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(WorldNetDaily)   The problem with today's baby names isn't that they're being saddled with unfortunate things like Bella, Brayden, Jayden, Katniss, and Grayden, it's that they're not biblical names   (wnd.com ) divider line
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2012-12-30 01:45:52 AM  
5 votes:
Oddly enough, my mixed blood tochis has HUGE Biblical connotations. An Archangel and a fairly important Biblical king. Then it gets mucked up with the Ellis Island mistake of transforming our German name into something vaguely Dutch or oddly transliteral in English. Not a big deal. My mother is Japanese, but somehow the genetics worked out to me only coming out only a bit Nihonjin looking, so maybe it's a good thing that I wasn't saddled with an Archangel's name, and then Toshiro or Hironori.

Rather than look for cool sounding names for our daughter, my then wife and I decided that we wanted to name our girl after people we care about. Thus she got named for my wife's best friend, my Aunt who raised me and is as close to a mother as I have, and my then wife's grandmother, who we were afraid wasn't going to live to see our girl, and we wanted her to know that she had a namesake, and maybe it worked, because the gal pulled through to see her namesake. It does mean that our daughter hates us around standardized testing time, because she NEVER has enough room to write out her full name. When she was a baby, we joked that her name was longer than she was. And it kind of is, but it is chock full of meaning. If the girl critter and I have a son, then he will be named after folks who are important to us again. As a namesake. As a way of remembrance and honoring those folks.

That my daughter's name has some Biblical elements isn't because we honor the People of the Book--neither of us are Christian. I'm a Buddhist, and my ex wife is a pagan. OK, she's sort of Newage--and yes, that's pronounced like it rhymes with "sewage" but her's is a mix and match sort of thing, and it's sort of hard to respect a faith tradition that picks and chooses what elements it will follow like a pu pu platter. It wound up that way, because the people we were closest to had fairly common names, and their folks chose some good sized Christian ones.

We chose to honor the folks who are closest to us. The girlcritter likes the idea, and I'm glad that she's on board, because it made the process of naming my daughter fairly easy. It isn't the path that everyone takes. I know that some folks want cool names. Something that sets their kids from the others. I hold less with that, because I think names help root us. Names have power, and if your name is ripped from fiction, and not even terribly established fiction, it sort of drains that power away. It lacks a certain...anchoring in the culture. It shows a kid that his or her folks were moved by a fad, and that is maybe a lesson can go down hard. But that's my take on it, and they're not my kids, and it's not my decision. I don't hold with it, I don't agree with it, but it's not my place to judge--well, maybe a little, but it has less to do about the child than the parents, and I WILL judge the f*ck out of other parents around my wee girl. And I can see folks who will judge others for what they name their kids. I can understand it, if it is sort of this faddish sort of thing. Mind you, it is sort of sad, that Christians forget Matthew 7:1, but it is understandable.

But it's none of my business, and while internally I may roll my eyes, if someone introduces their baby Katniss to me, I'm going to answer the phone when the bairn hands me their plastic phone and get to know the kid. Kids can't help what we name them, so maybe it's a good idea to make that name means something, but it's not my business if they decide to do so with a fad, because we all have our idiosyncrasies. It's, at best, a venial sin against good taste.
2012-12-29 11:58:02 PM  
5 votes:
I love shiatbag articles like this where the passive-aggresive writer never makes a point. Are biblical names fading from popularity? Yes. And? Your point is, numbnuts?
2012-12-30 02:31:15 AM  
4 votes:
Is that so? Then I presume the WND acolytes have terrific things to say Adam Lanza, James Holmes and John Hinkley. Right? Right?

/Imbecilic rationale
NFA
2012-12-30 01:16:16 AM  
4 votes:
I for one will be happy when the writers of the Wing Nut Daily are forcibly fitted with shock collars that can be activated via internet.  Then are forced to be on webcam 24/7.  With every stupid comment, every ridiculous conspiracy spew, the sane people of the world can give them the shock therapy they desperately need.
2012-12-30 09:40:14 AM  
3 votes:
I presume the author wants more kids to have the Anglicized, King James Bible names, like Jacob, Joshua/Jesus, Isaac, John, and Joseph.

Because if a lot of kids were to be named Yakov, Yeshua, Yitzhak, Yochanan and Yosef I think the author would sound the alarm that the Jews and/or Islamofascists were taking over our American culture.
2012-12-30 07:06:26 AM  
3 votes:
The trend I hate lately are what I call "job" names.

Fisher
Hunter
Walker
Rider
Parker
etc.

