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(CNN)   Steer starts massive fire on Vermont farm. Time to ban cows. (with WOW flaming photo)   (ireport.cnn.com) divider line 139
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2012-12-29 08:40:43 AM
Chicago thinks Vermont has gone mainstream. They were burning down due to cows way before it was popular.
 
2012-12-29 09:42:06 AM
Mrs. O'Leary inconsolable.
 
2012-12-29 10:10:19 AM
static.ddmcdn.com
What a skid steer may look like.

/Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.
 
2012-12-29 10:32:17 AM
I love this site.
 
2012-12-29 10:38:54 AM
Came to make sure Mrs. O'Leary got her due mention

/Fark does not disappoint
 
2012-12-29 10:46:30 AM

kimwim: /Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.


Willful misunderstanding for the purposes of comedic value. It is apparently not your friend.
 
2012-12-29 11:07:16 AM

kimwim: [static.ddmcdn.com image 400x269]
What a skid steer may look like.

/Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.


Joke comprehension is apparently not your strong point.
 
2012-12-29 02:06:26 PM
dailypicksandflicks.com

/did rtfa
//i'm not gonna give up a meme drop for that
 
2012-12-29 02:06:30 PM
fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.
 
2012-12-29 02:07:13 PM

Speaker2Animals: kimwim: [static.ddmcdn.com image 400x269]
What a skid steer may look like.

/Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.

Joke comprehension is apparently not your strong point.


I don't know, subby could learn a thing or two about how to write a cow/fire joke from MmmmBacon. Namely, don't force the joke when an easy one is sitting right there for the taking.
 
2012-12-29 02:07:27 PM
Meh. This is old news.

/In Chicago
 
2012-12-29 02:08:10 PM
Established that a skid steer is not an animal.

Still to be established: that a steer is not a cow.
 
2012-12-29 02:08:39 PM
Ah, attaching your house and barn together. The retarded British building method analogous to putting all your eggs in one basket.
 
2012-12-29 02:08:59 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


Soooooo lets ban em!
 
2012-12-29 02:09:18 PM
so, that first pic would be fun to photoshop with 'disaster girl,' but how would i add an orange tint to her face to make it blend in?

/came for chicago fire reference, leaving more than satisfied
 
2012-12-29 02:09:55 PM
Why any cow would need a 30 teat udder cannot be justified.
 
2012-12-29 02:10:07 PM
How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only
 
2012-12-29 02:11:16 PM
Damn! Some of those pics were incredibly awesome.

Sad, but awesome.

/now hungry for revenge steak
 
2012-12-29 02:11:40 PM
There'll be a HOT time on the old town tonight.
 
2012-12-29 02:12:48 PM

MathProf: Established that a skid steer is not an animal.

Still to be established: that a steer is not a cow.


Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?
 
2012-12-29 02:13:00 PM
Will someone please ring the dinner bell...

farm4.staticflickr.com

/Did this once in my Back Yard when I was stationed in the Philippines.
//Best damn BBQ I ever had.
///House was still standing
 
2012-12-29 02:13:35 PM
Man, I'd like to stand downwind from that fire.
 
2012-12-29 02:14:17 PM
boscutti.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-29 02:15:11 PM
As a former fire fighter, that's what we called "saving the foundation."
 
2012-12-29 02:15:33 PM

MathProf: Established that a skid steer is not an animal.

Still to be established: that a steer is not a cow.


... or was it a cow trying to drive a steer?
 
2012-12-29 02:15:35 PM

divgradcurl: so, that first pic would be fun to photoshop with 'disaster girl,' but how would i add an orange tint to her face to make it blend in?



You could play around with the "lighting effects" tool.
 
2012-12-29 02:16:23 PM
www.global-air.com

Chicago also happened to endure a terrible fire that same day, but the Peshtigo, Wisconsin tragedy, taking many more lives, gradually slipped into obscurity. (new window)
 
2012-12-29 02:16:56 PM

flucto: kimwim: /Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.

Willful misunderstanding for the purposes of comedic value. It is apparently not your friend.


Jeesum Crow.
He has to eat some now.
 
2012-12-29 02:17:38 PM
Impressive fire, but were there Zombies???

pykorry.com
 
2012-12-29 02:17:51 PM

Just another Heartland Weirdass: A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.

Soooooo lets ban em!


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-29 02:18:01 PM
Self Cooking Steaks..Medium Rare Please....
 
2012-12-29 02:18:28 PM

Earguy: Mrs. O'Leary inconsolable.


Over in 2.
 
2012-12-29 02:19:05 PM
Rape the cow and eat it.
 
2012-12-29 02:19:22 PM
The farm was originally purchased by Towne's grandfather in the 1920's and was operated as a dairy farm. The home and attached barn were completely destroyed, being reduced to charred rubble


/Wouldn't rubble be classified as rocks, stone, or crumbled masonry?. I wasn't aware that burned up wood could be denoted as "rubble". Wouldn't it be something else?

//Anyone?
 
2012-12-29 02:20:37 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


Not nearly as overplayed as the "smokin' girl" who actually looks like she fell through a tree bearing flaming meat tenderizing hammers headlines.

Most of those seem to come from the Daily Fail, which must be a "Cracked"-type "partner".
 
2012-12-29 02:20:57 PM
... so, anyone know what movie intro this one was for?
 
2012-12-29 02:22:24 PM

enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only


To compensate for a skinny, short penis that never gets more than semi-hard and ejaculates after two strokes because of that one time in Scout camp?
 
2012-12-29 02:24:12 PM

maniacbastard: Rape the cow and eat it.


Funny thing for a Hindu to say...wait, it's Saturday night where you are, right?
 
