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(UPI)   Car maker says it's working on a system to allow a driver's smartphone to control the car. What could possibly go wrong?   (upi.com) divider line 50
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2012-12-29 11:56:03 PM
AppleMaps.
 
2012-12-29 11:57:38 PM
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Bond did that already.
 
2012-12-30 12:00:34 AM
A smartphone is definitely smarter that some of the drivers I've seen
 
2012-12-30 12:22:54 AM
Windows 8? No thanks.
 
2012-12-30 01:03:22 AM
Considering my HTC started dying about 2 months after purchase, and their advice is "mail it to us, we'll get it back to you in 4-6 weeks", and I don't have a land line,  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with using their smartphone to drive their cars.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-30 01:33:32 AM

Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.


25.media.tumblr.com


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1
 
2012-12-30 01:53:53 AM
Maximum Overdrive II: The Rage Of NFC
 
2012-12-30 01:54:07 AM

dj_bigbird: A smartphone is definitely smarter that some of the drivers I've seen


The problem being smartphones aren't THAT smart either
 
2012-12-30 01:57:23 AM
Drive Angry Birds?
 
2012-12-30 02:03:11 AM
Temple Run: Audi edition.
 
2012-12-30 02:26:07 AM

fusillade762: AppleMaps.


Damn. Beat me to it.
 
2012-12-30 02:43:04 AM
This is a great idea.  It may be the only way to get some people to pay attention to their driving.
 
2012-12-30 05:07:45 AM
media.sfx.co.uk
 
2012-12-30 05:07:58 AM
They'll get a ticket for using the phone while driving?
 
2012-12-30 05:11:26 AM

NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1


Reminded me of this video

Wait for it. Seriously.
 
2012-12-30 05:20:29 AM

moothemagiccow: They'll get a ticket for using the phone while driving?


Yup. This is already outlawed in several states and cities since it isn't a hands-free use of a phone. And the NTSA and DOT are trying to figure out how to pressure every state into banning all handheld electronics while driving.

Why a car maker would even think this is going to be permitted is beyond me. Outside of stunt driving on closed courses it is going to be forbidden.
 
2012-12-30 06:04:33 AM

moothemagiccow: NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1

Reminded me of this video

Wait for it. Seriously.


That was cool
 
2012-12-30 06:04:44 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dj_bigbird: A smartphone is definitely smarter that some of the drivers I've seen

The problem being smartphones aren't THAT smart either


Other than one time when my navigation kept trying to get me to turn on to a HS football field, It's worked pretty well.
 
2012-12-30 06:16:59 AM

BolloxReader: And the NTSA and DOT are trying to figure out how to pressure every state into banning all handheld electronics while driving.


What, nobody there learned from MADD getting the feds to blackmail states that didn't want to raise the drinking age by threatening to withhold highway funds?
 
2012-12-30 06:21:44 AM

fusillade762: AppleMaps.


Well this uses NFC and wireless charging so Apple users are out of luck. i think they will just stuff this Link in the car and charge a extra $1000 bucks. Right now there are around 8 phones with both NFC and wireless Qi charging and around 5-6 that has NFC but you can get a wireless back plate.
 
2012-12-30 06:30:52 AM

NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1


Try using The Verge instead of Engadgetmodo
/Less twelve year old kids jokes
 
2012-12-30 07:15:26 AM
Have you ever played a video game with touch screen controls?

Now imagine that game is a car.

//GTA III on iOs sucks.
 
2012-12-30 08:04:07 AM

BolloxReader: moothemagiccow: They'll get a ticket for using the phone while driving?

Yup. This is already outlawed in several states and cities since it isn't a hands-free use of a phone. And the NTSA and DOT are trying to figure out how to pressure every state into banning all handheld electronics while driving.

Why a car maker would even think this is going to be permitted is beyond me. Outside of stunt driving on closed courses it is going to be forbidden.



That has nothing to do with anything the article is talking about. Try a little reading next time.

