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(Time)   Nine mistakes you're making on LinkedIn. Conspicuously absent from the list: being on LinkedIn in the first place   (business.time.com) divider line 59
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2012-12-28 11:55:44 PM  
facebook for working stiffs
 
2012-12-29 01:00:38 AM  
I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.
 
2012-12-29 03:46:51 AM  
LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.
 
2012-12-29 03:52:06 AM  
Reads like an ad for Linkedin.

Lots of a$$ ki$$ing and brown nosing recommendations.
 
2012-12-29 03:56:51 AM  
That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...
 
2012-12-29 03:57:11 AM  
If someone reads the snark on my LinkedIn profile and yet still hires me, then I'd be willing to work there.
 
2012-12-29 04:03:06 AM  
You can change the default "I'd like to add you to my professional network" message? Huh, really.

They'd changed the interface so many times I don't even know where the "invite" UI is anymore... Much less how to change the message.

Other than that, I like and use LinkedIn.
 
2012-12-29 04:03:34 AM  

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


Yes. Because engineers are magical, money-raising machines.
 
2012-12-29 04:04:34 AM  
Lots of "underemployed" waving their tiny fists of rage in this thread.
 
2012-12-29 04:10:22 AM  

StopLurkListen: You can change the default "I'd like to add you to my professional network" message? Huh, really.
They'd changed the interface so many times I don't even know where the "invite" UI is anymore... Much less how to change the message.
Other than that, I like and use LinkedIn.


Found the invite UI: "Add Connections" in green text in upper right; click on "Any Email" icon; then click on "Invite by individual email" text; type the email address

... Step 5: "Change the default email message"? ...Darned if I can find it.
 
2012-12-29 04:14:13 AM  
The biggest problem with Linkedin is that it won't help you score weed off your co-worker after work.
 
2012-12-29 04:30:55 AM  

bemused outsider: Reads like an ad for Linkedin.

Lots of a$$ ki$$ing and brown nosing recommendations.


time, life and all those other dooshbag media fluffball fakemags will do that sot of thing. they get paid. note the key buzzwords all throughout. designed for robo pick-up.
 
2012-12-29 04:35:03 AM  
Deleted my account because my profile was getting creeped by people that don't need to know my business.

Trying to reduce my internet footprint, yo.
 
2012-12-29 04:38:36 AM  

azmoviez: I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.


It depends on what your job is. My work includes also business development, and I generate probably 20% of my business from linkedin, and for that I not only use my own contacts, but also the contacts of my contacts, which includes my co-workers. I have about 1300 contacts there, meaning a huge pool of 2nd connections as well.

So if I write an article or organize a seminar and post it on linkedin, I hope/expect at least a couple of my co-workers and other connections will share it on their profiles. In addition I post it in relevant groups, and if I did write something worthwile, reactions and possible business will most certainly come. If we organize a seminar probably half of participants signed up because they saw it on linkedin. Of course it helps that I am in The Netherlands, which for some reason has the highest linkedin participation rate.

If I see a potential client and he happens to be connected to a friend or co-worker, I ask for an introduction. If I am looking for an entrance to a certain company, I do the same. If I hear from a client that he is he looking for a service that we dont provide, I look in my linkedin network for someone who can. So for me it really helps that other co-workers use it as well even if they are not directly involved in sales or business-development. If you are an in our IT department and one of your former classmates is head of IT at company x, and company x is a potential client for me, that is an entrance. I

In addition it is just a great tool to keep track of your professional network, no need anymore to update your own database, and a good place for job-hunting.

Linkedin is the best thing on the internet for me, after Fark and porn of course.
 
2012-12-29 05:16:23 AM  

azmoviez: I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.


On the flipside, I know employers who think if you AREN'T looking for something better, you're not good enough for them. Out on your ear inside a year.

I wouldn't want to work for a place like that, but they exist.
 
2012-12-29 05:18:52 AM  
I've never managed to see anything on Linkedin except a dreadful 1990s style design and a few minimal details of people I don't know much about. Am I right in thinking that I have to give them thirty quid a month to see the useful stuff? Does that get me a non-Geocities interface too?
 
2012-12-29 05:27:04 AM  

orbister: I've never managed to see anything on Linkedin except a dreadful 1990s style design and a few minimal details of people I don't know much about. Am I right in thinking that I have to give them thirty quid a month to see the useful stuff? Does that get me a non-Geocities interface too?


The current design is one the best things about the site, very clear and useful. Great Ipad app too. Linkedin is free, the paid additional services are only useful if you are a professional headhunter I think, never saw the use for it.

