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(WorldNetDaily)   Old and busted: basing a political philosophy on the writings of Ayn Rand. New hotness: basing a political philosophy on the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien   (wnd.com) divider line 134
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2012-12-29 04:05:37 PM  
by ALAN KEYES

...and that says it all right there.
 
2012-12-29 04:17:27 PM  
www.timeforkids.com

But they were all of them deceived, for another Ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, The Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring, to control all others. And into this Ring, he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all.
 
2012-12-29 04:25:55 PM  

Weaver95: [www.timeforkids.com image 487x260]

But they were all of them deceived, for another Ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, The Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring, to control all others. And into this Ring, he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all.


Gotta say, if Mitt's team had tried to make the One Ring, it would have shorted out and fried Mitt's finger.
 
2012-12-29 04:30:22 PM  
So... Catholicism, then?
 
2012-12-29 04:58:43 PM  
Courtesy of Jackson Herring
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-29 05:04:20 PM  

St_Francis_P: Weaver95: [www.timeforkids.com image 487x260]

But they were all of them deceived, for another Ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, The Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring, to control all others. And into this Ring, he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all.

Gotta say, if Mitt's team had tried to make the One Ring, it would have shorted out and fried Mitt's finger.


yeah, but when I think of cruelty, malice and will to dominate all life...I think of the Republican party.  mind you, I didn't say they were competent at being evil...merely that the term 'sleepless malice' certainly fits the description of GOP ideology.
 
2012-12-29 05:05:18 PM  
"Dark Lord Sauron"

"Perhaps, in what seems the hour of Sauron's triumph in America, we will discover, as so many of our forebears did, that the little things you are willing to do with no ambition but to keep good faith intact, prepare you to do greater things than vainly great ambition ever dreams of. With that in mind, we "tea party hobbits" may yet have it in us to do a little Shire scouring ourselves, in the year ahead."


We get it, he's black.

/yes, I know what Alan Keyes looks like
 
2012-12-29 05:09:57 PM  
The only thing I like based on Tolkien is my classic rock and roll.
 
2012-12-29 05:22:15 PM  
I tried to read the whole thing.  I really tried.
 
2012-12-29 05:35:46 PM  
Considering Tolkien was a devout Carholic and was really a conservationist by inclination, he really had no care for politics. He thought the industrial progression ruined life quality.

Lord of the Rings was a morality play of good vs evil. Of simple pleasures over greed.
 
2012-12-29 05:42:54 PM  
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

/oblig
 
2012-12-29 05:51:58 PM  
I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In
 
2012-12-29 06:21:32 PM  
I prefer getting mine from Vonnegut.

So it goes...
 
2012-12-29 06:25:59 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In


Oh, and ugly things are evil.
 
2012-12-29 06:28:54 PM  
Wait...

There's a similarity in analysis by poorly-educated, simplistic people with illusions of their own superiority and delusions about what a perfect society might be, so long as it involves magic that supports their side?

(Aside from the fact that that describes a typical GOP supporter these days)

Who knew?
 
2012-12-29 06:31:31 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In

Oh, and ugly things are evil.


Strange, I thought they were orange.
 
2012-12-29 06:34:20 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In


Gollum didn't crave power, he didn't know what that meant. He just wanted his Precious back.
 
2012-12-29 06:35:58 PM  
That was adorable. Every few years the repubs feel obliged to trot out the old "common man/little people/Silent Majority/salt of the earth" schtick and pretend that's who they stand for. I guess this is going a little overboard on the "little people" metaphor, but whatever. I particularly liked this line:

"When they wrote the Constitution, America's founders decided to make the multitude of decent, ordinary folks the arbiters of the sovereign power of government in the United States. This wasn't just some Machiavellian ploy, intended to pacify the masses by getting them to validate, with the appearance of consent, their servitude to this or that elitist gang."

Yes, the multitude of decent, ordinary folks who were exclusively male, owned property, couldn't vote for their own Senators, and most emphatically did not include Mr. Keyes' ancestors. And of course, whether or not servitude was involved (see previous comment about Mr. Keyes) the elitism in both the North and especially the South was pretty rampant. Mr. Keyes could have made his extended riff make so much more sense if he'd centered it around Andrew Jackson, but then his readership certainly would not have gotten the reference; it doesn't fit into their simplistic narrative.

Once again a right wing pundit has nothing to say, but says it anyway. Gotta pay the bills, I guess.
 
2012-12-29 06:37:48 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In

Oh, and ugly things are evil.


Well, evil things are ugly.
 
2012-12-29 06:38:41 PM  
I for one am anxiously awaiting the introduction of pro-Hobbit policies.
 
2012-12-29 06:43:32 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Considering Tolkien was a devout Carholic and was really a conservationist by inclination, he really had no care for politics. He thought the industrial progression ruined life quality.

Lord of the Rings was a morality play of good vs evil. Of simple pleasures over greed.


