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2012-12-29 01:30:41 PM  

Infobahn: Damn Packer Fans.


Right across from the twin cities, so it's just as likely Vikings fans.
 
2012-12-29 01:33:25 PM  
ArkAngel:

Sounds like he probably got a 7-10 day suspension, beyond which requires a hearing before the school board. Expulsion is a lot of work and is more trouble than it's worth for anything other than an offense for which it's required (binging a weapon to school).

And criminal charges? He might benefit from good public spanking but criminal charges are ridiculous. "A little macrame noose...and some kind of KKK symbol" don't constitute a credible threat: it was clearly a joke -- not funny and bad taste but a joke nevertheless. Over-reactions to things like this only make the "victims" look pathetic and vindictive.

I'm torn here between deploring racism and sticking up for "thought crime": however bad the joke or offensive the speech we must retain the right to say things other people might not want to hear.

I'm also wondering why not having to go to school counts as punishment. Do "potential sex partners" line up in front of this kid's locker waiting to be chosen as the evening's dessert? Does he get a nice crisp Benjamin for every day he shows up? What is he being deprived of?

This case is stupid and everyone involved should feel bad.
 
2012-12-29 01:35:22 PM  
"They were in an art class, and a little macrame noose was made, and some kind of KKK symbol," Russell said Friday. "These two small objects were placed before this individual. The young man said it was done as a joke."

Conservative humour strikes again.
 
2012-12-29 01:37:25 PM  

VictoryCabal: Is this the thread where we pretend that a noose is a completely neutral symbol with absolutely no meaning, and that hundreds of years of American history of lynchings ignored (or abetted) by state police and governments never happened? Good, that sounds refreshing.


i47.tinypic.com

There, are you happy now?
 
2012-12-29 01:38:41 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: The KKK and associated noose are symbols of the Democrat Party

Never forget that. Anti-slavey activists formed the Republican Party, fought to end slavery - an institution the Democrat Party fought to preserve - and the KKK was formed by Democrats intent upon preventing Washington from having any influence in the now military occupied South. The KKK killed government officials, blacks associated with the newly forming governments, terrorized, murdered and burned down the buildings associated with Republicans.

The kid is just acting out a century and a half long tradition of Democrat political theology.


Aww, I've missed the Fark trolls while I was on vacation. Good to be back; thanks for the laugh!
 
2012-12-29 01:39:19 PM  

Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: bulldg4life: The young man said it was done as a joke.

Hilarious.

Also, your parents are goddamn idiots.

Why are we assuming the parents are the source of the problem? Is it possible that the lad's racism came about from having to deal with bullies, or negatively imparted expiriences from said races?

My wife's how do you do to African Americans was two girls who- for no particular reason-- began verbally assaulting her in the women's clothing section of Walmart. Not sure whether it was because she was asian or dressed particularly nicely that day, but there was no reason for that behavior. They started getting a bit too close until I came up from behind them and barked, "Back off!" at the top of my lungs (works good on strays, bullies).

She also works with other ethnic groups at a long term care center and and has had problems when threatened by same said group after she had to locate the late night kitchen staff- outside smoking-- to request that they properly stock the nutritional drinks and prepare evening snacks for the patient. She claims she was call some pretty bad names and threatened if she told her supervisors about them not being in the facility during work hours or failing to provide the late nigt snacks. Had her car keyed shortly after.

Needless to say, due to some pretty negative expiriences, she's a little leary of them. To her credit, our kids have several friends of various ethnicities and all are welcome in our home.

Nothing personal, but both you and your wife seem like very stupid-- if well-meaning-- people.


OK- I'll feed the troll. How does my wife being bullied while shopping in a Walmart, or trying to do her job make her, or myself, stupid?

Should I have just let the two girls escalate the abuse and then chastise my wife for wanting to shop at Walmart. Maybe you would prefer that I had viewed my wife's being bullied as being a positive cultural expirience?

