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2012-12-29 01:25:01 AM
7 votes:
Hate to say it, but I will:

A lot of men are latent rapists when a woman doesn't "give in" or, in the third world, maybe just kissing her boyfriend on the bus.The word "no" has no meaning for these creepazoids. And yes, you KNOW who you are.

This woman died of horrific injuries. A metal rod thrust into her vagina? Such BIG men they were...so much so that they needed a large metal pole to take the place of their tiny penises.

As a nurse, I can only imagine how this woman died...especially from the infection and organ damage from these animals' penis substitute.

This woman was YOUR daughter; YOUR wife; your SISTER.

Fark rapists.
2012-12-29 02:39:33 AM
6 votes:
She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still
2012-12-28 11:50:21 PM
6 votes:
The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.
2012-12-29 03:15:11 AM
5 votes:

clyph: Chinchillazilla: Are you saying a vagina is an attractive nuisance and a woman needs to put up a fence around it?

No, I'm saying that women aren't exempt from exercising personal responsibility and good judgement. Equality works both ways


I'm curious what kind of judgement could have helped her avoid this situation. She was not alone. She got on what she thought was a normal bus. Suddenly she was attacked by six men with a pipe. What exactly should she have done, Monday morning quarterbacker?
2012-12-29 12:26:31 AM
5 votes:
I don't normally vote "eye for an eye" in justice, but I'm willing to relax my opinion on the subject in this case.
2012-12-29 12:09:55 AM
5 votes:
In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.
2012-12-29 02:34:09 PM
4 votes:
SillyJesus
I'm going to say it yet again, because you don't get it.

There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

The fact that you start in with the "women shouldn't dress a certain way because it provokes rape" in a case where the victim died from having an iron rod RAMMED INTO HER ANUS AND BEING LITERALLY DISEMBOWELED shows you're a blithering idiot.

 Your comments about what women wear are not simply irrelevant, but downright grotesque.

How much more proof do you need that it wasn't about sexual gratification?
2012-12-29 12:51:35 AM
4 votes:

make me some tea: Farking savages.


And that's just the callous police officers and judges who refuse to take these crimes seriously.
2012-12-29 12:35:22 AM
4 votes:
Jesus Christ. This is the shiat that makes women in Islamic countries okay with covering themselves, being segregated and not driving. What the fark is wrong with men?
2012-12-29 12:28:52 AM
4 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: whatshisname: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

You might want to check your geography. Also see "partition"

And he could stand to look in a mirror if he follows any religion himself.


This. Christians do it in central Africa, Ireland and central/South America, Muslims do it in the Middle East, Hindus do it in India.

Religion has been used to oppress, rape, murder and steal all over the world. If one pretends only Muslims do it, one might as well carry a bright, flashing sign saying "BIGOTED IDIOT" around their neck.
2012-12-29 12:24:30 AM
4 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


Idiot.
2012-12-29 12:20:47 AM
4 votes:
Why did my first greenlight have to be something so farking horrible that makes me want to killmyselfwiuehrjbs?!

*gibberishandsobbing*

Its even worse than some articles state. She was sodomized with an iron rod so badly her intestines were dislodged. She basically got disemboweled.

There's no punishment that these bastards don't deserve.

Seriously, I think I'm just going to pound back a few drinks for the end of this year.
2012-12-29 12:17:53 AM
4 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


You might want to check your geography. Also see "partition"
2012-12-29 12:16:45 AM
4 votes:

moralpanic: WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?


It's always been happening in India.  The problem is the police generally refuse to do anything and say the woman are whores so they deserved it.
2012-12-29 12:13:17 AM
4 votes:

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.


It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.
2012-12-29 05:07:06 AM
3 votes:

clyph: NativeDaughter: She must have been dressed provocatively.
And she was probably drunk.

I get the point you're trying to make.

Ther'es a fine line between blaming the victim (which is wrong), and pointing out that the victim voluntarily engaged in reckless or negligent behavior which contributed to the circumstances of the crime.

If I leave my car unlocked, and somebody steals it, they're still guilty of grand theft auto. But my insurance company probably isn't going to pay out either, because of my failure to take reasonable precautions to prevent the crime.

Contributory negligence and attractive nuisance are well-established legal doctrines.


You, sir, are the reason this happens.   Please rethink breathing.
2012-12-29 02:42:47 AM
3 votes:

Strongbeerrules: Well, that's it. I'm boycotting the Tata Nano.