It's like the parents are expecting what the kid is going to be doing all his/her life.
2012-12-30 05:57:33 AM  
3 votes:
I've been flipping through the Bible and I just don't see the names Tagg, Track, Trig or Ronald-Ann *anywhere*
2012-12-30 04:28:39 AM  
3 votes:
I'm naming my kids Cain and Abel. What could possibly go wrong?
2012-12-30 01:12:43 AM  
3 votes:
There really is a lack of good Christian Bible names like Ronald, Mitt, Newt and Rush today.
2012-12-30 12:58:28 AM  
3 votes:
I'll help reverse this trend.  I'm naming my kids Pilate and Nebuchadnezzar.
2012-12-30 12:39:20 AM  
3 votes:
o.onionstatic.com

/oblig
2012-12-30 04:05:38 PM  
2 votes:
It is amusing that English-speaking white people assume there have only been a couple of dozen names used by said English-speaking white people from the dawn of time - and doubly amusing that they are all Jewish names, not even Indo-European. While actually, English (and by extension, American) names have been all ove rthe place. In fact, you can argue that English names default to what the WND crowd sees as the "only real names" only in times of decline and stagnation. During times of increase and power, names tend to flower. To wit, Victorian names:

Link

Go farther back, and you get the Do-Not-Bathe-on-the-Sabbath and Verily-Marching-for-the-Lord set. My wife's research into the early EIC has turned up Tempest Peacock and Dixie Clitherow (both men, btw).

And, if you must insist on "white" names, at least choose real ones like Aethelwulf, Maponus, and Etheswitha.
2012-12-30 07:42:44 AM  
2 votes:
In 2012, there were eight girls' names based on biblical characters in the top 100: Chloe, Abigail, Hannah, Sarah, Anna, Elizabeth, Leah, and Julia. It's nine if one includes Maria, the Spanish name for Mary.

Quite right of WND to question the inclusion of Maria. Indeed, is it truly Biblical if it isn't from the original English?
2012-12-30 04:35:42 AM  
2 votes:

CONFORM!

2012-12-30 04:22:28 AM  
2 votes:

Carotid: How about "Le-a" pronounced "Ledasha". I kid you not. Actual legal name.


Find the evidence. Someone posting it on FB doesn't mean its real.
2012-12-30 12:02:25 AM  
2 votes:
Sorry, girls cant go dancing on the pole with names like Esther or Martha.

/no one tips those girls
2012-12-29 11:31:21 PM  
2 votes:
Another BS war on christianity - oh noes folks aren't using biblical names anymore...

/ My son is named after a heathen god
// fark Christians
2012-12-30 07:53:45 PM  
1 vote:
You know what these names will turn into, don't you? They'll be names synonymous with old people, like "Grace" or "Mabel", these days.

That's what trendy names do.
2012-12-30 04:47:04 PM  
1 vote:
OK, fine, WND.  If I have a boy, I'll name him "Satan Judas Wormwood," and if it's a girl, I'll name her "Whore of Babylon."

Happy now?
2012-12-30 02:00:22 PM  
1 vote:
Uhm, just a basic logic fail here, but if the scriptural names are supposedly holier, where did the people in scripture get them from? Surely this would ahve come up back then, "you want to name him what? No, he's gotta be this so he can be better" etc.

/bible believer
//constantly pray for the strength to deal with my fellow believers
2012-12-30 01:22:53 PM  
1 vote:

Mouser:
I was thinking Obadiah, myself. Can't go wrong with a name like that.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Begs to differ....

/ may be obscure
2012-12-30 12:15:11 PM  
1 vote:

gadian: 23FPB23: One of her daughters is named Americus, another is named Palin.

Palin.

In these parts a popular name during that election cycle was Maverick. Ran into one of the little squirts recently when he flipped over his mommy's entire shopping cart while mommy was saying "Now Maverick, I asked you to behave!"


Yeah that gets back to the vaguely Western thing that's been going on. It seems to have co-incided, at least around here, to the trend of tacky Native-American decor. You know, dream catchers and wolves and shiat.

Hell, former U of Texas QB's name is Colt McCoy. How farkin funny is that, especially since he played for Texas! And his younger brother is named Chase, another name I never heard until about 15-20 years ago.
2012-12-30 12:10:59 PM  
1 vote:
If I had a son, I would name "Hadouken." Every time I had to call him over I would pretend like I'm throwing a fireball.

/Hadouken! Hadouken!
//(tries to jump over fireball) SHORYUKEN!
///Sucks at Street Fighter.
2012-12-30 11:16:38 AM  
1 vote:
Surprised that no one has called this out yet...