TFA is talking about using NFC tags and smarthphones to do shiat like unlock doors (probably a really bad idea) or control user preferences like seating, radio presets, etc (a pretty good idea) as well as wirelessly charging the phone. There's nothing about actually controlling the motion of the car with the phone or anything that involves holding the phone in your hand while driving. So bringing up laws about device use in cars is pointless.

As neat as I think a lot of this is, I think being able to unlock the car with your phone or an NFC tag is a bad idea. I think that would just make it even easier for someone to spoof the identity of your phone and steal your car.
 
2012-12-30 08:17:16 AM
drivers could lock and unlock the car's doors by tapping their phone on an NFC tag on the door,

This is a fantastic idea right up until the moment your mobile's battery goes flat and suddenly you're locked out of your own car.
 
2012-12-30 08:53:34 AM
I'll wait until they find out how to control a car with a wristwatch. Preferably a black 82 Trans Am.
 
2012-12-30 09:11:50 AM
better hope your smart phone is running the Linux based Android. otherwise, you could be in trouble if it picks up an infection or some adware/spyware.
 
2012-12-30 09:26:20 AM
I prefer that my car not be able to FIND SARAH CONNER
 
2012-12-30 09:26:39 AM
Oh great. Now my car will be taking taking naked photos of itself and posting them to Imgur
 
2012-12-30 09:32:56 AM
If the phone's running "Windoze Phone 8,' we're about to witness the single most catastrophic and life-threatening demonstration of incompetent software creation ever experienced by the sentient mind.
 
2012-12-30 09:37:27 AM

Oldiron_79: I prefer that my car not be able to FIND SARAH CONNER


Yea, Linda Hamilton is getting on in years, but back in the day, hell yea I would want my car to be able to do that!
 
xcv
2012-12-30 10:02:21 AM

ModernLuddite: Have you ever played a video game with touch screen controls?

Now imagine that game is a car.

//GTA III on iOs sucks.


Same for any driver wearing regular gloves.
 
2012-12-30 10:15:29 AM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

/oblig
 
2012-12-30 10:53:44 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1

Try using The Verge instead of Engadgetmodo
/Less twelve year old kids jokes


Just say out of the comments.
 
2012-12-30 11:05:03 AM

taurusowner: BolloxReader: moothemagiccow: They'll get a ticket for using the phone while driving?

Yup. This is already outlawed in several states and cities since it isn't a hands-free use of a phone. And the NTSA and DOT are trying to figure out how to pressure every state into banning all handheld electronics while driving.

Why a car maker would even think this is going to be permitted is beyond me. Outside of stunt driving on closed courses it is going to be forbidden.


That has nothing to do with anything the article is talking about. Try a little reading next time.

TFA is talking about using NFC tags and smarthphones to do shiat like unlock doors (probably a really bad idea) or control user preferences like seating, radio presets, etc (a pretty good idea) as well as wirelessly charging the phone. There's nothing about actually controlling the motion of the car with the phone or anything that involves holding the phone in your hand while driving. So bringing up laws about device use in cars is pointless.

As neat as I think a lot of this is, I think being able to unlock the car with your phone or an NFC tag is a bad idea. I think that would just make it even easier for someone to spoof the identity of your phone and steal your car.


www.lowdensitylifestyle.com
 
2012-12-30 11:38:59 AM

xcv: ModernLuddite: Have you ever played a video game with touch screen controls?

Now imagine that game is a car.

//GTA III on iOs sucks.

Same for any driver wearing regular gloves.


Sequins help you go faster, bro. It's science.
 
2012-12-30 12:27:38 PM

NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1


The fanboid neckbeard has checked in.
 
2012-12-30 01:07:18 PM

Hardy-r-r: moothemagiccow: NFA: Carotid: Windows 8? No thanks.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x200]


Queue the paid Windows apologists in 3,2,1

Reminded me of this video

Wait for it. Seriously.

