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(AZ Family)   As temperatures dip into the low 40s, people in Phoenix are wondering if they might be allergic to the cold   (azfamily.com) divider line 61
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2012-12-29 12:24:26 AM
As temperatures did into the low 40s...

..so they shall ever do.
 
2012-12-29 12:33:55 AM
I have a friend with this condition. Most recently, she wound up in the ER a year or two ago after walking from 100-degree heat into a very air-conditioned store. She carries epi pens and everything.
 
2012-12-29 10:26:35 AM
I think cold means I have to put on some sort of coat.
 
2012-12-29 11:29:59 AM
TFA now lists the temp at 39º. Global Colding! Everybody panic!
 
2012-12-29 11:31:22 AM

kxs401: I have a friend with this condition. Most recently, she wound up in the ER a year or two ago after walking from 100-degree heat into a very air-conditioned store. She carries epi pens and everything.


I read that as epic penis and everything.
 
2012-12-29 12:18:05 PM
My father grew up in Massachusetts, and I was raised mainly in Florida, California and Texas. He used to laugh at me for being such a candyass in the cold, until he moved to Key West and stayed there 40+ years.

"OMFG!" he wrote one time. "It got all the way down to 55, we're freezing to death!"
 
2012-12-29 12:21:22 PM

Kevin72: I read that as epic penis and everything


It's big, it's black and it's named "The Great Equalizer". Yes it IS epic.
 
2012-12-29 12:23:53 PM
But is it a 'dry cold' or a 'wet cold'?

/Is it wrong to wander about in shorts and t-shirt in 29f degree temperatures...
 
2012-12-29 12:24:28 PM
I had a friend who would get this, she'd get hives when we were out walking and it was below 40...below. And that was -40 C, so there. Those degrees are a lot bigger than those silly F ones.
 
2012-12-29 12:26:58 PM
I have stopped going to Mayo Scottsdale as they are a bunch of overhyped hacks.

I am a Phoenix native that lived in Minnesota for 10 years, and Northern Idaho for 5. I taunt anyone who wears a sweater when it is in the 60s here. Openly. Most of the complaints come from old people that lived elsewhere and now are snowbirds here, and keep their heat at 85*.
 
2012-12-29 12:27:05 PM

sheep snorter: But is it a 'dry cold' or a 'wet cold'?

/Is it wrong to wander about in shorts and t-shirt in 29f degree temperatures...


Spot the Canadian.

If there's no wind, it's not bad.
 
2012-12-29 12:29:35 PM
This is punishment for not allowing Sheriff Joe to arm more kindergarten teachers.
 
2012-12-29 12:30:05 PM
I think I'm allergic to cold. It was 2 degrees yesterday and I got the shivers, my face got red, and my nose got sniffly. I'm going to petition the county keep the outside warm in sensitivity to my allergy.
 
2012-12-29 12:30:50 PM
-40c is -40f. :). People have allergies to everything now. Very weird
 
2012-12-29 12:31:10 PM

Gough: I had a friend who would get this, she'd get hives when we were out walking and it was below 40...below. And that was -40 C, so there.


cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-12-29 12:31:10 PM
It got down to -24 here this morning... or as Coloradans call it, "sweater weather."

/wind blows
//cold, notsomuch
 
2012-12-29 12:32:10 PM

sheep snorter: But is it a 'dry cold' or a 'wet cold'?

/Is it wrong to wander about in shorts and t-shirt in 29f degree temperatures...


Not at all. I see fat people doing this all the time.
 
2012-12-29 12:34:12 PM

Infobahn: I have stopped going to Mayo Scottsdale as they are a bunch of overhyped hacks.

I am a Phoenix native that lived in Minnesota for 10 years, and Northern Idaho for 5. I taunt anyone who wears a sweater when it is in the 60s here. Openly. Most of the complaints come from old people that lived elsewhere and now are snowbirds here, and keep their heat at 85*.


So, no Carry Me Back to Mayo?
 
2012-12-29 12:34:32 PM
They're called goosebumps, you ninnies; they subside. Relax.
 
2012-12-29 12:36:09 PM
I have been allergic to the cold for 15 years. I carry an EpiPen, and have a medical alert bracelet, I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.

The absolute worst part is that know one believes you when you tell them...

/Actual worst part is not being able to hold a cold beer in the summer.
//Have to be careful drinking cold beer and things in general.
 
2012-12-29 12:46:27 PM
Surprising that evolution hasnt killed off the people with this condition by now.

KiwDaWabbit:
This is punishment for not allowing Sheriff Joe to arm more kindergarten teachers.

Lame.
 