But as I said above, with Linkedin you get in return what you put in to it. If you a. have a job where you make and need a lot of contacts, and b. are active in connecting and sharing information, it is an extremely useful tool for business networking, contact management and job hunting. If I would still be running my own company, I would make it compulsary for all employees to maintain an active linkedin profile.
 
2012-12-29 05:29:37 AM  
Article is spot on.  Linkedin is a valuable tool if used properly.  I've been laid off 4 times since 2000...never out of work for more than a month.  I've had a number of tech buddies that I've been able to place in new positions...and I'm not a recruiter (2 in the last year...and 5 in the last 4).  Why?  Because I don't just use Linkedin when I'm looking for a job.  Networking matters.  Ultimately it's your skills and reputation that keep you employable, but networking helps you get your foot in the door.

For example, I have some 48 recruiters that personally spoken to over the last 10 years that I'm connected with on Linkedin (as a side note, I don't connect to recruiters that I haven't spoken with me personally).  I've forwarded on people that are looking and they've placed some of them.  When I need to look for a new job, they remember me.  I never turn down a call from a recruiter.  I typically talk with them about my skills and salary requirements and close with, "I'm not currently in the job market, but if you forward me a description and salary I can forward it on to qualified people in my network that may be looking."  Then I'll contact those individuals personally and ask if they're in the market...if they are,  I forward on the info.  I ask those technical resources to tell the recruiter that I sent them.

The last time I began looking for a job (fortunately, I was employed at the time), it took me one month before I received an offer (I turned it down)...two weeks later I landed my current gig (which I accepted).

Before Linkedin, I had to keep a spreadsheet of my recruiting contacts...and when they changed jobs it was hard to track them down.  I never have to post my resume on Dice, Monster, etc...anymore.

Linkedin is likely useless to those that work for the same company for many years.  But for someone that changes jobs every 2-3 years, it's an invaluable tool.
 
2012-12-29 05:49:20 AM  
I wonder if someone who uses the site regularly can explain something for me.

I don't have any LinkedIn account, but the site has a profile with my employment history.

I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.
 
2012-12-29 05:55:22 AM  

azmoviez: I really hate getting LinkedIn requests from co-workers or resellers or partners at my current employer.  Umm, how about no?

LinkedIn, IMO, is only good for looking for new employment and why would I announce that to anyone even close to my current employer? I'm looking for better opportunities and not to get marginalized because I updated my resume.


If you try adding everyone on the way out the door, and your boss is connected to them, that might look bad. Then again, I do the open networking thing and accept anyone who wants to connect with me. It's never seemed to hurt my job prospects to have more connections on there.
 
2012-12-29 05:56:56 AM  

moviemarketing: I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.


It can sync with your email account, sometimes without even realizing you allowed it if you connect both accounts to a phone for example. If it does, it tries to add everyone you have ever emailed with.
 
2012-12-29 05:59:38 AM  
LINKEDLN

Stupid name.

Oh, it's Linked In...like it's actually two words together? Brilliant.
 
2012-12-29 06:00:45 AM  

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


Yes, because product or services that cannot be connected to the right buyers are very valuable.
 
2012-12-29 06:05:28 AM  

moviemarketing: I wonder if someone who uses the site regularly can explain something for me.

I don't have any LinkedIn account, but the site has a profile with my employment history.

I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.


LinkedIn has a feature where (with your permission) they can go your email box and try to match email addresses with profiles you aren't linked to. They aren't really looking at the profile when they send the invite

People who use LinkedIn for recruiting actively try to 'Link' not necessarily for you, but for other people in your network. If they see John Smith - who is linked to you - has a skill they need, they can ask you for an (electronic) introduction
 
2012-12-29 06:54:06 AM  

bikkurikun: whargbllle


thanks for the plug Romero.
 
2012-12-29 07:32:44 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: bikkurikun: whargbllle

thanks for the plug Romero.


If you have nothing of value to add, why not just shut up?
 
2012-12-29 07:37:55 AM  

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


ding ding winnar
 
2012-12-29 07:46:01 AM  
It's awesome for finding real high paying jobs. Fark you you farking dipshiate straight our of high school recruiters. LinkedIn and CraigsList are where the real jobs are posted.
 
2012-12-29 07:46:42 AM  

JerkyMeat: The biggest problem with Linkedin is that it won't help you score weed off your co-worker after work.


Yeah, I noticed that. Farking worthless site.
 
