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2012-12-29 08:54:20 AM
slimeball looking for a payday
 
2012-12-29 09:09:56 AM
"Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.
 
2012-12-29 09:13:17 AM
You have to allege that the harm was foreseeable, to establish that there was a duty to prevent it.

Or you could, you know, not file stupid lawsuits.
 
2012-12-29 09:29:42 AM
It would be more appropriate to sue the nutty raving assholes who strive to make guns easily accessible to nutbags.
 
2012-12-29 09:33:50 AM
I hope this scumbag gets shot, on the balls, repeatedly.,..
 
2012-12-29 09:55:27 AM
The state has to agree to being sued.  They could say no.
 
2012-12-29 10:10:39 AM
I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.
 
2012-12-29 10:31:37 AM
The United Way of Western Connecticut and Newtown Savings Banks have raised more than $3.5 million for their Sandy Hook school fund to help those affected by the elementary school shooting.

I think funerals and counseling funds will be available for anyone needing help.
 
2012-12-29 10:47:45 AM
Every once in a while, someone comes along to brilliantly illustrate that Shakespeare was on to something
 
2012-12-29 10:56:17 AM
that's some fine acting AJ!
 
2012-12-29 10:57:09 AM

Dinobot: that's some fine acting AJ!


oops. wrong thread!

But yeah... like i said before... ugh... this is insane.
 
2012-12-29 11:05:30 AM
Hey, Fark lawyers - Why don't you clean up your industry? 99% of you guys give the others a bad name.
 
2012-12-29 11:08:30 AM

blacksho89: Hey, Fark lawyers - Why don't you clean up your industry? 99% of you guys give the others a bad name.


Because they're as bad as the ones mentioned in the article?
 
2012-12-29 11:09:20 AM
Someone please kill Irving Pinsky and any other lawyer who tries to make money off this mass murder.
 
2012-12-29 11:12:02 AM

blacksho89: Hey, Fark lawyers - Why don't you clean up your industry? 99% of you guys give the others a bad name.


And parents that go to a lawyer seeking compensation give 99% of parents a bad name.  Grow up.
 
2012-12-29 11:12:17 AM
your child is alive.

fark you. fark you long and fark you hard.

fark

you
 
2012-12-29 11:12:24 AM
I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?
 
2012-12-29 11:13:14 AM
Big Irv is getting a lot of support for his attempt to cash in on this tragedy on his Facebook page
 
2012-12-29 11:13:25 AM
No one told you to live in Connecticut. You live in a boring state. What else is one going to do when they go mad?
 
2012-12-29 11:13:56 AM

namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.


With all the stuff that is freely available on the internet for anyone to view, I would guess that "PTSD" will just be the new norm for upcoming generations. I'm not going to lie; I was probably less affected by this tragedy happening today than I would have been 20 years ago and that makes me a bit sad. Now, I know it's my own fault, but I do credit having watched hundreds of horrible, horrible videos in the last 10 years as the reason it just doesn't hit me the same way. When you see the absolute worst of reality over and over, it kind of becomes routine. I somewhat regret ever having let my curiosity get the better of me.

This was a tragedy that should never have happened. A big "f**k you" to the folks looking to cash in.
 
2012-12-29 11:15:38 AM

Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?



Well.
 
2012-12-29 11:16:44 AM
Nice even amount of psychological damages she received.
 
2012-12-29 11:17:51 AM
I wish I hadn't read that. Now I feel sick.
 
2012-12-29 11:19:32 AM

namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.


My guess is the lawyer approached a number of parents and finally found one that fell for his bullshiat.
 
2012-12-29 11:19:33 AM

Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.


Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?
 
2012-12-29 11:23:14 AM
No. NEXT!
 
2012-12-29 11:23:17 AM

Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?


Not with the guns in their lockers, no.
 
2012-12-29 11:25:20 AM

Chabash: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?

Not with the guns in their lockers, no.


He shot through the front door. Principle picks up rifle from next to his desk and investigates vs. principle picks up ruler and investigates. I'd go with the rifle. After that there would have been plenty of time for someone else to grab a gun from a locker or other location.
 
2012-12-29 11:26:40 AM

namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.


