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2012-12-29 12:45:06 PM  
Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.
 
2012-12-29 12:46:58 PM  
I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.
 
2012-12-29 12:49:30 PM  
I know nothing about this NaturalNews website, but the fact that they seem to be cool with Infowars is rather telling.
 
2012-12-29 12:55:53 PM  
facebook seems to be a bit heavy handed lately with the moderation/bannination of various accounts.
 
2012-12-29 12:57:55 PM  

Shostie: I know nothing about this NaturalNews website, but the fact that they seem to be cool with Infowars is rather telling.


I had similar thoughts.  Upon seeing InfoWars, I knew I could stop reading as the rest was probably hyperbole bullshiat (at best).
 
2012-12-29 12:58:47 PM  
Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged
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2012-12-29 12:59:50 PM  
Natural News makes WND look like the Financial Times.
 
2012-12-29 01:10:58 PM  
Yeah, NaturalNews is one of those freaky weird conspiracy theory sites. F*ck them.
 
2012-12-29 01:13:13 PM  
That is a Gandhi quote

/an out of context and misrepresented Gandhi quote
 
2012-12-29 01:13:28 PM  
Wow... This lie has been sub'd here from InfoWars, some other lunatic outlets, and now... The anti-vax morons?

That's called earning your green. Poor Subby had to really trudge through the dense mire of the collective paranoia of people for whom reality is so damn boring they need to hump the voices in their heads for excitement.
 
2012-12-29 01:16:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: That is a Gandhi quote

/an out of context and misrepresented Gandhi quote


i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-29 01:18:53 PM  
*sniff*

Anyone else smell bullshiat?
 
2012-12-29 01:20:39 PM  
I wonder what other stuff that person had on their account besides a picture of Gandhi and a gun quote, because it sure as hell wasn't that image that got them suspended.
 
2012-12-29 01:28:17 PM  
At that time, the people of India faced a menace even Greater than British rule: Legions of pigs.  Fortunately, after Gandhi convinced teachers to carry AR-15s at all times, the porcine horde was conquered and they could then turn their attention to the British.

The rest is history.
 
2012-12-29 01:28:39 PM  
First they laugh at you, then you blow their farking heads off
 
2012-12-29 01:29:37 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I wonder what other stuff that person had on their account besides a picture of Gandhi and a gun quote, because it sure as hell wasn't that image that got them suspended.


This is what I was thinking.
 
2012-12-29 01:30:25 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-29 01:31:00 PM  
This being NaturalNews, I'm forced to assume that they weren't banned, said nothing about guns, and likely never existed in the first place. I'm beginning to doubt the existence of Gandhi and Facebook, as well.
 
2012-12-29 01:31:01 PM  

RexTalionis: Yeah, NaturalNews is one of those freaky weird conspiracy theory sites. F*ck them.


Yup.
 
2012-12-29 01:31:06 PM  
There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?
 
2012-12-29 01:31:40 PM  
By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas.
We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.
 
2012-12-29 01:31:56 PM  
Anyone have the context of his quote? When ever I try my google fu, I get all the right wing web sites using it as gospel.
 
2012-12-29 01:32:46 PM  

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.


Nevermind, thanks.
 
2012-12-29 01:33:28 PM  

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You liar. Gandhi didn't make that webpage!!!11!
 
2012-12-29 01:35:41 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?


People are stupid. Explained.
 
2012-12-29 01:36:22 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?


People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.
 
2012-12-29 01:37:01 PM  
Dear Facebook User:

It has come to our attention that you have circulated an image that was a.) not based on an e-card, or b.) did not contain the image of a cat, in violation of the terms of service.

For this reason, your Facebook account has been suspended.
 
2012-12-29 01:38:10 PM  
Truly, we've hit a strain of pure derp. Get out your pickaxes, boys, we won't be wanting for nothing this year!
 
2012-12-29 01:39:21 PM  

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.


So, Gandhi was advocating membership in a well-regulated militia?

That sounds like a good idea.
 
2012-12-29 01:39:34 PM  
To summarize for all those who are tl;dr:

Gandhi saw that a necessary step for Indian independence is that India must have its own Army in order to be on a more equal footing within the Empire, as other Commonwealth States like Canada, South Africa and Australia do. He is advocating for the creation of an Indian Army with the Viceroy that would allow for India to defend itself rather than relying on the occupation of British military.
 
2012-12-29 01:39:35 PM  
Hmm... a part of me wonders if FB thought perhaps they were making a racial slur. Assuming there is any truth to what these asshats have claimed in the first place. Having the connection to infowars doesn't exactly add to the credibility of their story. Generally speaking, if it's on infowars, it's bullshiat.
 
2012-12-29 01:39:41 PM  
Well if facebook does bannation for pro gun stuff then I should have been banned a longtime ago
 
2012-12-29 01:40:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

So, Gandhi was advocating membership in a well-regulated militia?

That sounds like a good idea.


Uh, no. He was advocating formal enlistment in a military.
 
2012-12-29 01:41:39 PM  

JohnnyC: Hmm... a part of me wonders if FB thought perhaps they were making a racial slur. Assuming there is any truth to what these asshats have claimed in the first place. Having the connection to infowars doesn't exactly add to the credibility of their story. Generally speaking, if it's on infowars, it's bullshiat.


Unless we get a statement from Facebook itself, there is absolutely no reason to believe that the ban was related to the gun quote at all. Considering the source, they were probably posting all sorts of crap that actually was a violation of the ToS.
 
2012-12-29 01:41:48 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.


If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?
 
2012-12-29 01:41:49 PM  
I'm having a hard time believing that it was the Ghandi quote that got their arses handed to them by Facebook.
 
2012-12-29 01:41:49 PM  
It's not Facebook that is the problem. Its the uptight twits that reported it so it's get pulled.
 
