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(Al Jazeera)   Iran begins six days of maneuvers in the Strait of Hormuz to demonstrate its capabilities for naval interdiction, layer masks, clone tool   (aljazeera.com) divider line 41
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2012-12-29 08:30:08 AM  
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2012-12-29 09:10:22 AM  
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2012-12-29 10:48:58 AM  
We're sending the Love Boat there again?

/tips hat to Gary Larson
 
2012-12-29 12:14:21 PM  
The photo in the article is truly intimidating and cause for concern.
 
2012-12-29 12:26:15 PM  
Wonder how many of them out navy will have to rescue this time......
 
2012-12-29 12:26:39 PM  
mobile.france24.com
 
2012-12-29 12:26:50 PM  

Avery614: Wonder how many of them out navy will have to rescue this time......


/OUR......FFS
 
2012-12-29 12:28:29 PM  

Avery614: Wonder how many of them out navy will have to rescue this time......


Bout time we outed the navy. Bunch of fruitballs.
 
2012-12-29 12:28:38 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
Looks like a Disney ride.
 
2012-12-29 12:28:54 PM  
www.worldatlas.com
 
2012-12-29 12:29:39 PM  
Why does no one complain when the U.S. oooops 'alied forces' do war ooops defense training maneuvers.

/Whats Romneys opinion on all this.
//Or is he still ducking and cowering from the sheer panties wetting fear of Saint Sarahs Mother Russia..
 
2012-12-29 12:36:20 PM  
Ahhh....the Straits of Hormuz.. GQ for close to 24 hours, out on the weatherdecks standing by the 25mm during a winter rain storm the whole time. 30kt winds, driving freezing rain. Froze my balls off even after burying myself under foul weather gear and sandbags.

Good times, good times...
 
2012-12-29 12:40:03 PM  
I don't think their war game scenario is going to be particularly realistic, unless it involves them losing 90 percent of their fleet in the first 24 hours.

/The 10 percent are minisubs under weigh, which have about a three-day cruise radius.
 
2012-12-29 12:42:24 PM  

FarkinHostile: Ahhh....the Straits of Hormuz.. GQ for close to 24 hours, out on the weatherdecks standing by the 25mm during a winter rain storm the whole time. 30kt winds, driving freezing rain. Froze my balls off even after burying myself under foul weather gear and sandbags.

Good times, good times...


Huh. We went in on July 4. 110 degrees, escorted by the world's most languid dolphins. And it's a HUMID 110 degrees.
 
2012-12-29 12:46:47 PM  
All thier new boats will have glass bottoms so they can see all the old boats...
 
2012-12-29 12:50:18 PM  
So I can read "manoeuvres " as douchebag/hipster war games?
 
2012-12-29 12:51:19 PM  
Iran held a similar 10-day drill last December and sent a submarine and a destroyer into the Gulf four months ago just as US and allied navies were conducting exercises in the same waters to practice keeping oil shipping lanes open

Iranian sub:
3.bp.blogspot.com

Iranian Destroyer:
a.abcnews.com

U.S. Navy Carrier Strike Group:
i1214.photobucket.com
Plus an 8-squadron air wing

Yeah. Shaking in our boots over here.
 
2012-12-29 12:51:57 PM  
Big thanks to Iran for providing a target-rich environment.
 
2012-12-29 12:55:41 PM  

mbillips: FarkinHostile: Ahhh....the Straits of Hormuz.. GQ for close to 24 hours, out on the weatherdecks standing by the 25mm during a winter rain storm the whole time. 30kt winds, driving freezing rain. Froze my balls off even after burying myself under foul weather gear and sandbags.

Good times, good times...

Huh. We went in on July 4. 110 degrees, escorted by the world's most languid dolphins. And it's a HUMID 110 degrees.


So what you're saying is that it's a great vacation spot...
 
2012-12-29 01:03:57 PM  
That's a real cute sub machine gun in that picture... but this is what we're packin'

i.ytimg.com

...the speed causes the air around the projectile to burn.
 
2012-12-29 01:21:29 PM  
To be fair, if Iran wanted to do a first strike, they could use their three Kilo-class diesel-electric boats (which aren't toys) to lay mines in the Strait, and we wouldn't be able to detect it until the first one blew up. Then it was take us upwards of a month to clear those mines; first we'd have to take out their surface-to-surface missiles and artillery so that minesweepers could operate in the Strait.