Sorry- my wife has had one too many expiriences not to hold a less than positive attitude as of late. You rerpresent bad, you get viewed that way. Maybe with time, she'll have a more meaningful, positive cultural expirience that will wipe away the fear and bewilderment of being bullied by strangers, but it doesn't appear to be happening any time soon.

Here's some farking flowers in appreciation for keying my car the other day when I requested that you do your job!
 
2012-12-29 01:41:13 PM  

SubBass49: Funny thing about this...

I had a hunch that maybe this town (Baldwin) had been a "sundown town" at some point, so I searched the sundown town database. While Baldwin wasn't mentioned, it didn't surprise me that much to see that it was completely surrounded by probable sundown towns.

New Richmond (just north-west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

River Falls (just south-west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Menomonie (just east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Hudson (just west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Barron (just north-east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Eau Claire (just east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data and documented racial exclusion/mistreatment of Black baseball players on a local team

So very interesting to me.

BTW...if you haven't read this book yet, pick it up ASAP. A real eye-opener.

[images.betterworldbooks.com image 265x400]


Shiat...forgot to add this: SEARCH FOR SUNDOWN TOWNS IN THE US (MAP)

You'd be surprised to see just how common they are/were...even in non-Southern states.
 
2012-12-29 01:50:34 PM  
Meh, even babies are "racist." They will frown at a face of another race and smile at a face of their own race. I don't understand why people are so shocked by this behavior.
 
2012-12-29 02:02:43 PM  

Silly Jesus: Meh, even babies are "racist." They will frown at a face of another race and smile at a face of their own race. I don't understand why people are so shocked by this behavior.


You should try acting like an adult, racist.
 
2012-12-29 02:03:53 PM  
No the punishment does not fit the crime, the student should have been expelled and faced criminal charges. suspension would be sufficient if the kid was 6th grade or younger and had a lesser understanding of what the items meant.
 
2012-12-29 02:03:59 PM  
It's really hilarious how the Libtards think that suppressing the "N-Word", and coming down like a ton of bricks on any slights made by Whitey, while bending over backwards to ignore/minimize minority misbehavior/racism is going to lead to racial harmony. It's more likely to lead to all out race war. The cynicism and resentment is growing every day, across ALL economic classes the longer this PC idiocy continues. Minorities are poorly served by the special treatment. Even their actual accomplishments are treated with less respect, because it's just assumed they're Affirmative Action Babies. Like The Obamessiah. The Ultimate Affirmative Action hire.
 
2012-12-29 02:05:08 PM  

mark12A: It's really hilarious how the Libtards think that suppressing the "N-Word", and coming down like a ton of bricks on any slights made by Whitey, while bending over backwards to ignore/minimize minority misbehavior/racism is going to lead to racial harmony. It's more likely to lead to all out race war. The cynicism and resentment is growing every day, across ALL economic classes the longer this PC idiocy continues. Minorities are poorly served by the special treatment. Even their actual accomplishments are treated with less respect, because it's just assumed they're Affirmative Action Babies. Like The Obamessiah. The Ultimate Affirmative Action hire.


Only by racists like you.
 
2012-12-29 02:08:03 PM  

Silly Jesus: Meh, even babies are "racist." They will frown at a face of another race and smile at a face of their own race. I don't understand why people are so shocked by this behavior.


I don't understand why people are so shocked when I poop myself and spit up on their shirts, either.
 
2012-12-29 02:09:55 PM  
clowncar on fire:

Has anyone brought up the possibility that this girl was an obnoxious, pain in the ass who just happened to be black?

No.  You get to be the only one saying the girl brought a lynching, KKK death-threaty "joke" on herself by being "annoying".  A winner is you, and by winner, I mean jackass.
 
