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2012-12-29 01:54:16 PM

Mrtraveler01: Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.



Not true. a couple weeks ago there was a group that got a pic yanked due to complaints despite it not being against their TOS. When they reposted it their account got banned. Most websites will pull things based on complaints with minimal review.
 
2012-12-29 01:54:25 PM

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among and every other -er things.


Fixed for accuracy. He seems to be every kind of crazy simultaneously.
 
2012-12-29 01:55:04 PM

dr_blasto: Or, maybe the nutter is posting things like this on FB:


Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are an elaborate CIA spying scheme
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038491_social_media_CIA_spying.html#ixzz2G T 6r5K3u


Hell, it probably wasn't even that. If Facebook censors people for slandering them, they do a really crappy job of it.

The site's page probably got pulled for something like being improperly tagged as a person's page instead of a group's, or any number of other possibilities.
 
2012-12-29 01:56:52 PM

Mrbogey: Mrtraveler01: Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.


Not true. a couple weeks ago there was a group that got a pic yanked due to complaints despite it not being against their TOS. When they reposted it their account got banned. Most websites will pull things based on complaints with minimal review.


What was it a pic of?

I have a feeling there is much more to the story than this.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:39 PM
I've got a FB friend who has posts dozens of "pro-gun" quotes and poorly shooped images macros every single day*, and FB hasn't removed his account yet, so I'm slightly suspicious that Natural News hasn't told me the whole story.

* He's like a derp seismograph. Whatever shows up in my news feed from him will undoubtedly be pouring out of the media puke funnel in a few days.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:39 PM
I assume they got suspended because they finally crossed a threshold of enough people flagging their posts as spam, and the timing was coincidental (but convenient for this whining.)

Natural News is a spammy SEO sinkhole, so I have no doubt they use their Facebook page in a similarly awful way and people get tired of seeing that shiat.

As a page admins you have access to analytics that will tell you when you get negative feedback for a post. If we could see those records right now, I imagine they would tell us that it's not Facebook who has the problem, but the page's own subscribers.

And it takes waaaaay more than a couple flags to get yanked like this. Any page with a certain number of fans will get a certain number of flags. They must have really blown it.
 
2012-12-29 01:58:47 PM
OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?
 
2012-12-29 02:00:36 PM
How is this not obvious to all?

They are selling bullshiat natural supplements.
The absolute stupidest people on Earth are the conspiracy nut jobs.

BS natural supplements + conspiracy nut job crap on the same site = $$$.

Angling for a ban from facebook and the associated posting about it is what passes for the best marketing to sites like this.
 
2012-12-29 02:01:44 PM

Orange-Pippin: sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.

From your link:
Adams calls himself a holistic nutritionist and is a raw food proponent who opposes food that contains sugar, food that was cooked or made to last, "red" meat, sweeteners, glutamate, homogenized milk, bread and "white" flour, washing powder of some brands, deodorants, shampoos and fluoride toothpaste.

[i.imgur.com image 84x56]


media.tumblr.com

NO HOMO milk
 
2012-12-29 02:04:22 PM

Pincy: OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?


Well aren't you cool?

www.benphoster.com

Link

Is "not having a Facebook account" the new "not owning a TV"?
 
2012-12-29 02:05:02 PM
Even if everything this nutbag said was true (it's not, but just suppose), then you are using Facebook. TOS of Facebook says they can suspend your account for anything. They make the rules.
 
2012-12-29 02:05:43 PM
So what? Facebook has no obligation to permit you to do anything... it is their site to ruin/make good as they please.
 
2012-12-29 02:09:44 PM
Gandhi's goal was, at one point, to make Indians equal subjects of the English Crown, or likely, a member of the British Commonwealth. He served in the Second Boer War, in the ambulance corps. He supported Indians fighting on the British side in World War I, and the first half of WW2. It's the rise of that racist arch-imperialist Churchill, when it became clear that Britain is never going to consider brown people equal English citizens, that Gandhi called for the British to "Quit India," as late as 1942.

Every time the conservatives in this country talk about Churchill like he was the second coming of Jesus, I snort. He is to Indians what Lord North was to Americans. A tyrannical Prime Minister who precipitated the severance of the colony from the crown (okay, I am a little exaggerating here).
 
2012-12-29 02:11:19 PM

Mrtraveler01: What was it a pic of?


It was a pic about Benghazi. The posters were a PAC formed by Former SpecOps. It blasted Obama for it.

The story is just that simple. The NRA had a similar issue with AOL back in the day. People would sign up for the newsletter then report it as spam. So it'd keep getting blacklisted by AOL.
 
2012-12-29 02:11:33 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Pincy: OK, I'll be that guy.

People still use Facebook?

Well aren't you cool?

[www.benphoster.com image 665x633]

Link

Is "not having a Facebook account" the new "not owning a TV"?


No.  Not owning a TV is too mainstream.  The new cool is ironically watching a lot of TV.

Or, it was until I pointed it out.
 
2012-12-29 02:11:53 PM

whitman00: How is this not obvious to all?