2012-12-29 07:58:40 AM  
It's as valuable as you make it - I've been on LI since it's first year. (my member # is in the 200,000 range, current size is around 20,000,000). I'm not actively 'looking', but I've gotten at least 4 legitimate interview requests in the last month. My 1st level network is 'only' in the 600 or so range...but I know every one of those people. I don't do 'open' networking, where I ask anyone and everyone to connect....and I NEVER send the message 'I'd like to add you to my professional network.'

Facebook for personal stuff, LI for business stuff. I keep FB limited to friends only, and still keep it clean, because you never know when someone is going to forward something with your name on it. I use LinkedIn to keep my 'brand' out there, sending news blurbs out, keeping my network current, etc. I also use it to help other people network, which is just as important.

It's not immune to spam/scam, though. I've noticed a rise in the number of 'fake' networking requests....always from women with attractive pics, and what appear to be real profiles....but as soon as you Google them, there's no record of them anywhere else, and their profiles don't have enough 'real' detail. If I don't know you in some way......you don't get in. I don't need any more phishing attempts than I already filter out.
 
2012-12-29 08:18:39 AM  
I use linked in aggressively to make and maintain contacts. Then again, my job is university outreach so a site like Linked In is ready made for me. Pretty much every person I've met who works in HR is on LinkedIn and encourages new recruits from the University to get on it and make a polished profile. It's not so much a social networking tool as it is a professional networking tool. I learn about new positions long before they get posted on job boards and use it as an easy way to get introductions to important new professionals I need to contact.

tl:dr if you don't work in sales, HR, PR or some kind of outreach or don't give a shiat about networking, then LinkedIn has no value to you. If you do, it's a clunky but useful tool.
 
2012-12-29 08:29:31 AM  
I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.
 
2012-12-29 08:48:12 AM  

Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...


This. Thread is full of idiots who dont have the skills to even remotely be recruitable.

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.


Wow...thats some real cognitive dissonance going on right there...
 
mjg
2012-12-29 09:17:52 AM  
Drew is on Linkedin.

/Drew Curtis
CEO at Fark.com Inc
Lexington, Kentucky Area
 
2012-12-29 09:26:48 AM  

stratagos: moviemarketing: I wonder if someone who uses the site regularly can explain something for me.

I don't have any LinkedIn account, but the site has a profile with my employment history.

I've had a client send me repeated emails "Ms. X would like to connect with you on Linked In" and I got the same thing from someone I once interviewed with for a job. If they want to connect with me, these people already have my email and phone number, in fact, I continue to talk with them or exchange emails from time to time.

Are these people continuing to send me invites over and over, or was it a case of them seeing my Linked In profile and clicking once some button that keeps sending this crap to me? Because the former would be creepy.

LinkedIn has a feature where (with your permission) they can go your email box and try to match email addresses with profiles you aren't linked to. They aren't really looking at the profile when they send the invite

People who use LinkedIn for recruiting actively try to 'Link' not necessarily for you, but for other people in your network. If they see John Smith - who is linked to you - has a skill they need, they can ask you for an (electronic) introduction


That seems to be the case. I met with a recruiter a couple of months ago about changing jobs, and then joined up with her on Linkedin. Since then, I've been contacted by several other recruiters (whom I'd never met before) at different agencies through LinkedIn, probably because they saw her linking to me.

The positions they've asking me to apply for all look pretty good, so I'm sure not complaining.
 
2012-12-29 09:42:23 AM  

Madbassist1: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

This. Thread is full of idiots who dont have the skills to even remotely be recruitable.

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.

Wow...thats some real cognitive dissonance going on right there...


Seriously.

You folks who use LinkedIn as the Unemployment Office are doing it wrong.

Don't be desperate, be awesome... And findable.
 
2012-12-29 09:48:18 AM  
PS: the new design is quite nice, and WAY more useful than even a couple years ago.
 
2012-12-29 09:52:54 AM  
It really depends on your profession; the only colleague I have that uses it is the one that is routinely subject to professional discipline. His non-stop invites are a source of much amusement.
 
2012-12-29 09:56:52 AM  

aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.


The days of coders working in a dark corner in near total isolation are over. As as the days where you could hold a job for 10+ years.
 
2012-12-29 09:59:29 AM  

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

It was then that I realized that LinkedIn is more for showing off how your career is going, than actually helping any of your "friends" improve their career.

I still get constant requests from recruiters (especially). I don't even open the emails any more.


Just because it doesn't work the way you expected it to, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Those recruiters aren't emailing with timeshare sales pitches.
 
2012-12-29 10:13:31 AM  

itsfullofstars: aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.

The days of coders working in a dark corner in near total isolation are over. As as the days where you could hold a job for 10+ years.


Yet this attitude is strangely pervasive.