2012-12-29 02:10:42 PM  
Here are my thoughts, take them for what they are worth which may be nothing.
1) He is a teen. While this is terribly offensive and I find it morally offensive, teens do really stupid offensive things. If I was permanently held responsible for all the stupid shiat I did when a I was a teenager I would be a drain on society and honestly considered a terrorist (who didn't play with black powder a little) instead of being a productive law abiding tax paying member of it. There is a reason you are not an adult in the eyes of he law until you are 18. It seems like society forgets all the stupid shiat they did a kids and wants to condemn the next generation. We were not angels.
2) It seems that with each passing generation the meaning and affects of racism dwindles. The kids of today do not recall the atrocity's and injustices of generations ago. Memories fade, injustices are forgotten. The deep emotional impact that the older generations may feel towards these actions are felt a fraction as much by the current generation if at all. There are many other Think of your aging grandmother and they way they horde money and or food for the next "Great depression". I hear the stories but I don't fully realize the impact.
3) Everyones a little bit raciest.
 
2012-12-29 02:11:11 PM  

mark12A: It's really hilarious how the Libtards think that suppressing the "N-Word", and coming down like a ton of bricks on any slights made by Whitey, while bending over backwards to ignore/minimize minority misbehavior/racism is going to lead to racial harmony. It's more likely to lead to all out race war. The cynicism and resentment is growing every day, across ALL economic classes the longer this PC idiocy continues. Minorities are poorly served by the special treatment. Even their actual accomplishments are treated with less respect, because it's just assumed they're Affirmative Action Babies. Like The Obamessiah. The Ultimate Affirmative Action hire.


I live with my mom

The derp and trolling in this thread are achieving biblical proportions.
 
2012-12-29 02:15:11 PM  

clowncar on fire: Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: bulldg4life: The young man said it was done as a joke.

Hilarious.

My wife's how do you do to African Americans was two girls who- for no particular reason-- began verbally assaulting her in the women's clothing section of Walmart. Not sure whether it was because she was asian or dressed particularly nicely that day, but there was no reason for that behavior. They started getting a bit too close until I came up from behind them and barked, "Back off!" at the top of my lungs (works good on strays, bullies).

She also works with other ethnic groups at a long term care center and and has had problems when threatened by same said group after she had to locate the late night kitchen staff- outside smoking-- to request that they properly stock the nutritional drinks and prepare evening snacks for the patient. She claims she was call some pretty bad names and threatened if she told her supervisors about them not being in the facility during work hours or failing to provide the late nigt snacks. Had her car keyed shortly after.

Needless to say, due to some pretty negative expiriences, she's a little leary of them. To her credit, our kids have several friends of various ethnicities and all are welcome in our home.

Nothing personal, but both you and your wife seem like very stupid-- if well-meaning-- people.

OK- I'll feed the troll. How does my wife being bullied while shopping in a Walmart, or trying to do her job make her, or myself, stupid?


Your wife sounds stupid because she has had a couple of negative experiences with specific black people (who she encountered for the very first time as a grown-ass woman, apparently,) and is now "leery" of "them" as a group. You sound stupid because you believe her leeriness is "needless to say" in this situation (to which those of us who do not categorically fear racial groups after a run-in with two people can attest.)

I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.
 
2012-12-29 02:15:28 PM  

dethmagnetic: ArkAngel: dethmagnetic: ArkAngel: Sounds like he probably got a 7-10 day suspension, beyond which requires a hearing before the school board. Expulsion is a lot of work and is more trouble than it's worth for anything other than an offense for which it's required (binging a weapon to school).

Personally I'd consider racially motivated death threats to be sufficient grounds for expulsion. I guess that's just me, though.

Doesn't seem to be a death threat any more than the one kid's drawings were a bomb threat. Just some stupid thing he did without thinking.

Ok, maybe death threat is too strong (although you could argue that the noose qualifies). At the very least, the kid needs some serious counseling to learn that this behavior is not acceptable, ever.


Most states require an explicit threat for an action to ride to a criminal level. For instance, him making an actual noose and saying "I'm going to hang you with this," would be criminal. Making a noose and showing it to somebody, no.

The school suspended the boy and contacted the police. If the police don't feel this rises to the criminal level, I fail to see what else the school should do.
 