Seriously, what has this culture given the world besides bad food and a caste system?

www.pbs.org

The so-called Arabic numerals and the Taj Mahaj, to name two off the top of my head.
2012-12-29 02:37:53 AM
3 votes:

Ed Finnerty: She didn't get pregnant so I can only assume this wasn't legitimate rape.


No, no, you have it backward.  When we don't get pregnant, it *is* legitimate rape because our Magic VaginasTM recognized all that unwanted attention and activity and shut the whole thing down.  Pregnancy means we (and Jesus, and his sky wizard dad) wanted it.

She must have been dressed provocatively.
And she was probably drunk.
And those men on the bus had obviously been cuckolded by the Feminist Agenda and could no longer withold their righteous indignation and sexual frustration.
And she was also probably really hot and flaunted it in their faces.
And they couldn't help themselves because men have no control over their sexual urges.
And this was all just an expression of sexual desire gone wrong, and has nothing to do with the routine objectification and contempt for women that is rampant in <b>many</b> societies.
And it certainly has nothing to do with <i>some</i> men feeling entitled to sexual satisfaction and compliance, or a desire to dominate and humiliate those they feel are weaker or lesser than themselves.

/Right, Fark?
//<i>Right?</i>
2012-12-29 02:26:20 AM
3 votes:

brandent: sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.

I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?


Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.
2012-12-29 02:17:53 AM
3 votes:

Strongbeerrules: Well, that's it. I'm boycotting the Tata Nano.

Seriously, what has this culture given the world besides bad food and a caste system?


The bigotry in this thread is truly shameful. I suspect I'm the only poster who has actually been to India, and while it is a desperately poor country, it has an ancient culture and wonderful people doing what they can with what they have.

What has India given the world?

wikitravel.org

0.tqn.com

www.dreamstime.com
And the sculptures of Khajurao (which are fairly NSFW so here's a link)
2012-12-29 02:02:54 AM
3 votes:
"Passed away peacefully," my ass. She was fighting so hard not to die.
2012-12-29 01:24:55 AM
3 votes:

OgreMagi: gblive: I would urge everyone to read the Wikipedia summary to get the correct background information on this case:

2012 Delhi gang rape case

From that summary, "Mukesh Singh (one of the attackers), who was placed in Tihar Jail after his arrest, was assaulted by other inmates and reportedly forced to consume human excreta and urine."  Pity that was the worse thing that happened to him.  And based on what the politicians are saying, that's all that will happen because they like to protect scum like this.


Look, I'm as right-wing as the next guy and I don't want to see people get beat up and tortured. The guy killed someone and brutalized them first. Just put them down. There's nothing you can do that will even things out. You can't start taking pleasure in hurting bad people. It's just not a good thing. Keep it clinical and professional. Defective human... just pull a recall like it's a car.
2012-12-29 01:08:26 AM
3 votes:

cmb53208: Can't we all agree that India is a backward, disease-riddden shiatthole? Why do we outsource jobs to these asswipes again?


Lost your job to one of the indian call centers?

It was a horrible crime, and a very sad event. Treat it like that. trying to define a country by the action of a few (or that idiotic event to define a religion that has nothing to do with it) is not helpful to anyone.

PEOPLE, THIS IS A VERY SAD AND TERRIBLE EVENT. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO BEND IT TO GET TO YOUR AGENDA.
2012-12-29 12:51:06 AM
3 votes:

make me some tea: Farking savages.


But then there's that whole issue of mass murders of 5-year-olds to consider, isn't there? Who the hell are the savages?
2012-12-29 12:48:25 AM
3 votes:
Farking savages.
2012-12-29 12:29:39 AM
3 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


What the actual Fark?

None of the victim or perpetrators were muslim. And India is not a muslim country. Welcome to my ignore list, and the nominee for the dumbest comment of the year candidate.

That's quite an achievement giving this is fark.
2012-12-29 01:24:12 PM
2 votes:

dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still


Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...
2012-12-29 11:25:02 AM
2 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: Phoenix_M: Maybe the women of India should go on a "sex strike" it wok in the Philippines.

I think that would only affect the "not willing to rape" menfolk.... the rapists would probably take it as a challenge.


These kinds of events don't just rest on the shoulders of the rapists, not when there's non-rapist enablers out there looking the other way.
2012-12-29 08:45:49 AM
2 votes:
The way NaitiveDaughter is talking, she believes that a woman has a god-given right to get blackout drunk and walk around a biker bar wearing a see-thru thong bikini with complete impunity, and if something does happen to her she bears absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for putting herself in that situation.