2012-12-29 01:42:48 PM  
Wait..can't Natural News and Facebook both suck?
 
2012-12-29 01:43:28 PM  
Facebook officials became suspicious when the quote ended with the line "...and when we're done kicking some ass we're heading to Golden Corral!"
 
2012-12-29 01:43:42 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.


But is that even a problem on facebook?
 
2012-12-29 01:44:07 PM  

Mrbogey: It's not Facebook that is the problem. Its the uptight twits that reported it so it's get pulled.


Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.
 
2012-12-29 01:47:45 PM  
About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.
 
2012-12-29 01:50:41 PM  
Yeah, the nuttier of my pro-gun friends seem to all think that anything pro-gun that they post is going to immediately be removed. You know, because of tyranny.

Listen asshat, they didn't ban you for posting your racist anti-Obama images, they're not going to ban you for posting part of the hearing on the Brady bill.

/Idiots
//Paranoid idiots
 
2012-12-29 01:51:53 PM  
More recently, Adams has begun to formulate bizarre conspiracy theories claiming that Bill Gates and Microsoft are in the process of developing weaponized, ethnically-targeted influenza viruses as part of a sinister eugenics plot.

I'm sure this dude's totally on the level about the whole Facebook thing.
 
2012-12-29 01:52:52 PM  
Or, maybe the nutter is posting things like this on FB:


Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are an elaborate CIA spying scheme
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038491_social_media_CIA_spying.html#ixzz2G T 6r5K3u
 
2012-12-29 01:52:58 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

But is that even a problem on facebook?


It was probably started by someone's grandma who saw a picture of a teenager in a bikini.
 
2012-12-29 01:53:28 PM  
"blackest"? That's racist!
 
2012-12-29 01:53:49 PM  

sigdiamond2000: More recently, Adams has begun to formulate bizarre conspiracy theories claiming that Bill Gates and Microsoft are in the process of developing weaponized, ethnically-targeted influenza viruses as part of a sinister eugenics plot.

I'm sure this dude's totally on the level about the whole Facebook thing.


This totally explains Windows 8.
 
2012-12-29 01:54:01 PM  

RexTalionis: Lionel Mandrake: RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

So, Gandhi was advocating membership in a well-regulated militia?

That sounds like a good idea.

Uh, no. He was advocating formal enlistment in a military.


OK.  A well-regulated military.

I was being facetious.  Or fatuous.  Whatever.
 
2012-12-29 01:54:07 PM  

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.


From your link:
Adams calls himself a holistic nutritionist and is a raw food proponent who opposes food that contains sugar, food that was cooked or made to last, "red" meat, sweeteners, glutamate, homogenized milk, bread and "white" flour, washing powder of some brands, deodorants, shampoos and fluoride toothpaste.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-29 01:54:16 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.



Not true. a couple weeks ago there was a group that got a pic yanked due to complaints despite it not being against their TOS. When they reposted it their account got banned. Most websites will pull things based on complaints with minimal review.
 
2012-12-29 01:54:25 PM  

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among and every other -er things.


Fixed for accuracy. He seems to be every kind of crazy simultaneously.
 
2012-12-29 01:55:04 PM  

dr_blasto: Or, maybe the nutter is posting things like this on FB:


Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are an elaborate CIA spying scheme
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038491_social_media_CIA_spying.html#ixzz2G T 6r5K3u


Hell, it probably wasn't even that. If Facebook censors people for slandering them, they do a really crappy job of it.

The site's page probably got pulled for something like being improperly tagged as a person's page instead of a group's, or any number of other possibilities.
 
2012-12-29 01:56:52 PM  

Mrbogey: Mrtraveler01: Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.


Not true. a couple weeks ago there was a group that got a pic yanked due to complaints despite it not being against their TOS. When they reposted it their account got banned. Most websites will pull things based on complaints with minimal review.


What was it a pic of?

I have a feeling there is much more to the story than this.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:39 PM  
I've got a FB friend who has posts dozens of "pro-gun" quotes and poorly shooped images macros every single day*, and FB hasn't removed his account yet, so I'm slightly suspicious that Natural News hasn't told me the whole story.

* He's like a derp seismograph. Whatever shows up in my news feed from him will undoubtedly be pouring out of the media puke funnel in a few days.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:39 PM  
I assume they got suspended because they finally crossed a threshold of enough people flagging their posts as spam, and the timing was coincidental (but convenient for this whining.)

Natural News is a spammy SEO sinkhole, so I have no doubt they use their Facebook page in a similarly awful way and people get tired of seeing that shiat.

As a page admins you have access to analytics that will tell you when you get negative feedback for a post. If we could see those records right now, I imagine they would tell us that it's not Facebook who has the problem, but the page's own subscribers.

And it takes waaaaay more than a couple flags to get yanked like this. Any page with a certain number of fans will get a certain number of flags. They must have really blown it.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:47 PM  
OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?
 
2012-12-29 02:00:36 PM  
How is this not obvious to all?

They are selling bullshiat natural supplements.
The absolute stupidest people on Earth are the conspiracy nut jobs.

BS natural supplements + conspiracy nut job crap on the same site = $$$.

Angling for a ban from facebook and the associated posting about it is what passes for the best marketing to sites like this.
 
2012-12-29 02:01:44 PM  

Orange-Pippin: sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.

From your link:
Adams calls himself a holistic nutritionist and is a raw food proponent who opposes food that contains sugar, food that was cooked or made to last, "red" meat, sweeteners, glutamate, homogenized milk, bread and "white" flour, washing powder of some brands, deodorants, shampoos and fluoride toothpaste.

[i.imgur.com image 84x56]


media.tumblr.com

NO HOMO milk
 
2012-12-29 02:04:22 PM  

Pincy: OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?


