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(White House)   Yo dawg, I herd you don't like responding to petitions   (petitions.whitehouse.gov) divider line 43
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2012-12-29 03:07:26 AM
 
2012-12-29 09:26:30 AM
We should get a petion for people to understand the difference between "herd" and "heard".

Also, the whitehouse is trolling all of you. It's just a way for them to get all of your information and put you on a no fly terrorist watch-list.
 
2012-12-29 09:26:57 AM
Trolls trolling trolls.
 
2012-12-29 09:27:16 AM
img526.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-29 09:28:56 AM
Obama is a god. He doesn't need to respond to your pathetic wants and needs.

Move along before something bad happens...

wotthefark: We should get a petion for people to understand the difference between "herd" and "heard".

Also, the whitehouse is trolling all of you. It's just a way for them to get all of your information and put you on a no fly terrorist watch-list.


I quit flying the moment TSA showed up in airports.

Trains are relaxing enough since I never have to be anywhere in a hurry.
 
2012-12-29 09:30:55 AM
For subtard:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses
 
2012-12-29 09:35:36 AM

diaphoresis: Obama is a god. He doesn't need to respond to your pathetic wants and needs.

Move along before something bad happens...

wotthefark: We should get a petion for people to understand the difference between "herd" and "heard".

Also, the whitehouse is trolling all of you. It's just a way for them to get all of your information and put you on a no fly terrorist watch-list.

I quit flying the moment TSA showed up in airports.

Trains are relaxing enough since I never have to be anywhere in a hurry.


All part of the troll. More people on Amtrak makes the railroad pensions solvent.
 
2012-12-29 09:38:04 AM
How, exactly, are they supposed to respond to petitions like letting states secede from the country? Or declaring WBC a hate group (whatever that means under federal law)?
 
2012-12-29 09:39:01 AM

Sargun: For subtard:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses


Still nothing on the Death Star one.
 
2012-12-29 09:40:21 AM
This is an outrage!

It's one thing to wage endless wars based on lies, to torture, to kidnap, to deny due process, to maintain extralegal offshore prisons, to conduct presidential diplomacy in the form of secret drone strikes.

BUT WHEN I SUBMIT 150 PETITIONS DEMANDING THE TRUTH ON U.N. CONSPIRACY TO TAKE MY GUNS/THREATEN MY MARRIAGE/SEIZE MY INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS, I DEMAND A RESPONSE!!!11
 
2012-12-29 09:42:21 AM
I doth protest your protest.
 
2012-12-29 09:43:07 AM
My personal fave Link (Pops)
 
2012-12-29 09:51:05 AM
There was already a petition to take the petitions seriously.  The response is worth reading.
 
2012-12-29 09:55:38 AM
Two-word response: Grow up

/Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995 (PRA), P.L. 10413
 
2012-12-29 09:56:31 AM

RsquaredW: Sargun: For subtard:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses

Still nothing on the Death Star one.


I have a very bad feeling about this.
 
2012-12-29 10:02:42 AM
Don't sign that petition!
 
2012-12-29 10:03:21 AM

Byno: My personal fave Link (Pops)


This is the one I'm waiting for a response to, as well.
 
2012-12-29 10:36:54 AM
Free Nelson Mandela!

They freed him already.
 
2012-12-29 10:41:05 AM

diaphoresis: Obama is a god. He doesn't need to respond to your pathetic wants and needs.

Move along before something bad happens...

wotthefark: We should get a petion for people to understand the difference between "herd" and "heard".

Also, the whitehouse is trolling all of you. It's just a way for them to get all of your information and put you on a no fly terrorist watch-list.

I quit flying the moment TSA showed up in airports.

Trains are relaxing enough since I never have to be anywhere in a hurry.


Brilliant logic, except that since we didn't stop them from taking over airports they are now on the verge of taking over train stations and bus depots, setting up checkpoints on major highways, and even handling security at farking sports stadiums.
 