It would be nice if that was the kind of world we lived in, where everyone was decent and respected everyone else's rights, and never took advantage of them when they let their guard down. It would be nice if we lived in a world where we could leave our front doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition of our cars.

But we don't live in that world. We live in a world inhabited by (a small number) of monsters and predators, and we ignore that fact to our own peril. Ultimately, you have to look out for yourself and take responsibility for your safety and your own actions. Furthermore, the law recognizes this fact by saying that we don't get to play the victim card (or at least only get to play it for reduced value) if we willfully abdicate our responsibility to take reasonable precautions.


I would feel perfectly safe walking around a biker bar in a see through bikini. Have you ever known a biker? Hung out with them? No? Then shut the fark up.

Rape is more about power and control than sexual desire. A rapist gets off on degrading another human being. What the victim is wearing doesn't really matter as much as you think. Every person deserves to be not-raped at all times, even if they are drunk and wearing sexy clothes.  You are using the same rationalization to justify a rape as a rapist would.
2012-12-29 07:53:41 AM
2 votes:

MmmmBacon: Just a thought: Can we apply pressure on India economically to straighten their act out on rape and related crimes against women, by applying pressure on multinational companies that do business there? Basically, refuse to purchase products from Multinational X because they produce their products in India, or have call-centers there, etc. And in boycotting these companies, make sure they know exactly why they have lost your business. Then, if they are damaged enough through direct loss of sales or indirect loss of income due to bad PR, perhaps these companies will pull out of India or put pressure on the Indian government to take these cases seriously?

Not likely, of course, but trying to do something to effect change is better than thinking good thoughts and wishing the rape-gangs away, no?


Perhaps we could use unicorns to speed up the process.
2012-12-29 04:59:20 AM
2 votes:
I am heartened that India is tearing itself apart over the dignity of a rape victim. 20 or 30 years ago this might have been dismissed with a shrug. Now Indians care enough for the dignity of women that they will take to the streets.
2012-12-29 03:33:49 AM
2 votes:

clyph: Ther'es a fine line between blaming the victim (which is wrong), and pointing out that the victim voluntarily engaged in reckless or negligent behavior which contributed to the circumstances of the crime.

If I leave my car unlocked, and somebody steals it, they're still guilty of grand theft auto. But my insurance company probably isn't going to pay out either, because of my failure to take reasonable precautions to prevent the crime.

Contributory negligence and attractive nuisance are well-established legal doctrines.


What the rapist is going to sue the victim for having an overly attractive hoo haa? Put it this way, when the cops catch you pushing a shopping cart loaded with merchandise out the door of a business after hours, your claims that the door was not only unlocked but wide open will not impress them much, nor the judge, nor your fellow prisoners at the pokie.

Personally though, it's obvious you have no idea what women have to put with.
2012-12-29 02:42:43 AM
2 votes:

BroncoFan_17: TigersorHawksorBoth: fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.

nah, death penalty for those who kill several people.

So several pieces of sh8t could gang rape and beat your daughter to death, on a bus, and you'd be cool with them only getting life in prison as long as they didn't shoot the bus driver to death, too?

F*ck that. If it's in your being to be able to do this to another human being, we don't need your services on this planet anymore......and I damned sure shouldn't have to pay to feed, clothe, house and even "protect" you until you die of natural causes.



If I were a rapist, and knew I would get the death penalty for raping a girl, there's a better than likely chance I'll also murder her so that there's less chance of her identifying me to the police. Placing the death penalty on non murder related crimes might actually cause more murders to occur as the perpetrators try to cover up their crimes so they don't end up in the noose.
2012-12-29 02:12:03 AM
2 votes:
Sad thing happening.

The only good thing in this is that it finally woke Indians on the problem of rape and police inaction about it. Fark had the trifecta on indian rape because the local press is now picking up so many stories of police protecting the bad guys, they have enough to write for months after the main case is done.
2012-12-29 01:49:59 AM
2 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


Nice

0/10 just because farkers are smarter than that.
2012-12-29 01:37:37 AM
2 votes:

scubamage: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

Most likely not. The country is 80% Hindu.