2012-12-29 02:26:41 PM

enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only


Really? You sat there, thought for a bit, cracked your knuckles, wiggled your fingers and put them to the keyboard and that's what came out?
 
2012-12-29 02:27:15 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


Too soon?

Ban the banners!
 
2012-12-29 02:28:09 PM

enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only


How did this become another gun thread?
 
2012-12-29 02:28:39 PM
A couple of former CO.s met on a Florida golf course.

Guy from New York asks how did you get out of business?

He says flood. Wiped out the whole business. What happened to you?

New Yorker says fire. Burn't the place to the ground.How do you stage a flood?
 
2012-12-29 02:31:40 PM

Valiente: Funny thing for a Hindu to say...wait, it's Saturday night where you are, right?


I am inside you like a tapeworm.

I eat and I shiat in your body.

I watch men penetrate you from inside your colon.

You are fond of this.
 
2012-12-29 02:32:31 PM
FTFA: Fire investigators confirmed the blaze was started when a skid steer sparked the flames which quickly spread through the dry wood structure

The steer only sparked. The wood caught fire.
Time to ban wood.
 
2012-12-29 02:36:51 PM
That did not take long to burn. I watched a fire department burn a house for practice, by the Newington Mall. From the time the fire started, to it just being flaming wood in the basement hole, was about 17 minutes. It's the foundation saving that takes hours and hours.

/like that, save the foundation
 
2012-12-29 02:37:02 PM

John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?


images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-12-29 02:39:50 PM
Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines
 
2012-12-29 02:43:38 PM

StoPPeRmobile: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

[images.cheezburger.com image 442x332]


It's a fair question.
 
2012-12-29 02:45:21 PM

John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?


Apparently by people who don't like guns.

/it's kind of weird how obsessive they are about them.
//reminds me of anti-gay people...
 
2012-12-29 02:45:36 PM

rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines


/ok..ill give you those, but what do you call that guy who was farking the dead dog in front of the day care center? And what if he set it on fire first? Ever think of that? NOOOO ill bet you haven't.
 
2012-12-29 02:47:40 PM

rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines


Not bad. A gomer is a bull that has undergone a vasectomy. They are used in operations that use artificial insemination to help farmers tell when a cow is in heat.
 
2012-12-29 02:53:49 PM

kimwim: What a skid steer may look like.

/Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.


This. We need to ban bobcats!
 
2012-12-29 02:53:49 PM

rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines


You forgot fomer - a girl who has sex with male bovines, usually on the set of a Dutch pr0n movie.
 
2012-12-29 02:55:03 PM

mikalmd: Self Cooking Steaks..Medium Rare Please....


Yeah, OK, you can take your own off the grill when it's been done to your liking.

/More like charred beyond recognition
 
2012-12-29 02:55:24 PM

Homer Elmer: [boscutti.files.wordpress.com image 700x400]


The thing that's always weird to think about when you look at that photo is, that's the original King Kong jungle gate set that's actually burning down.
 
2012-12-29 02:55:42 PM
One of the photos of the fire fighter on his knees with the hose between is begging for a caption, will someone deliver?
 
2012-12-29 02:59:13 PM
i.cdn.turner.com

fire makes me cum.
 
2012-12-29 03:09:34 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


It's time to ban Terrible Humans from posting on Fark.
 
d52
2012-12-29 03:09:52 PM
Came for this:
i46.tinypic.com
Leaving disappointed.
 
2012-12-29 03:13:26 PM

Snargi: rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines

You forgot fomer - a girl who has sex with male bovines, usually on the set of a Dutch pr0n movie.


Baby calf = a why.
 
2012-12-29 03:14:52 PM
Was it an assault steer?
 
2012-12-29 03:22:48 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

I was imagining this really.
 
2012-12-29 03:25:08 PM
There's a rumor the Chicken Gang was involved.
 
2012-12-29 03:26:57 PM

Another Government Employee: There's a rumor the Chicken Gang was involved.


Cows With Guns
 
2012-12-29 03:29:52 PM

John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?


Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.
 
2012-12-29 03:35:43 PM
i1034.photobucket.com
Light em up! Grill em out!
 
2012-12-29 03:52:37 PM
i877.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-29 03:52:45 PM
mooooooron!
 
2012-12-29 04:06:24 PM
 
2012-12-29 04:19:03 PM

FriarReb98: Homer Elmer: [boscutti.files.wordpress.com image 700x400]

The thing that's always weird to think about when you look at that photo is, that's the original King Kong jungle gate set that's actually burning down.


Really? Wow, I learn something new everyday. Cool!
 
2012-12-29 04:21:41 PM
At least someone had time to call a professional photographer while the place burned.
 
2012-12-29 04:50:14 PM

Onkel Buck: [i1034.photobucket.com image 253x319]
Light em up! Grill em out!


My older sister had a crush on, nope, not Clint. Eric Fleming, who portrayed trail boss Gil Favor.
 
2012-12-29 05:06:34 PM

slyandtheblooddiamond: [dailypicksandflicks.com image 600x572]

/did rtfa
//i'm not gonna give up a meme drop for that


Came for this pic - leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-29 05:10:40 PM

A Shambling Mound: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

Really? You sat there, thought for a bit, cracked your knuckles, wiggled your fingers and put them to the keyboard and that's what came out?


It had a point, cant seem to find one in your response.

If there's any confusion as to how this is related to guns, the whole 'let's ban this now' sprouted up after Newtown, it's a defensive tactic gun advocates are using to make sure the discussion over any kind of new gun laws is squelched. See: calling people who want smarter gun control 'pussies'
 
2012-12-29 05:17:22 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


Gasoline on a fire when you biatch about it. I predict full meme status soon.
i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-29 05:17:24 PM

Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.


