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(Natural News)   News: Facebook removed account that had a pro-gun quote. Fark. The quote was from Gandhi   (naturalnews.com) divider line 28
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2012-12-29 01:13:13 PM
4 votes:
That is a Gandhi quote

/an out of context and misrepresented Gandhi quote
2012-12-29 12:46:58 PM
4 votes:
I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.
2012-12-29 01:31:40 PM
3 votes:
By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas.
We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.
2012-12-29 12:49:30 PM
3 votes:
I know nothing about this NaturalNews website, but the fact that they seem to be cool with Infowars is rather telling.
2012-12-29 04:47:23 PM
2 votes:
FTFA: We have entered the era of the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's 1984 novel. And while Facebook assaults the First Amendment in America,


Whoever wrote this just may be farking retarded.

Protip: It is absolutely impossible for Facebook to assault your first amendment rights.
2012-12-29 03:32:38 PM
2 votes:
"Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein
2012-12-29 03:12:04 PM
2 votes:
We have entered the era of the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's 1984 novel. And while Facebook assaults the First Amendment in America,

Uh, yeah. So, when did Facebook become an arm of the government? Because that's who the first amendment applies to. A private organization- i.e. Facebook- can censor whatever speech it wants to from its servers. You then ALSO have the right to set up your OWN social network that allows such speech. But that takes work, so instead, just go whine on the internets about how Facebook is taking away your rights and how it's all so orwellian, and what if Facebook starts banning quotes from Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, etc. fark off and go start your own social network- no one is stopping you. That's the great thing about freedom- Facebook is FREE to allow and disallow whatever it wants to on its site. You, in turn, can do the same. Unless you want the government to step in and tell Facebook it MUST allow anything on its site. Or to tell it what it can and can't have displayed. now THAT would TRULY be "orwellian."
2012-12-29 01:20:39 PM
2 votes:
I wonder what other stuff that person had on their account besides a picture of Gandhi and a gun quote, because it sure as hell wasn't that image that got them suspended.
2012-12-29 01:10:58 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, NaturalNews is one of those freaky weird conspiracy theory sites. F*ck them.
2012-12-29 12:57:55 PM
2 votes:

Shostie: I know nothing about this NaturalNews website, but the fact that they seem to be cool with Infowars is rather telling.


I had similar thoughts.  Upon seeing InfoWars, I knew I could stop reading as the rest was probably hyperbole bullshiat (at best).
2012-12-29 05:16:26 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."


How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying
2012-12-29 03:58:19 PM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.


...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.
2012-12-29 03:35:52 PM
1 votes:
Facebook is a corporation you have no right to free or unmoderated speech there. Don't like it? Make your own social networking site.
2012-12-29 03:35:34 PM
1 votes:

HighOnCraic: "Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein


+1
2012-12-29 02:05:43 PM
1 votes:
So what? Facebook has no obligation to permit you to do anything... it is their site to ruin/make good as they please.
2012-12-29 02:05:02 PM
1 votes:
Even if everything this nutbag said was true (it's not, but just suppose), then you are using Facebook. TOS of Facebook says they can suspend your account for anything. They make the rules.
2012-12-29 02:00:36 PM
1 votes:
How is this not obvious to all?

They are selling bullshiat natural supplements.
The absolute stupidest people on Earth are the conspiracy nut jobs.

BS natural supplements + conspiracy nut job crap on the same site = $$$.

Angling for a ban from facebook and the associated posting about it is what passes for the best marketing to sites like this.
2012-12-29 01:58:39 PM
1 votes:
I've got a FB friend who has posts dozens of "pro-gun" quotes and poorly shooped images macros every single day*, and FB hasn't removed his account yet, so I'm slightly suspicious that Natural News hasn't told me the whole story.

* He's like a derp seismograph. Whatever shows up in my news feed from him will undoubtedly be pouring out of the media puke funnel in a few days.
2012-12-29 01:50:41 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, the nuttier of my pro-gun friends seem to all think that anything pro-gun that they post is going to immediately be removed. You know, because of tyranny.

Listen asshat, they didn't ban you for posting your racist anti-Obama images, they're not going to ban you for posting part of the hearing on the Brady bill.

/Idiots
//Paranoid idiots
2012-12-29 01:47:45 PM
1 votes:
About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.
2012-12-29 01:41:49 PM
1 votes:
It's not Facebook that is the problem. Its the uptight twits that reported it so it's get pulled.
2012-12-29 01:40:10 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

So, Gandhi was advocating membership in a well-regulated militia?

That sounds like a good idea.


Uh, no. He was advocating formal enlistment in a military.
2012-12-29 01:31:00 PM
1 votes:
This being NaturalNews, I'm forced to assume that they weren't banned, said nothing about guns, and likely never existed in the first place. I'm beginning to doubt the existence of Gandhi and Facebook, as well.
2012-12-29 01:18:53 PM
1 votes:
*sniff*

Anyone else smell bullshiat?
2012-12-29 01:13:28 PM
1 votes:
Wow... This lie has been sub'd here from InfoWars, some other lunatic outlets, and now... The anti-vax morons?

That's called earning your green. Poor Subby had to really trudge through the dense mire of the collective paranoia of people for whom reality is so damn boring they need to hump the voices in their heads for excitement.
2012-12-29 12:59:50 PM
1 votes:
Natural News makes WND look like the Financial Times.
2012-12-29 12:55:53 PM
1 votes:
facebook seems to be a bit heavy handed lately with the moderation/bannination of various accounts.
2012-12-29 12:45:06 PM
1 votes:
Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.
 
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