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(Time)   Nine mistakes you're making on LinkedIn. Conspicuously absent from the list: being on LinkedIn in the first place   (business.time.com) divider line 32
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2012-12-29 03:56:51 AM
5 votes:
That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...
2012-12-29 03:46:51 AM
4 votes:
LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.
2012-12-29 01:00:38 AM
4 votes:
I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.
2012-12-29 04:14:13 AM
3 votes:
The biggest problem with Linkedin is that it won't help you score weed off your co-worker after work.
2012-12-29 04:06:43 PM
2 votes:
I created a profile like 8 years ago, have not touched it since. In those 8 years I have only recieved friend requests or whatever they are called from people who just suck at their job. The only people in my profession that use Linkedin that I know of are the idiots who somehow got hired in the first place.

//software engineer
2012-12-29 10:29:06 AM
2 votes:

Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...


Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.
2012-12-29 08:29:31 AM
2 votes:
I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.
2012-12-29 07:58:40 AM
2 votes:
It's as valuable as you make it - I've been on LI since it's first year. (my member # is in the 200,000 range, current size is around 20,000,000). I'm not actively 'looking', but I've gotten at least 4 legitimate interview requests in the last month. My 1st level network is 'only' in the 600 or so range...but I know every one of those people. I don't do 'open' networking, where I ask anyone and everyone to connect....and I NEVER send the message 'I'd like to add you to my professional network.'

Facebook for personal stuff, LI for business stuff. I keep FB limited to friends only, and still keep it clean, because you never know when someone is going to forward something with your name on it. I use LinkedIn to keep my 'brand' out there, sending news blurbs out, keeping my network current, etc. I also use it to help other people network, which is just as important.

It's not immune to spam/scam, though. I've noticed a rise in the number of 'fake' networking requests....always from women with attractive pics, and what appear to be real profiles....but as soon as you Google them, there's no record of them anywhere else, and their profiles don't have enough 'real' detail. If I don't know you in some way......you don't get in. I don't need any more phishing attempts than I already filter out.
2012-12-29 05:29:37 AM
2 votes:
Article is spot on.  Linkedin is a valuable tool if used properly.  I've been laid off 4 times since 2000...never out of work for more than a month.  I've had a number of tech buddies that I've been able to place in new positions...and I'm not a recruiter (2 in the last year...and 5 in the last 4).  Why?  Because I don't just use Linkedin when I'm looking for a job.  Networking matters.  Ultimately it's your skills and reputation that keep you employable, but networking helps you get your foot in the door.

For example, I have some 48 recruiters that personally spoken to over the last 10 years that I'm connected with on Linkedin (as a side note, I don't connect to recruiters that I haven't spoken with me personally).  I've forwarded on people that are looking and they've placed some of them.  When I need to look for a new job, they remember me.  I never turn down a call from a recruiter.  I typically talk with them about my skills and salary requirements and close with, "I'm not currently in the job market, but if you forward me a description and salary I can forward it on to qualified people in my network that may be looking."  Then I'll contact those individuals personally and ask if they're in the market...if they are,  I forward on the info.  I ask those technical resources to tell the recruiter that I sent them.

The last time I began looking for a job (fortunately, I was employed at the time), it took me one month before I received an offer (I turned it down)...two weeks later I landed my current gig (which I accepted).

Before Linkedin, I had to keep a spreadsheet of my recruiting contacts...and when they changed jobs it was hard to track them down.  I never have to post my resume on Dice, Monster, etc...anymore.

Linkedin is likely useless to those that work for the same company for many years.  But for someone that changes jobs every 2-3 years, it's an invaluable tool.
2012-12-28 11:55:44 PM
2 votes:
facebook for working stiffs
2012-12-29 10:44:16 PM
1 votes:

amundb: I created a profile like 8 years ago, have not touched it since. In those 8 years I have only recieved friend requests or whatever they are called from people who just suck at their job. The only people in my profession that use Linkedin that I know of are the idiots who somehow got hired in the first place.

//software engineer


Seriously, Mr. software engineer, if someone said to you 'I installed your software 8 years ago and then never touched it again. Why hasn't it made my life better?' you'd call them an idiot, wouldn't you?
2012-12-29 10:42:48 PM
1 votes:
I've never gotten anything useful out of that service.
2012-12-29 03:42:32 PM
1 votes:

Polyhazard: itsfullofstars: aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.