Guns are made to kill things, you can't really butter it up
 
2012-12-29 05:20:48 PM
Has anyone mentioned Mrs. O'Leary yet?

www.mamalisa.com
 
2012-12-29 05:20:53 PM

A Terrible Human: fark these farking "time to ban this" headlines,no offense to you subby it's just overplayed at this point.


Time to ban things that offend people!
 
2012-12-29 05:21:10 PM
Obviously we can't just outright ban cows. They're too ingrained in our culture. What we need to do, however, is restrict access to millitary-style "assault" cows with high-capacity udders and folding antlers.
 
2012-12-29 05:35:23 PM

Homer Elmer: [boscutti.files.wordpress.com image 700x400]


*golf clap*
 
2012-12-29 05:39:23 PM

maniacbastard: Valiente: Funny thing for a Hindu to say...wait, it's Saturday night where you are, right?

I am inside you like a tapeworm.

I eat and I shiat in your body.

I watch men penetrate you from inside your colon.

You are fond of this.


Please stop. We don't need another Indubitably.
 
2012-12-29 05:48:30 PM

Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts (rest of post rendered invalid by previous two words).


There ya go, sweetie.
 
2012-12-29 06:10:49 PM
Rip the horns off, wipe its ass, walk it by a match and I'm ready to eat.
 
2012-12-29 06:43:25 PM

rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines


pyle - a guy who has sex with male bovines
 
2012-12-29 07:01:21 PM
www.carpelibra.org
 
2012-12-29 07:17:12 PM
Cows don't kill people. Fire kills people.

Ban all firestarting weapons!
 
2012-12-29 07:59:59 PM

Morgellons: Obviously we can't just outright ban cows. They're too ingrained in our culture. What we need to do, however, is restrict access to millitary-style "assault" cows with high-capacity udders and folding antlers.


Why can't we talk about Cow Control? We're just talking reasonable restrictions. Nobody needs to own 100 cows.
 
2012-12-29 08:15:43 PM

enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.

Guns are made to kill things, you can't really butter it up


Fire burns things dead, Dumbass.
 
2012-12-29 08:33:22 PM

John Buck 41: Onkel Buck: [i1034.photobucket.com image 253x319]
Light em up! Grill em out!

My older sister had a crush on, nope, not Clint. Eric Fleming, who portrayed trail boss Gil Favor.


Because he's a bad ass!
 
2012-12-29 08:41:51 PM

CowboyUpCowgirlDown: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.

Guns are made to kill things, you can't really butter it up

Fire burns things dead, Dumbass.


Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have? In that guys example, 1 was killing things, 1 was practicing to kill things better, 1 was making noise to start a race, and the last was killing people in movies. I'm sure your dumbass will justify it's existence as more than a weapon of death
 
2012-12-29 08:53:02 PM

rnatalie: Do you really expect these people to know the differences between a steer, bull, heifer, cow, gomer, and ox?

Bull - male bovine with his parts
Steer - male bovine who got castrated while a calf
Ox - male bovine who got castrated while an adult
Cow - female bovine that has given birth (and hence milkable)
heifer - female bovine that has not had a calf
gomer - a guy who has sex with female bovines


Not this thread again. Sheesh!
 
2012-12-29 09:09:15 PM

enochianwolf: CowboyUpCowgirlDown: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.

Guns are made to kill things, you can't really butter it up

Fire burns things dead, Dumbass.

Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have? In that guys example, 1 was killing things, 1 was practicing to kill things better, 1 was making noise to start a race, and the last was killing people in movies. I'm sure your dumbass will justify it's existence as more than a weapon of death


How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.
 
2012-12-29 09:24:19 PM

Onkel Buck: John Buck 41: Onkel Buck: [i1034.photobucket.com image 253x319]
Light em up! Grill em out!

My older sister had a crush on, nope, not Clint. Eric Fleming, who portrayed trail boss Gil Favor.

Because he's a bad ass!


That he was. Wish he was a better swimmer, though.
 
2012-12-29 09:29:04 PM

enochianwolf: CowboyUpCowgirlDown: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: John Buck 41: enochianwolf: How is that headline even remotely funny? Also, it's funny how gun advocates keep with the "let's ban this" shtick, they know deep down a gun is made for 1 reason only

How did this become another gun thread?

Some guy who shiats in his pants at his own shadow brought up the point that guns were made for only one reason. That brings out the gun nuts who respond with lies about how some guns are made for target shooting only, some for starting track events, some for movie props, and some for killing people which adds up to at least 4 things right there.

Guns are made to kill things, you can't really butter it up

Fire burns things dead, Dumbass.

Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have? In that guys example, 1 was killing things, 1 was practicing to kill things better, 1 was making noise to start a race, and the last was killing people in movies. I'm sure your dumbass will justify it's existence as more than a weapon of death


Seriously. In a thread about a landmark in Vermont being lost to fire, why the fark are you making this about guns, when there are half a dozen threads germane to that subject that you could jump into?

Is this not the definition of threadjacking? Jesus Christ.
 
2012-12-29 09:33:42 PM

Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.


Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.
 
2012-12-29 09:36:11 PM

John Buck 41: Seriously. In a thread about a landmark in Vermont being lost to fire, why the fark are you making this about guns, when there are half a dozen threads germane to that subject that you could jump into?

Is this not the definition of threadjacking? Jesus Christ.


Take it up with subby
 
2012-12-29 09:42:43 PM
You are able to cook anything you want with electric ranges/ovens, microwaves, rice steamers, and infrared heat (electric BBQs), and smokers.

Fire is archaic, dangerous, and causes suffering around the globe. Fire should be banned: and it should be done expeditiously given that it isn't enumerated in the Constitution.
 