Iran would lose most of its military in the ensuring air-to-ground campaign, but you'd be talking about a MAJOR oil shock worldwide. So they have cards to play, if they're feeling suicidal.
 
2012-12-29 01:26:31 PM  
It's 1983 all over again!
I'm not going back!
 
2012-12-29 01:28:07 PM  

mbillips: Iran would lose most of its military in the ensuring air-to-ground campaign, but you'd be talking about a MAJOR oil shock worldwide. So they have cards to play, if they're feeling suicidal.


So you're saying lose their military and hose their economy. Got it.
 
2012-12-29 01:53:38 PM  
I have two concerns.

1. Can landmines buried deep under a shallow sea be detected before they are ejected upwards into brown water?

2. Do underwater explosions behave in interestingly different ways in brown water versus blue water?

/Also, what do Marines aboard ship do with all that dip?
 
2012-12-29 02:12:44 PM  
Is this the part where we're supposed to piss ourselves in fear of their mighty fleet of shiatty little torpedo boasts and mini submarines?
 
2012-12-29 02:32:59 PM  
FTA: "submarines jet fighters". Wow. They have capabilities we haven't dreamed of yet. That's just screaming for photoshop competition.
 
2012-12-29 02:36:27 PM  

Old enough to know better: Is this the part where we're supposed to piss ourselves in fear of their mighty fleet of shiatty little torpedo boasts and mini submarines?


No, it's the part where our navy stocks up on first aid supplies for when we inevitably have to start pulling their sailors out of the ocean again.

BEHOLD THE IRANIAN WAR SKIFF !!! TREMBLE BEFORE ITS MAJESTY GREAT SATAN!!!!

northshorejournal.org
 
2012-12-29 02:59:44 PM  
 
2012-12-29 03:41:04 PM  
Dors this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon again?
 
2012-12-29 04:09:24 PM  
Meh, so what? Iran wants to do war games in their own waters, and they want a navy suited for defending a green-water zone, fine by me.
 
2012-12-29 04:41:44 PM  

Twitch Boy: Dors this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon again?


Yep, someone mentioned the Middle East and oil in the same sentence, so gas is gonna go up. They're already up here 20 cents for Christmas.
 
2012-12-29 05:01:13 PM  

mbillips: To be fair, if Iran wanted to do a first strike, they could use their three Kilo-class diesel-electric boats (which aren't toys) to lay mines in the Strait, and we wouldn't be able to detect it until the first one blew up. Then it was take us upwards of a month to clear those mines; first we'd have to take out their surface-to-surface missiles and artillery so that minesweepers could operate in the Strait.

Iran would lose most of its military in the ensuring air-to-ground campaign, but you'd be talking about a MAJOR oil shock worldwide. So they have cards to play, if they're feeling suicidal.


As someone who is about to move to the Athabascan oil sands, I find your comment... amusing.

If Iran were to attack us outright, even Obama wouldn't be able to plead for peace effectively. The U.S. would do what it's been doing - go in, destroy the infrastructure, then spend 20 years trying to rebuild it while the locals try to kill us.

If Iran were to stop Middle East oil from getting to market, I'm sure their neighbors would not be too eager to help them in any war, seeing as how much more than the Iranian economy would be at stake.

And Canada takes one step closer to world domination. All this just makes a wonderful spike in the Canadian economy, which has control of more oil than the entire Middle East combined.

In short, Iran:

i1214.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-29 07:05:13 PM  

tuxq: ...the speed causes the air around the projectile to burn.


Actually that shot is after impact.
It's not the air that's burning, it is the plasma-fied remains of the object (I think a concrete wall) that the projectile hit.
 
2012-12-29 11:29:41 PM  

sheep snorter: Why does no one complain when the U.S. oooops 'alied forces' do war ooops defense training maneuvers.


The folks in Best Korea always complain about U.S. training exercises near their turf.  As for Iran, I think Ahmadinnerjacket likes having us around because it gives him someone to laugh at and ridicule.  When you have as many pixels missiles and ships as he does, you can afford to be cocky about the Evil Satan™.
 
2012-12-30 12:25:08 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: I have two concerns.

1. Can landmines buried deep under a shallow sea be detected before they are ejected upwards into brown water?

2. Do underwater explosions behave in interestingly different ways in brown water versus blue water?

/Also, what do Marines aboard ship do with all that dip?


Land mines are wee tiny things that wouldn't dent the average ship's hull unless attached, limpet-like.
 