Well aren't you cool?

www.benphoster.com

Link

Is "not having a Facebook account" the new "not owning a TV"?
 
2012-12-29 02:05:02 PM  
Even if everything this nutbag said was true (it's not, but just suppose), then you are using Facebook. TOS of Facebook says they can suspend your account for anything. They make the rules.
 
2012-12-29 02:05:43 PM  
So what? Facebook has no obligation to permit you to do anything... it is their site to ruin/make good as they please.
 
2012-12-29 02:09:44 PM  
Gandhi's goal was, at one point, to make Indians equal subjects of the English Crown, or likely, a member of the British Commonwealth. He served in the Second Boer War, in the ambulance corps. He supported Indians fighting on the British side in World War I, and the first half of WW2. It's the rise of that racist arch-imperialist Churchill, when it became clear that Britain is never going to consider brown people equal English citizens, that Gandhi called for the British to "Quit India," as late as 1942.

Every time the conservatives in this country talk about Churchill like he was the second coming of Jesus, I snort. He is to Indians what Lord North was to Americans. A tyrannical Prime Minister who precipitated the severance of the colony from the crown (okay, I am a little exaggerating here).
 
2012-12-29 02:11:19 PM  

Mrtraveler01: What was it a pic of?


It was a pic about Benghazi. The posters were a PAC formed by Former SpecOps. It blasted Obama for it.

The story is just that simple. The NRA had a similar issue with AOL back in the day. People would sign up for the newsletter then report it as spam. So it'd keep getting blacklisted by AOL.
 
2012-12-29 02:11:33 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Pincy: OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?

Well aren't you cool?

[www.benphoster.com image 665x633]

Link

Is "not having a Facebook account" the new "not owning a TV"?


No.  Not owning a TV is too mainstream.  The new cool is ironically watching a lot of TV.

Or, it was until I pointed it out.
 
2012-12-29 02:11:53 PM  

whitman00: How is this not obvious to all?

They are selling bullshiat natural supplements.
The absolute stupidest people on Earth are the conspiracy nut jobs.

BS natural supplements + conspiracy nut job crap on the same site = $$$.

Angling for a ban from facebook and the associated posting about it is what passes for the best marketing to sites like this.


Yep.  This allows them to start doing the "nature's cures/gun facts that THEY don't want you to know about" thing that makes them seem more legit to schizophrenics.
 
2012-12-29 02:15:19 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?


I'm guessing it has something to do with a certain WND article series about it that crossed enough lines that I'm not willing to post a link. They had a warning at the beginning that the photos they were publishing were some of the mildest they had seen on their investigation.
 
2012-12-29 02:18:38 PM  

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.



That's odd... because I remember most of British colonization of India, and they routinely armed the locals. If the locals weren't armed, then why in the hell would the Sepoy Mutiny have occurred - it being spawned by a rumor that the cartridges were greased with pig fat to make them waterproof.
 
2012-12-29 02:20:09 PM  
And then why would he say "If we want to learn the use of arms... it is our duty to enlist in the army."

Because that blatantly, clearly, without a doubt shows that the indians int he military were armed. WHY DO YOU LIE SO FREAKING HARD?! THE QUOTE YOU GIVE SHOWS YOU'RE FULL OF SHIAT.
 
2012-12-29 02:20:50 PM  

dr_blasto: Or, maybe the nutter is posting things like this on FB:


Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are an elaborate CIA spying scheme
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038491_social_media_CIA_spying.html#ixzz2G T 6r5K3u


welcome to my favourites list dr blasto
 
2012-12-29 02:21:02 PM  

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.


I'm shocked. Really.

/ok, not really.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:06 PM  
well, A. I'm calling bullhit cause my right-wing friends post it all the time and 2. you can't get all supportive of chick-fil-a taking up a anti-gay stance then get mad a private company taking up a anti-gun tance.

assuming its true, which, considering its a right wing source, means theres a 99.99% chance of it being wrong, taken out of context or a flat out lie.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:29 PM  

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.


He also references all his claims with links to other pages on his site that he wrote himself, and just so happens to sell the things you *really* need to be healthy.
 
2012-12-29 02:39:02 PM  

kmramki: It's the rise of that racist arch-imperialist Churchill


lolwut
 
2012-12-29 02:42:28 PM  

dr_blasto: Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.


I think it's mainly just one completely unhinged mofo.

www.naturalnews.com
 
2012-12-29 02:56:07 PM  
The funny part for me.

I saw this on infowars yesterday and many of the comments were complaining about how their posts were being removed.
 
2012-12-29 02:59:06 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Mrbogey: It's not Facebook that is the problem. Its the uptight twits that reported it so it's get pulled.

Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.


They had a list of accounts that were banned yesterday. I checked a bunch and they had recent activity on them
 
2012-12-29 03:00:08 PM  
Here is the article from Infowars

Link
 
2012-12-29 03:00:18 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.


I want to start a petition to shut down the petition site.
 
2012-12-29 03:02:10 PM  

wildcardjack: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

I want to start a petition to shut down the petition site.


I would sign that petition
 
2012-12-29 03:12:04 PM  
We have entered the era of the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's 1984 novel. And while Facebook assaults the First Amendment in America,

Uh, yeah. So, when did Facebook become an arm of the government? Because that's who the first amendment applies to. A private organization- i.e. Facebook- can censor whatever speech it wants to from its servers. You then ALSO have the right to set up your OWN social network that allows such speech. But that takes work, so instead, just go whine on the internets about how Facebook is taking away your rights and how it's all so orwellian, and what if Facebook starts banning quotes from Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, etc. fark off and go start your own social network- no one is stopping you. That's the great thing about freedom- Facebook is FREE to allow and disallow whatever it wants to on its site. You, in turn, can do the same. Unless you want the government to step in and tell Facebook it MUST allow anything on its site. Or to tell it what it can and can't have displayed. now THAT would TRULY be "orwellian."
 