2012-12-29 10:48:07 AM
www.zulkey.com
 
2012-12-29 10:56:35 AM
 
2012-12-29 10:57:26 AM
They do respond, but they mail out vague and otherwise uninteresting statements.
I doubt president elusive wants to be nailed down on some issue brought up by a random member of the public.
 
2012-12-29 10:59:48 AM

diaphoresis: Obama is a god. He doesn't need to respond to your pathetic wants and needs.

Move along before something bad happens...

wotthefark: We should get a petion for people to understand the difference between "herd" and "heard".

Also, the whitehouse is trolling all of you. It's just a way for them to get all of your information and put you on a no fly terrorist watch-list.

I quit flying the moment TSA showed up in airports.

Trains are relaxing enough since I never have to be anywhere in a hurry.


If only they would bring back reasonably-priced pullmans. And *real* dining cars. I miss the old Aztec Eagle and the 20th Century Limited.
 
2012-12-29 11:05:10 AM
www.questionablecontent.net
 
2012-12-29 11:11:07 AM
A total of 25,000 signatures on a petition to repeal bananas, or whatever -- assuming they even make their goal -- means absolutely nothing out of a population of 315,000,000+ (as of this week). I make that less than .00008% who have their particular panties in a twist. Why should the national government pay significant attention and tax money on an ad hoc, unorganized, undocumented, usually spur of the moment fragment of complainers like that?

Tell me when any of these basement-based time-wasters organize a political party. Or even get an office on 'K' Street.
 
2012-12-29 11:31:13 AM
The petition site is ludicrous and a waste of time and resources.
 
2012-12-29 11:38:51 AM
www.puertochan.org
 
2012-12-29 11:45:47 AM

mksmith: A total of 25,000 signatures on a petition to repeal bananas, or whatever -- assuming they even make their goal -- means absolutely nothing out of a population of 315,000,000+ (as of this week). I make that less than .00008% who have their particular panties in a twist. Why should the national government pay significant attention and tax money on an ad hoc, unorganized, undocumented, usually spur of the moment fragment of complainers like that?

Tell me when any of these basement-based time-wasters organize a political party. Or even get an office on 'K' Street.


Supposing that the 25,000 signitures came from the same locality, or all were of some other grouping factor (bought the same bananas, all had the same medical condition, all suffered banana related violence) then the petition could be useful. The policy experts could thus make small actions that adress the particular issue of the petitioners. IE Ban Bananas! They are too Sharp! The solution could be a tax credit for blunter bananas, or warning stickers.
 
2012-12-29 11:51:35 AM

Notabunny: Because goofy


"No. Go away. And take your meds." is a valid response.
 
2012-12-29 11:52:05 AM

Serious Black: How, exactly, are they supposed to respond to petitions like letting states secede from the country? Or declaring WBC a hate group (whatever that means under federal law)?


"We settled this issue over 140 years ago, the answer is NO" and "as long as all they do is protests and they don't cross the 'yelling FIRE in a crowded theater' line, their words and actions are protected by the same 1st Amendment that allows you to submit even the dumbest, most asinine petitions imaginable without any fear of reprisal."

That's how.
 
2012-12-29 12:06:54 PM
Does anyone know when they came up with the 25,000 signature threshold? Because if it was prior to the internet becoming mainstream then it should be upped by at least a factor of a hundred, if not a thousand.
 
2012-12-29 12:12:27 PM

NewportBarGuy: Free Nelson Mandela!

They freed him already.


So what you're saying is that the system works?
 
2012-12-29 12:45:05 PM

diaphoresis: Obama is a god. He doesn't need to respond to your pathetic wants and needs.

Move along before something bad happens....


I REALLY wish the Right-Wing would stop deifying President Obama. I mean everywhere you turn, you see Right-Wingers declaring Obama God, or a savior and I think they're misunderstanding what the office of the presidency can actually accomplish. PLUS it makes it so much weirder when people like Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow and Arianna Huffington point out his policy flaws. I know he seems so much larger than life, but seriously guys, he's just a President.
 