That was cool


Why? Why is Japanese tentacle porn cool? The ending doesn't even make sense.
 
2012-12-30 01:57:54 PM
This happening in real life? NSFW song audio.
 
2012-12-30 03:05:26 PM
Didn't top gear UK feature a car that already did this, sometime around 2008-ish? Not exactly news at that point. And I believe theirs could at least start the car.
 
2012-12-30 03:24:38 PM
You all reading a different article? I only see the phone being utilized to be able to lock/unlock doors, remember personal preferences like how one likes their seat, stream music, etc.
 
2012-12-30 04:50:46 PM
So, using the phone as an alternate interface for the non-driving aspects of your car?

Jeez, whadda bunch of negative-nelly luddites!!!1!!eleven!
 
2012-12-30 06:28:16 PM
This is smart key fobs like a lot of cars use. Locks, ignition authentication, driver preferences etc. have ALL BEEN DONE BY DEDICATED DEVICES BEFORE.

The new idea here is that "hey fellow engineers, why make the customer buy a $100 key device when they already have an existing device (telephone) that we can piggyback software onto." Utilizing the existing infrastructure (DSL on phone lines, new uses for the household iron, church community center, etc.) is not a radical concept.
 
2012-12-30 08:37:34 PM

RexTalionis: Bond did that already.


Up next: invisible cars.
 
2012-12-30 08:48:33 PM

Linux_Yes: better hope your smart phone is running the Linux based Android. otherwise, you could be in trouble if it picks up an infection or some adware/spyware.


Yeah, because Android has no malware, remote rooting, or virus issues. Oh, wait...
 
2012-12-30 08:49:32 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: fusillade762: AppleMaps.

Well this uses NFC and wireless charging so Apple users are out of luck. i think they will just stuff this Link in the car and charge a extra $1000 bucks. Right now there are around 8 phones with both NFC and wireless Qi charging and around 5-6 that has NFC but you can get a wireless back plate.


To be fair, Apple has announced many car manufacturers will be including built in Siri support in their upcoming models.
 
2012-12-30 08:49:59 PM
I think it's one of the features of the new BYD cars in China. Maybe the F6? Let's you use a phone to remote control your car and is supposed to be used in tight parking spots.

I am not sure if it's really an improvement though. Have stupid drivers behind the wheel and controlling the car or having stupid drivers using their phone to steer the car.
 
2012-12-30 10:58:23 PM

taurusowner: As neat as I think a lot of this is, I think being able to unlock the car with your phone or an NFC tag is a bad idea. I think that would just make it even easier for someone to spoof the identity of your phone and steal your car.


So how is this easy?
 
2012-12-31 09:22:39 AM

OriginalGamer: Linux_Yes: better hope your smart phone is running the Linux based Android. otherwise, you could be in trouble if it picks up an infection or some adware/spyware.

Yeah, because Android has no malware, remote rooting, or virus issues. Oh, wait...



yea? from users who download/install software from untrusted sources. no OS can protect against that.
 
2012-12-31 09:25:47 AM

OriginalGamer: Linux_Yes: better hope your smart phone is running the Linux based Android. otherwise, you could be in trouble if it picks up an infection or some adware/spyware.

Yeah, because Android has no malware, remote rooting, or virus issues. Oh, wait...


you need to learn more about Linux.  do some research on google about it before advertising your ignorance.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:27 AM

Linux_Yes: OriginalGamer: Linux_Yes: better hope your smart phone is running the Linux based Android. otherwise, you could be in trouble if it picks up an infection or some adware/spyware.

Yeah, because Android has no malware, remote rooting, or virus issues. Oh, wait...

you need to learn more about Linux.  do some research on google about it before advertising your ignorance.


I know quite a bit about Linux, I was one of the developers behind the Dreamcast port.

That said, it's somewhat ironic that you say an Android based soution is somehow inherently more secure than a Microsoft one, yet the amount of malware and security issues on Android begs to differ.
 
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