2012-12-29 03:25:41 PM  
Sounds like a site for deep thinkers:

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in arena competition, lives in Newtown/Sandy Hook, and in real life someone(s) just killed 20 children in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Learn more: Link

I'm afraid to read the comments at the bottom of the page; maybe later after I've had a couple of beers. . .
 
2012-12-29 03:27:37 PM  

A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?


Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!
 
2012-12-29 03:27:54 PM  
If Gandhi said that you should jump off a bridge it wouldn't be any more poignant than if Joe the Plumber said it.  Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb.
 
2012-12-29 03:28:03 PM  

A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?


Other than the Tea Partiers, I don't know if you'd get many signatures on a petition to remove Obama's wang.
 
2012-12-29 03:32:38 PM  
"Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein
 
2012-12-29 03:35:34 PM  

HighOnCraic: "Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein


+1
 
2012-12-29 03:35:52 PM  
Facebook is a corporation you have no right to free or unmoderated speech there. Don't like it? Make your own social networking site.
 
2012-12-29 03:37:31 PM  

HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!


Once again,I am too slow.
 
2012-12-29 03:37:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ
 
2012-12-29 03:53:14 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.
 
2012-12-29 03:54:14 PM  

dr_blasto: Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.


Well, it's Facebook. That's all the explanation necessary.

/only person within 100 miles without an account
 
2012-12-29 03:58:19 PM  

s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.


...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.
 
2012-12-29 04:04:34 PM  

FloydA: HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!

Once again,I am too slow.


And besides, I really doubt that Obama is using one of these:
www.atariarchives.org
 
2012-12-29 04:17:16 PM  

HighOnCraic: FloydA: HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!

Once again,I am too slow.

And besides, I really doubt that Obama is using one of these:
[www.atariarchives.org image 397x326]


Ahahahahah you guys are amazing. I was more meaning that I wanted to start a petition about seeing his wang but you've guys turned it into something fantastic.
 
2012-12-29 04:20:42 PM  

zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ


"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy
 
2012-12-29 04:23:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: HighOnCraic: "Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein

+1


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

--Helen Keller
 
2012-12-29 04:26:19 PM  

HighOnCraic: zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy


Luke..."  -Colossians 4:14

"...I am..."  -Exodus 3:14

"...your father."  -Genesis 31:6
 
2012-12-29 04:27:44 PM  

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them.
As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.


Wrongo
He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns.
He said that "if we want to learn"...then they should enlist in the army...he didn't say that is the only way to have rights to use guns.
Did you not understand that last sentence?
 
2012-12-29 04:36:51 PM  

FloydA: HighOnCraic: zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy

Luke..."  -Colossians 4:14

"...I am..."  -Exodus 3:14

"...your father."  -Genesis 31:6


"I certainly didn't expect all this hoopla! And you can quote me on that."

--Grace Slick
 
2012-12-29 04:39:01 PM  
"But she was not just knee-deep, she was totally deep, when she did the freak with me."

--Bill Clinton
 
2012-12-29 04:47:23 PM  
FTFA: We have entered the era of the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's 1984 novel. And while Facebook assaults the First Amendment in America,


Whoever wrote this just may be farking retarded.

Protip: It is absolutely impossible for Facebook to assault your first amendment rights.
 
2012-12-29 04:50:36 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Wrongo
He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns.
He said that "if we want to learn"...then they should enlist in the army...he didn't say that is the only way to have rights to use guns.
Did you not understand that last sentence?


Its amazing that you can read the same statement as the rest of us, and somehow interpret it as saying something that it doesn't even slightly hint at.
 
2012-12-29 04:50:46 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-29 04:55:33 PM  

HighOnCraic: Sounds like a site for deep thinkers:

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in arena competition, lives in Newtown/Sandy Hook, and in real life someone(s) just killed 20 children in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Learn more: Link

I'm afraid to read the comments at the bottom of the page; maybe later after I've had a couple of beers. . .


This link now auto-refreshes to some other nonsense article. He must have noticed all the traffic coming in and done the ol' switcharoo.
 
2012-12-29 05:02:59 PM  
Mike Adams is a full on freak. He's one of the four horsemen of what I call the Aquackalypse. It's Adams, Dr. Mercola, Jeffrey Smith and Anthony Gucciardi.

Adams: "If Hitler had GMO technology, he would have fed GM corn to the Jews and not even bothered with the trouble of constructing gas chambers. He could have disguised it as a "government assistance" program, offering free food to all those of Jewish ancestry. Oh yes, and free vaccines, too. The combination of vaccine chemicals and GMO toxins would have accomplished much the same thing as Zyklon B, but instead of being perceived as an evil monster, Hitler could have been heralded as the hero of the Jewish people for giving them "free food and medicine!"
 
2012-12-29 05:04:46 PM  

no_dice: HighOnCraic: Sounds like a site for deep thinkers:

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in arena competition, lives in Newtown/Sandy Hook, and in real life someone(s) just killed 20 children in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Learn more: Link

I'm afraid to read the comments at the bottom of the page; maybe later after I've had a couple of beers. . .

This link now auto-refreshes to some other nonsense article. He must have noticed all the traffic coming in and done the ol' switcharoo.


Yeah, it was tricky just to get a quick cut-and-paste job done. I tried skimming down; apparently, the Skull and Bones people are involved because Yale and Sandy Hook are both in Connecticut. You just have to study it out and connect the dots. Waitasec. . . Connect . . . I . . . Cut.

IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!!!1111!!!!
 
