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(The Star (Malaysia))   Lifestyle tips from hobbits. Smoking the pipe weed is on there   (thestar.com.my) divider line 18
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2012-12-30 09:59:55 AM  
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2012-12-30 12:45:01 PM  
This article is specifically aimed at Malaysian hobbits. If you're a Bangladeshi hobbit you're SOL.
 
2012-12-30 12:53:36 PM  
I wonder if lung cancer has been the predominant type of cancer in the Middle-earth...
 
2012-12-30 01:05:39 PM  
Judging from Radagast's reaction in The Hobbit it was more than tabbaccy in that pipe.

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2012-12-30 01:18:13 PM  

Zombalupagus: Judging from Radagast's reaction in The Hobbit it was more than tabbaccy in that pipe.

[i.imgur.com image 646x536]


At least Radagast isn't using LSD any more.

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2012-12-30 01:29:08 PM  
Perhaps this is a good place to ask why people seem to think that "pipe weed" refers to anything other than tobacco. I've always thought Tolkien made it pretty clear it was just tobacco.

Also, I recall reading somewhere that few if any studies have been done on the long term effects of moderate or pipe smoking versus constant heavy smoking. It has always been my assumption that pipe smoking is slightly less harmful, in part because one does not inhale. I'm curious to see if any real research has been done on this, and when I try to google it I find two camps, the first being rabid anti tobacco types claiming it will kill your children and the second being pipe aficionados pooh poohing the idea that there is any danger at all. I'm sure the truth lies somewhere between.

Full disclosure: I am an occasional pipe smoker. My rabid Tolkien fanboyism, I maintain, is entirely coincidental.
 
2012-12-30 02:30:41 PM  
If you look at the original Surgeon General's report on smoking, which established the link between cigarettes and lung cancer, the report data showed that pipe smokers actually lived longer than the general *non-smoking* population.

Probably because pipe smokers tended to be more educated and wealthy than the general population, which indicated they had better access to healthcare and had healthier lifestyles than the general population.

So, is pipesmoking good for you? No, but it seems it isn't all that bad for you either, since you definitely DON'T inhale pipesmoke. Way too harsh, and makes you sick as a dog if you do.

/pipesmoker
//lips haven't fallen off after almost thirty years
 
2012-12-30 02:36:13 PM  
Was not a good article. Not well put together and most Farkers could have written a more convincing analysis. i.e. eating 2000 calories in 7 small meals is better than in 3. Bare feet feels better when you can get away with it. Some loose associations with pipe weed being cannabis although the argument about tobacco is stronger. Though it would create a more peaceful barefoot community.
 
2012-12-30 02:38:38 PM  

miniflea: Perhaps this is a good place to ask why people seem to think that "pipe weed" refers to anything other than tobacco. I've always thought Tolkien made it pretty clear it was just tobacco.

Also, I recall reading somewhere that few if any studies have been done on the long term effects of moderate or pipe smoking versus constant heavy smoking.



Tobacco and cannabis are both plants that relax you, which was the vague sort of description I took from the pipe weed references.

Also, I wouldnt kid myself about health benefits of pipe versus cancer stick smoking. You wont likely face lung cancer like inhalers, but if you're habitually drawing carcinogenic smoke into your mouth you can still expect some damage. Similar to people who chew tobacco. Youre not damaging your lungs, but you are still damaging your gums, teeth, and tongue.

Why are you carrying a pipe if youre not inhaling, by the way? To look cool? Im genuinely curious.
 
2012-12-30 02:54:25 PM  
Why are you carrying a pipe if youre not inhaling, by the way? To look cool? Im genuinely curious.

It's basically an adult pacifier. You puff away, contented, enjoying the smell and taste, like eating food, but you don't fill up your stomach. If you do inhale a significant of pipesmoke, you get what we pipemen call "the green queasies", where you get awful cold sweats and nausea. So I got that going for me, which is nice...
 
2012-12-30 03:02:37 PM  

mark12A: Why are you carrying a pipe if youre not inhaling, by the way? To look cool? Im genuinely curious.

It's basically an adult pacifier. You puff away, contented, enjoying the smell and taste, like eating food, but you don't fill up your stomach. If you do inhale a significant of pipesmoke, you get what we pipemen call "the green queasies", where you get awful cold sweats and nausea. So I got that going for me, which is nice...



Yeah I played around with tobacco in all forms, I know the overdose. There are pipe blends that can be inhaled just like cigarette smoke, and if you have a high tobacco tolerance you don't have to worry about vomiting. I smoked a pipe when I was younger for awhile, my smoke shop had all kinds of flavors and blends. They were harsher smoke, but not all of them are "overdose strong" upon inhale. Pipe tobacco was also convenient timewise, you only have to take 3 or 4 quick drags to reach the desired effect. I cant remember how many times I shivered out for 3 minutes in the cold waiting for a cancer stick to finish.
 
2012-12-30 03:39:59 PM  
Theres nothing in there about gardening. What a noob.
 
2012-12-30 04:09:44 PM  
Not a smoker...

But I've always thought smoking a pipe would be real nice.

Maybe I'll start when I'm in my 60s...
 
2012-12-30 06:24:38 PM  
Phooey. I started smoking a pipe when I was 15--thanks to reading Tolkien, I might add--and after 36 years, I still do. Not all the time, but it is a pleasant diversion. Anti-tobacco fanatics do not seem to imagine that a person can smoke from time to time and get no real harm from it.
/I sure do miss Bengal Slices and Old Ironsides. Latakia FTW!
 
2012-12-30 07:50:31 PM  

D_Evans45: mark12A: Why are you carrying a pipe if youre not inhaling, by the way? To look cool? Im genuinely curious.

It's basically an adult pacifier. You puff away, contented, enjoying the smell and taste, like eating food, but you don't fill up your stomach. If you do inhale a significant of pipesmoke, you get what we pipemen call "the green queasies", where you get awful cold sweats and nausea. So I got that going for me, which is nice...


Yeah I played around with tobacco in all forms, I know the overdose. There are pipe blends that can be inhaled just like cigarette smoke, and if you have a high tobacco tolerance you don't have to worry about vomiting. I smoked a pipe when I was younger for awhile, my smoke shop had all kinds of flavors and blends. They were harsher smoke, but not all of them are "overdose strong" upon inhale. Pipe tobacco was also convenient timewise, you only have to take 3 or 4 quick drags to reach the desired effect. I cant remember how many times I shivered out for 3 minutes in the cold waiting for a cancer stick to finish.


I smoked a pipe for a few years in my 20s. My favorite was the sadly discontinued Dunhill 965.
 
2012-12-30 07:52:07 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Zombalupagus: Judging from Radagast's reaction in The Hobbit it was more than tabbaccy in that pipe.

[i.imgur.com image 646x536]

At least Radagast isn't using LSD any more.


He's into mushrooms now.
 
2012-12-30 08:43:29 PM  
So the list boils to down "be a hippie," basically.
 
2012-12-31 11:50:41 AM  
Pipe smoking = risk factor for oral cancer. Don't delude yourself. Original surgeon general's report quite old.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20 952559
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20 162568
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17 400948
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stati stics/fact_sheets/tobacco_indust r y/index.htm

Chewing 'backy bad as well.

Grand total of 90 seconds of looking in literature. Plenty of data out there.

Look, everything is dangerous. If you smoke in moderation, risks are lower. Same thing applies to my gin and tonic, and my peanut butter sandwiches (which I rarely have together).
 
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