According to the CIA:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1%



If Bernie Silverstein and Laquanda Jones rob a bank in the US, you don't have to assume that they're both white and Christian. Anyways, based on last names:

Ram Singh - Sikh
Mukesh Singh - Sikh
Vinay Sharma - Hindu
Pawan Gupta - Hindu or Jain
Akshay Thakur - HIndu
Raju - no way to tell

Bear in mind that many Hindu families who have converted to Christianity keep their names, so they might be Christian as well. Hate to rain on the parade, but it looks like a multidenominational gang-rape squad...
2012-12-29 01:34:39 AM
2 votes:

scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.


Let's not be too hasty.

Let's have them gang-raped by several large perverts on a bus over the course of several miles, then get dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle miles from help.
2012-12-29 01:30:39 AM
2 votes:
Guys, it's not much better in america. A child got gang-raped in texas, by more than 15 guys, and now they are tring to say she was at fault. At least 6 guys were assulted at OSU and campus cops tried to cover it up. Don't pretend it doesn't happen in the USA.
2012-12-29 01:10:55 AM
2 votes:
A woman gets disemboweled by sick, evil men and yall are wondering what religion they are? Really?!? THAT'S the first thing that goes through your mind?

I feel sick.
2012-12-29 01:03:22 AM
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: We've had many threads for them. This one is for the woman who was gang-raped brutally in India. Please stop trying to derail it further.


Can you really be so obtuse? A pack of dogs are jumping on Indians while ignoring the problems in their own country and beating their chests about how they are so much more civilized...I mean fark me, most people here are slagging Islam for the crime when they don't even know the religions of India. It's ignorance and hipocrysy all balled up into a giant clusterfark. Sort of the history of American Foreign Policy over the last 60 years in a single thread!
2012-12-29 12:56:49 AM
2 votes:

whatshisname: scubamage: I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.

It's kind of pathetic watching the outrage over this while last week 20 kids were murdered and the major response from the public has been "Hell no! You aren't taking my second Amendment rights away!"


It may be a good time to point out that these type of gang rapes would occur less often in India if people had the right to own firearms. The private ownership of firearms is effectively banned in India. Only the very rich and politicians are able to navigate (read as bribe) the complex licensing bureaucracy & laws and be licensed to have a gun.

This leaves us with an India where criminal gangs carry knives, lead pipes and guns... and effectively do as they please.
2012-12-29 12:53:04 AM
2 votes:

whatshisname: schubie: Jesus Christ. This is the shiat that makes women in Islamic countries okay with covering themselves, being segregated and not driving. What the fark is wrong with men?

If you are so ignorant that you think India is an Islamic country, then you might do better to shut your farking mouth.


I'm not one of the dumbasses who hasn't seen Gandhi or read more than 15 books. Sorry if that wasn't clear. My point is, the whole reason that women submit to being covered, etc, is to keep horrific shiat like this from happening to them. It's for their "protection". I hope Indian women do channel Kali and don't become polyester shrouded wardens of the state. Also, what the fark is wrong with men that they can regularly do this sick shiat? In every country with more than a few million of them?
2012-12-29 12:50:21 AM
2 votes:

gblive: OgreMagi: gblive: Danack: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.


I don't think the Fark Misogyny Brigade need to get involved here, when the son of India's president already said:

"Those who are coming in the name of students in the rallies, sundori, sundori mahila (beautiful women), are highly dented and painted," Abhijit Mukherjee, an MP from Jangipur seat which the President had vacated before his election, told a vernacular news channel.

"Giving interviews in TV and showing off their children. I wonder whether they are students at all," he said, adding, "what's basically happening in Delhi is something like pink revolution, which has very little connection with ground realities."

Sadly nearly half of the politicians in India support the position that the woman on the bus was a whore and deserved it. The politicians are also saying all the women demonstrators are also whores who spend their time in discotheques.... and a bunch of other absurd claims. Unfortunately this is how women are treated and viewed in India.

When the path to justice is blocked by a wall of the government's creation to allow the criminals to prey upon the innocent, it is time to shed innocence and rise up against the criminals and their protectors.

The basic problem in India is that there is never any consequences for the attackers in any of these gang rape assaults. Each and every time they walk and no justice occurs. The women in India have had enough and are now protesting in the streets. And what do you ask is the reaction of the Indian government? They sent riot police to go beat the peaceful protestors - while many politicians called the female protestors all sorts of names,


That's why it's time for them to take matters into their own hands.  The system is broke.  The police and the politicians are protecting the scum of the earth and blaming innocent women.  Fark them.  Time to clean house.   Rope, tree, rapist/police/politician.  Some assembly required.  Yes, I am advocating violent insurrection.  And that is not something I would never do lightly.
2012-12-29 12:47:20 AM
2 votes:

scubamage: I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.