Although some parts were almost lifted from Catholic liturgy almost word for word.
 
2012-12-29 06:48:38 PM  
Teaparty are not hobbits, Hobbits are not afraid to do what must be done. The tea party is afraid to face reality.
 
2012-12-29 06:51:02 PM  

Weaver95: One Cock Ring to rule fark them all.


FTFY
 
2012-12-29 06:52:04 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: He thought the industrial progression ruined life quality.


This is the primary message I took away from LOTR - most of the things he seemed to favor were those things close to or living in harmony with nature. The Shire (the prototypical pastoral English village, Tom Bombadil (who seems to have a special relationship with the natural world) and the elves and rangers (who guard and live in harmony with the natural world) are seen as things to aspire to. Saruman's great sin? Destroying the land to build his great machinery. He disapproves of the dwarves digging in the earth and utilizing its resources and punishes them by having them dig too deep and release something ancient and evil - there are too many examples of this to not consider it one of the main themes of the books.
 
2012-12-29 06:52:52 PM  
Alan Keyes is the Republican Gríma son of Galmod.
 
2012-12-29 06:55:24 PM  
"With that in mind, we "tea party hobbits" may yet have it in us to do a little Shire scouring ourselves, in the year ahead."

*faceplam*

He doesn't understand that the scouring of the Shire was done by the bad people and the hobbits fought against the scouring.

Tea Baggers being dumb as posts? Unpossible!.
 
2012-12-29 06:58:04 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In


You sir, WANT us to believe that you bring nothing but positive change. But what would you say about trees that try to strangle and MURDER people? Do you expect the people to BELIEVE that you just happened by chance, BY CHANCE, to have walked along just at the right time when four hobbits were being killed by an old willow? And that you saved them? Sir, that is facetious and insulting.

/Witch King and Khamul the Easterling in 2016!
 
2012-12-29 07:05:18 PM  
When they wrote the Constitution, America's founders decided to make the multitude of decent, ordinary folks the arbiters of the sovereign power of government in the United States.

Which explains the founders' inclination to expand the franchise only to rich, white dudes and not to other people and non-people chattel, like the blacks.

Perhaps, in what seems the hour of Sauron's triumph in America. . . .

"Sauron," of course, is an epithet that means "the Abhorred." Sauron earned this moniker when he sought to expand health insurance coverage, at the margins, to the citizens of Middle Earth. With their consent and approval, as expressed through democratic institutions. (Tolkien explains this in the Silmarillion.)
 
2012-12-29 07:08:17 PM  
The Derp goes ever ever on...
 
2012-12-29 07:09:58 PM  

grimlock1972: Teaparty are not hobbits, Hobbits are not afraid to do what must be done. The tea party is afraid to face reality.


Sackville-Baggins? I would say the TeaParty falls right into character
 
2012-12-29 07:10:34 PM  
speaking of movies and race in regards to Alan Keyes...DJANGO UNCHAINED IS AWESOME!!!!
 
2012-12-29 07:11:10 PM  

Gyrfalcon: ArcadianRefugee: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In

Oh, and ugly things are evil.

Well, evil things are ugly.


Not true! Melkor and Sauron appeared as fair beings when they first corrupted man and the Drúedain were like ugly Dwarves.

/nerd
 
2012-12-29 07:12:53 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I can dig a system based around Tolkien.

Society agrees that items of great destruction must be destroyed or heavily regulated - The Rings
Elven people offered free healthcare and food to visitors - Lady Galadriel
Honor for the whole is emphasized when presented with a rightful claim - Undead Army of Dunharrow
Those most crazy for power are destroyed in a wonderfully ironic fashion - Gollum

Tom Bombadil 2016: Yellow Boots We Can Believe In


That was beautiful. Is féidir do laethanta a líonadh le sonas
 
2012-12-29 07:14:46 PM  

Snapper Carr: Darth_Lukecash: He thought the industrial progression ruined life quality.

This is the primary message I took away from LOTR - most of the things he seemed to favor were those things close to or living in harmony with nature. The Shire (the prototypical pastoral English village, Tom Bombadil (who seems to have a special relationship with the natural world) and the elves and rangers (who guard and live in harmony with the natural world) are seen as things to aspire to. Saruman's great sin? Destroying the land to build his great machinery. He disapproves of the dwarves digging in the earth and utilizing its resources and punishes them by having them dig too deep and release something ancient and evil - there are too many examples of this to not consider it one of the main themes of the books.


Keep in mind that dwarves were corrupted by Saurons ring, that greed was enhanced by by the seven rings. The elves only eascaped that fate due to their experience of being corrupted by the Similaris by Morgoth.