2012-12-29 02:15:34 PM  

someonelse: Silly Jesus: Meh, even babies are "racist." They will frown at a face of another race and smile at a face of their own race. I don't understand why people are so shocked by this behavior.

I don't understand why people are so shocked when I poop myself and spit up on their shirts, either.


Lol 8/10
 
2012-12-29 02:17:01 PM  

Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: bulldg4life: The young man said it was done as a joke.

Hilarious.

My wife's how do you do to African Americans was two girls who- for no particular reason-- began verbally assaulting her in the women's clothing section of Walmart. Not sure whether it was because she was asian or dressed particularly nicely that day, but there was no reason for that behavior. They started getting a bit too close until I came up from behind them and barked, "Back off!" at the top of my lungs (works good on strays, bullies).

She also works with other ethnic groups at a long term care center and and has had problems when threatened by same said group after she had to locate the late night kitchen staff- outside smoking-- to request that they properly stock the nutritional drinks and prepare evening snacks for the patient. She claims she was call some pretty bad names and threatened if she told her supervisors about them not being in the facility during work hours or failing to provide the late nigt snacks. Had her car keyed shortly after.

Needless to say, due to some pretty negative expiriences, she's a little leary of them. To her credit, our kids have several friends of various ethnicities and all are welcome in our home.

Nothing personal, but both you and your wife seem like very stupid-- if well-meaning-- people.

OK- I'll feed the troll. How does my wife being bullied while shopping in a Walmart, or trying to do her job make her, or myself, stupid?

Your wife sounds stupid because she has had a couple of negative experiences with specific black people (who she encountered for the very first time as a grown-ass woman, apparently,) and is now "leery" of "them" as a group. You sound stupid because you believe her leeriness is "needless to say" in this situation (to which those of us who do not categorically fear racial groups after a run-in with two people can attest.)

I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to que ...


Hell, even Jesse Farking Jackson said he'd be relieved if he was walking down the street at night and turned to see someone following him and found out that it was a white guy.

Statistics, how do they work?
 
2012-12-29 02:20:36 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: The KKK and associated noose are symbols of the Democrat Party

Never forget that. Anti-slavey activists formed the Republican Party, fought to end slavery - an institution the Democrat Party fought to preserve - and the KKK was formed by Democrats intent upon preventing Washington from having any influence in the now military occupied South. The KKK killed government officials, blacks associated with the newly forming governments, terrorized, murdered and burned down the buildings associated with Republicans.

The kid is just acting out a century and a half long tradition of Democrat political theology.


I live with my mom

The term liberal also used top mean little government and free market, are you going to talk me that Bush and Reagan were liberals?
 
2012-12-29 02:23:38 PM  
Yeah, let's ruin that kids life for doing something stupid as a 15 year old! That's the ticket!
 
2012-12-29 02:24:59 PM  
Before I read the article I was expecting a real noose and a KKK hood. I could see expulsion for that.

But something he threw together in art class? Suspension is enough.
 
2012-12-29 02:25:05 PM  
I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...
 
2012-12-29 02:26:39 PM  

mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...


But you might hurt the other Cheetah's feeeeeelings.
 
2012-12-29 02:30:20 PM  

VictoryCabal: Is this the thread where we pretend that a noose is a completely neutral symbol with absolutely no meaning, and that hundreds of years of American history of lynchings ignored (or abetted) by state police and governments never happened? Good, that sounds refreshing.


I think it is the thread where we pretend that a "little macrame noose" and a KKK symbol are an actual death threat.
 
2012-12-29 02:33:38 PM  

Silly Jesus: mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...

But you might hurt the other Cheetah's feeeeeelings.


And maybe just maybe the cheetah will change its spots in a generation or two. One can always hope.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:47 PM  

Vectron: Silly Jesus: mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...

But you might hurt the other Cheetah's feeeeeelings.

And maybe just maybe the cheetah will change its spots in a generation or two. One can always hope.


Then it would be a Zebra.
 
