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(The New York Times)   After yearlong investigation, Death Valley officially designated hottest place on earth at 134 degrees   (nytimes.com) divider line 50
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2012-12-29 01:15:49 AM
"Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
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2012-12-29 01:38:42 AM

phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
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Hottest I've ever experienced was 122F. Fark that shiat.
 
2012-12-29 01:40:40 AM

make me some tea: phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
[www.alicia-logic.com image 350x244]

Hottest I've ever experienced was 122F. Fark that shiat.


When you step out onto the road in Death Valley and your shoe soles start melting onto the asphalt, you know you've arrived.
 
2012-12-29 01:47:06 AM

phlegmmo: make me some tea: phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
[www.alicia-logic.com image 350x244]

Hottest I've ever experienced was 122F. Fark that shiat.

When you step out onto the road in Death Valley and your shoe soles start melting onto the asphalt, you know you've arrived.


That's why I only go to Death Valley in January.
 
2012-12-29 01:49:28 AM

make me some tea: phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
[www.alicia-logic.com image 350x244]

Hottest I've ever experienced was 122F. Fark that shiat.


When I was a kid my dad was working for a while in Bullhead City and one weekend staying with him it was 124F. Fark that shiat, indeed. Hell on Earth.

phlegmmo: When you step out onto the road in Death Valley and your shoe soles start melting onto the asphalt, you know you've arrived.


Actually, the road itself starts getting soft. You can stand on those cracks they repair with fresh tar and spin on your heel and twist it up like taffy.
 
2012-12-29 01:49:40 AM
If you have never seen Death Valley, you are missing out, it is a wondrous place.  Don't stay at Panamint Springs Resort.
 
2012-12-29 02:09:25 AM

violentsalvation: make me some tea: phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."
[www.alicia-logic.com image 350x244]

Hottest I've ever experienced was 122F. Fark that shiat.

When I was a kid my dad was working for a while in Bullhead City and one weekend staying with him it was 124F. Fark that shiat, indeed. Hell on Earth.


Laughlin/Bullhead are low elevation and get crazy hot. I can remember a day in Vegas, maybe 10 years ago, when the high temp tied with the all-time record of 117F (official temp at McCarran). The vehicle I was riding in had an outside thermometer and was showing 122F. The AC couldn't even keep up with that.
 
2012-12-29 02:30:28 AM
I was at Fort Irwin for a lovely 3-week tour once.  The hottest it got while we were there was 112.

In MOPP gear.  MOPP 2 most of the time, MOPP 4 during battles a couple of times.

Holy shiat we drank 5 gallons of water each per day.

I never sweat so much in my life.

/thank god I only did it once
 
2012-12-29 03:01:00 AM
I prefer Traumatic Head Wound Valley myself. Nicer people.
 
2012-12-29 03:56:28 AM

gopher321: I prefer Traumatic Head Wound Valley myself. Nicer people.


You're a hoot!


Anyway, one would think, however, that shiathole Texas would take the title, but what do I know?
 
2012-12-29 08:38:57 AM
The one time I visited Death Valley, it rained the whole time I was there.

/not that I was really complaining
//not a fan of the heat
 
2012-12-29 08:52:45 AM
I have never desired to visit a place called "Death Valley."
 
2012-12-29 08:53:46 AM
Tak!
 
2012-12-29 08:54:21 AM
I was just in Baker, California (just south of Death Valley) last weekend on the road to and from Vegas. Much more tolerable in December and got in the requisite visits to the Mad Greek and Alien Fresh Jerky. Had to introduce the snowflake to the wonders of the desert. The drive back to SoCal on Christmas Eve morning was beyond gorgeous. Now we're home in Michigan and it's snowing.

My hottest was during a summer gig teaching in Vegas when we hit 118 three days in a row. When I stepped outside I could feel moisture being pulled right out of the skin on my face. My car couldn't take it at all and just automatically overheated. The locals basically learn to go from building to car to building. If you want to take a swim, go at midnight - do not wear a bathing suit during the day. Good times.
 
2012-12-29 08:55:54 AM
They should name that place something ominous so people know not to go there.

phlegmmo: "Yeah, but it's a dry heat."