The problem with biatching about not using Biblical names, is that the names that they are biatching about aren't really Biblical themselves. Peter, Paul, Mary, Thomas, Matthew, Simon, et al are FAKE NAMES. No One, 2000 years ago in the MIDDLE EAST, had THESE NAMES. Even the name 'Jesus' is a bullshiat made up transliteration. Any actual scholars out there? What's the first rule of translating from one language to another? -> YOU DON'T TRANSLATE PROPER NOUNS! You convert the sound phonyms so the name remains pronounced the same BUT YOU DON'T TRANSLATE IT.

So who are people REALLY praying to when they pray to Jesus? Maybe _that_ is why they fail.
2012-12-30 09:33:02 AM  
1 vote:
And that is why Yahweh will allow the Babylonians to lay sack to this land of wickedness which heeds not His word.
2012-12-30 09:27:13 AM  
1 vote:
What's funny, if I had a girl I was thinking of Lillith or Morrigan...
2012-12-30 09:00:50 AM  
1 vote:

drjekel_mrhyde: robohobo: So, when did black people start giving their children such ridiculous names? Really, I'm curious. When did the random apostrophe/name out of thin air thing start happening?

I think it's the younger American black females that come up with that shiat. My name is Adrian my daughter's mother name is Joanna, so it was made sense to name our daughter Arianna. Now I do have one dipshiat cousin name her kids TaShawn and Za-kia
/My daughter's mother is from St. Thomas BTW
//Back in the days ever black woman had either Anne or Mae for their middle name if they came from the south


It was after the black power movement. All the crazy concatnated names came to be then. If anyone has Netflix, Freakonomics talks about this very thing. It's pretty interesting and comical.

Interesting note...they found people with those crazy names looked for jobs on average 15 days longer than "normal" sounding names. Due to call backs and what not. They also discovered over 200 versions of the name "unique".
2012-12-30 08:55:27 AM  
1 vote:
I cannot believe this has not yet been posted

Bob
www.subgenius.com

That is all.
2012-12-30 08:53:12 AM  
1 vote:
I've also noticed that boys are hardly ever named Adolph anymore. That used to be quite a popular name back in the 1920's.
2012-12-30 08:33:30 AM  
1 vote:
In 2009, the top baby names were Jacob and Isabella, two Biblically-based names. Christians decried that, too, because most people naming their babies that were doing it because of the heathen anti-god stories of Stephenie Meyer.
2012-12-30 08:29:42 AM  
1 vote:
Why not names right out of Middle-Earth? Lord of the Rings is a bigger piece of fiction than the Bible, and Thorin Okenshield is a much cooler name than David.
2012-12-30 08:04:49 AM  
1 vote:
I'd like to see Throckmorton come back, personally.
2012-12-30 07:51:11 AM  
1 vote:
I think it would be maddening if my name were Michael, David, John, etc. Hell, those 3 names alone probably cover about 40%+ of the names of the male population.


Brayden, Aiden, Jayden, etc.: these are all the same stupid farking name and sounds like someone is trying way too hard to be fancy, but coming off as unoriginal.
2012-12-30 07:16:21 AM  
1 vote:
To be really fair, nobody on the playground would fark with a kid named Ezekiel. Give said child a Samuel L. Jackson plushie to keep them company in their crib.

I'm not biblicly named, but there's a couple kings of Prussia so that's cool.
2012-12-30 07:12:50 AM  
1 vote:
Where in the Bible does it say you're limited to using only names in it?

That part must have been ripped out of my copy because I'be never found it.
2012-12-30 06:33:08 AM  
1 vote:
Joe Kovacs is an award-winning journalist...

I doubt anyone would award him the time of day.
2012-12-30 05:52:20 AM  
1 vote:
My next child will be named Biggus Dickus.

/even if its a boy
2012-12-30 05:46:21 AM  
1 vote:

Elzar: Another BS war on christianity - oh noes folks aren't using biblical names anymore


Looking at the article, I get the impression that it's more about kids being given biblical names by their parents becoming less popular that about some idiot alarmist crying "war on Christianity"

Me, I was raised a Christian, my birth name includes Benjamin and James and I'm not at all bothered by the idea of Biblical names being less common these days. Some might say it's a reflection of Christianity becoming less common in our modern society, I think it's just a coincidence.
2012-12-30 05:42:26 AM  
1 vote:

Carotid: How about "Le-a" pronounced "Ledasha". I kid you not. Actual legal name bullshiat urban legend.