2012-12-29 02:36:40 PM  
...
 
2012-12-29 02:36:51 PM  

mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...


*sigh*

revolution-computing.typepad.com
 
2012-12-29 02:37:10 PM  

mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...


I would say you fail as a human being if you can't move beyond (or at least don't try to) basic memory and reasoning skills that would lead you to lump all people of the same race together.
 
2012-12-29 02:39:40 PM  
LOL, this thread is the perfect example of how ass-backwards race discussion can be.

Let's see:

You have the overreacting internet tough guys who are using this excuse to post their psychotic revenge fetishes.
You have the partisan idiots trying to inject their own politics into this and tries to make this a conservative/liberal things.
You have the professional victims making vague generalizations about racism/reverse racism and how white people are always evil/victims.
And last of all, you have your chicken littles who dismiss every bit of discussion about race relations as "racist" thinking that burying their heads in the sand will absolve them of the original sin.

/What really matters of course is that I get to feel superior to all of the above.
 
2012-12-29 02:43:21 PM  

SubBass49: Funny thing about this...

I had a hunch that maybe this town (Baldwin) had been a "sundown town" at some point, so I searched the sundown town database. While Baldwin wasn't mentioned, it didn't surprise me that much to see that it was completely surrounded by probable sundown towns.

New Richmond (just north-west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

River Falls (just south-west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Menomonie (just east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Hudson (just west of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Barron (just north-east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data

Eau Claire (just east of Baldwin): Possible Sundown Town based on historical census data and documented racial exclusion/mistreatment of Black baseball players on a local team

So very interesting to me.

BTW...if you haven't read this book yet, pick it up ASAP. A real eye-opener.

[images.betterworldbooks.com image 265x400]


Loewen will bring tears to your eyes. It is amazing to read him to kids and watch them try to process.

/Martinsville sucked then and sucks now.
//SRSLY, fark those people
 
2012-12-29 02:46:09 PM  

Cyno01: Outside of Milwaukee (city proper, not county), where whites are actually a minority, Wisconsin is soooooooo white. There are tons of communities where a kid could make it to 18 without ever seeing a black person besides on TV. Not to excuse what this little shiat did, and there are some pockets of actual white supremacists and things in southern Wisconsin, and this asshole who built a Hitler memorial... but yeah. Idk what my point is.


so he never saw a movie, show or book which had racism in it?
never was taught any history: slavery, civil rights movement/MLK, apartheid??

so yah, I dont care where you live in the US, but if you are THAT ignorant at that age ...

"was making a joke"
This is the excuse which is used by bullies. It is how they get away with being bullies.
TADA - Expel him. His parent can deal with the POS which they have raised.
 
2012-12-29 02:48:27 PM  

dethmagnetic: ArkAngel: Sounds like he probably got a 7-10 day suspension, beyond which requires a hearing before the school board. Expulsion is a lot of work and is more trouble than it's worth for anything other than an offense for which it's required (binging a weapon to school).

Personally I'd consider racially motivated death threats to be sufficient grounds for expulsion. I guess that's just me, though.


Well black kids do that all the time and no action is taken, until EQUAL protection under the law happens stufu

If a word is bad for a white person to say then no one can say it.
 
2012-12-29 02:56:10 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: dethmagnetic: ArkAngel: Sounds like he probably got a 7-10 day suspension, beyond which requires a hearing before the school board. Expulsion is a lot of work and is more trouble than it's worth for anything other than an offense for which it's required (binging a weapon to school).

Personally I'd consider racially motivated death threats to be sufficient grounds for expulsion. I guess that's just me, though.

Well black kids do that all the time and no action is taken, until EQUAL protection under the law happens stufu

If a word is bad for a white person to say then no one can say it.


Oh, hey, look guys! It's one of those rare persecuted White people! I've heard of them, just never met one in real life.
 