Makes sense if you've ever experienced 100f and enough humidity that acetone or MEK form puddles instead of evaporating. (or as they call it in some places in the South, spring) 105 and dry feels downright pleasant in comparison.
 
2012-12-29 08:58:27 AM
Hottest I've ever experienced was 148...in a gully near Austin's Lake Travis, land surveying on a 108 degree day in 2003, and a popcorn "storm" rained on us for about 2-3 minutes. My "gun" soon registered 148, and we had to quit.

That gun was accurate with temp readings to 1/10th of a degree (including heat index readings since it read 52% humidity). It was pure hell.

On the way out of the gully, I dropped the $50K Leica, and didn't even care as it (in it's bullet-proof casing) bounced of rocks and trees on its way down the hillside.

It was hotter than any sauna I've ever been in.

I drank 2.5 gallons of water that afternoon, and never took a leak. Four gallons total for the day.

I threw away every piece of clothing I was wearing that day, including my work boots.

/HOT story, bro
 
2012-12-29 09:02:06 AM
Come on, boys! The way you're lollygaggin' around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was a hundert an' twenty degree. Can't be more than a hundert an' fourteen.
 
2012-12-29 09:08:20 AM
Did the obvious tag collapse from heat stroke?
 
2012-12-29 09:14:58 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Hottest I've ever experienced was 148...in a gully near Austin's Lake Travis, land surveying on a 108 degree day in 2003, and a popcorn "storm" rained on us for about 2-3 minutes. My "gun" soon registered 148, and we had to quit.

That gun was accurate with temp readings to 1/10th of a degree (including heat index readings since it read 52% humidity). It was pure hell.


I made the mistake of bringing my Raytek with me to a race last year. The coolest temp measured in the car was ~105 and that was my skin. Much of the inside of the car was ~160f.... and we have to run with our windows up.
 
2012-12-29 09:31:19 AM
Here comes the science. With picture of record that didn't happen.
 
2012-12-29 09:35:18 AM

Mister Peejay: Civil_War2_Time: Hottest I've ever experienced was 148...in a gully near Austin's Lake Travis, land surveying on a 108 degree day in 2003, and a popcorn "storm" rained on us for about 2-3 minutes. My "gun" soon registered 148, and we had to quit.

That gun was accurate with temp readings to 1/10th of a degree (including heat index readings since it read 52% humidity). It was pure hell.


I made the mistake of bringing my Raytek with me to a race last year. The coolest temp measured in the car was ~105 and that was my skin. Much of the inside of the car was ~160f.... and we have to run with our windows up.


What kind of racing? Autocross? Were you wearing a driver's suit?

F-that.

At least you were having "fun," and not working to earn $12/hr.
 
2012-12-29 09:44:12 AM
Temperature is measured in the shade, and I wonder what the temp at Badwater Basin was. The estimates for what the temperature in the sun is during the hypothetical hottest day in July ranges from 180 to 205. At that temp, you are being sous vided.
 
2012-12-29 09:47:10 AM
It was only a measly 110 when I went this fall. Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes were awesome.

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2012-12-29 09:53:09 AM

LaViergeNoire: The locals basically learn to go from building to car to building. If you want to take a swim, go at midnight - do not wear a bathing suit during the day. Good times.


So its like living in Atlanta?
 
2012-12-29 09:54:39 AM

NutWrench: I have never desired to visit a place called "Death Valley."


Or go hiking on the Jornada del Muerto
 
2012-12-29 09:55:48 AM
i thought the hottest place on earth was actually VENUS at 800 degrees
 
2012-12-29 09:55:56 AM
On a side note, the most stars I've ever seen has been in Death Valley, at night of course. And I've spent a lot of time all over the west in the mountains and the desert.
 
2012-12-29 10:02:10 AM
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/Would a pink umbrella help?
 
2012-12-29 10:13:26 AM

NutWrench: I have never desired to visit a place called "Death Valley."


And remember: it's surrounded by OTHER DESERTS! So despite the fact that there's searing temperatures and lack of water for as far as the eye can see (except in the mountains of course), THIS gets called "Death Valley". I don't think I made you want to visit it more.
 
2012-12-29 10:31:35 AM

LaViergeNoire: I was just in Baker, California (just south of Death Valley) last weekend on the road to and from Vegas. Much more tolerable in December and got in the requisite visits to the Mad Greek and Alien Fresh Jerky. Had to introduce the snowflake to the wonders of the desert. The drive back to SoCal on Christmas Eve morning was beyond gorgeous. Now we're home in Michigan and it's snowing.