They are selling bullshiat natural supplements.
The absolute stupidest people on Earth are the conspiracy nut jobs.

BS natural supplements + conspiracy nut job crap on the same site = $$$.

Angling for a ban from facebook and the associated posting about it is what passes for the best marketing to sites like this.


Yep.  This allows them to start doing the "nature's cures/gun facts that THEY don't want you to know about" thing that makes them seem more legit to schizophrenics.
 
2012-12-29 02:15:19 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?


I'm guessing it has something to do with a certain WND article series about it that crossed enough lines that I'm not willing to post a link. They had a warning at the beginning that the photos they were publishing were some of the mildest they had seen on their investigation.
 
2012-12-29 02:18:38 PM

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them. As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.



That's odd... because I remember most of British colonization of India, and they routinely armed the locals. If the locals weren't armed, then why in the hell would the Sepoy Mutiny have occurred - it being spawned by a rumor that the cartridges were greased with pig fat to make them waterproof.
 
2012-12-29 02:20:09 PM
And then why would he say "If we want to learn the use of arms... it is our duty to enlist in the army."

Because that blatantly, clearly, without a doubt shows that the indians int he military were armed. WHY DO YOU LIE SO FREAKING HARD?! THE QUOTE YOU GIVE SHOWS YOU'RE FULL OF SHIAT.
 
2012-12-29 02:20:50 PM

dr_blasto: Or, maybe the nutter is posting things like this on FB:


Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites are an elaborate CIA spying scheme
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038491_social_media_CIA_spying.html#ixzz2G T 6r5K3u


welcome to my favourites list dr blasto
 
2012-12-29 02:21:02 PM

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.


I'm shocked. Really.

/ok, not really.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:06 PM
well, A. I'm calling bullhit cause my right-wing friends post it all the time and 2. you can't get all supportive of chick-fil-a taking up a anti-gay stance then get mad a private company taking up a anti-gun tance.

assuming its true, which, considering its a right wing source, means theres a 99.99% chance of it being wrong, taken out of context or a flat out lie.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:29 PM

sigdiamond2000: About the author

This dude is an anti-vaxxer, bither, truther, and chemtrail nut, among other things.


He also references all his claims with links to other pages on his site that he wrote himself, and just so happens to sell the things you *really* need to be healthy.
 
2012-12-29 02:39:02 PM

kmramki: It's the rise of that racist arch-imperialist Churchill


lolwut
 
2012-12-29 02:42:28 PM

dr_blasto: Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.


I think it's mainly just one completely unhinged mofo.

www.naturalnews.com
 
2012-12-29 02:56:07 PM
The funny part for me.

I saw this on infowars yesterday and many of the comments were complaining about how their posts were being removed.
 
2012-12-29 02:59:06 PM

Mrtraveler01: Mrbogey: It's not Facebook that is the problem. Its the uptight twits that reported it so it's get pulled.

Facebook only pulls it if it violates the TOS regardless of what the complaint is.

So my guess is that there is more to this story and this is just a lame excuse the paranoid nuts at this website came up with.


They had a list of accounts that were banned yesterday. I checked a bunch and they had recent activity on them
 
2012-12-29 03:00:08 PM
Here is the article from Infowars

Link
 
2012-12-29 03:00:18 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.


I want to start a petition to shut down the petition site.
 
2012-12-29 03:02:10 PM

wildcardjack: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

I want to start a petition to shut down the petition site.


I would sign that petition
 
2012-12-29 03:12:04 PM
We have entered the era of the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's 1984 novel. And while Facebook assaults the First Amendment in America,

Uh, yeah. So, when did Facebook become an arm of the government? Because that's who the first amendment applies to. A private organization- i.e. Facebook- can censor whatever speech it wants to from its servers. You then ALSO have the right to set up your OWN social network that allows such speech. But that takes work, so instead, just go whine on the internets about how Facebook is taking away your rights and how it's all so orwellian, and what if Facebook starts banning quotes from Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, etc. fark off and go start your own social network- no one is stopping you. That's the great thing about freedom- Facebook is FREE to allow and disallow whatever it wants to on its site. You, in turn, can do the same. Unless you want the government to step in and tell Facebook it MUST allow anything on its site. Or to tell it what it can and can't have displayed. now THAT would TRULY be "orwellian."
 
2012-12-29 03:25:41 PM
Sounds like a site for deep thinkers:

(NaturalNews) The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.

As it should---since 27 people were just killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and in the Dark Knight film, "Sandy Hook" is indicated as a target for attack.

Unless, of course, one wants to believe this is merely a boggling coincidence, one that accidentally ties the Batman theater massacre to the Connecticut school massacre.

In that case, add to the list of coincidences the fact that Suzanne Collins, the author of The Hunger Games, in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in arena competition, lives in Newtown/Sandy Hook, and in real life someone(s) just killed 20 children in the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Learn more: Link

I'm afraid to read the comments at the bottom of the page; maybe later after I've had a couple of beers. . .
 