It's kind of pathetic watching the outrage over this while last week 20 kids were murdered and the major response from the public has been "Hell no! You aren't taking my second Amendment rights away!"
2012-12-29 12:43:17 AM
2 votes:

ComicBookGuy: scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.

You should ignore trolls of any stripe.


They shoved a metal rod up her, wrecking several internal organs. If you read several articles, that's why she went to Singapore, for an attempted multi-organ transplant. The only reason she was even given medical attention though was the protests. Normally they wouldn't even charge anyone.
2012-12-29 12:41:49 AM
2 votes:
WTF! Sickening. That poor woman.

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2012-12-29 12:40:13 AM
2 votes:
That poor woman and her family
Her attackers should get the death penalty
They just have to make sure the right arse-holes are prosecuted

That was an unbelievably brutal attack
These guys need to be made an example of
2012-12-29 12:37:54 AM
2 votes:

duffblue: Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next


No one is defending Islam.  We are pointing out that religion has absolutely NOTHING to do with these rapes.
2012-12-29 12:33:57 AM
2 votes:

gblive: moralpanic: WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?

Gang rapes and the abuse of women has been going on for a long time in India. It only gained attention internationally in the past couple of weeks due to all of the protests. Generally women are treated as second class citizens in India and the police refuse to take reports when they claim to have been raped (as happened in this case).


upload.wikimedia.org
Where's Kali when you need her? If the police are no help then the women need to take justice into their own hands. If mobs of women start amputating the penises of men who try to use their organs as weapons maybe things will start to get a little bit more civil.
2012-12-29 12:32:32 AM
2 votes:

atomicmask: This is the hallmark of islam, rape squads used to intimidate the local populous into following sharia law.


Dude, you're pulling a massive stupid here and then trying to defend. Quit while you're only looking idiotic, don't make it worse.
2012-12-29 12:31:24 AM
2 votes:

scubamage: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

Most likely not. The country is 80% Hindu.

According to the CIA:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1%


Yes. The Muslim part of India is called Pakistan.
2012-12-29 12:21:36 AM
2 votes:

heap: not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.


Either the driver didn't care, or he saw the other guy on the bus get nearly beaten to death for trying to intervene and decided to keep his mouth shut. Now why he wouldn't pull up in front of a police station and get help, that I can't answer.
2012-12-29 12:18:33 AM
2 votes:

ComicBookGuy: You should ignore trolls of any stripe.


I've seen some people on Fark turn some really horrendous shiat into a 'biatches were asking for it' rant.

I hope it doesn't crop up in this thread.
2012-12-29 12:18:25 AM
2 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


All the people involved were Hindus, not Muslims.
2012-12-29 12:17:52 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.


If the current law was applied in the first place I would be satisfied
2012-12-29 12:12:00 AM
2 votes:
Sad. I wonder how good her medical care would have been if she'd not had hundreds protesting in her favor.
2012-12-31 04:43:27 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.


That didn't happen here. Stop moving the goal posts, end zones, and stadiums around.

sleeper2995: RedVentrue: brandent: sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.

I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?

Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.

I guess but I would still think it would be crazy difficult to get and maintain a stable erection with a gi ...


When a group of guys are daring each other to go farther, more ruthless, more demeaning, than the last act, horrible outcomes are almost guaranteed.
2012-12-31 01:20:15 AM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: MeanJean: Liam76
 I don't "blame" women who dress provocatively, but it is no different than displaying a laptop in a car.

 I don't think dress is a factor in every rape, nor has anyone else said that, but that doesn't mean it never is.

(sigh)

Welp, I tried.

Yeah, it's so depressing when people don't buy your brand of misinformation.


First of all, inappropriate dress does differ from culture to culture.  So the whole concept of what a woman was wearing caused her to be raped is bunk loosely based on the culture of the rapist.

But using the whole laptop in the car in a bad neighborhood analogy.  Last I checked the neighborhoods with the bars on the windows and the electric fences where shiatty neighborhoods.  Even if you don't have a nice car or a valuable in it, it still runs the risk of being broken into.  And there are places you can live where people don't care to do that to your car even with the windows open and the doors unlocked.

So clearly it's more of a cultural thing that needs to be fixed.  Blaming someone's clothing doesn't seem to even come close to the issue at hand.
2012-12-29 07:58:29 PM
1 votes:

PsiChick: theBigBigEye: PsiChick: dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still

Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...