2012-12-29 05:04:56 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: Wrongo
He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns.
He said that "if we want to learn"...then they should enlist in the army...he didn't say that is the only way to have rights to use guns.
Did you not understand that last sentence?

Its amazing that you can read the same statement as the rest of us, and somehow interpret it as saying something that it doesn't even slightly hint at.


He said:  "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely:  "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

 
2012-12-29 05:16:26 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."


How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying
 
2012-12-29 05:26:26 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying


Ten pounds of stupid, at least.
 
2012-12-29 05:32:56 PM  
Check out some of the ads:

www.naturalnews.comwww.naturalnews.comwww.naturalnews.com

I think that the real reason they got shut down was part of a conspiracy to promote cancer. Doctors love cancer, and they don't want people to realize how easy it is for cancer to be cured.
 
2012-12-29 05:32:59 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.

Wrongo
He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns.
He said that "if we want to ...


He wanted the Indians to enlist as he did when he fought for the British in the Boer war. Why would a pacifist want that? Because he hated the Kaffirs and enjoy killing them. He formed an Indian Volunteer Corps of 1400 men.

"However, at about 12 o'clock we finished the day's journey, with no Kaffirs to fight." ~ The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi, Government of India (CWMG), Vol. V, p. 262

Whats a kaffir?

Used especially in southern Africa as a disparaging term for a Black person.

He also stated Kaffirs were less than human. No better than the 'Untouchables' of India.

Gandhi was also a bit of a incestuous pedo, he used to sleep naked with several young girls including his young grandniece.
 
2012-12-29 05:36:23 PM  

wotthefark: Gandhi was also a bit of a incestuous pedo, he used to sleep naked with several young girls including his young grandniece.


Sleep with or have sex with?
 
2012-12-29 05:59:11 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: wotthefark: Gandhi was also a bit of a incestuous pedo, he used to sleep naked with several young girls including his young grandniece.

Sleep with or have sex with?


"A bit of an incestuous pedo" - means slept with naked but no penetration of orifices. It's still kinda farked up.
 
2012-12-29 06:03:58 PM  
FFS...another Natural News link. Did subby just recently discover this worthless, POS conspiracy site and think it would be funny to start linking more crap to the politics tab? Bad, bad subby.
 
2012-12-29 06:10:54 PM  
I'm so glad I didn't get a Facebook account...
 
2012-12-29 06:12:21 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying


No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.
 
2012-12-29 06:12:29 PM  

wotthefark:

He wanted the Indians to enlist as he did when he fought for the British in the Boer war. Why would a pacifist want that? Because he hated the

Relations between Indians and Blacks in South Africa have not always been cordial and have on at least one occasion turned violent. Note here that Gandhi *lived* in South Africa from 1893 to 1914.

upload.wikimedia.org

PS: Your Gandhi quote about having "no K***irs to fight" does not date from the Boer war, but from the Bambatha Uprising, a small British-Zulu war that took place in 1906, and in which Gandhi served on the British side as a medical corpsman.
 
2012-12-29 06:17:17 PM  

wotthefark: Lionel Mandrake: wotthefark: Gandhi was also a bit of a incestuous pedo, he used to sleep naked with several young girls including his young grandniece.

Sleep with or have sex with?

"A bit of an incestuous pedo" - means slept with naked but no penetration of orifices. It's still kinda farked up.


Yeah.  It's also kinda irrelevant.
 
2012-12-29 06:23:19 PM  

diaphoresis: I'm so glad I didn't get a Facebook account...


Well aren't you just superior to the rest of us? Do you feel like a big man now? Don't you know that over a billion people use Facebook and that you are worthless if you don't and furthermore, no one will hire you if you don't have a Facebook page? Welcome to obscurity pal.
 
2012-12-29 06:23:58 PM  

mksmith: dr_blasto: Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.

Well, it's Facebook. That's all the explanation necessary.

/only person within 100 miles without an account


", he says on Fark.com with absolutely no irony
 
2012-12-29 06:24:31 PM  

schrodinger: Check out some of the ads:



I think that the real reason they got shut down was part of a conspiracy to promote cancer. Doctors love cancer, and they don't want people to realize how easy it is for cancer to be cured.


Five GALLONS of colloidal silver?
 
2012-12-29 06:30:02 PM  

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).


On page 75 of the same PDF is this complaint:

"INTERMINABLE DELAY IS TAKING PLACE IN THE AMENDMENTS
OF THE ARMS ACT IN ORDER TO ENABLE THE GENERAL BODY OF
PEOPLE TO TAKE AND CARRY ARMS IF THEY SO DESIRE "
 Immediately following the sentence we are discussing is this one:  "If we want the Arms Act to be repealed, if we want to learn the use of arms, here is a golden opportunity. If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial, distrust will disappear, and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn."


Yes, Gandhi wanted an Indian Army.  But he also wanted the general population to regains its right to bear arms.  He was recruiting Indians to the British Army in hope of building trust between Brits and Indians that would lead to restoration of that right.
 
2012-12-29 06:34:21 PM  
time for a conservative version of facebook?
do it

/well bye...
 
2012-12-29 06:34:32 PM  

Pincy: diaphoresis: I'm so glad I didn't get a Facebook account...

Well aren't you just superior to the rest of us? Do you feel like a big man now? Don't you know that over a billion people use Facebook and that you are worthless if you don't and furthermore, no one will hire you if you don't have a Facebook page? Welcome to obscurity pal.


Odd... employed just fine, with a college degree and no facebook page

I would ask you how it feels to be so stupid, but you lack the education to explain yourself properly.

/Female, btw
 
2012-12-29 06:45:13 PM  

BSABSVR: schrodinger: Check out some of the ads:

I think that the real reason they got shut down was part of a conspiracy to promote cancer. Doctors love cancer, and they don't want people to realize how easy it is for cancer to be cured.