2012-12-29 09:49:02 PM

enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.


So?
 
2012-12-29 09:59:45 PM

CowboyUpCowgirlDown: You are able to cook anything you want with electric ranges/ovens, microwaves, rice steamers, and infrared heat (electric BBQs), and smokers.

Fire is archaic, dangerous, and causes suffering around the globe. Fire should be banned: and it should be done expeditiously given that it isn't enumerated in the Constitution.


Lots of things are dangerous. Things that are created for the sole purpose of killing even more so. Get it yet, dumbass?
 
2012-12-29 10:03:20 PM

MadAzza: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

So?


So people should stop mocking calls for smart gun control by falsely advocating that anything remotely dangerous be banned. It's a weak attempt at distraction. Submitter is guilty of it
 
2012-12-29 10:04:54 PM

enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.


And sometimes the killing of a violent person is needed to prevent the killing an innocent person. The obsessive drive to remove all means of protecting oneself by some people really escapes me and most others. It is almost like they want people to be hurt or killed. Ban guns, ban tasers, ban pepper sprays, ban protective vests, etc. The love affair with criminals needs to be classified as a mental disorder or something.
 
2012-12-29 10:10:25 PM

Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

And sometimes the killing of a violent person is needed to prevent the killing an innocent person. The obsessive drive to remove all means of protecting oneself by some people really escapes me and most others. It is almost like they want people to be hurt or killed. Ban guns, ban tasers, ban pepper sprays, ban protective vests, etc. The love affair with criminals needs to be classified as a mental disorder or something.


See your kneejerk reaction claiming I'm for removing all means of protecting yourself? That's part of the problem with gun advocates, their persecution complex rivals republicans and christians, though Id say in many cases they overlap. I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.
 
2012-12-29 10:10:29 PM

enochianwolf: MadAzza: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

So?

So people should stop mocking calls for smart gun control by falsely advocating that anything remotely dangerous be banned. It's a weak attempt at distraction. Submitter is guilty of it


If your true motivation is safety, then you would realize that advocating for smart controls on anything that is dangerous that also doesn't have any use except to kill people such as pointy kitchen knives is not mocking. It is somebody embracing your side of the argument. If your motivation is something other than safety, then you won't realize that.
 
2012-12-29 10:11:04 PM

enochianwolf: MadAzza: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

So?

So people should stop mocking calls for smart gun control by falsely advocating that anything remotely dangerous be banned. It's a weak attempt at distraction. Submitter is guilty of it


How do you define "smart gun control"?
 
2012-12-29 10:13:18 PM

enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.


How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?
 
2012-12-29 10:19:41 PM

enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

And sometimes the killing of a violent person is needed to prevent the killing an innocent person. The obsessive drive to remove all means of protecting oneself by some people really escapes me and most others. It is almost like they want people to be hurt or killed. Ban guns, ban tasers, ban pepper sprays, ban protective vests, etc. The love affair with criminals needs to be classified as a mental disorder or something.

See your kneejerk reaction claiming I'm for removing all means of protecting yourself? That's part of the problem with gun advocates, their persecution complex rivals republicans and christians, though Id say in many cases they overlap. I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.


The claim isn't about you. It is about the subject as a whole.

I wouldn't feel persecuted if semi-automatic weapons were banned. I'd question why anybody who claims that they were only for smart gun control would do so as it would expose him as a liar. A semi-automatic fires one round with one pull of the trigger which is the same as a double action revolver. So why ban one and not the other? Could it be due to something other than "smart gun control?"
 
2012-12-29 10:28:30 PM

enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?


Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.
 
2012-12-29 10:36:25 PM

Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

And sometimes the killing of a violent person is needed to prevent the killing an innocent person. The obsessive drive to remove all means of protecting oneself by some people really escapes me and most others. It is almost like they want people to be hurt or killed. Ban guns, ban tasers, ban pepper sprays, ban protective vests, etc. The love affair with criminals needs to be classified as a mental disorder or something.

See your kneejerk reaction claiming I'm for removing all means of protecting yourself? That's part of the problem with gun advocates, their persecution complex rivals republicans and christians, though Id say in many cases they overlap. I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

The claim isn't about you. It is about the subject as a whole.

I wouldn't feel persecuted if semi-automatic weapons were banned. I'd question why anybody who claims that they were only for smart gun control would do so as it would expose him as a liar. A semi-automatic fires one round with one pull of the trigger which is the same as a double action revolver. So why ban one and not the other? Could it be due to something other than "smart gun control?"


You're right, let's just drop the charade, gun bans are silly. It doesn't really matter what the rate of fire is, a gun is a gun, let's not speak any further about ways to reduce their availability, instead let's do the exact opposite.
 
2012-12-29 10:40:43 PM

trappedspirit: enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?

Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.


If only the Founding Fathers could see the lethality of a Bushmaster
 
2012-12-29 10:42:57 PM

enochianwolf: trappedspirit: enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?

Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.

If only the Founding Fathers could see the lethality of a Bushmaster


I'm willing to bet that General Washington would have ordered crates and crates of them.
 
2012-12-29 10:53:05 PM

Earguy: Mrs. O'Leary inconsolable.


SERIOUSLY. HOW DID SUBBY MISS THIS JOKE?

/farking wrote itself...
 
2012-12-29 11:11:50 PM

Wulfman: enochianwolf: trappedspirit: enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?

Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.

If only the Founding Fathers could see the lethality of a Bushmaster

I'm willing to bet that General Washington would have ordered crates and crates of them.


Exactly!

Or borrowed them from the French. Either way.
 