2012-12-29 02:58:52 PM  

namatad: Cyno01: Outside of Milwaukee (city proper, not county), where whites are actually a minority, Wisconsin is soooooooo white. There are tons of communities where a kid could make it to 18 without ever seeing a black person besides on TV. Not to excuse what this little shiat did, and there are some pockets of actual white supremacists and things in southern Wisconsin, and this asshole who built a Hitler memorial... but yeah. Idk what my point is.

so he never saw a movie, show or book which had racism in it?
never was taught any history: slavery, civil rights movement/MLK, apartheid??

so yah, I dont care where you live in the US, but if you are THAT ignorant at that age ...

"was making a joke"
This is the excuse which is used by bullies. It is how they get away with being bullies.
TADA - Expel him. His parent can deal with the POS which they have raised.


You say that like the media doesn't try to fan fears about minorities all the time.

The kid made an ignorant mistake, punish him and educate him so he knows better. Preventing him from getting any more education will only make him more ignorant and bigoted.

Get that stick out of your ass and accept that vengeance and punishment is as helpful as having the biggest prison population in the world.
 
2012-12-29 03:00:21 PM  

mark12A: I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to question the reasoning of anyone who extrapolates from that experience and lives their life in suspicion of people with a particular skin color.

polyhazard, you fail as a human being. Evolution gave us basic memory and reasoning skills so we could learn from experiences in order to maximize our survival chances. If you pet the Cheetah and get bitten, it doesn't bode well for your survival that you don't learn to avoid Cheetahs afterwards...


So now you know why some black people aren't fond of white racists. Like you.
 
2012-12-29 03:00:54 PM  

Coco LaFemme: 100% chance this little defective got his ideas and notions from his parents. Racism and bigotry is learned behavior. First you expel his ass and arrest him for making terroristic threats. Then you beat the hell out of his parents, preferably with a mace.


Not quite 100%. Back in the eighties when the hippies' kids started becoming teenagers, they faced a dilemma: What can you do to offend and morally outrage parents who are totally cool with sex, drugs, rock and roll, interracial dating, etc? Answer: Become a skinhead and commit hate crimes.
 
2012-12-29 03:07:46 PM  

namatad: Carotid: Being raised like that is punishment enough.

/not really
//just partly enough.

Kill him, kill the parents, foster care the rest of the siblings.
Do this enough times and at least the bigots will go back to HIDING their bullshiat.

/on the plus side, I like that the bigots have come out of the woodwork. Makes it much easier to shun them and vote against them.


Because nothing promotes the development of a civilized and forward-thinking society like slaughtering the family of a stupid kid that did a stupid, ignorant, but ultimately harmless thing. Right?
 
2012-12-29 03:10:35 PM  

Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: Polyhazard: clowncar on fire: bulldg4life: The young man said it was done as a joke.

Hilarious.

My wife's how do you do to African Americans was two girls who- for no particular reason-- began verbally assaulting her in the women's clothing section of Walmart. Not sure whether it was because she was asian or dressed particularly nicely that day, but there was no reason for that behavior. They started getting a bit too close until I came up from behind them and barked, "Back off!" at the top of my lungs (works good on strays, bullies).

She also works with other ethnic groups at a long term care center and and has had problems when threatened by same said group after she had to locate the late night kitchen staff- outside smoking-- to request that they properly stock the nutritional drinks and prepare evening snacks for the patient. She claims she was call some pretty bad names and threatened if she told her supervisors about them not being in the facility during work hours or failing to provide the late nigt snacks. Had her car keyed shortly after.

Needless to say, due to some pretty negative expiriences, she's a little leary of them. To her credit, our kids have several friends of various ethnicities and all are welcome in our home.

Nothing personal, but both you and your wife seem like very stupid-- if well-meaning-- people.

OK- I'll feed the troll. How does my wife being bullied while shopping in a Walmart, or trying to do her job make her, or myself, stupid?

Your wife sounds stupid because she has had a couple of negative experiences with specific black people (who she encountered for the very first time as a grown-ass woman, apparently,) and is now "leery" of "them" as a group. You sound stupid because you believe her leeriness is "needless to say" in this situation (to which those of us who do not categorically fear racial groups after a run-in with two people can attest.)