2012-12-29 03:27:37 PM

A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?


Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!
 
2012-12-29 03:27:54 PM
If Gandhi said that you should jump off a bridge it wouldn't be any more poignant than if Joe the Plumber said it.  Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb.
 
2012-12-29 03:28:03 PM

A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?


Other than the Tea Partiers, I don't know if you'd get many signatures on a petition to remove Obama's wang.
 
2012-12-29 03:32:38 PM
"Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein
 
2012-12-29 03:35:34 PM

HighOnCraic: "Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein


+1
 
2012-12-29 03:35:52 PM
Facebook is a corporation you have no right to free or unmoderated speech there. Don't like it? Make your own social networking site.
 
2012-12-29 03:37:31 PM

HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!


Once again,I am too slow.
 
2012-12-29 03:37:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ
 
2012-12-29 03:53:14 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.


You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.
 
2012-12-29 03:54:14 PM

dr_blasto: Thar be some unhinged mofos at that site.


Well, it's Facebook. That's all the explanation necessary.

/only person within 100 miles without an account
 
2012-12-29 03:58:19 PM

s2s2s2: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

You'll get over it. Just remember, People don't believe what you imagine they do.


...says the guy who apparently thinks Gandhi was a gun-lover.
 
2012-12-29 04:04:34 PM

FloydA: HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!

Once again,I am too slow.


And besides, I really doubt that Obama is using one of these:
www.atariarchives.org
 
2012-12-29 04:17:16 PM

HighOnCraic: FloydA: HighOnCraic: A Terrible Human: Wolf_Blitzer: Britney Spear's Speculum: There is a whitehouse petition to crack down on child porn on facebook. Someone want to expiain this to me?

People can start a petition about literally anything on the internet.

If I started a petition about Obama's wang how quickly do you think it'd get removed?

Why do you want to remove the president's wang?!

Once again,I am too slow.

And besides, I really doubt that Obama is using one of these:
[www.atariarchives.org image 397x326]


Ahahahahah you guys are amazing. I was more meaning that I wanted to start a petition about seeing his wang but you've guys turned it into something fantastic.
 
2012-12-29 04:20:42 PM

zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ


"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy
 
2012-12-29 04:23:11 PM

Rapmaster2000: HighOnCraic: "Famous quotes are the fallacy of appealing to authority about 95% of the time.  All of your famous quotations on facebook are dumb."

--Albert Einstein

+1


"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

--Helen Keller
 
2012-12-29 04:26:19 PM

HighOnCraic: zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy


Luke..."  -Colossians 4:14

"...I am..."  -Exodus 3:14

"...your father."  -Genesis 31:6
 
2012-12-29 04:27:44 PM

RexTalionis: By the way: Here is the link to the relevant part of the autobiography. As you can clearly see, that quote is in the context that he was trying to recruit Indians for armed combatants and to serve in the Army on Britain's behalf for WWI (i.e. to provide defense, not for self defense, but for defense of India, at this point). The British Commissioners and Viceroy, however, were refusing to allow Indians to be armed and enlist in the military for their own defense, however, opting to keep India as a subject state rather than a partner of the Commonwealth.

He wasn't advocating for private ownership of arms. He was advocating allowing Indians to use arms WHILE SERVING IN MILITARY SERVICE.

Here's another relevant quote from Gandhi's 1918 leaflet "Appeal for Enlistment" (See Page 83 of linked PDF).

You are all lovers of swaraj; some of you are members of the
Home Rule League. One meaning of Home Rule is that we should
become partners in the Empire. Today we are a subject people. We do
not enjoy all the rights of Englishmen. We are not today partners in
the Empire as are Canada, South Africa and Australia. We are a
dependency. We want the rights of Englishmen, and we aspire to be as
much partners in the Empire as the Dominions overseas. We look
forward to a time when we may aspire to the Viceregal office. To
bring about such a state of things we should have the ability to defend
ourselves, that is, the ability to bear arms and to use them.
As long as
we have to look to Englishmen for our defence, as long as we are not
free from the fear of the military, so long we cannot be regarded as
equal partners with Englishmen. It behoves us, therefore, to learn the
use of arms and to acquire the ability to defend ourselves. If we want
to learn the use of arms with the greatest possible despatch, it is our
duty to enlist ourselves in the army.


Wrongo
He wanted the rights of Englishmen which includes the right to private ownership of guns.
He said that "if we want to learn"...then they should enlist in the army...he didn't say that is the only way to have rights to use guns.
Did you not understand that last sentence?
 
2012-12-29 04:36:51 PM

FloydA: HighOnCraic: zamboni: cameroncrazy1984: I have a really hard time believing that the grandfather of nonviolent protest was pro-gun.

There's kind of a difference between being "pro-gun" and being "anti rendered defenseless."

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus H. Christ

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

--Paul McCarthy

Luke..."  -Colossians 4:14

"...I am..."  -Exodus 3:14

"...your father."  -Genesis 31:6


"I certainly didn't expect all this hoopla! And you can quote me on that."

--Grace Slick
 
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