Many of these kids will be messed up for life. Not as a direct result of the shooting, but as a result of the years of "Are you OK? Really, are you OK? Let's talk about it." mental health care services that will be shoved in their faces, recurring media coverage of "The Sandy Hook Kids: X Years Later", etc. The kids won't get over it because Munchausen-by-proxy parents, money-grubbing lawyers, meddlesome "community leaders" and attention-whoring reporters won't let them forget. Unfortunately, it will become an identity for many of them, a crutch as to why they can't or won't do anything with their lives. I'm picturing year after year of the gymnasium scene after the plane collision in Breaking Bad.

If parents want their kids to get over it, the best thing to do would probably be to get the hell out of town and start over somewhere else.
 
2012-12-29 11:27:15 AM

get real: The United Way of Western Connecticut and Newtown Savings Banks have raised more than $3.5 million for their Sandy Hook school fund to help those affected by the elementary school shooting.

I think funerals and counseling funds will be available for anyone needing help.


That would mean they whould have to trust those people to use the funds to help them. I don't know if I could. The United Way is a good organization but I would have to believe that the people of Sandy Hooks are running really low on trust right now. Sueing for 100 million dollars makes you like an arse unless you know how this stuff normally works out. You sue for 100 you settle for 20 the lawyer takes half and then Uncle Sam takes 50-60 percent. Now you're left with 4 million. Yeah that's a lot of money but when you factor in life long counciling and the decrease of earning potential then I think it's close to fair.
 
2012-12-29 11:28:22 AM

Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?



No, he'd be outside shooting at the decoy buck the killer planted to distract him. And when he got back to the building he'd encounter a dozen guys with rifles and not know who to shoot.


/we know what your point is, why don't you just say arming school officials would help instead of dancing around with your CSB
 
2012-12-29 11:29:37 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

"You can ching ching ching cash in on this tragedy."
 
2012-12-29 11:29:40 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: That would mean they whould have to trust those people to use the funds to help them. I don't know if I could. The United Way is a good organization but I would have to believe that the people of Sandy Hooks are running really low on trust right now.


Hmmm... Are you suggesting that they might get the same treatment as the 9/11 firefighters/volunteers?
 
2012-12-29 11:30:36 AM

namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.


I think it's more likely that the parents are being manipulated by someone telling them this is the right thing to do. Yes, they should be thankful their child is alive, but they also are worried about all the millions of things that this could mean for their child, who probably is showing symptoms of PTSD and freaking them the fark out.
 
2012-12-29 11:34:30 AM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.

Many of these kids will be messed up for life. Not as a direct result of the shooting, but as a result of the years of "Are you OK? Really, are you OK? Let's talk about it." mental health care services that will be shoved in their faces, recurring media coverage of "The Sandy Hook Kids: X Years Later", etc. The kids won't get over it because Munchausen-by-proxy parents, money-grubbing lawyers, meddlesome "community leaders" and attention-whoring reporters won't let them forget. Unfortunately, it will become an identity for many of them, a crutch as to why they can't or won't do anything with their lives. I'm picturing year after year of the gymnasium scene after the plane collision in Breaking Bad.

If parents want their kids to get over it, the best thing to do would probably be to get the hell out of town and start over somewhere else.


You could replace "rape" with "school shooting" in your scenario and it would be a perfect fit. Of the two acquaintances that I know who were raped (anecdotal, I know, but I believe it has a legitimate basis) the one that was coddled and told that it would be with her for the rest of her life and that she'd have to work every day to overcome it is a mess and still uses it as the reason for her every failure. The one without such coddling can almost joke about it now.
 
2012-12-29 11:35:15 AM

finnished: The Stealth Hippopotamus: That would mean they whould have to trust those people to use the funds to help them. I don't know if I could. The United Way is a good organization but I would have to believe that the people of Sandy Hooks are running really low on trust right now.

Hmmm... Are you suggesting that they might get the same treatment as the 9/11 firefighters/volunteers?


I was trying not to 9/11 the thread.
 
2012-12-29 11:35:39 AM
Nice country you've got there, America.
 
2012-12-29 11:36:09 AM

Abox: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?


No, he'd be outside shooting at the decoy buck the killer planted to distract him. And when he got back to the building he'd encounter a dozen guys with rifles and not know who to shoot.


/we know what your point is, why don't you just say arming school officials would help instead of dancing around with your CSB


Oooh, frisky. Rawrr.
 