My hottest was during a summer gig teaching in Vegas when we hit 118 three days in a row. When I stepped outside I could feel moisture being pulled right out of the skin on my face. My car couldn't take it at all and just automatically overheated. The locals basically learn to go from building to car to building. If you want to take a swim, go at midnight - do not wear a bathing suit during the day. Good times.


Alien Fresh Jerky is awesome. If any of you have the cajones to make the trip I suggest a drive out to Saline Springs in Death Valley. You must have 4 wheel drive, the ability to repair tires in the middle of nowhere and the patients to drive approximately 50 miles on a dirt road for about 4-5 hours. Journey and destination are totally worth it. There are a lot of great things to do and see in Death Valley.
 
2012-12-29 10:37:17 AM
I'd rather be in Death Valley at 120 than Miami at 90.
 
2012-12-29 11:28:56 AM
Sadly, it's likely to have a lot of competition soon.
 
2012-12-29 11:49:37 AM

KellyKellyKelly: Did the obvious tag collapse from heat stroke?


I came to ask if the obvious tag had died of dehydration and was being eaten by vultures.
 
2012-12-29 12:26:25 PM

Arthurgoboom: KellyKellyKelly: Did the obvious tag collapse from heat stroke?

I came to ask if the obvious tag had died of dehydration and was being eaten by vultures.


Back in '91 someone hiked the salt pan with only a bottle of water. He collapsed on the way back to his car and died. His dessicated body was untouched by any scavenger. Even the vultures aren't stupid enough to linger in the valley during the summer.
 
2012-12-29 12:32:50 PM
Death Valley today Dec 29 - 50f/19f

Still nicer than the 12f/4f where I am
 
2012-12-29 01:38:57 PM
Last visit with my mom was at the end of JUNE. Her idea, not mine. Seemed like a bucket list item to me, so I went with it.

It was beautiful, but it still sucked. Got out of the car, walked 20 yards to peek into the meteor crater, lost all the hair on my legs.

Sunscreen does nothing to keep you from getting cooked.
 
2012-12-29 01:44:26 PM
Wonder what the avg temp is there, compared to Riyadh or some other mid east hell hole.
 
2012-12-29 01:44:37 PM

Civil_War2_Time:
What kind of racing? Autocross? Were you wearing a driver's suit?

F-that.

At least you were having "fun," and not working to earn $12/hr.


No driver's suits required, thankfully. I get together with friends and run on a grass parking lot.

And that's a joke we kick around all the time, when it's oppressively hot or 10 degrees and cloudy or 40 degrees and pissing rain or so dusty that you wish for an environment suit, and either way you're either driving or standing around working for 8-10 hours... "Remember, we do this because we think it's FUN!"
 
2012-12-29 01:46:22 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: i thought the hottest place on earth was actually VENUS at 800 degrees


Venus isn't on Earth, it's on the moon.
 
2012-12-29 02:02:42 PM

Mister Peejay: Jon iz teh kewl: i thought the hottest place on earth was actually VENUS at 800 degrees

Venus isn't on Earth, it's on the moon.


i thought it was on the mercury

part of the earth? my mom had a mercury grand marquis
 
2012-12-29 02:05:24 PM

weasil: Last visit with my mom was at the end of JUNE. Her idea, not mine. Seemed like a bucket list item to me, so I went with it.

It was beautiful, but it still sucked. Got out of the car, walked 20 yards to peek into the meteor crater, lost all the hair on my legs.

Sunscreen does nothing to keep you from getting cooked.


Did you mean the Ubehebe volcanic crater? I don't know of any meteor craters in DV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubehebe_Crater
 
2012-12-29 02:28:17 PM

fozziewazzi: weasil: Last visit with my mom ...

Did you mean the Ubehebe volcanic crater?


Why yes, apparently, I do.

Sorry --- must have been the heatstroke talking.
 
2012-12-29 02:32:34 PM

LaViergeNoire: I was just in Baker, California (just south of Death Valley) last weekend on the road to and from Vegas. Much more tolerable in December and got in the requisite visits to the Mad Greek and Alien Fresh Jerky. Had to introduce the snowflake to the wonders of the desert. The drive back to SoCal on Christmas Eve morning was beyond gorgeous. Now we're home in Michigan and it's snowing.