2012-12-29 11:14:02 PM
I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

 
2012-12-29 11:28:20 PM

MadAzza: I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?


well to some extent you'll want to focus on poverty, education and mental health, then maybe you wouldnt have so many thugs to begin with. there is a black market for guns, with hundreds of millions of guns in this country there will always be a black market. There are assault rifles on the street illegally, and I'm sure law enforcement is always thrilled about that. You could impose a tax on firearm sales that pools into a comprehensive buyback program to incentivize the willful forfeiture of them... but alas, this is all coming too late. Statistically each household in America houses a firearm, including homes with mentally unstable individuals. It's a shame that the solution proposed by many is to increase the amount of guns instead of reversing it, making sure everyone, including teachers, carry at all times for maximum safety. What a ruggedly individualistic utopia, it's just like the wild west!
 
2012-12-29 11:35:44 PM

enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: Benjimin_Dover: How many of these "practical uses" of fire are really necessary and haven't been replaced by safer things? We don't live in the late 1700's anymore which is the same argument that is used against guns. How many kids do you think is an acceptable amount that are killed by fires to support your selfish need to have fire? Kitchen knives with sharp pointy ends also don't have much practical purposes either. How many times does somebody actually use the point for anything except to stab somebody? Seems to me that only allowing kitchen knives with blunt flat ends should be a priority as well.

Again, silly prattle aside, the only reason a gun exists is to kill.

And sometimes the killing of a violent person is needed to prevent the killing an innocent person. The obsessive drive to remove all means of protecting oneself by some people really escapes me and most others. It is almost like they want people to be hurt or killed. Ban guns, ban tasers, ban pepper sprays, ban protective vests, etc. The love affair with criminals needs to be classified as a mental disorder or something.

See your kneejerk reaction claiming I'm for removing all means of protecting yourself? That's part of the problem with gun advocates, their persecution complex rivals republicans and christians, though Id say in many cases they overlap. I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

The claim isn't about you. It is about the subject as a whole.

I wouldn't feel persecuted if semi-automatic weapons were banned. I'd question why anybody who claims that they were only for smart gun control would do so as it would expose him as a liar. A semi-automatic fires one round with one pull of the trigger which is the same as a double action revolver. So why ban one and not the other? Could it be due to something other than "smart gun control?"

You're right, let's just drop the charade, gun bans are silly. It doesn't really matter what the rate of fire is, a gun is a gun, let's not speak any further about ways to reduce their availability, instead let's do the exact opposite.


No. A person should want to ban guns that are the same as each other. A person should really only ever talk out of one side of his mouth if he expects to convince others to his cause whatever that cause is. Saying that a semi-auto needs to be banned but a revolver that is functionally the same should not be makes about as much sense as banning holding a gun in the left hand but allowing it in the right because southpaws are evil.
 
2012-12-29 11:45:24 PM

enochianwolf: MadAzza: I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

well to some extent you'll want to focus on poverty, education and mental health, then maybe you wouldnt have so many thugs to begin with. there is a black market for guns, with hundreds of millions of guns in this country there will always be a black market. There are assault rifles on the street illegally, and I'm sure law enforcement is always thrilled about that. You could impose a tax on firearm sales that pools into a comprehensive buyback program to incentivize the willful forfeiture of them... but alas, this is all coming too late. Statistically each household in America houses a firearm, including homes with mentally unstable individuals. It's a shame that the solution proposed by many is to increase the amount of guns instead of reversing it, making sure everyone, including teachers, carry at all times for maximum safety. What a ruggedly individualistic utopia, it's just like the wild west!


It's unfortunate that so many people who label themselves as progressive or liberal (again not directed at anybody specific) like to believe that being poor makes somebody a criminal. It seems to come up often in various topics.

The only solution I heard recently put forth was putting a police officer in schools and letting each school decide for itself. What people have against the police protecting kids, I don't know. NYC puts police in its schools. Has the number of shootings of kids by cops gone up? Are they more or less dangerous with cops?
 
2012-12-29 11:50:41 PM

enochianwolf: MadAzza: I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

well to some extent you'll want to focus on poverty, education and mental health, then maybe you wouldnt have so many thugs to begin with. there is a black market for guns, with hundreds of millions of guns in this country there will always be a black market. There are assault rifles on the street illegally, and I'm sure law enforcement is always thrilled about that. You could impose a tax on firearm sales that pools into a comprehensive buyback program to incentivize the willful forfeiture of them... but alas, this is all coming too late. Statistically each household in America houses a firearm, including homes with mentally unstable individuals. It's a shame that the solution proposed by many is to increase the amount of guns instead of reversing it, making sure everyone, including teachers, carry at all times for maximum safety. What a ruggedly individualistic utopia, it's just like the wild west!


"It wouldn't," then, is your answer to my question. Thank you.

Regarding the part I bolded: That is simply nonsense. Not every household has a gun. Other than obfuscation, what is the point of citing erroneous nonsense and calling it "statistics"?
 
2012-12-30 12:42:35 AM

enochianwolf: trappedspirit: enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?

Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.

If only the Founding Fathers could see the lethality of a Bushmaster


The lethality? That's kinda the point with a gun. And the reason this planet needs more responsible people using them than irresponsible ones. I don't suppose you'd be one of those people that want to try and bubble rap humanity to try and protect them from what the extremely tiny amount of crazy people do because emotions make taking freedoms away seem right at the moment?
 
2012-12-30 01:02:47 AM

MadAzza: Regarding the part I bolded: That is simply nonsense. Not every household has a gun. Other than obfuscation, what is the point of citing erroneous nonsense and calling it "statistics"?


I should have phrased it as "statistically there are enough guns in the nation to place one in each household", but I figure anyone reading that wouldn't think that I'm saying literally every house has a gun.