2012-12-29 11:37:53 AM

Silly Jesus: You could replace "rape" with "school shooting" in your scenario and it would be a perfect fit. Of the two acquaintances that I know who were raped (anecdotal, I know, but I believe it has a legitimate basis) the one that was coddled and told that it would be with her for the rest of her life and that she'd have to work every day to overcome it is a mess and still uses it as the reason for her every failure. The one without such coddling can almost joke about it now.


Yeah, this sounds as legitimate as the rape.
 
2012-12-29 11:38:15 AM

Silly Jesus: Chabash: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?

Not with the guns in their lockers, no.

He shot through the front door. Principle picks up rifle from next to his desk and investigates vs. principle picks up ruler and investigates. I'd go with the rifle. After that there would have been plenty of time for someone else to grab a gun from a locker or other location.


Haha. You're funny.
 
2012-12-29 11:39:20 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: Silly Jesus: Chabash: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?

Not with the guns in their lockers, no.

He shot through the front door. Principle picks up rifle from next to his desk and investigates vs. principle picks up ruler and investigates. I'd go with the rifle. After that there would have been plenty of time for someone else to grab a gun from a locker or other location.

Haha. You're funny.


How so?
 
2012-12-29 11:40:06 AM
Quick, tell Obama that someone in the private sector is competing for his Sandy Hook exploitation rights!
 
2012-12-29 11:40:50 AM

finnished: Silly Jesus: You could replace "rape" with "school shooting" in your scenario and it would be a perfect fit. Of the two acquaintances that I know who were raped (anecdotal, I know, but I believe it has a legitimate basis) the one that was coddled and told that it would be with her for the rest of her life and that she'd have to work every day to overcome it is a mess and still uses it as the reason for her every failure. The one without such coddling can almost joke about it now.

Yeah, this sounds as legitimate as the rape.


Huh?
 
2012-12-29 11:42:31 AM
The farkstick, err attorney in question, was on the morning shows today. Looks just like you picture him in your mind.

He needs a good cock punching and a large dose of ass cancer.
 
2012-12-29 11:42:38 AM

Silly Jesus: Chabash: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?

Not with the guns in their lockers, no.

He shot through the front door. Principle picks up rifle from next to his desk and investigates vs. principle picks up ruler and investigates. I'd go with the rifle. After that there would have been plenty of time for someone else to grab a gun from a locker or other location.


Deer rarely shoot back.
 
2012-12-29 11:43:41 AM
Silly Jesus, Glocks are for kids!
 
2012-12-29 11:45:35 AM

Beeblebrox: Silly Jesus: Chabash: Silly Jesus: Abox: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was in high school in the 50's. He tells a story of walking to school one day after hunting early in the morning. He put his rifle in his locker and went to class (this was normal in those days). At about lunchtime, out the classroom window, he and a bunch of guys in class noticed a huge buck grazing in the outfield of the baseball field. He and some guys ran and got their guns and as they made it to the field they heard a shot. It was the assistant principle. He had beaten them there and got the prize.

How do you think that this weirdo would have fared going into that school and trying to shoot up the place?


Well.

Really? Several unarmed teachers confronted him and were slaughtered. You don't think that the principle with a rifle would have fared better than the unarmed teacher?

Not with the guns in their lockers, no.

He shot through the front door. Principle picks up rifle from next to his desk and investigates vs. principle picks up ruler and investigates. I'd go with the rifle. After that there would have been plenty of time for someone else to grab a gun from a locker or other location.

Deer rarely shoot back.


So since deer don't shoot back, it's preferable to go after a shooter unarmed rather than armed...er...something. Brilliant!
 
2012-12-29 11:46:06 AM
The school could counter sue the parents for letting their child out of the house without armed guards.
 
2012-12-29 11:48:12 AM
Breaking news: The State is above the law if you have to ask permission to sue. Gun nuts storm the Capitol to ensure Oppressive government is removed from being above the law.

//This stupid lawsuit is still stupid.
///Should asked for a $100,000 grand instead to not look greedy.
 
2012-12-29 11:50:33 AM

Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was high in the 50's...


I would think there's a greater chance that the principle flips one day and shoots a bunch of school kids himself.
 
2012-12-29 11:51:23 AM

skodabunny: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was high in the 50's...

I would think there's a greater chance that the principle flips one day and shoots a bunch of school kids himself.