FTFY

I've heard too many different variations of the story ("Girl at my nephew's school", "girl at my coworker's babysitter's son's community pool" etc.) to believe this is anything more than fabricated thinly veiled racism.
2012-12-30 05:04:10 AM  
1 vote:
These guys will be really pissed off if I name my son Lion-O or daughter Cheetara.
2012-12-30 04:59:14 AM  
1 vote:
I'll take these people's complaints seriously when they start naming their boys Methuselah and their girls Zipporah. Until then, you're not Biblical enough, asshats.
2012-12-30 04:56:26 AM  
1 vote:
Yawhay Jones (misspelling oblig)
2012-12-30 04:53:53 AM  
1 vote:
You think those girls are all really called Roxy?

It's still real to me, dammit!


Next thing you'll be telling us that those strippers aren't really working to pay for med school!

/The world needs another Savannah like Savannah needs another hole in her head
2012-12-30 04:53:08 AM  
1 vote:
Did you catch the quiz at the end asking readers why this trend is taking place?

Two multiple choice selections:

"Native-born Americans have fewer children than some immigrant groups -- I suspect that's skewing the results"

Because you've never heard of a guy from Mexico named Jésus.

"Americans have become biblically illiterate and don't even know the names of characters found in Scripture"

Freudian slip?

/I'm gonna name my kid God to make them happy. He's one of the best-known characters from the Bible afterall.
2012-12-30 04:47:36 AM  
1 vote:
As long as you don't name your kid something that's an English, and preferably go for something that's recognizably a name and not something else, I don't care. Zyzyzyx is fine, I can pretty much tell that's a name and not something else so whatever. Same with David or Jeremiah or Antwaine.

Archaisms and really obscure English words are a bit of a grey area, I haven't yet decided on whether to assume the parents of anyone named Katniss are necessarily idiots, for instance. But I do feel I can validly make that assumption about anyone with a daughter named Summer, for sure.
2012-12-30 04:46:48 AM  
1 vote:
Rather than use pretend names from a book of stories we decided to honor some real people. Our moms are Tina and Mary, so we put them together and got Martina. Lovely name.
2012-12-30 04:39:55 AM  
1 vote:
Nimrod.
2012-12-30 04:36:27 AM  
1 vote:
My name is biblical and my husband is named for an archangel. Turns out my son's name is biblical and I had no idea, he's just named after his great grandfather. Hell, I want to name our next hypothetical son that will probably never happen Samael, not because he's the angel of death, but because a guy by that name has always been very kind to me. Turns out my culture swerves towards biblical names. Others don't. There's nothing wrong with either.
2012-12-30 04:31:00 AM  
1 vote:
If we're going with religious names, I'm using Greek ones.

basemetal: Sorry, girls cant go dancing on the pole with names like Esther or Martha.

/no one tips those girls


You think those girls are all really called Roxy?
2012-12-30 03:31:10 AM  
1 vote:

Millennium: Start the counter-trend: name your kid Zebulun or Hagar.


I went with Kang and Kodos. But that's just me.

/doesn't actually have kids
2012-12-30 02:32:47 AM  
1 vote:

Apos: Is that so? Then I presume the WND acolytes have terrific things to say about Adam Lanza, James Holmes and John Hinkley. Right? Right?

/Imbecilic rationale

2012-12-30 01:30:19 AM  
1 vote:

Carotid: How about "Le-a" pronounced "Ledasha". I kid you not. Actual legal name.


That's my sister-in-law's name.

But she pronounces it "Lehyphena"
2012-12-30 12:25:49 AM  
1 vote:
How about "Le-a" pronounced "Ledasha". I kid you not. Actual legal name.
2012-12-30 12:08:29 AM  
1 vote:
I have a biblical name and so does my boyfriend, but neither of us are Christians, so I don't think we count to the Wing Nut Daily crowd.
2012-12-30 12:03:52 AM  
1 vote:

Millennium: Start the counter-trend: name your kid Zebulun or Hagar.


Or names from a different bible.
2012-12-29 11:59:45 PM  
1 vote:
Is this an appropriate thread to post that "Help, we're being repressed!" pie chart?

/dnrtfa
2012-12-29 11:40:40 PM  
1 vote:
I think I'm having a stroke

/I meant LUCK
//WTF am I typing?
2012-12-29 11:39:37 PM  
1 vote:

Elzar: Another BS war on christianity - oh noes folks aren't using biblical names anymore...

/ My son is named after a heathen god
// fark Christians


And good look to little Cthulhu Elzar
 
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