2012-12-30 12:29:25 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: mbillips: To be fair, if Iran wanted to do a first strike, they could use their three Kilo-class diesel-electric boats (which aren't toys) to lay mines in the Strait, and we wouldn't be able to detect it until the first one blew up. Then it was take us upwards of a month to clear those mines; first we'd have to take out their surface-to-surface missiles and artillery so that minesweepers could operate in the Strait.

Iran would lose most of its military in the ensuring air-to-ground campaign, but you'd be talking about a MAJOR oil shock worldwide. So they have cards to play, if they're feeling suicidal.

As someone who is about to move to the Athabascan oil sands, I find your comment... amusing.

If Iran were to attack us outright, even Obama wouldn't be able to plead for peace effectively. The U.S. would do what it's been doing - go in, destroy the infrastructure, then spend 20 years trying to rebuild it while the locals try to kill us.

If Iran were to stop Middle East oil from getting to market, I'm sure their neighbors would not be too eager to help them in any war, seeing as how much more than the Iranian economy would be at stake.

And Canada takes one step closer to world domination. All this just makes a wonderful spike in the Canadian economy, which has control of more oil than the entire Middle East combined.

In short, Iran:

[i1214.photobucket.com image 468x327]


No, we wouldn't invade. We'd destroy their military capability from the air and sea, sweep the mines out of the gulf, and dare them to do something about it. Invading would be stupid and counterproductive, and not at all in line with the Obama doctrine (Libya is a good example of said doctrine).
 
2012-12-30 12:32:32 AM  

Gawdzila: tuxq: ...the speed causes the air around the projectile to burn.

Actually that shot is after impact.
It's not the air that's burning, it is the plasma-fied remains of the object (I think a concrete wall) that the projectile hit.


Wrong. That's what the projectile looks like when it's coming out of the launcher at Mach a zillion. Not that that's anywhere CLOSE to being an operational weapon.
 
2012-12-30 12:37:21 AM  

mbillips: No, we wouldn't invade. We'd destroy their military capability from the air and sea, sweep the mines out of the gulf, and dare them to do something about it. Invading would be stupid and counterproductive, and not at all in line with the Obama doctrine (Libya is a good example of said doctrine).


I'm not so sure about that. I do see your point and agree that Obama wouldn't want to invade, but I'm not sure that even he could stop it, politically speaking, if we were directly attacked.
 
2012-12-30 01:26:04 AM  

mbillips: Wrong. That's what the projectile looks like when it's coming out of the launcher at Mach a zillion.


Oh joy, snidely curt condescension is always a pleasure to deal with. Let me return it in kind.

WRONG.
That's a screenshot from a video of a test firing. You can watch it yourself to see precisely how incorrect you are.
You can see at around the 4-sec mark where that shot with the giant orange blast was taken. While there is a small plume of superheated air behind the projectile in flight (@~6.5 sec), it looks nothing like the aforeposted photo. As you can see at the end of the clip, that rather more explosive visual only happens AFTER it strikes the target.
 
2012-12-30 12:00:01 PM  
Lol, a buddy of mine was in naval intelligence and we've discussed this before. Americans love to try to sell Iran short, but they're far better off in a military sense than we want to give them credit for. Their crafts are small, agile, and fast. Our ships are built largely to attack other large ships, so Iran actually has some capability against our larger boats. In fact they've been having fun sending small skiffs across the bows of our ships, and throwing suitcases full of socks and other silly items in front of our boats. And our boats can't do anything to stop them. It's also a message - one of those suitcases could easily be full of C4, and both we and they know it.

You don't need the latest and greatest toys to be deadly, especially when they know how to exploit our weaknesses. Don't sell a civilization - which has existed two orders of magnitude and then some longer than ours - short.
 
2012-12-31 11:09:29 AM  

scubamage: Lol, a buddy of mine was in naval intelligence and we've discussed this before. Americans love to try to sell Iran short, but they're far better off in a military sense than we want to give them credit for. Their crafts are small, agile, and fast. Our ships are built largely to attack other large ships, so Iran actually has some capability against our larger boats. In fact they've been having fun sending small skiffs across the bows of our ships, and throwing suitcases full of socks and other silly items in front of our boats. And our boats can't do anything to stop them. It's also a message - one of those suitcases could easily be full of C4, and both we and they know it.

You don't need the latest and greatest toys to be deadly, especially when they know how to exploit our weaknesses. Don't sell a civilization - which has existed two orders of magnitude and then some longer than ours - short.


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