Because that happens frequently...
 
2012-12-29 11:51:48 AM
Ah if only 20 lawyers were massacred instead of children, oh well.
 
2012-12-29 11:52:43 AM

Mikehod: your child is alive.

fark you. fark you long and fark you hard.

fark

you


Yeah, pretty much this.
"Thank god my child survived that horrific event. I now have a meal ticket!"
 
2012-12-29 11:53:16 AM

cerejaninja: "Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.


Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create. Law suits when the John Galt rent-a-cop fails to stop a psychotic kid with a Bushmaster.
 
2012-12-29 12:00:15 PM
Why do we continue to not put some law into place that holds the people doing this shiat responsible when they lose? I'm pretty sure other countries have laws in place for the "I'm going to sue because I want a lot of money for no real reason" lawsuits.. Like sending them to jail if found guilty of making up bullshiat for a easy payday.
 
2012-12-29 12:01:44 PM

cerejaninja: "Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.


If they had safety drills to deal with armed intruders, then they certainly "foresaw' it happening. The question is whether their preparations were reasonable. Probably nothing short of "maximum security armed camp" would be acceptable for the douchebag parents (the lawyer is doing his/her job; the parents are douchebags).
 
2012-12-29 12:03:34 PM

Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.


There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?
 
2012-12-29 12:03:44 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Every once in a while, someone comes along to brilliantly illustrate that Shakespeare was on to something


You're right. "Dick the Butcher" spoke that line, a member of the demagogue Jack Cade's "army of rabble," formed from his "pandering to the ignorant." This line showed well Shakespeare's understanding that tyrant's hate lawyers for their nasty habit of zealously asserting people's rights. That habit angers all enemies of justice, from brutal would-be-dictators, right on down to you.
Shakespeare certainly was onto something.
 
2012-12-29 12:09:27 PM

Silly Jesus: skodabunny: Silly Jesus: I hope he wins. It was absolutely preventable.

My uncle was high in the 50's...

I would think there's a greater chance that the principle flips one day and shoots a bunch of school kids himself.

Because that happens frequently...


It doesn't happen because good guys with guns only shoot bad guys with guns so the high uncle must be a good guy!
 
2012-12-29 12:09:51 PM

Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.

There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?


Except that the NRA wants to do this without police. Instead, you will have an army of George Zimmerman's guarding schools from...something. More police means raising taxes and we suburban white folks don't want that either.

Personally, I think the whole idea of armed guards in schools is moronic, but I'll take that over arming teachers and principals.
 
2012-12-29 12:10:42 PM

mittromneysdog: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Every once in a while, someone comes along to brilliantly illustrate that Shakespeare was on to something

You're right. "Dick the Butcher" spoke that line, a member of the demagogue Jack Cade's "army of rabble," formed from his "pandering to the ignorant." This line showed well Shakespeare's understanding that tyrant's hate lawyers for their nasty habit of zealously asserting people's rights. That habit angers all enemies of justice, from brutal would-be-dictators, right on down to you.
Shakespeare certainly was onto something.


www.alicia-logic.com

"Yes, you're very smart. Shut up."
 
2012-12-29 12:11:02 PM

styckx: Why do we continue to not put some law into place that holds the people doing this shiat responsible when they lose? I'm pretty sure other countries have laws in place for the "I'm going to sue because I want a lot of money for no real reason" lawsuits.. Like sending them to jail if found guilty of making up bullshiat for a easy payday.


Well court cost are suppose to do that but with income distributed the way it is the rich think those cost are chump change. And can just bog stuff down in court until they figure out a way around the conflict. While at the same time ruining the financial solvency of any up and coming businesses with legal fees.
 
2012-12-29 12:12:11 PM

mittromneysdog: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Every once in a while, someone comes along to brilliantly illustrate that Shakespeare was on to something

You're right. "Dick the Butcher" spoke that line, a member of the demagogue Jack Cade's "army of rabble," formed from his "pandering to the ignorant." This line showed well Shakespeare's understanding that tyrant's tyrants hate lawyers for their nasty habit of zealously asserting people's rights. That habit angers all enemies of justice, from brutal would-be-dictators, right on down to you.

Shakespeare certainly was onto something.


Pardon me.
 
2012-12-29 12:13:47 PM

Close2TheEdge: Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.

There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?