2012-12-29 12:50:43 PM

Infobahn: I have stopped going to Mayo Scottsdale as they are a bunch of overhyped hacks..


add overpriced to that list. i need one of those bumper stickers that says "my money goes to the mayo clinic" like those stupid college bumper stickers. horrible customer service too, the nicest people are the physical therapists and the billing department.
 
2012-12-29 12:51:55 PM
Whar can I get me one of those allergies?
 
2012-12-29 01:06:11 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7508579/81559857#c81559857" target="_blank">HelloImNotHome</a>:</b> <i>I have been allergic to the cold for 15 years. I carry an EpiPen, and have a medical alert bracelet, I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.

The absolute worst part is that know one believes you when you tell them...

/Actual worst part is not being able to hold a cold beer in the summer.
//Have to be careful drinking cold beer and things in general.</i>

My previous snark aside, I'm sure it happens, as in your case. (I just think an article like this is more likely to bring hypochondriacs to the E.R. than any real new cases.)

/even a cooling breeze in summer? Damn...
 
2012-12-29 01:07:49 PM
ack, accidentally disabled html. Sorry.
 
2012-12-29 01:10:45 PM
Low 40s in Phoenix is nothing.  It gets really fun when it gets into the 20s, which happens one or two nights in the winter.  It looks like Halloween as everyone covers their cold sensitive plants with sheets and blankets.
 
2012-12-29 01:14:45 PM
As something like 10% of the population in Phoenix will now self-diagnose with urticaria:

Those aren't hives - they're goosebumps.
 
2012-12-29 01:17:57 PM

HelloImNotHome: I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.



I only play a doctor on Fark but I have to ask, these symptoms were diagnosed as an allergy? And not some sort of blood flow or hypothalmus issue?
 
2012-12-29 01:19:12 PM
I blame Global Derping.


/copyright RM 2012
 
2012-12-29 01:22:56 PM
Average male Mac user:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-29 01:23:42 PM
Ahh fark... Wrong tab!
 
2012-12-29 01:24:25 PM

Rich Cream: HelloImNotHome: I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.


I only play a doctor on Fark but I have to ask, these symptoms were diagnosed as an allergy? And not some sort of blood flow or hypothalmus issue?


Myself, I play an economist on Fark.

I suffer from allergies myself and I believe part of what defines an allergy is the body's reaction to certain foods and/or environmental factors by dumping a large amount of histamines. In essence, making an unwelcome and inappropriate response to what should be harmless stimuli.
 
2012-12-29 01:24:47 PM
It's currently 27F and I went out without a jacket today, but 2 days ago it was -20 F. It's all relative.
 
2012-12-29 01:30:12 PM

HelloImNotHome: I have been allergic to the cold for 15 years. I carry an EpiPen, and have a medical alert bracelet, I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.

The absolute worst part is that know one believes you when you tell them...

/Actual worst part is not being able to hold a cold beer in the summer.
//Have to be careful drinking cold beer and things in general.


Whoa. I'm glad I apparently grew out of it.

I used to get those hives as a kid. Between the ages of 11 and 15, I'd swell up, especially in my hands. Waiting for the school bus on a cold and rainy day, and if I had an umbrella, it'd be worse- contact with cold metal- my hands would swell to about double their size. On those days I couldn't do much written work until they warmed up- at least it was an obvious thing.

Messed up. Sorry about that cold beer. Drink stuff made to be drunk 'warm!'
I'm sure you've heard that a hundred times.
 
2012-12-29 01:34:18 PM
Phoenix-ite here. Walked the dog last night in Sweatshirt, shorts and flip flops..

The wife used to work at Lowes in south Phoenix. She would see people with winter parka's once it hit 65..

/ reformed Syracusan.
// will only go back to 'Cuse in the summer. Hate snow.
 
2012-12-29 01:35:11 PM

Avery614: epic


www.inquisitr.com
 
2012-12-29 01:36:06 PM

CptnSpldng: I suffer from allergies myself and I believe part of what defines an allergy is the body's reaction to certain foods and/or environmental factors by dumping a large amount of histamines. In essence, making an unwelcome and inappropriate response to what should be harmless stimuli.



Makes sense.

/and that's why you play the economist
 
2012-12-29 01:37:44 PM
Cold uticaria. Got it, and doesn't need to be exceptionally cold. The chill caused by sweat evaporating can raise welts. Depending on the severity it could be fatal causing the body to react to plunging into cold water.

/no polar bear swims
 
2012-12-29 02:07:55 PM

HelloImNotHome: I have been allergic to the cold for 15 years. I carry an EpiPen, and have a medical alert bracelet, I get disabled parking in the winter, as it starts giving me problems when the temp reaches 50F. I also have reactions in warmer weather if I sweat and there is a breeze from the evaporation on my skin.