These are often the same folks who show nothing but contempt for the end user, the buying process, or the system that makes what they do have any economic value in the first place.

And they're often also the ones who think they're being turned down for positions because of affirmative action, or "feminization," or whatever. They don't even acknowledge that "soft skills" exist, because they simply don't have them.
 
2012-12-29 10:29:06 AM  

Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...


Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.
 
2012-12-29 10:32:13 AM  

natazha: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.


Well (and this is honest constructive criticism, no snark intended), you could help your business by redoing that geo-cities generated website. A poorly designed website just looks amateurish. People dont want to do business with people lwho appear inexperienced...or do not have the capital to make long term commitments.
 
2012-12-29 10:48:44 AM  

Madbassist1: natazha: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.

Well (and this is honest constructive criticism, no snark intended), you could help your business by redoing that geo-cities generated website. A poorly designed website just looks amateurish. People dont want to do business with people lwho appear inexperienced...or do not have the capital to make long term commitments.


It may also be the fact that unless I'm missing something, you haven't actually set up a company profile on LinkedIn.

You don't have to be a "1%er" to understand that you have to put some effort into it before it's going to produce any results.
 
2012-12-29 11:02:36 AM  

Polyhazard: aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.

Yes. Because engineers are magical, money-raising machines.


He's just mad because there's nowhere to put "McDonalds checkout" on the skills lists.
 
2012-12-29 11:06:20 AM  

durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.


Maybe they, I dunno, weren't looking to hire?

Anyway, my current employer found me through LinkedIn. Saw my profile in a search, rang me up, asked a few questions and brought me in for an interview.

Like all Internet tools, it is what you make of it. I'd say blasting out "can some1 give me a job plz?" messages aren't exactly a winning strategy there.
 
2012-12-29 11:13:51 AM  

shoegaze99: durbnpoisn: I'm sure that LinkedIn has it's purpose in the business world. But it's never done a damned thing for me. I remember a couple of years ago, I was ending a contract, and had nothing promising to look forward to, so I sent out a message to all my friends there. In short, "Anyone looking to hire out there?"

I have like 300 contacts there, and not a single farking one of them, not ONE, had a response.

Maybe they, I dunno, weren't looking to hire?

Anyway, my current employer found me through LinkedIn. Saw my profile in a search, rang me up, asked a few questions and brought me in for an interview.

Like all Internet tools, it is what you make of it. I'd say blasting out "can some1 give me a job plz?" messages aren't exactly a winning strategy there.


"Online dating is sucks. I didn't put up a photo yet, but I listed my height and said I like music and food... and not one single message has shown up in my inbox.

Why can't all these people appreciate me how interesting I really am?"
 
2012-12-29 11:33:36 AM  

Polyhazard: Madbassist1: natazha: Infobahn: That's how employers find me, and why I have the job I have now. Also, it is how I find sales leads. I make money because of Linkedin, so I am getting a kick...

Congratulations for being a 1%er. LinkIn has been useless for my business.

Well (and this is honest constructive criticism, no snark intended), you could help your business by redoing that geo-cities generated website. A poorly designed website just looks amateurish. People dont want to do business with people lwho appear inexperienced...or do not have the capital to make long term commitments.

It may also be the fact that unless I'm missing something, you haven't actually set up a company profile on LinkedIn.

You don't have to be a "1%er" to understand that you have to put some effort into it before it's going to produce any results.


Fascinating. I couldn't really tell for sure from the website, but our main sub-contractor may be looking for a product like this. The one they have apparently sucks and it's causing contract issues.

You might want to ask some of the folks who've commented on your site and linked in for some help with marketing. And really, not me, I suck at it myself. However, I was drawn in by their comments. (a geocities site...hilarious have to see that...crap...a scanner!) so they have a gift.

The main sub is on LI too so if you were, and you were findable, you might be getting an order.

I did email myself the link. Good luck.
 
2012-12-29 12:09:13 PM  
LinkedIn has been instrumental in my career since @2008. I live and work in CT / MA area. In my area of expertise in these 2 postage-stamp-sized states the whole "6 degrees of separation" has led to jobs. In fact, I just left a full time job for a better paying, work from home, more benefits and more paid time off, full time situation which was completely instigated by a head hunter seeing my LinkedIn profile. I just kicked the economy right in the crotch with LinkedIn so... yay me!
 
2012-12-29 01:27:52 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: aerojockey: LinkedIn is for the subset of workers whose job is to do things like "foster relationships" and "expand connections".

IOW, for people who are completely useless at anything productive.

ding ding winnar


Two back-office introverts?

Introvert here too, but remember, the Prom King and Queen rule for life, like it or not.
 
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