The days of coders working in a dark corner in near total isolation are over. As as the days where you could hold a job for 10+ years.

Yet this attitude is strangely pervasive.

These are often the same folks who show nothing but contempt for the end user, the buying process, or the system that makes what they do have any economic value in the first place.

And they're often also the ones who think they're being turned down for positions because of affirmative action, or "feminization," or whatever. They don't even acknowledge that "soft skills" exist, because they simply don't have them.


These are the same people who think all managers and execs are pedantic parasites, that sales doesn't really do anything, and that product development teams, marketing professionals, and technical account managers just state the terribly obvious. Because of their tunnel vision, they do not appreciate or even see the entire ecosystem of support systems necessary to make their esoteric skill into something that is highly valuable. They think they are the only ones doing the real work, and that no one else matters. A lot of companies with great technology have failed because of this attitude.
2012-12-29 11:06:20 AM
1 votes:

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.


Maybe they, I dunno, weren't looking to hire?

Anyway, my current employer found me through LinkedIn. Saw my profile in a search, rang me up, asked a few questions and brought me in for an interview.

Like all Internet tools, it is what you make of it. I'd say blasting out "can some1 give me a job plz?" messages aren't exactly a winning strategy there.
2012-12-29 10:48:44 AM
1 votes:

Madbassist1: natazha: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.

Well (and this is honest constructive criticism, no snark intended), you could help your business by redoing that geo-cities generated website. A poorly designed website just looks amateurish. People dont want to do business with people lwho appear inexperienced...or do not have the capital to make long term commitments.


It may also be the fact that unless I'm missing something, you haven't actually set up a company profile on LinkedIn.

You don't have to be a "1%er" to understand that you have to put some effort into it before it's going to produce any results.
2012-12-29 10:13:31 AM
1 votes:

itsfullofstars: aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.

The days of coders working in a dark corner in near total isolation are over. As as the days where you could hold a job for 10+ years.


Yet this attitude is strangely pervasive.

These are often the same folks who show nothing but contempt for the end user, the buying process, or the system that makes what they do have any economic value in the first place.

And they're often also the ones who think they're being turned down for positions because of affirmative action, or "feminization," or whatever. They don't even acknowledge that "soft skills" exist, because they simply don't have them.
2012-12-29 09:56:52 AM
1 votes:

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


The days of coders working in a dark corner in near total isolation are over. As as the days where you could hold a job for 10+ years.
2012-12-29 09:52:54 AM
1 votes:
It really depends on your profession; the only colleague I have that uses it is the one that is routinely subject to professional discipline. His non-stop invites are a source of much amusement.
2012-12-29 09:42:23 AM
1 votes:

Madbassist1: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

This. Thread is full of idiots who dont have the skills to even remotely be recruitable.

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.

Wow...thats some real cognitive dissonance going on right there...


Seriously.

You folks who use LinkedIn as the Unemployment Office are doing it wrong.

Don't be desperate, be awesome... And findable.
2012-12-29 09:26:48 AM
1 votes:

stratagos: moviemarketing: I wonder if someone who uses the site regularly can explain something for me.

I don't have any LinkedIn account, but the site has a profile with my employment history.

I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.

LinkedIn has a feature where (with your permission) they can go your email box and try to match email addresses with profiles you aren't linked to. They aren't really looking at the profile when they send the invite

People who use LinkedIn for recruiting actively try to 'Link' not necessarily for you, but for other people in your network. If they see John Smith - who is linked to you - has a skill they need, they can ask you for an (electronic) introduction


That seems to be the case. I met with a recruiter a couple of months ago about changing jobs, and then joined up with her on Linkedin. Since then, I've been contacted by several other recruiters (whom I'd never met before) at different agencies through LinkedIn, probably because they saw her linking to me.

The positions they've asking me to apply for all look pretty good, so I'm sure not complaining.
mjg
2012-12-29 09:17:52 AM
1 votes:
Drew is on Linkedin.

/Drew Curtis
CEO at Fark.com Inc
Lexington, Kentucky Area
2012-12-29 08:48:12 AM
1 votes:

Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...


