
 
2012-12-30 10:22:23 AM  
So, we see jets of hydrocarbons in some moons and planets, entire oceans of methane and ethane on Titan, but all hydrocarbons are tired to organic processes? Yea, that is totally logical.

I am not claiming hydrocarbons are in constant renewal, but they do exist, in massive quantities outside of Earth.
 
2012-12-30 10:22:37 AM  
Are the comments on that site in any way indicative of the way a substantial portion of the American population thinks? I so, that's scary.
 
2012-12-30 10:24:37 AM  

St_Francis_P: Robots are Strong: Well he IS a doctor, not to mention a patriot, so maybe he knows what he's talking about and maybe you all should stop talking so bad about him.

So you're saying, Study it out?


THANK YOU!

This guys gets it.
 
2012-12-30 10:26:55 AM  
Proof and truth are not words I associate with world nut daily.
 
2012-12-30 10:32:26 AM  
So is the price of gas going to go down....

or

are we going to war with the Horsehead Nebula?
 
2012-12-30 10:34:24 AM  

crab66: This is what happens when you don't even have a 5th grade understanding of geology and climate shifts/cycles.


His wiki says he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and got a PhD from Harvard. While not necessarily proof of anything, I think its evidence that Corsi is more likely just writing down to the level that his chosen audience wants to hear, rather than actually embracing any of this. He also appears to have a history of running cons, given the flap over his investment failure in Poland that looks like it followed The Producers like a playbook.
 
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