My hottest was during a summer gig teaching in Vegas when we hit 118 three days in a row. When I stepped outside I could feel moisture being pulled right out of the skin on my face. My car couldn't take it at all and just automatically overheated. The locals basically learn to go from building to car to building. If you want to take a swim, go at midnight - do not wear a bathing suit during the day. Good times.


Yup, that's about right. Mad Greek is awesome. You'll burn in 15 mins without sunscreen unless you're brown skinned.
 
2012-12-29 04:14:08 PM
I live on the southern end of Pahrump, NV, making my house less than a mile from the border of Death Valley National Park. I'm from Baltimore, so it was quite the change. We ended up having a day that was officially 116F, but seeing as how the elevation on my end is lower, and the wind blowing in from DV is always 5 degrees hotter, my outdoor therms were recording 123F.

I have no idea what I was thinking by moving out here. That whole "dry heat is better than humidity" thing is true, but only up to a point. Once it hits 110, all bets are off and it becomes impossible to get anything accomplished. Even smoking a cigarette is an unrealistic goal, and the "swamp cooler" ACs that everyone has out here don't do shiat.
 
2012-12-29 04:24:13 PM
Towne Pass, about 5000ft above sea level on the road to Death Valley. Neat, cool enough to get out, walk around and stretch my legs.

Neat, they have some cactus out here, cattle tongue cactus or something.

Neat, they have this symmetrical pattern of dozens of black spots.

Uh, the dots on the one I stepped close to all shifted quickly in about a half-second and then stopped equidistant from each other again.

They're ticks.

Back in the car.
 
2012-12-29 07:26:02 PM

Don Bigles: The one time I visited Death Valley, it rained the whole time I was there.

/not that I was really complaining
//not a fan of the heat


I've been told death valley can have deadly flash floods, is there any truth to this?
 
2012-12-29 08:17:26 PM

Skyred: Don Bigles: The one time I visited Death Valley, it rained the whole time I was there.

/not that I was really complaining
//not a fan of the heat

I've been told death valley can have deadly flash floods, is there any truth to this?


Go to Google maps and check out satellite images of the park. You'll see many very large alluvial fans at the base of canyons exiting out of the mountains onto valley floors. Flash flooding isn't common but if you find yourself in a narrow canyon when it has rained heavily recently make it a priority to get to high ground.
 
2012-12-29 08:20:56 PM
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2012-12-30 11:18:16 PM

fozziewazzi: Skyred: Don Bigles: The one time I visited Death Valley, it rained the whole time I was there.

/not that I was really complaining
//not a fan of the heat

I've been told death valley can have deadly flash floods, is there any truth to this?

Go to Google maps and check out satellite images of the park. You'll see many very large alluvial fans at the base of canyons exiting out of the mountains onto valley floors. Flash flooding isn't common but if you find yourself in a narrow canyon when it has rained heavily recently make it a priority to get to high ground.



I believe that Titus Canyon, one of the most popular 4wd drives in the park, gets closed during storm activity. It gets extremely constricted as you get towards the exit, and it drains a large area.
 
2012-12-30 11:20:23 PM

make me some tea: LaViergeNoire: I was just in Baker, California (just south of Death Valley) last weekend on the road to and from Vegas. Much more tolerable in December and got in the requisite visits to the Mad Greek and Alien Fresh Jerky. Had to introduce the snowflake to the wonders of the desert. The drive back to SoCal on Christmas Eve morning was beyond gorgeous. Now we're home in Michigan and it's snowing.

My hottest was during a summer gig teaching in Vegas when we hit 118 three days in a row. When I stepped outside I could feel moisture being pulled right out of the skin on my face. My car couldn't take it at all and just automatically overheated. The locals basically learn to go from building to car to building. If you want to take a swim, go at midnight - do not wear a bathing suit during the day. Good times.

Yup, that's about right. Mad Greek is awesome. You'll burn in 15 mins without sunscreen unless you're brown skinned.



Have they fixed the "thermometer" yet? Puzzling to me that it's the town's most conspicuous landmark, yet the thing hasn't worked properly in several years.
 
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