Except that the NRA wants to do this without police. Instead, you will have an army of George Zimmerman's guarding schools from...something. More police means raising taxes and we suburban white folks don't want that either.

Personally, I think the whole idea of armed guards in schools is moronic, but I'll take that over arming teachers and principals.


"If it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy," Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's top exec, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
 
2012-12-29 12:15:04 PM
$100,000,000 because a 6 y/o is traumatized over what she HEARD over a loudspeaker.

USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-12-29 12:17:57 PM
Jill Doe? I knew a girl who had that as a vanity plate, cause it rhymed with dil...
 
2012-12-29 12:18:27 PM

oldernell: The state has to agree to being sued.  They could say no.


As absurd as that is, at least here it can be used to prevent a stupid lawsuit.
 
2012-12-29 12:25:47 PM

Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.

There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?

Except that the NRA wants to do this without police. Instead, you will have an army of George Zimmerman's guarding schools from...something. More police means raising taxes and we suburban white folks don't want that either.

Personally, I think the whole idea of armed guards in schools is moronic, but I'll take that over arming teachers and principals.

"If it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy," Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's top exec, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Mr. LaPierre said the NRA would create a model school-safety program, including suggestions for the use of armed security at schools, for school design and other security elements. The NRA suggested that such a program could draw on volunteers, such as retired law-enforcement and military personnel, to help provide security.

 
2012-12-29 12:26:49 PM
Wow, an asshole lawyer, color me shocked.
 
2012-12-29 12:33:28 PM

Lorelle: It would be more appropriate to sue the nutty raving assholes who strive to make guns easily accessible to nutbags.


Yup, goddamned ACLU!
 
2012-12-29 12:38:50 PM
So if there are 400 students at the school, and the assumption that the families that lost a child would also get $100 million, that's $40 billion if every kid gets that kind of money. Not to mention the staff. Where does this lawyer think $40 billion is going to come from? How many police will Connecticut have to cut to pay this?
 
2012-12-29 12:41:18 PM
I can see lawyers foaming at the bit
'cos everyone knows the grieving process isn't complete until the lawyer cashes the cheque
 
2012-12-29 12:42:53 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Yet another reason to NOT watch the Today Show...
 
2012-12-29 12:47:47 PM
If it was that "Foreseeable" then why didn't mom and dad keep there little snowflake at home?
Unless they knew it was going to happen and looking for a paycheck.
 
2012-12-29 12:48:56 PM

snuffy: slimeball looking for a payday



Lawyer doing his/her job. The family are the slimeballs.
 
2012-12-29 12:49:35 PM
So, in effect, the parents are suing themselves, their community, even the other parents who lost children in the massacre.... Brilliant.
 
2012-12-29 12:50:37 PM

fat_free: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]

Yet another reason to NOT watch the Today Show...


Hah. Some people are shameless.
 
2012-12-29 12:53:44 PM
America: fark yeah.

Sad.
 
2012-12-29 01:00:19 PM

Close2TheEdge: Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.

There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?

Except that the NRA wants to do this without police. Instead, you will have an army of George Zimmerman's guarding schools from...something. More police means raising taxes and we suburban white folks don't want that either.

Personally, I think the whole idea of armed guards in schools is moronic, but I'll take that over arming teachers and principals.

"If it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy," Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's top exec, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Mr. LaPierre said the NRA would create a model school-safety program, including suggestions for the use of armed security at schools, for school design and other security elements. The NRA suggested that such a program could draw on volunteers, such as retired law-enforcement and military personnel, to help provide security.


And what is it that you are outraged or correct about?

I still can't tell....this seems more like one of those pavlovian reactions because it came out of someone whos not a liberals mouth.
 
2012-12-29 01:27:36 PM

wambu: cerejaninja: "Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.

If they had safety drills to deal with armed intruders, then they certainly "foresaw' it happening. The question is whether their preparations were reasonable. Probably nothing short of "maximum security armed camp" would be acceptable for the douchebag parents (the lawyer is doing his/her job; the parents are douchebags).


Well, I guess we'd better start having mandatory safety drills in case of a crazy gunman attacks at malls and movie theatres as well. In all seriousness, even with the past cases of school shootings, it is unreasonable to expect that every single school should have a special safety drill for this.

/not a huge fan of the living in fear thing, it's not really much of living.
 