Five GALLONS of colloidal silver?


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

"Buy in bulk and SAVE!!"
 
2012-12-29 06:52:58 PM  

halB: I remember most of British colonization of India, and they routinely armed the locals. If the locals weren't armed, then why in the hell would the Sepoy Mutiny have occurred - it being spawned by a rumor that the cartridges were greased with pig fat to make them waterproof.


The Sepoy Mutiny occurred in 1857.  The Arms Act of 1878 disarmed India.
 
2012-12-29 07:02:13 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.


Of course it has nothing to do with private gun ownership. That's the point.

Holy crap you're dense.
 
2012-12-29 07:23:41 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.

Of course it has nothing to do with private gun ownership. That's the point.

Holy crap you're dense.


It had everything to do with private gun ownership.
 
2012-12-29 07:32:09 PM  
Argh.  Natural news....   I have a friend who loves that site.   She's scared of fluoride, among other things.
 
2012-12-29 08:32:52 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.

Of course it has nothing to do with private gun ownership. That's the point.

Holy crap you're dense.


So you agree with me

Some used that quote to make a claim about private gun ownership

Looks like you are the dense one

Is that all you got? Being wrong and then name calling?
 
2012-12-29 09:18:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.

Of course it has nothing to do with private gun ownership. That's the point.

Holy crap you're dense.

So you agree with me

Some used that quote to make a claim about private gun ownership

Looks like you are the dense one

Is that all you got? Being wrong and then name calling?


No you moron, it was the sane people in this thread saying that the statement in TFA had nothing to do with private gun ownership, while you and BarkingUnicorn are in here trying to make Gandhi into some kind of Indian gun-nut. To quote you, "He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns." So if you're claiming to now agree with me that the statement said nothing about private firearms ownership, you're disavowing your own post in this vary thread. But considering your astounding capacity for cognitive dissonance, that won't surprise me in the least.
 
2012-12-29 09:46:14 PM  
"You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."

--O.J. Simpson
 
2012-12-29 09:59:21 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.


...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.
 
2012-12-29 10:31:31 PM  

s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.


Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.
 
2012-12-29 10:47:50 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


Well, you're a moron.
 
2012-12-29 11:03:14 PM  
"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." - Harry Truman
 
2012-12-29 11:32:49 PM  
From what I've heard, the deactivation of the account had nothing to do with the Gandhi quote. What it did have to do with was someone trolling journalists and activists on both sides of the political spectrum and exposing a loophole in Facebook's TOS. As things stand now, anyone can add you as an admin on any group page without your permission or you even knowing it. Someone created a page, added a bunch of "alternative media" journalists and activists as admins, posted porn on the page, removed themselves as admin, reported the page as violating the TOS, then undoubtedly sat back chuckling as Facebook restricted the accounts of everyone s/he'd made admins on that page.

Source: Tim Pool
 
2012-12-29 11:40:53 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying


It's utterly mind blowing how libs will read something to fit their own ends.  Did you notice the word "greatest" in the sentence?  This implies that there are other ways to learn how to use guns, like by not being in the military, but that the best way to learn how to use a gun is to join the military.  There is nothing in the quoted paragraph that says private citizens shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
 
2012-12-29 11:45:58 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

No.  The IF refers to learning to use a weapon with the greatest possible dispatch", NOT the right to own guns.

Hint, you have to look at the words right after "if" to understand what it refers to.  You don't get to make it up and say it has to do with gun ownership.

Of course it has nothing to do with private gun ownership. That's the point.

Holy crap you're dense.


LOL. wow.  Your whole argument was that the quote proves that Ghandi was against private gun ownership and that the only place he wanted people to have guns was in the military.  10lbsofCheese totally blew your derptastic argument out of the water and now you're backpedaling?
 
2012-12-29 11:56:11 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Pincy: OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?

Well aren't you cool?

[www.benphoster.com image 665x633]

Link

Is "not having a Facebook account" the new "not owning a TV"?


How the f**k can you have 1 billion Facebook users when there aren't even 1 billion people with Internet access? Sure, there are businesses mixed in there, but that's not going to be enough to tip the scales all the way to 1 billion.
 
2012-12-30 12:00:09 AM  

giftedmadness: It's utterly mind blowing how libs will read something to fit their own ends. Did you notice the word "greatest" in the sentence? This implies that there are other ways to learn how to use guns, like by not being in the military, but that the best way to learn how to use a gun is to join the military. There is nothing in the quoted paragraph that says private citizens shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.


You'll have to quote back to me where I said otherwise. The point was the absense of a positive argument, not the presence of a negative one. Apparently you fail at basic logic.

I did enjoy "derptastic" though, I'm going to have to remember that one. Save the "LIBSLIBSLIBS!!" schtick for freeperville, though.
 
2012-12-30 12:08:37 AM  

Wolf_Blitzer: giftedmadness: It's utterly mind blowing how libs will read something to fit their own ends. Did you notice the word "greatest" in the sentence? This implies that there are other ways to learn how to use guns, like by not being in the military, but that the best way to learn how to use a gun is to join the military. There is nothing in the quoted paragraph that says private citizens shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

You'll have to quote back to me where I said otherwise. The point was the absense of a positive argument, not the presence of a negative one. Apparently you fail at basic logic.

I did enjoy "derptastic" though, I'm going to have to remember that one. Save the "LIBSLIBSLIBS!!" schtick for freeperville, though.


Wolf_Blitzer: giftedmadness: It's utterly mind blowing how libs will read something to fit their own ends. Did you notice the word "greatest" in the sentence? This implies that there are other ways to learn how to use guns, like by not being in the military, but that the best way to learn how to use a gun is to join the military. There is nothing in the quoted paragraph that says private citizens shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

You'll have to quote back to me where I said otherwise. The point was the absense of a positive argument, not the presence of a negative one. Apparently you fail at basic logic.