I'm sorry she was bullied by strangers, but I have to que ...


So her experiences with black people have been poor and she's supposed to view anyone with that common trait differently? That's ridiculous, you can only form opinions on things you've experienced, I'm sure if she met nice black people she'd feel different, but that hasn't happened yet.
 
2012-12-29 03:20:01 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: dethmagnetic: ArkAngel: Sounds like he probably got a 7-10 day suspension, beyond which requires a hearing before the school board. Expulsion is a lot of work and is more trouble than it's worth for anything other than an offense for which it's required (binging a weapon to school).

Personally I'd consider racially motivated death threats to be sufficient grounds for expulsion. I guess that's just me, though.

Well black kids do that all the time and no action is taken, until EQUAL protection under the law happens stufu

If a word is bad for a white person to say then no one can say it.


Why? My sister and I jokingly call each other every derogatory female term you can think of. A little while ago I told her to shut her whore mouth about "the fondue incident." Human social interactions require marginally more judgment than possessed by the average cocker spaniel. Deal with it.
 
2012-12-29 03:21:56 PM  

robhidalgo: namatad: Carotid: Being raised like that is punishment enough.

/not really
//just partly enough.

Kill him, kill the parents, foster care the rest of the siblings.
Do this enough times and at least the bigots will go back to HIDING their bullshiat.

/on the plus side, I like that the bigots have come out of the woodwork. Makes it much easier to shun them and vote against them.

Because nothing promotes the development of a civilized and forward-thinking society like slaughtering the family of a stupid kid that did a stupid, ignorant, but ultimately harmless thing. Right?


Honestly, people who think up elaborate plans for mass violence in their spare time is more of a threat to society than a teenager who is ignorant of history and sensitivity. One of them cracks dumb jokes, the other might snap one day and take out an office building.
 
2012-12-29 03:22:33 PM  

Coco LaFemme: 100% chance this little defective got his ideas and notions from his parents.


Schools no longer teach about the KKK and lynchings?
 
2012-12-29 03:24:22 PM  

Girion47: That's ridiculous, you can only form opinions on things you've experienced


Humans developed language and imagery and writing to be able to express things others have experienced. Keep up.
 
2012-12-29 03:25:22 PM  

someonelse: "the fondue incident."


Go on....
 
2012-12-29 03:25:48 PM  

Girion47: So her experiences with black people have been poor and she's supposed to view anyone with that common trait differently? That's ridiculous, you can only form opinions on things you've experienced,


Maybe you can't, but some of us a) Allow other information besides personal experience to enter our worldview, because our experiences are incredibly limited (and it sounds like even more limited than most in this case,) and b) don't attribute behavior to one particular observable characteristic and assume all others who share that characteristic must share that behavior.

I was bit by an ill-trained dog as a child, but I didn't stop petting cats or sitting in chairs because they also have 4 legs. That's the kind of leap you are making here. And it's not what thinking people do.

I'm sure if she met nice black people she'd feel different, but that hasn't happened yet.

And it probably won't, because she already has contempt and suspicion for them, and who the fark wants to waste their time being nice to people who irrationally dislike you?
 
2012-12-29 03:28:41 PM  

Polyhazard: And it probably won't, because she already has contempt and suspicion for them, and who the fark wants to waste their time being nice to people who irrationally dislike you?


Nelson Mandela?
 
2012-12-29 03:33:24 PM  

JerkStore: asp


That's neat and everything, but trying to prove... Whatever you're trying to prove by comparing two entirely separate school districts in two entirely separate states is a stretch.
 
2012-12-29 03:34:21 PM  

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!:

It's bothers me that no one mentions all the revenge beating in the name of trayvon and just skips to the whites kids deserved it. Black people have done worn out the race cards. Everyone knows it but them.



Did the black girl in this story play the race card, in your opinion?
 
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