2012-12-29 01:35:28 PM

styckx: Why do we continue to not put some law into place that holds the people doing this shiat responsible when they lose? I'm pretty sure other countries have laws in place for the "I'm going to sue because I want a lot of money for no real reason" lawsuits.. Like sending them to jail if found guilty of making up bullshiat for a easy payday.


This. In Scotland, filing a bogus writ is perjury, and it is routine to make an award of costs whereby the losing party pays the winner's legal fees.

In the course of business in the USA, I've had competitors file bogus lawsuits as an anti-competitive measure. A California judge is not allowed to award costs, just fees, so you need to file a second suit to get the former back. Also, the judge lacks the power to appoint an independent amicus curiae domain expert who could look at the merits of the case (in my situation, laughable if. You know anything about computers and IT) and tell the judgeit's all BS.
 
2012-12-29 01:43:09 PM

cerejaninja: wambu: cerejaninja: "Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.

If they had safety drills to deal with armed intruders, then they certainly "foresaw' it happening. The question is whether their preparations were reasonable. Probably nothing short of "maximum security armed camp" would be acceptable for the douchebag parents (the lawyer is doing his/her job; the parents are douchebags).

Well, I guess we'd better start having mandatory safety drills in case of a crazy gunman attacks at malls and movie theatres as well. In all seriousness, even with the past cases of school shootings, it is unreasonable to expect that every single school should have a special safety drill for this.

/not a huge fan of the living in fear thing, it's not really much of living.


I agree. I only meant to point out the legal dilemma. If you try to be prepared (no heads buried in the sand), you become "aware" of the risk. Then it's a question of how reasonably prepared you are.  Are drills enough? Is a single armed guard adequate? Are 100 militia stationed in every classroom too many? Is 24/7 surveillance required? You and I and others may have different ideas of where the line is drawn. You never know for certain until you have legislation and/or case law to guide you. If the  lawmakers are not douchebags (difficulty: many are lawyers) they will not allow the suit to proceed.
 
2012-12-29 01:48:42 PM

angrymacface: blacksho89: Hey, Fark lawyers - Why don't you clean up your industry? 99% of you guys give the others a bad name.

Because they're as bad as the ones mentioned in the article?


Evil is relative?
 
2012-12-29 01:52:49 PM

snuffy: slimeball looking for a payday


You're talking about the parents who went looking for a lawyer, right?
 
2012-12-29 01:57:09 PM

wambu: cerejaninja: wambu: cerejaninja: "Foreseeable harm"? Seriously? They should have known that an armed lunatic was going to come in that day and prepared accordingly, is that what is being suggested? Oh boy.

If they had safety drills to deal with armed intruders, then they certainly "foresaw' it happening. The question is whether their preparations were reasonable. Probably nothing short of "maximum security armed camp" would be acceptable for the douchebag parents (the lawyer is doing his/her job; the parents are douchebags).

Well, I guess we'd better start having mandatory safety drills in case of a crazy gunman attacks at malls and movie theatres as well. In all seriousness, even with the past cases of school shootings, it is unreasonable to expect that every single school should have a special safety drill for this.

/not a huge fan of the living in fear thing, it's not really much of living.

I agree. I only meant to point out the legal dilemma. If you try to be prepared (no heads buried in the sand), you become "aware" of the risk. Then it's a question of how reasonably prepared you are.  Are drills enough? Is a single armed guard adequate? Are 100 militia stationed in every classroom too many? Is 24/7 surveillance required? You and I and others may have different ideas of where the line is drawn. You never know for certain until you have legislation and/or case law to guide you. If the  lawmakers are not douchebags (difficulty: many are lawyers) they will not allow the suit to proceed.


Oh, I got the part that having a drill means that you were aware of the possibility of an eventual attack (didn't know for sure what side you were on, this is Fark after all, you can never be certain). And just to read your post and remembering that there is a (even if tiny) chance of this crook's argument to stick is saddening.
 
2012-12-29 01:57:49 PM

Katolu: namegoeshere: I'll say it for them. No.

And fark these parents for trying to make a buck off of this tragedy instead of just being incredibly thankful that THEIR CHILD IS STILL ALIVE. Yes, their little girl will need counseling, and will be at risk of PTSD. But even if they can't afford it (this is a reasonably well off community) I would be shocked if mental health care services were not being offered to these kids.