I did enjoy "derptastic" though, I'm going to have to remember that one. Save the "LIBSLIBSLIBS!!" schtick for freeperville, though.


The whole point of quoting the paragraph was to put it in context and to say that he wasn't in support of private ownership of guns.  But in fact he was wanting rights just like the English had, which included the right to gun ownership.  Also, you didn't even mention the fact that the said the best way to learn how to use a gun, was via the military.  This implies he thinks there are other ways to learn how to use a gun.   People quoted this paragraph to make the claim that Ghandi was against private gun ownership, which in fact he wasn't.
 
2012-12-30 12:13:14 AM  

HighOnCraic: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.


What's your definition of a gun nut?  Is someone who supports the 2nd amendment a gun nut?
 
2012-12-30 12:34:54 AM  
Rimmer: Wasn't it Saint Francis of Assisi himself who said "Never give a sucker an even break?"
Kryten: Well if he did, sir, it was strictly off the record.
 
2012-12-30 01:20:13 AM  

Wolf_Blitzer: it was the sane people in this thread saying that the statement in TFA had nothing to do with private gun ownership, while you and BarkingUnicorn are in here trying to make Gandhi into some kind of Indian gun-nut.


I quoted Gandhi from the sources that RexTalionis  provided.  It's perfectly clear that he was aggressively pursuing the right to bear arms for all Indians, not just those in military service.

"INTERMINABLE DELAY IS TAKING PLACE IN THE AMENDMENTS
OF THE ARMS ACT IN ORDER TO ENABLE THE GENERAL BODY OF
PEOPLE
TO TAKE AND CARRY ARMS
IF THEY SO DESIRE "

 "If we want the Arms Act to be repealed, if we want to learn the use of arms, here is a golden opportunity. If the middle class render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial, distrust will disappear, and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn."

There is no paradox or inconsistency in viewing Gandhi as a pacifist who lobbied for the right to bear arms.  Gandhi never chose to use a gun.  But he fought for the right of his people to defend themselves with guns if they wished to do so.  He led by his life's example, while seeking freedom for his people.  That is true nobility.  It doesn't make him an "Indian gun-nut."
 
2012-12-30 01:54:18 AM  

Nobodyn0se: Protip: It is absolutely impossible for Facebook to assault your first amendment rights.


Well, I'll just have to start the Facebook Political Party and prove you wrong.
 
2012-12-30 01:55:22 AM  
Y'all libs can murder unborn children without using guns. We'll keep our guns and teach our children how to use em.
 
2012-12-30 02:18:46 AM  

s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.


wat
 
2012-12-30 02:19:34 AM  

Friction8r: Y'all libs can murder unborn children without using guns. We'll keep our guns and teach our children how to use em.


You're funny.
 
2012-12-30 02:46:08 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

wat


You are wrong to think that I think Ghandi was a gun nut. You imagined what I thought, and were wrong, proving my point.

HighOnCraic: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.


I said prove me right, about imagining what people think. Not prove Lionel right in what he thought about my thoughts.
 
2012-12-30 03:26:30 AM  
Aside from batshiat crazy site like infowars, if this story is even remotely close to true I'd say its closer to a language barrier issue with poor translation on the moderation contract company, and Facebook not being douches. For once.

This is what happens when you outsource to staff who do not have the same native usage of the language that bulk of your visitors you do.
 
2012-12-30 08:53:39 AM  
It's amazing how many of you so easily lie to yourselves and everyone else. Gandhi was a very articulate man, so when he says "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." I'm pretty sure he's not just referring to an army. You're just projecting your demonstrably false interpretation of the 2nd amendment on a Gandhi quote. You lost, get over it.
 
2012-12-30 09:59:42 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: It's amazing how many of you so easily lie to yourselves and everyone else. Gandhi was a very articulate man, so when he says "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." I'm pretty sure he's not just referring to an army. You're just projecting your demonstrably false interpretation of the 2nd amendment on a Gandhi quote. You lost, get over it.


This.
Ghandi believed in peaceful demonstration, but that can only happen in a nation where you have relative peace and a balance of power among the people.
People in favor of disarmament are rarely against the use of force. They just want that force centralized into a group they control. They only want that power so they can use it.

/no claim to the contrary or number of laws can prove otherwise.
/the temptation to abuse overwhelming power is just too great.
 
2012-12-30 10:31:52 AM  

Orange-Pippin: sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.

From your link:
Adams calls himself a holistic nutritionist and is a raw food proponent who opposes food that contains sugar, food that was cooked or made to last, "red" meat, sweeteners, glutamate, homogenized milk, bread and "white" flour, washing powder of some brands, deodorants, shampoos and fluoride toothpaste.

[i.imgur.com image 84x56]


He sounds like he would be a peach of a roommate. He would have to have his own nasty bathroom. OMFG
 
2012-12-30 11:53:43 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


They have these things called books now. Since the quote included the book and page... nah. Ignorance is so much easier.
 
2012-12-30 01:39:59 PM  

giftedmadness: HighOnCraic: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.

What's your definition of a gun nut?  Is someone who supports the 2nd amendment a gun nut?


I'm just saying that his advice to the Brits seemed to indicate that he didn't want them to shoot back at the Nazis. That hardly sounds like a pro-gun position.

"You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. You never count your money when you're sitting at the table, there'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done."

Former Education Secretary Bill Bennett
 
2012-12-30 01:46:14 PM  
Here is  page of extensive Gandhi quotes which should make his position clear.

http://www.mkgandhi.org/nonviolence/phil8.htm

"I want both the Hindus and Mussalmans to cultivate the cool courage to die without killing. But if one has not that courage, I want him to cultivate the art of killing and being killed rather than, in a cowardly manner, flee from danger."

