Rootus: I had freedom until I was 35, now I have two kids. Yeah, freedom was great, enjoyed every minute of it. And yep, I hated kids, still do in fact. Except mine. Couldn't imagine life without them.IMO make your choice as an adult (in other words, 25+) and don't look back. You'll make the right choice. Some people are definitely not well suited to raising kids, and recognizing that would save everyone a headache./prophylactics should be plentiful and free, it's a good investment
BlousyBrown: There are a lot of people who should not have children, and I'm one of those people. I recognize that.I've been so lucky to find a great guy who doesn't want them either. I don't think it's selfish to not havechildren, for me it's just the responsible choice.
drjekel_mrhyde: I have one kid and do not plan on having more./What do I get?
MBooda: What Is It Like To Be an Adult and Not Have Kids?Nice, except for the annoying compulsion to tell everybody What Is It Like To Be an Adult and Not Have Kids.
Tommy Moo: Mouser: Life: It's not about you.Why the hell shouldn't it be? No, seriously. What cosmic principle did I ever swear fealty to that demands I should sacrifice my happiness for another person? Why is having one or two kids your sacred duty to those potential kids, but not the 5th or 6th? I'm a man. I could, in principle, sire thousands of potential kids. Am I wrong to not bring them into the world? Then what's so special about the first one?I don't want kids right now because I don't think they would make me happy. If that changes one day, then I will have one. But not more than one, because I want to contribute to negative population growth. Anyone who has more than two kids and calls him/herself an environmentalist is a farking hypocrite.
Eegah: BlousyBrown: There are a lot of people who should not have children, and I'm one of those people. I recognize that.I've been so lucky to find a great guy who doesn't want them either. I don't think it's selfish to not havechildren, for me it's just the responsible choice.That about sums it up for me (although I found a great gal).I've heard the "selfish" accusation before. I've never understood how it's selfish to not bring more children into an already overpopulated world.
ramblinwreck: I miss those days of independence and being DINKs, but it's hard to imagine life without my two kids.
pla: namatad : How are 2-3 dogs at a time not the same as having kids that never grow up?publikenemy : Is taking care of a dog or cat not a PIA sometimes?Imagine a ferret that understands the destructive power of fire and power tools.Imagine a dog that costs $2k/year in doctors visits and you can't chose "the shot" instead of that insanely expensive procedure.Imagine leaving your 7YO home alone for the weekend with just a giant bowl of food and a fresh litterbox.Sure, sometimes, I need to trim mats out of my cat's fur. Take them to their yearly vet visit ($150, done until next year). I play with them daily before feeding them. And the rest of they day, they do their thing, I do mine, occasionally I'll give them a scritch on the chin if one comes within arm's length.The difference? Parents define their lives around parenting. I just "have" a mostly-self-entertaining pair of cats.
Quantum Apostrophe: We are programmed to reproduce, and our brains are wired to get rewards from having kids.
Eegah: That about sums it up for me (although I found a great gal).I've heard the "selfish" accusation before. I've never understood how it's selfish to not bring more children into an already overpopulated world.
cryinoutloud: Eegah: That about sums it up for me (although I found a great gal).I've heard the "selfish" accusation before. I've never understood how it's selfish to not bring more children into an already overpopulated world.It's selfish if your reason for not having kids is so that you can have more money. Unless you're dirt poor, that is a selfish reason.But if you'd rather have money than anything else, just as well you don't have any kids anyway. Try to keep it that way.
sycraft: It's from bitter parents. You find that parents that are truly happy with their choice, and there are a great many of them, don't feel the need to harass you about having children. My cousins are like that, they have two kids, couldn't be happier with their family, and never give me any shiat for having none and having no plans for any. They made their choice, they are happy in it, they don't feel the need to harp on others.However there are more than a few parents who are bitter and resentful to people without children and the freedom they have. They are not happy with their choice and so justify it as the only "correct" choice. They hate on those who did things differently because it shows them what they want and cannot have.As a practical matter, it can be a rather unselfish act to not have kids. If we are to have a stable world, we need to stop the massive population growth. No that can be done China style where the government enforces shiat... or it can be done in a voluntary fashion. Some people have no children and thus others that want more than 2 can have it, and not affect growth.
cryinoutloud: Eegah: That about sums it up for me (although I found a great gal).I've heard the "selfish" accusation before. I've never understood how it's selfish to not bring more children into an already overpopulated world.It's selfish if your reason for not having kids is so that you can have more money. Unless you're dirt poor, that is a selfish reason.But if you'd rather have money than anything else, just as well you don't have any kids anyway. Try to keep it that way.You've got it backwards. It's I don't want kids, therefore, I have more money: not, I want more money, so I won't have kids.
singularity or bust: I like how TFA's argument for kids is basically "shiat, I'm bored. Better have kids."
imfallen_angel: Kibbler: So can you tell us which makes you more explosively outraged, people who don't have kids, but you think they should, or people who do have kids, but you think they shouldn't?I'm not saying that everyone should have kids, but those that don't, shouldn't believe themselves better... but yet, they do, over and over, then at some point, most whine about missing out.Funny how most have dogs and need to rant about these dogs though... over and over.I simply don't like those people...outraged? nah... just finding them pathetic is enough.Then there's those that are this very thing, have kids anyways, and still treat the dogs better.It's pretty sad.
BolshyGreatYarblocks: To improve future human security, we need to lessen the corporate/financial overlordship and increase the sense of community and mutual enjoyment of lives lived with others, including and especially families.
enderthexenocide: i'm 33, single, with no kids. and to be honest it kind of sucks. don't get me wrong, i enjoyed the hell out of my 20s, and at this point in my life i have financial and personal freedom that my married-with-kids friends lack. but i'm bored.i was single and childless for a long time. it was fun, but now i want to move on to something new. i can't see myself being single and childless the rest of my life, i just think i'll be bored to death in another couple years. i want the challenge and the experience of raising children, i want to see what that's like.
pla: "Who will take care of you when you get old?" - You mean like your grudging monthly visit to "the home" to see your parents?
Banned on the Run: The "no kids" people are alot like the atheists. Rather than quietly go on with their lives, they feel they need to both tell you about their choice and defend it without solicitation.
Yzziefrog: It's quite possible to make the decision not to have kids, and be happy with it, and still recognize what you missed.
miscreant: I assume you're talking about the 2nd writer. I read that and thought "I bet he doesn't have any actual passions".
Yzziefrog: Basically, I'd encourage people to spend more time deciding what works best in their own lives based on their strengths and weaknesses, and less time judging other people for making different choices.
Godscrack: The whole 'You don't know what you're missing by having kids' argument is stupid.You can't miss something you never had.
Fissile: I know LOTS of people who have children, but shouldn't.
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