My guess is the lawyer approached a number of parents and finally found one that fell for his bullshiat.


In the Hartford Courant source article, he says the parents approached him with a week of the shooting.
 
2012-12-29 02:01:10 PM

WhippingBoy: Nice country you've got there, America.


Thanks.  It was a steal.
 
2012-12-29 02:05:40 PM
www.artizans.com
 
2012-12-29 02:06:01 PM
What a safe classroom might look like:
www.standeyo.com
 
2012-12-29 02:23:21 PM
I think they should sue the shooters mother for providing the weapons he used in the shooting.
 
2012-12-29 02:30:28 PM
Roland T. Flakfizer must have changed his name

/obscure?
 
2012-12-29 03:03:41 PM
i.ytimg.comscuzzballs.
 
2012-12-29 03:04:05 PM
Sue the state for not locking up the tards and crazy people, hmmmm maybe they will then lock up tards and crazy people
 
2012-12-29 03:06:41 PM
Goddamitsomuch. Just when I thought my opinion of humanity couldn't get any lower...
 
2012-12-29 03:19:49 PM
Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Please stay away from our schools and malls. Please find a law office, or even better yet, a legal convention.

Thanks,
America
 
2012-12-29 03:25:07 PM

Apik0r0s: Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Please stay away from our schools and malls. Please find a law office, or even better yet, a legal convention.

Thanks,
America


Newsletter?
 
2012-12-29 03:56:19 PM
My mom works in a CT elementary school (she is a recess/lunch lady) and any school employee or student can get free therapy from the state and also from Blue Cross/Blue Shield even if you are not insured by them. IDK the details of how much therapy or for how long but I think that's pretty generous.
 
2012-12-29 04:19:01 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]scuzzballs.


Ironically, Jim Adler was injured in a car accident after a Dallas police officer rear ended him with his patrol car.
 
2012-12-29 04:42:00 PM
I hope the judge dismisses the case immediately and makes them pay court costs for wasting the state's resources.
 
2012-12-29 04:42:50 PM

get real: blacksho89: Hey, Fark lawyers - Why don't you clean up your industry? 99% of you guys give the others a bad name.

And parents that go to a lawyer seeking compensation give 99% of parents a bad name.  Grow up.


And, we found the Fark lawyer! Congratulations, son. Didn't mean to imply you were compensating.
 
2012-12-29 05:19:49 PM
Is there a "Most Disgusting" category for end of year awards?

It may be a late entry, but this would be my nominee.
 
2012-12-29 05:33:49 PM
So the parents are upset that their daughter heard the shootings over the PA system. From that, should I assume that they would rather their daughter's teacher have been unaware of the danger and had his/her whole class including their daughter sitting in their seats waiting for a visit from the bullet fairy?
 
2012-12-29 05:47:28 PM

naugahyde flexport: So the parents are upset that their daughter heard the shootings over the PA system. From that, should I assume that they would rather their daughter's teacher have been unaware of the danger and had his/her whole class including their daughter sitting in their seats waiting for a visit from the bullet fairy?

I like that. We should refer to the shooters as bullet fairy in the news coverage from now on.
 
2012-12-29 05:50:21 PM

finnished: Nice even amount of psychological damages she received.


Like the kid is ever going to see a penny.  The kid will be messed up, drugged up, and stuck with an au pair while everyone else gets a payday: lawyer's fees, a trust fund to manage, parents with "expenses", counselors, preachers who can be "spiritual counselors".

JonnyG: With all the stuff that is freely available on the internet for anyone to view, I would guess that "PTSD" will just be the new norm for upcoming generations. I'm not going to lie; I was probably less affected by this tragedy happening today than I would have been 20 years ago and that makes me a bit sad. Now, I know it's my own fault, but I do credit having watched hundreds of horrible, horrible videos in the last 10 years as the reason it just doesn't hit me the same way. When you see the absolute worst of reality over and over, it kind of becomes routine. I somewhat regret ever having let my curiosity get the better of me.