The absolute worst part is that know one believes you when you tell them...

/Actual worst part is not being able to hold a cold beer in the summer.
//Have to be careful drinking cold beer and things in general.


I also have this. I was diagnosed when I was 6 years old (I'm 33 now) with the ice cube test done by a pediatric allergist. The reaction to cold and/or cool and damp has gotten better over time, but I've found the secondary symptoms haven't subsided - fatigue in the colder weather and a general low-level flu-like sensation for an extended period of time. Also if we have a cold snap in the winter it tends to flare up.

The bad part about this is I'm Canadian - I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, born and raised. I would move somewhere warmer, but most of my friends and family are here, and I have a decent job. As a kid my allergist said if I didn't respond to antihistamines we would have to move somewhere with a consistently warm climate, such as Hawaii, Georgia or Alabama.

In my case in addition to the hives (urticaria) I also get some swelling (angioedema) in my extremities, which could potentially happen in my throat and choke me. It's never happened or come close to happening, so it's not a huge concern.

Sometimes I also have problems with cold cans and/or slushie-type drinks and McFlurrie/Blizzard-type deserts. Them's the hazards.
 
2012-12-29 02:12:02 PM
My mom wa diagnosed with cold uticaria almost 30 years ago. She had to carry epi pens, but my dad was able to get transferred to Miami due to her medical condition. I've always wondered if her sensitivity to the cold had anything to do with her being from Thailand, where the weather was always tropical
 
2012-12-29 02:23:11 PM

See My Az Go: My mom wa diagnosed with cold uticaria almost 30 years ago. She had to carry epi pens, but my dad was able to get transferred to Miami due to her medical condition. I've always wondered if her sensitivity to the cold had anything to do with her being from Thailand, where the weather was always tropical


I am not sure on that but my family has been living in Maine as far back as the 1700's.

Doctor thinks I should have other family members who have cold urticaria as well. (Haven't found them yet)
 
2012-12-29 02:31:06 PM
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At least they don't have to deal with frozen fog. It's hard to get around in this shiat.
 
2012-12-29 02:40:49 PM
dear arizonans,

you aren't allergic.  that is what cold feels like.
 
2012-12-29 03:17:32 PM

phlegmmo: Gough: I had a friend who would get this, she'd get hives when we were out walking and it was below 40...below. And that was -40 C, so there.

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To you and gorgon38, thanks for biting....
 
2012-12-29 03:19:12 PM

SlothB77: dear arizonans,

you aren't allergic.  that is what cold feels like.


While I agree with 99% of your premise, I think I now know there are some real medical issues with temperature that I hadn't understood before.

Mayo Clinic still sucks, though.
 
2012-12-29 03:31:00 PM
Yup, got cold urticaria too. Much better now than when I was a kid, though - just got back from cross-country skiing in 12F weather. Little itchy, but not bad and totally worth it. Find it gets worse when water's involved - rafting in freakin cold water brings it on much more than cold air.
 
2012-12-29 03:36:41 PM

Gough: phlegmmo: Gough: I had a friend who would get this, she'd get hives when we were out walking and it was below 40...below. And that was -40 C, so there.

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To you and gorgon38, thanks for biting....


images.sodahead.com
 
2012-12-29 03:55:09 PM
It was in the low 40s here today as well. Probably the first time Anchorage and Phoenix have ever had something in common.

/freaking heat wave.
 
2012-12-29 04:05:14 PM

SlothB77: dear arizonans,

you aren't allergic.  that is what cold feels like.


Phoenicians, not Arizonans.

Much of the rest of the state knows perfectly well what cold feels like.
 
2012-12-29 04:42:21 PM
I have weird allergies, but being allergic to cold sounds way worse than any stupid shiat I have to avoid.
 
2012-12-29 06:05:33 PM
My blood pressure gets crazy high when I'm cold.
 
2012-12-29 06:21:01 PM

Infobahn: I have stopped going to Mayo Scottsdale as they are a bunch of overhyped hacks.

I am a Phoenix native that lived in Minnesota for 10 years, and Northern Idaho for 5. I taunt anyone who wears a sweater when it is in the 60s here. Openly. Most of the complaints come from old people that lived elsewhere and now are snowbirds here, and keep their heat at 85*.


Yeah, I grew up in Utah and Idaho, and Az was a culture shock... That said, once I moved up to Flag, I acclimated perfectly, same with when we vacated that farking blast oven and I moved back to Utah.

Of course, the temperature gets below 40 all of the time in Central and Southern Az, there's even snow in the desert every winter at least once(usually at like 2 am for 10 minutes, although in '90, I watched it snow from like 3 in the afternoon until I went to bed at 3 am or so.)