This. Thread is full of idiots who dont have the skills to even remotely be recruitable.

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.


Wow...thats some real cognitive dissonance going on right there...
2012-12-29 07:32:44 AM
1 votes:

Haliburton Cummings: bikkurikun: whargbllle

thanks for the plug Romero.


If you have nothing of value to add, why not just shut up?
2012-12-29 06:05:28 AM
1 votes:

moviemarketing: I wonder if someone who uses the site regularly can explain something for me.

I don't have any LinkedIn account, but the site has a profile with my employment history.

I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.


LinkedIn has a feature where (with your permission) they can go your email box and try to match email addresses with profiles you aren't linked to. They aren't really looking at the profile when they send the invite

People who use LinkedIn for recruiting actively try to 'Link' not necessarily for you, but for other people in your network. If they see John Smith - who is linked to you - has a skill they need, they can ask you for an (electronic) introduction
2012-12-29 05:55:22 AM
1 votes:

azmoviez: I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.


If you try adding everyone on the way out the door, and your boss is connected to them, that might look bad. Then again, I do the open networking thing and accept anyone who wants to connect with me. It's never seemed to hurt my job prospects to have more connections on there.
2012-12-29 05:27:04 AM
1 votes:

orbister: I've never managed to see anything on Linkedin except a dreadful 1990s style design and a few minimal details of people I don't know much about. Am I right in thinking that I have to give them thirty quid a month to see the useful stuff? Does that get me a non-Geocities interface too?


The current design is one the best things about the site, very clear and useful. Great Ipad app too. Linkedin is free, the paid additional services are only useful if you are a professional headhunter I think, never saw the use for it.

But as I said above, with Linkedin you get in return what you put in to it. If you a. have a job where you make and need a lot of contacts, and b. are active in connecting and sharing information, it is an extremely useful tool for business networking, contact management and job hunting. If I would still be running my own company, I would make it compulsary for all employees to maintain an active linkedin profile.
2012-12-29 05:18:52 AM
1 votes:
I've never managed to see anything on Linkedin except a dreadful 1990s style design and a few minimal details of people I don't know much about. Am I right in thinking that I have to give them thirty quid a month to see the useful stuff? Does that get me a non-Geocities interface too?
2012-12-29 04:38:36 AM
1 votes:

azmoviez: I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.


It depends on what your job is. My work includes also business development, and I generate probably 20% of my business from linkedin, and for that I not only use my own contacts, but also the contacts of my contacts, which includes my co-workers. I have about 1300 contacts there, meaning a huge pool of 2nd connections as well.

So if I write an article or organize a seminar and post it on linkedin, I hope/expect at least a couple of my co-workers and other connections will share it on their profiles. In addition I post it in relevant groups, and if I did write something worthwile, reactions and possible business will most certainly come. If we organize a seminar probably half of participants signed up because they saw it on linkedin. Of course it helps that I am in The Netherlands, which for some reason has the highest linkedin participation rate.

If I see a potential client and he happens to be connected to a friend or co-worker, I ask for an introduction. If I am looking for an entrance to a certain company, I do the same. If I hear from a client that he is he looking for a service that we dont provide, I look in my linkedin network for someone who can. So for me it really helps that other co-workers use it as well even if they are not directly involved in sales or business-development. If you are an in our IT department and one of your former classmates is head of IT at company x, and company x is a potential client for me, that is an entrance. I

In addition it is just a great tool to keep track of your professional network, no need anymore to update your own database, and a good place for job-hunting.

Linkedin is the best thing on the internet for me, after Fark and porn of course.
2012-12-29 04:35:03 AM
1 votes:
Deleted my account because my profile was getting creeped by people that don't need to know my business.

Trying to reduce my internet footprint, yo.
2012-12-29 04:03:34 AM
1 votes:

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


Yes. Because engineers are magical, money-raising machines.
2012-12-29 04:03:06 AM
1 votes:
You can change the default "I'd like to add you to my professional network" message? Huh, really.

They'd changed the interface so many times I don't even know where the "invite" UI is anymore... Much less how to change the message.

Other than that, I like and use LinkedIn.
2012-12-29 03:57:11 AM
1 votes:
If someone reads the snark on my LinkedIn profile and yet still hires me, then I'd be willing to work there.
 
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