While true, this affected kids in a grammar school on a normal day.  Young kids who don't have the coping skills to rationalize, some who may not even realize that their chicken fingers came from a once-living animal.  For some, this may be their very first experience of death in their still-new lives.  They didn't have the option to not follow the link or close the browser, they didn't go looking for video brutality, they didn't have 20 years or more of the real world to fall back on.  You're also inured, likely, because it wasn't in your community, in your life.  Even after watching the worst on the web, if you ever witnessed something horrific first-hand, you would be affected.  Maybe not PTSD-level, but it will give you reason to pause.  You're still human, whether you like it or not.  :)
 
2012-12-29 09:10:02 PM
Someone start a class action lawsuit against asshat lawyers on behalf of the people of the USA.
 
2012-12-29 09:32:38 PM

Close2TheEdge: Giltric: Close2TheEdge: Yet another wonderful side benefit that the NRA's hair-brained scheme would create.

There are already k-12 school districts with their own police departments. Having armed guards in schools is not a new idea. Detroit, Baltimore and Philly have had them for decades. There might even be some sort of correlation with high crime areas or places where blah people live....Now I understand that white people would rather have a high property value than protect their own children....cops in schools would make their lily white neighborhoods no different from those on the other side of the tracks....and noone in their right mind wants that.....right?

Except that the NRA wants to do this without police. Instead, you will have an army of George Zimmerman's guarding schools from...something. More police means raising taxes and we suburban white folks don't want that either.

Personally, I think the whole idea of armed guards in schools is moronic, but I'll take that over arming teachers and principals.


They NRA doesn't give a rats ass about getting armed guards into schools. Nor do they think that movies or video games are to blame. The ONLY reason they brought all that crap up was to get everyone to focus on the NRA's stupid ideas and stop talking about the one thing the NRA actually cares about, the prospect of an Assault Weapons Ban. And it worked, because guess what we aren't talking about much anymore?

Think about it for a second... Armed guards in every school would barely have any impact on the NRA's biggest contributors. They would make maybe one or two million dollars more per year in revenue, but that would be it. An Assault Weapons Ban on the other hand would do them a HUGE amount of harm, costing 10's of millions in revenue every year. So which do you think the NRA really cares about?

That being said... What is your proposal that is better if armed guards are moronic and arming teachers and other staff who volunteer is an even worse idea?

Please put your idea in terms of its impact on the actual Sandy Hook situation... So your idea has to be MORE effective than a trained and armed guard or than 3 or 4 staff members who were armed and who went through a few days of training every summer, would likely have been in that situation.
 
2012-12-30 12:01:08 AM

jmr61: snuffy: slimeball looking for a payday


Lawyer doing his/her job. The family are the slimeballs.


The lawyer could've, and should've, said, "Sorry, I don't think you have a case." That's as much a part of their job as actually litigating the case.
 
2012-12-30 01:20:28 AM

Duck_of_Doom: Even after watching the worst on the web, if you ever witnessed something horrific first-hand, you would be affected.  Maybe not PTSD-level, but it will give you reason to pause.  You're still human, whether you like it or not.  :)


This.

Even ignoring the stimuli that are absent when you see a picture or watch a video, there's a world of difference between seeing a mangled corpse and knowing the person they were before they became one. The Internet can prepare you fairly well for the former. The latter, not so much.
 
2012-12-30 04:43:06 AM
Yes, Virgina creatures that live on the blood and suffering of others do exist
No, they're not vampires
They're worse
They're lawyers
 
2012-12-30 08:53:29 AM
I think this lawsuit (while completely insane) is filed against the wrong party. Suing the State makes zero sense - unless telepathy is a recognized condition and they have staff prognosticators that knew this would happen and they didn't disclose in advance.

Shouldn't the girls' parents have filed against the gunman's parents -- in particular the Mom? Shouldn't she (of all people) been able to prevent this?

I still am not 100% sure whether the guns in the house (that were allegedly registered to her) were locked up properly or not. As he was 20, Mom couldn't have enforced him taking any prescribed medication for his condition(s) (?!?! - not sure what he's been diagnosed with or prescribed to take based on the available stories I've read).

Again, this is a terrible lawsuit and my thoughts and support continues to go out to the kids, staff and all those impacted by the tragedy. I don't care whether the lawyer was sought or sought the parents, two wrongs do not make it right!
 
2012-12-30 10:25:30 AM
Mr Pinsky www.isheepthings.com
 
2012-12-30 11:56:21 AM
This is why no matter what we do about the guns, we are still farked as a society. The people making the rules are douchers like this guy
 
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