MadAzza: "It wouldn't," then, is your answer to my question. Thank you.


No, there is no solution I could offer that would keep crazy people from obtaining a weapon and unleashing it in public if they tried hard enough, but the point is that realistically nobody needs weapons with 10+ bullets to a magazine or burst fire or any so called Assault-Style weapon. Maybe we could find $10M to subsidize gun safes so everyone can have one no matter their income. Gun shows shouldn't be a place to purchase weapons easier. People should take mandatory tests for gun ownership like we do vehicles. Proportional yearly fees should be assessed like vehicles, revenue could be used for a national buyback program or put directly into law enforcement precints that experience the most violence. Do something, there are ways to limit crimes like what we've seen this year other than 'a cop in every school' and though I agree there's nothing wrong with having a cop around, needing to have him around isn't an ideal solution
 
2012-12-30 01:12:46 AM

trappedspirit: enochianwolf: trappedspirit: enochianwolf: Fire has many, many practical uses beyond ending a life. How many do guns have?

Guns are primarily to kill. That's why the U.S. Constitution tries to protect everyone's right to possession of them. There's nothing in the Constitution about hunting or target practice.

If only the Founding Fathers could see the lethality of a Bushmaster

The lethality? That's kinda the point with a gun. And the reason this planet needs more responsible people using them than irresponsible ones. I don't suppose you'd be one of those people that want to try and bubble rap humanity to try and protect them from what the extremely tiny amount of crazy people do because emotions make taking freedoms away seem right at the moment?


Extremely tiny amount of crazy people. Tell that to the victims
 
2012-12-30 01:19:55 AM

enochianwolf: Extremely tiny amount of crazy people. Tell that to the victims


Well the victims would be dead. I don't think that would serve any purpose.
 
2012-12-30 01:47:34 AM

Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: MadAzza: I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

well to some extent you'll want to focus on poverty, education and mental health, then maybe you wouldnt have so many thugs to begin with. there is a black market for guns, with hundreds of millions of guns in this country there will always be a black market. There are assault rifles on the street illegally, and I'm sure law enforcement is always thrilled about that. You could impose a tax on firearm sales that pools into a comprehensive buyback program to incentivize the willful forfeiture of them... but alas, this is all coming too late. Statistically each household in America houses a firearm, including homes with mentally unstable individuals. It's a shame that the solution proposed by many is to increase the amount of guns instead of reversing it, making sure everyone, including teachers, carry at all times for maximum safety. What a ruggedly individualistic utopia, it's just like the wild west!

It's unfortunate that so many people who label themselves as progressive or liberal (again not directed at anybody specific) like to believe that being poor makes somebody a criminal
. It seems to come up often in various topics.

The only solution I heard recently put forth was putting a police officer in schools and letting each school decide for itself. What people have against the police protecting kids, I don't know. NYC puts police in its schools. Has the number of shootings of kids by cops gone up? Are they more or less dangerous with cops?


It's unfortunate that so many people like to make stupid assumptions in order to attack their political rivals, instead of actually thinking about a topic.

People who are in poverty do tend to resort to drastic measures to survive and/or try to get out of it. They also make bad choices, like becoming members of gangs and criminal groups. Fix poverty, and less people will be compelled/forced to make bad and dangerous choices. Also, people with mental problems tend to find themselves in poverty situations, being unable to get and hold jobs because of their mental issues, so better mental health care would also help them, as well as other mentally-imbalanced people.

Unfortunately, doing either of these would require time, money, and a fundamental shift in American attitudes. And because of those attitudes, the first two are terrible wastes when applied to these particular problems. So, the question is: do you want to actually do something about it, or do you just want to ignore it and sling shiat everywhere?
 
2012-12-30 04:48:27 AM
enochianwolf: realistically nobody needs weapons with 10+ bullets to a magazine or burst fire or any so called Assault-Style weapon.

Realistically, nobody needs to drive an H-3 or a Tahoe to the supermarket.

Nobody needs to drive a Ford Expedition for any reason. Nobody needs to have more than two children. Nobody needs ice cream, chicken noodle soup, or Gatorade. Nobody needs more than one pair of socks.
Nobody needs anything but food, water, and someone to f*ck.
 
2012-12-30 09:27:06 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: enochianwolf: MadAzza: I'll repeat my question, enochianwolf, as you seem not to have seen it:

MadAzza: enochianwolf: I am for banning semi-automatic weapons entirely. Tell me how persecuted you'd be if that happened.

How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

well to some extent you'll want to focus on poverty, education and mental health, then maybe you wouldnt have so many thugs to begin with. there is a black market for guns, with hundreds of millions of guns in this country there will always be a black market. There are assault rifles on the street illegally, and I'm sure law enforcement is always thrilled about that. You could impose a tax on firearm sales that pools into a comprehensive buyback program to incentivize the willful forfeiture of them... but alas, this is all coming too late. Statistically each household in America houses a firearm, including homes with mentally unstable individuals. It's a shame that the solution proposed by many is to increase the amount of guns instead of reversing it, making sure everyone, including teachers, carry at all times for maximum safety. What a ruggedly individualistic utopia, it's just like the wild west!

It's unfortunate that so many people who label themselves as progressive or liberal (again not directed at anybody specific) like to believe that being poor makes somebody a criminal. It seems to come up often in various topics.

The only solution I heard recently put forth was putting a police officer in schools and letting each school decide for itself. What people have against the police protecting kids, I don't know. NYC puts police in its schools. Has the number of shootings of kids by cops gone up? Are they more or less dangerous with cops?

It's unfortunate that so many people like to make stupid assumptions in order to attack their political rivals, instead of actually thinking about a topic.