There were a few dwarves that had remained strong enough to resist. But the main thing about Ring was how the corruption of ambition. Gladrial, Gandalf almost fell to the rings power. Frodo, Bilbo, Boramir and countless others were corrupted. A few, Samwise and Faramir were strong about who they were. In Faramirs case he was a warrior poet who loved his people, Sam realized he was a simple gardener. Tom Bombaldi was a cypher.. The ring had no effect in him-but Gandalf noted that Bombaldi had no concept of how important the ring was and wouldn't protect it.
 
2012-12-29 07:15:57 PM  
Come in wanting to see something about all people uniting for the common good.

Left sad that it's more 'LOTR supports MY bigoted\idiotic theories!' crap.

/This guy does know about those 'Hobbit camps', right?
 
2012-12-29 07:17:31 PM  

Orange-Pippin: grimlock1972: Teaparty are not hobbits, Hobbits are not afraid to do what must be done. The tea party is afraid to face reality.

Sackville-Baggins? I would say the TeaParty falls right into character


In fact, hobbits are not prone to like outsiders, care about the bigger world or go on adventures.
 
2012-12-29 07:18:44 PM  

Snapper Carr: Darth_Lukecash: He thought the industrial progression ruined life quality.

This is the primary message I took away from LOTR - most of the things he seemed to favor were those things close to or living in harmony with nature. The Shire (the prototypical pastoral English village, Tom Bombadil (who seems to have a special relationship with the natural world) and the elves and rangers (who guard and live in harmony with the natural world) are seen as things to aspire to. Saruman's great sin? Destroying the land to build his great machinery. He disapproves of the dwarves digging in the earth and utilizing its resources and punishes them by having them dig too deep and release something ancient and evil - there are too many examples of this to not consider it one of the main themes of the books.


Tokien was fairly right wing and religious. He believed in a natural order and was against things that upset it. By the natural order kings deserved to be kings by royal blood and if everybody knew their place then all would be in harmony. Legitimate kings would be wise which would lead to happy peasants proud to be subjects.

His books have a reputation of being hippie books but I don't think they really espoused any sort of leftist philosophy. It was just that they became popular during the hippie era and pot smokers enjoy reading fantasy.
 
2012-12-29 07:19:50 PM  
Eagles = tax cuts.
 
2012-12-29 07:24:37 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Orange-Pippin: grimlock1972: Teaparty are not hobbits, Hobbits are not afraid to do what must be done. The tea party is afraid to face reality.

Sackville-Baggins? I would say the TeaParty falls right into character

In fact, hobbits are not prone to like outsiders, care about the bigger world or go on adventures.


I can't knock them for being insular. I would argue that the Hobbits are more like the Amish (minus religion). The Sackville-Baggins on the other hand, are obnoxious, greedy and "never really well-liked."
 
2012-12-29 07:24:57 PM  
Somebody's been smoking a bit too much Longbottom Leaf.
 
2012-12-29 07:25:35 PM  

PsiChick: Come in wanting to see something about all people uniting for the common good.


We could probably get a healthy majority to agree with the statement "Alan Keyes is a fkn lunatic"
 
2012-12-29 07:26:30 PM  
FACT: Tolkien's description of the Witch-King of Angmar was based on the vice presidency of Joe Biden.
 
2012-12-29 07:26:45 PM  

Orange-Pippin: grimlock1972: Teaparty are not hobbits, Hobbits are not afraid to do what must be done. The tea party is afraid to face reality.

Sackville-Baggins? I would say the TeaParty falls right into character


Okay I'll give you them.
 
2012-12-29 07:31:11 PM  
My opponent says he's hungry before brunch and after breakfast, but I put it to you, my opponent has never even heard of second breakfast.
 
2012-12-29 07:31:36 PM  

born_yesterday: Eagles = tax cuts.


that would explain why they keep losing this year.
 
2012-12-29 07:32:14 PM  

Smirkles: FACT: Tolkien's description of the Witch-King of Angmar was based on the vice presidency of Joe Biden.


"Sauron"
"Soros"
"Sauron"
"Soros"

Coincidence?  I think not
 
2012-12-29 07:33:14 PM  
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And Tolkien, a WW I vet, was basing his writings on is experiences in the trench warfare hellholes of the Great War.

Hence the dark, moody, apocalyptic battle-type nature of his writings.

At least that bastard was lucky enough to survive the war. Unlike literary geniuses such as Wilfred Owen.

I doubt Tolkien would take kindly to his writings being used by so called 'conservatives' who advocate for war profiteers such as large multinational corporations, to help their cause.
 
2012-12-29 07:35:09 PM  
That has to be the most boring political party ever. And way too much walking.
 
2012-12-29 07:36:17 PM  

mitchcumstein1: The only thing I like based on Tolkien is my classic rock and roll.


Paul Ryan has Led Zeppelin on his IPod. QED

/dnrtfa, stopped at "World Net Daily"; what I look like, a masochist?
 
2012-12-29 07:41:31 PM  
chawedrosin.files.wordpress.com

/Hot like the fires of Mt. Doom
 
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