He viewed non-violence as the greatest virtue.  But if a person lacks the courage to  die when faced with violence, he preferred violent defense to cowardice.

"Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right."

Gandhi lived and preached non-violence.  But he not only tolerated those who choose violence, he actively campaigned for their right to choose.

So I conclude that Gandhi was neither pro-gun nor pro-disarmament.   He was pro-freedom.

 (If only our Christians were so secure in their beliefs!)
 
2012-12-30 03:43:43 PM  

Pincy: diaphoresis: I'm so glad I didn't get a Facebook account...

Well aren't you just superior to the rest of us? Do you feel like a big man now? Don't you know that over a billion people use Facebook and that you are worthless if you don't and furthermore, no one will hire you if you don't have a Facebook page? Welcome to obscurity pal.


Really? I don't have a facebook page. After my family asking me for 5 years to open a facebook account. I opened it and closed it two weeks later. Those are two weeks of my life that I will never get back. I don't get the fascination of airing personal business out on the internet. People usually tell me that they like to use Facebook to keep up with their friends. I tell them that is why I own a telephone.

/Facebook is evil.
//kinda being sarcastic
///kinda.......and slashes come in threes.
 
2012-12-30 04:31:50 PM  

giftedmadness: Wolf_Blitzer: tenpoundsofcheese: He said: "If we want to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our duty to enlist ourselves in the army."

That is NOT saying what someone else said, namely: "He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE."

How are you that amazingly stupid that you can't understand an If/Then statement? Thats exactly what he's saying

It's utterly mind blowing how libs will read something to fit their own ends.  Did you notice the word "greatest" in the sentence?  This implies that there are other ways to learn how to use guns, like by not being in the military, but that the best way to learn how to use a gun is to join the military.  There is nothing in the quoted paragraph that says private citizens shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.


Being a liberal is never more frustrating then while there's a gun control push going on. Suddenly all of the people they admire for sage advice are ignored when they point out that the right to arms is an important defense against government authoritarianism. Gandhi is clearly advocating for an armed populace and yet everyone is bending over backwards to read it as him advocating military monopoly on arms.

Does that really make more sense to you? Gandhi trusted government sanctioned violence more than armed citizens able to defend themselves from oppression?

I generally fall on the left side of issues, but the wave of anti-gun propaganda and group think regurgitated talking points coming from the government via the media via everyone I talk to is too glaring to ignore. I've had to argue against the exact same arguments from all my friends and relatives over the holidays. It's amazing how homogeneous they are, and how willing everyone is to demonize gun owners.

It's also amazing how trusting the left suddenly is of the military and police as the sole defenders of the populous. Those guys laughing as they shoot Iraqis and tazing old ladies who resist arrest. Yes, let's make sure they're the only ones with access to military grade weapons.
 
2012-12-30 05:27:42 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Here is  page of extensive Gandhi quotes which should make his position clear.

http://www.mkgandhi.org/nonviolence/phil8.htm

"I want both the Hindus and Mussalmans to cultivate the cool courage to die without killing. But if one has not that courage, I want him to cultivate the art of killing and being killed rather than, in a cowardly manner, flee from danger."

He viewed non-violence as the greatest virtue.  But if a person lacks the courage to  die when faced with violence, he preferred violent defense to cowardice.

"Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right."

Gandhi lived and preached non-violence.  But he not only tolerated those who choose violence, he actively campaigned for their right to choose.

So I conclude that Gandhi was neither pro-gun nor pro-disarmament.   He was pro-freedom.

 (If only our Christians were so secure in their beliefs!)


I think that Gandhi is understood best as an Indian nationalist. Non-violence was for him a tactic to obtain independence from Britain, but not a strategy.

A lot of factors went into the circumstances that led to eventual independence of India (and Pakistan) from Britain. Gandhi's non-violent tactics were one of those factors, but by no means the only one; I don't even think they were the most important one.
 
2012-12-31 10:13:33 AM  

giftedmadness: HighOnCraic: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.

What's your definition of a gun nut?  Is someone who supports the 2nd amendment a gun nut?


My definition of a gun nut is someone who thinks that there's a secret conspiracy linking the recent shootings, and that the author of The Hunger Games is somehow in on it. Such as the author of the blog we're discussing.

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in arena competition, lives in Newtown/Sandy Hook, and in real life someone(s) just killed 20 children in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

(link posted above)
 
2013-01-01 12:46:18 AM  

HighOnCraic: giftedmadness: HighOnCraic: s2s2s2: Lionel Mandrake: s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.

...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.

...says the guy who only piped up to prove me right.

Gandhi's views came under heavy criticism in Britain when it was under attack from Nazi Germany, and later when the Holocaust was revealed. He told the British people in 1940, "I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourselves, man, woman, and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

/Yep, sounds like a total gun nut.

What's your definition of a gun nut?  Is someone who supports the 2nd amendment a gun nut?

My definition of a gun nut is someone who thinks that there's a secret conspiracy linking the recent shootings, and that the author of The Hunger Games is somehow in on it. Such as the author of the blog we're discussing.

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 chil ...


It can't be anything but coincidence.
There was no way to know how many kids would be involved in that attack, or if some off duty cop would have been in a parent teacher meeting that day at sandy hook.
Aurora itself was chosen by its gun free zone policy, otherwise sideshow bob would have shot up some other crowd and we'd be pointing at a tea leaf in that film instead.
Hunger games could have been any number, but twelve districts gives you twenty four participants. District 9 could refer to the nine people killed in a recent bus crash... Or just be one of a thousand coincidences easily drawn after the fact.

If anyone wants to be useful, feel free to predict the next incident rather than playing connect the dots with current events.
 
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