People who are in poverty do tend to resort to drastic measures to survive and/or try to get out of it. They also make bad choices, like becoming members of gangs and criminal groups. Fix poverty, and less people will be compelled/forced to make bad and dangerous choices. Also, people with mental problems tend to find themselves in poverty situations, being unable to get and hold jobs because of their mental issues, so better mental health care would also help them, as well as other mentally-imbalanced people.

Unfortunately, doing either of these would require time, money, and a fundamental shift in American attitudes. And because of those attitudes, the first two are terrible wastes when applied to these particular problems. So, the question is: do you want to actually do something about it, or do you just want to ignore it and sling shiat everywhere?


And Mitt Romney gets crap for talking about the 47% when it is Libs that truly are the ones that look down upon the poor and think that they are scum and are only a breath away from slitting your throat for the spare change in your pocket. Newsflash: being poor doesn't make somebody's morals vanish and having lots of money doesn't make somebody an angel.
 
2012-12-30 11:29:04 AM

kimwim: [static.ddmcdn.com image 400x269]
What a skid steer may look like.

/Reading comprehension, subby, is your friend.


Beautiful

/rolling rolling rolling
//keeps that shiat a'rolling
 
2012-12-30 12:55:26 PM

MadAzza: enochianwolf: realistically nobody needs weapons with 10+ bullets to a magazine or burst fire or any so called Assault-Style weapon.

Realistically, nobody needs to drive an H-3 or a Tahoe to the supermarket.

Nobody needs to drive a Ford Expedition for any reason. Nobody needs to have more than two children. Nobody needs ice cream, chicken noodle soup, or Gatorade. Nobody needs more than one pair of socks.
Nobody needs anything but food, water, and someone to f*ck.



Actually, if we're discussing societal improvement, there are a large number of people who really shouldn't have that. The side effects are continuing to be a burden on the rest of us.
 
2012-12-30 03:21:37 PM
Cows with guns
 
2012-12-30 07:08:25 PM
Steer did them a favor. Property taxes in Berlin are farking insane.
 
2012-12-30 08:05:18 PM

Benjimin_Dover: And Mitt Romney gets crap for talking about the 47% when it is Libs that truly are the ones that look down upon the poor and think that they are scum and are only a breath away from slitting your throat for the spare change in your pocket. Newsflash: being poor doesn't make somebody's morals vanish and having lots of money doesn't make somebody an angel.


I didn't say that, did I? Now, can you answer the question instead of slinging your shiat everywhere?
 
2012-12-30 10:06:13 PM
If I agree to get my balls caught in a chair, will you two stop with the back and forth about gun control?
 
2012-12-30 10:15:45 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: And Mitt Romney gets crap for talking about the 47% when it is Libs that truly are the ones that look down upon the poor and think that they are scum and are only a breath away from slitting your throat for the spare change in your pocket. Newsflash: being poor doesn't make somebody's morals vanish and having lots of money doesn't make somebody an angel.

I didn't say that, did I? Now, can you answer the question instead of slinging your shiat everywhere?


"Focus on poverty"

If that was somebody else that said it, then I made a mistake. It is hauled out by the left whenever there is a crime. "Oh, they are poor, that's why they do it. We have to close the wealth gap."
 
2012-12-30 10:23:59 PM

MadAzza: How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?


Most people who end up killing another human being using a gun (outside of self defense) are not "determined thugs."
 
2012-12-30 10:34:01 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Saying that a semi-auto needs to be banned but a revolver that is functionally the same should not be makes about as much sense as banning holding a gun in the left hand but allowing it in the right because southpaws are evil.


Right, so let's ban gravity because it kills people from time to time. It's all the same! Everything is functionally the same! Everybody dies! Whee. Herpaderpalerp.

Or, using your logic in a slightly different way, we should allow guns to be manufactured that look like candy canes and give them to children. Or, using your logic, we should allow guns that literally have no barrel and just randomly thrust projectiles at 800fps. Because it's all about the firing mechanism and absolutely nothing else.

Yes, I'm being intentionally obtuse, because that may actually open up your thought processes.

Keizer_Ghidorah: People who are in poverty do tend to resort to drastic measures to survive and/or try to get out of it. They also make bad choices, like becoming members of gangs and criminal groups. Fix poverty, and less people will be compelled/forced to make bad and dangerous choices.


I don't know where to begin, so I won't.
 
2012-12-30 10:35:49 PM

Benjimin_Dover: If that was somebody else that said it, then I made a mistake. It is hauled out by the left whenever there is a crime. "Oh, they are poor, that's why they do it. We have to close the wealth gap."


So why do white-collar criminals do what they do?
 
2012-12-31 01:27:08 AM

Benjimin_Dover: Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: And Mitt Romney gets crap for talking about the 47% when it is Libs that truly are the ones that look down upon the poor and think that they are scum and are only a breath away from slitting your throat for the spare change in your pocket. Newsflash: being poor doesn't make somebody's morals vanish and having lots of money doesn't make somebody an angel.

I didn't say that, did I? Now, can you answer the question instead of slinging your shiat everywhere?

"Focus on poverty"

If that was somebody else that said it, then I made a mistake. It is hauled out by the left whenever there is a crime. "Oh, they are poor, that's why they do it. We have to close the wealth gap."


Seems like you're deliberately misreading in order to attack your sworn enemy, the liberals. When your mind has become that unbalanced, I guess it's easy to see whatever you want in order to be combative and assholish instead of actually doing something.

Yes, people who have little sometimes resort to drastic measures. That's a fact of life that's existed for a very long time. There's nothing political about it. Idiots like you feel the need to make it political so you can sling shiat at your perceived enemies and to ignore the problem. If we work to eliminate homelessness, poverty, and desperate situations, then MANY problems will be alleviated. Maybe not completely, but anything is better than nothing, wouldn't you agree?