2012-12-29 12:52:04 PM

bdMurray: mksmith: A total of 25,000 signatures on a petition to repeal bananas, or whatever -- assuming they even make their goal -- means absolutely nothing out of a population of 315,000,000+ (as of this week). I make that less than .00008% who have their particular panties in a twist. Why should the national government pay significant attention and tax money on an ad hoc, unorganized, undocumented, usually spur of the moment fragment of complainers like that?

Tell me when any of these basement-based time-wasters organize a political party. Or even get an office on 'K' Street.

Supposing that the 25,000 signitures came from the same locality, or all were of some other grouping factor (bought the same bananas, all had the same medical condition, all suffered banana related violence) then the petition could be useful. The policy experts could thus make small actions that adress the particular issue of the petitioners. IE Ban Bananas! They are too Sharp! The solution could be a tax credit for blunter bananas, or warning stickers.


They could have signed up for the class on how to defend themselves against various types of fruit.
 
2012-12-29 01:05:02 PM
People don't read the fine print.
 
2012-12-29 01:12:37 PM

LordPomposity: Byno: My personal fave Link (Pops)

This is the one I'm waiting for a response to, as well.


"The United States government cannot deport citizens for exercising their 1st Amendment right to petition the government."

There you go.
 
2012-12-29 01:22:45 PM

King Something: Serious Black: How, exactly, are they supposed to respond to petitions like letting states secede from the country? Or declaring WBC a hate group (whatever that means under federal law)?

"We settled this issue over 140 years ago, the answer is NO" and "as long as all they do is protests and they don't cross the 'yelling FIRE in a crowded theater' line, their words and actions are protected by the same 1st Amendment that allows you to submit even the dumbest, most asinine petitions imaginable without any fear of reprisal."

That's how.


How about a simple STFU & GBTW? (or GBTYourRascal)
 
2012-12-29 02:03:20 PM
Looks like somebody can't tell the difference between a "petition" and a "ransom note."

/I petition you to kill yourself! do it now!!!11
//no seriously you have to, look at all these signatures!
///...
////hey baby, petition me a blowjob. o yeah.
 
2012-12-29 02:49:36 PM

winterbraid: Looks like somebody can't tell the difference between a "petition" and a "ransom note."

/I petition you to kill yourself! do it now!!!11
//no seriously you have to, look at all these signatures!
///...
////hey baby, petition me a blowjob. o yeah.


"I have a gub."
 
2012-12-29 06:10:50 PM
I still think its funny that a petition to deport people who signed succession petitions is "Amusing" while a petition to deport a single journalist is "Stupid".

Particularly since I'm fairly sure one of those is illegal and the other one isn't, but both are stupid regardless.
 
2012-12-29 06:49:14 PM
I don't like petitions. They are like dropping to your knees with a hat in your hand saying "Your Lordship, I beg of you a penny." Wording it as a demand, and noting that all signing are registered voters might get more notice. If making demands of a business, point out that all signing are consumers who can vote with their wallets.
 
2012-12-29 07:42:59 PM

randomjsa: I still think its funny that a petition to deport people who signed succession petitions is "Amusing" while a petition to deport a single journalist is "Stupid".

Particularly since I'm fairly sure one of those is illegal and the other one isn't, but both are stupid regardless.


I think people who use the word "succession" when they mean "secession" are stupid.
 
2012-12-30 06:46:32 AM

uncoveror: I don't like petitions. They are like dropping to your knees with a hat in your hand saying "Your Lordship, I beg of you a penny." Wording it as a demand, and noting that all signing are registered voters might get more notice. If making demands of a business, point out that all signing are consumers who can vote with their wallets.


We've already got corporations voting with their wallets, and those votes count pretty big.
Petitions give you a way to prove popular support for a measure that isn't already on the platform. It becomes a direct line to the office if you get enough signatories. Either that or you encourage the competition to build their platform on your issue, which demands a response from the incumbent.

...Unfortunately, petitions can be too direct.
As people begin to think the system works, they flood it to file every grievance.

What the white house wanted was a means to justify positions they had already taken, now with the appearance of popular support.
What they didn't count on was that the populace doesn't always agree on things.
 
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