So no, Az people can't handle the cold that we'll, but I know plenty of people who would keel over dead at 117 degrees, too.
 
2012-12-29 07:12:43 PM
Once upon a time people with this kind of thing would just drop dead as children. We are a weak species!

But since I'm one of those people who would probably be dead without great medical care, I guess this is ok. :)
 
2012-12-29 07:21:07 PM

Mikey1969: So no, Az people can't handle the cold that we'll, but I know plenty of people who would keel over dead at 117 degrees, too.


I'm one of those crazy people who will work in the yard mid-afternoon with temps in the low 110s. You get acclimated to it... you also learn to dress in long-sleeve loose fitting white shirts, wide brim hats and to work slowly.

What people from outside the area may not realize about the desert is that there is no temperature moderator, save for the urban heat bubble of downtown Phoenix. So in the winter, you can get wild swings of 40+ degrees between day and night. On the fringes of the metro area, it can occasionally get down to the mid-20s at night. A little farther out and it gets down to the low-20s. Those same cold fronts can bring near- or sub-zero temps to the high country (Phoenix is around 1000-1300ft in altitude, while Flagstaff is around 7000ft and Prescott is around 5200ft).

If you want cold wussies, look at San Diego and Miami. They're both zone 10b (35-40F min sustained winter temp) on the USDA plant hardiness map.
 
2012-12-29 11:19:23 PM
FTFA: With cold urticaria, exposure to cold temperatures causes redness, itching, swelling and hives on the skin that has been in contact with the cold. As much as possible, people with the allergy should try their best to avoid exposure to cold.

That's it. I'm going back to Florida. At least down there I only had to deal with mold and crotch rot.
 
2012-12-30 02:44:49 AM
I had this condition. It cropped up when I was nine or ten years old and went away on its own within a year or so. When the class went out for recess, I'd get hives. Fortunately, we lived in coastal California at the time, not in Vermont (where we'd lived for five years previously).
 
2012-12-30 10:52:30 AM
Fortunately we only have to deal with cold weather for a few weeks of the year here. I think most snow birds and non-native Phoenicians have lived in shiatty cold ass weather in the past...but temperature is all relative. I no longer have to deal with sub zero wind chill and commuting through ice banks to get to a public bus, so 40 degree weather is going to be supremely unpleasant (in Chicago this time of year, 40 degrees is shorts weather). Yay, 70 degrees and above is our norm! Even 60 degrees IS cold winter weather here.

I'm glad so many people are finding the link educational...but the takeaway message should be that our weather is better than yours.

/sorry FL, but mold, mosquitos and perpetually wet hair and bathtowels suck
 
2012-12-30 11:31:12 AM
(looks out window at thermometer)

-4f

/motherf
 
2012-12-30 04:43:40 PM

elysive: Fortunately we only have to deal with cold weather for a few weeks of the year here. I think most snow birds and non-native Phoenicians have lived in shiatty cold ass weather in the past...but temperature is all relative. I no longer have to deal with sub zero wind chill and commuting through ice banks to get to a public bus, so 40 degree weather is going to be supremely unpleasant (in Chicago this time of year, 40 degrees is shorts weather). Yay, 70 degrees and above is our norm! Even 60 degrees IS cold winter weather here.

I'm glad so many people are finding the link educational...but the takeaway message should be that our weather is better than yours.

/sorry FL, but mold, mosquitos and perpetually wet hair and bathtowels suck


The first winter I lived here, I wore shorts and t-shirts all the time. Now, in year eight, I have to wear my leather jacket in the morning when I leave for work. It's freaking cold at 6:30 am. My body got acclimated to warm weather very quickly. The summers no longer bother me, either.
 
2012-12-31 12:47:03 AM

StrandedInAZ: The first winter I lived here, I wore shorts and t-shirts all the time. Now, in year eight, I have to wear my leather jacket in the morning when I leave for work. It's freaking cold at 6:30 am. My body got acclimated to warm weather very quickly. The summers no longer bother me, either.


I respect that people acclimate to the climate here, and your blood it "thinner" now, I just hate when people make it seem like 50 degrees is frigid. People should know what is really cold and stop biatching about what isn't really an issue in Arizona.
 
2012-12-31 11:21:45 AM
None of the people in this thread should ever live in Missouri. There's a state that freezes in the winter and bakes in the summer, with a whole lot of humidity (when it's not a drought, that is). In July there were nine straight days of 100+ degrees and now we're edging on down towards the teens and it's snowing today. Not really the worst possible extremes in either case, but it's the switch between them is the killer.

/best part is when it happens in a week
//dec 1-8 - high of 75 on 12/3/12, low of 36 on 12/5/12 - 40 degree swing in 2 days.
 
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