So, tell me, why are you against eliminating poverty, crime, and making America a better place, the kind of place its citizens are so quick to proclaim it is?
 
2012-12-31 03:59:03 AM

puffy999: MadAzza: How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?

Most people who end up killing another human being using a gun (outside of self defense) are not "determined thugs."


Really? Who are they, then?

Also: How would that keep determined thugs from obtaining them?
 
2012-12-31 01:25:44 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: And Mitt Romney gets crap for talking about the 47% when it is Libs that truly are the ones that look down upon the poor and think that they are scum and are only a breath away from slitting your throat for the spare change in your pocket. Newsflash: being poor doesn't make somebody's morals vanish and having lots of money doesn't make somebody an angel.

I didn't say that, did I? Now, can you answer the question instead of slinging your shiat everywhere?

"Focus on poverty"

If that was somebody else that said it, then I made a mistake. It is hauled out by the left whenever there is a crime. "Oh, they are poor, that's why they do it. We have to close the wealth gap."

Seems like you're deliberately misreading in order to attack your sworn enemy, the liberals. When your mind has become that unbalanced, I guess it's easy to see whatever you want in order to be combative and assholish instead of actually doing something.

Yes, people who have little sometimes resort to drastic measures. That's a fact of life that's existed for a very long time. There's nothing political about it. Idiots like you feel the need to make it political so you can sling shiat at your perceived enemies and to ignore the problem. If we work to eliminate homelessness, poverty, and desperate situations, then MANY problems will be alleviated. Maybe not completely, but anything is better than nothing, wouldn't you agree?

So, tell me, why are you against eliminating poverty, crime, and making America a better place, the kind of place its citizens are so quick to proclaim it is?


As soon as somebody shows me a way to actually eliminate poverty, I'll agree that his intention is to actually eliminate poverty. We have tried this war on poverty for decades. We have transferred trillions of dollars to the "poor" and all it has done create more "poor" that need help. Why? Because human nature, that's why. Every one of these topics has the same thread that runs through them, the same bunch of idiots proposing solutions that not do NOT take into account human nature. In fact, most of the proposed solutions are for other purposes than what they state they really are.

The fact still remains that being poor isn't a large driver for why somebody becomes a criminal contrary to the low image the elites on the left have of poor people. The immense cost being expended on "solving" the "poverty problem" in some attempt to get rid of crime is misguided and only serves to create more of what it claims to eliminate.
 
2012-12-31 08:32:41 PM

Benjimin_Dover: As soon as somebody shows me a way to actually eliminate poverty, I'll agree that his intention is to actually eliminate poverty. We have tried this war on poverty for decades. We have transferred trillions of dollars to the "poor" and all it has done create more "poor" that need help. Why? Because human nature, that's why. Every one of these topics has the same thread that runs through them, the same bunch of idiots proposing solutions that not do NOT take into account human nature. In fact, most of the proposed solutions are for other purposes than what they state they really are.

The fact still remains that being poor isn't a large driver for why somebody becomes a criminal contrary to the low image the elites on the left have of poor people. The immense cost being expended on "solving" the "poverty problem" in some attempt to get rid of crime is misguided and only serves to create more of what it claims to eliminate.


So, we should do nothing? Let them suffer and die? Or would you rather we round them up and put them in camps? If it's "human nature" to want to remain poor, then all we can do is put people out of their misery when they reach that point? Sounds like a very nihilist and asshole way of thinking.

Maybe we could reform the way we help the poor and needy, instead of abandoning them. Maybe we could adjust our personal and national attitudes towards each other, especially towards those who have less than us. Maybe we could be decent human beings.
 
2012-12-31 11:11:40 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Benjimin_Dover: As soon as somebody shows me a way to actually eliminate poverty, I'll agree that his intention is to actually eliminate poverty. We have tried this war on poverty for decades. We have transferred trillions of dollars to the "poor" and all it has done create more "poor" that need help. Why? Because human nature, that's why. Every one of these topics has the same thread that runs through them, the same bunch of idiots proposing solutions that not do NOT take into account human nature. In fact, most of the proposed solutions are for other purposes than what they state they really are.

The fact still remains that being poor isn't a large driver for why somebody becomes a criminal contrary to the low image the elites on the left have of poor people. The immense cost being expended on "solving" the "poverty problem" in some attempt to get rid of crime is misguided and only serves to create more of what it claims to eliminate.

So, we should do nothing? Let them suffer and die? Or would you rather we round them up and put them in camps? If it's "human nature" to want to remain poor, then all we can do is put people out of their misery when they reach that point? Sounds like a very nihilist and asshole way of thinking.

Maybe we could reform the way we help the poor and needy, instead of abandoning them. Maybe we could adjust our personal and national attitudes towards each other, especially towards those who have less than us. Maybe we could be decent human beings.


No. The poor need help. They need help on not being poor. The kind of help that we have giving them doesn't work. Just giving them basically cash payments has done nothing but show others who were not "poor" that it is a pretty good racket to get into. The number of poor has only grown. I want to help those people that truly are poor. Not the kind of poor that seem to be the majority in this country. People who two or three color TVs, xboxes, a car or two, 80 dollar shoes with a grill to go with them are not poor. Take a look at somebody living in squalor in Central America for what poor looks like.

At some point, a rational person would see that doing the same thing over and over and over again and it not solving whatever it was that was supposed to be solved, he would stop doing it and try something else. Not those in Washington. Nope. Throwing tons of money at them hasn't worked so it must be that we just haven't thrown enough at them.
 
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