....Or just have their army execute them and their families in the middle of the street, in public (as I mentioned above).

/Zero bureaucratic overhead
//No red tape
///IMMEDIATE political effect!

The problem with that is that it removes both power and pressure from the woman. I hate to say it, but that's the reasoning behind burqas--men must avenge rape, therefore need to 'protect' women so they don't have to kill. Having the army do it doesn't change the concept.

Having the  woman, or one of her female family members do it, means the women involved have a better understanding of the situation and what the woman is going through, and leads to it being less likely that the society will demand things like burqas.

/My .02
//This actually is totally unfounded in anything other than my personal opinion, so take it as you will.



I try not to be all Internet Tough Chick, but i really like this idea.
2012-12-29 03:25:16 PM
1 votes:
Liam76

Thank you for actually presenting me with an intelligent reply. In regards to the study, I would agree that alcohol use (which lowers your defenses) obviously is linked to the likelihood of sexual assault. As for number of different lifetime sexual partners... how exactly would an attacker know this? Furthermore, since the study is made up of college women, the factor of "provocative" clothing is probably due to the fact that heavy drinking (and rape) in college environments tends to take place at parties...where women are more likely to wear provocative clothing. The last two seem to be a classic case of correlation not equaling causation. Its like concluding that the sale of ice cream causes drownings because they both rise during the summer.

I wish I could download the entire article somewhere but I can't find it.

Also there are a number of studies that have men and women looking at pictures and given scenarios after which they are asked to assign blame. When the women are dressed more provocatively they get more "blame". This to me is going to also send a signal tot he rapist that they are more likely to "get away" with it.

Then the solution is obvious. We as a culture need to stop blaming women for dressing provocatively.

I refer you to this book:
http://books.google.com/books?id=hUCUg02fqCgC&pg=PA2&dq=rape+pseudo- se xual&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_FDfUNTkAey50AHyyYGwCQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q= rape%20pseudo-sexual&f=false

And this one:
http://books.google.com/books?id=mGaOIzxRByoC&pg=PA49&dq=rape+pseudo -s exual&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_FDfUNTkAey50AHyyYGwCQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q =rape%20pseudo-sexual&f=false

Especially the passage mentioning that in one study of 1,000 offenders over a 16-year period, all the offenders were sexually active males involved in consensual relationships at the time of the offense.
2012-12-29 02:52:58 PM
1 votes:
I can't seem to find a good copy of the original poster this is from, so I'm going to just post it verbatim.

Don't wear make-up.
Don't wear your hair long.
Don't wear short skirts.
Don't wear high heels.
Don't wear tight-fitting clothes.
Don't look sexy.
Don't bat your eyelashes.
Don't crack dirty jokes.
Don't flirt.
Don't smile at strangers.
Don't offer to help strangers.
Don't go out at night.
Don't go to parties.
Don't go on dates.
Don't go anywhere alone.
Don't attract attention.
Don't work late.
Don't trust anyone.
Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Don't be a woman.
Don't exist.
2012-12-29 02:45:22 PM
1 votes:
SillyJesus
Meh, you didn't pay attention to the context of my post and to who / what it was directed so I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you.

Is that you, Judge Dewar?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/02/25/no-woman-asks-to-be-raped-vi ct im-slams-judges-decision/

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Justice-Dewar-removed- fr om-cases-of-sexual-nature-117193448.html

/or are you just another "clumsy Don Juan"?
2012-12-29 02:21:35 PM
1 votes:
Clyph
If I leave my car unlocked, and somebody steals it, they're still guilty of grand theft auto. But my insurance company probably isn't going to pay out either, because of my failure to take reasonable precautions to prevent the crime.

Yeah, the carelessness of that woman, being out with a male companion and boarding a bus at 9 pm.

Even if she was careless, what difference does it make? She's not getting an insurance payout. This isn't a civil case, its a criminal justice case.
2012-12-29 01:57:26 PM
1 votes:

theBigBigEye: PsiChick: dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still

Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...

....Or just have their army execute them and their families in the middle of the street, in public (as I mentioned above).

/Zero bureaucratic overhead
//No red tape
///IMMEDIATE political effect!


The problem with that is that it removes both power and pressure from the woman. I hate to say it, but that's the reasoning behind burqas--men must avenge rape, therefore need to 'protect' women so they don't have to kill. Having the army do it doesn't change the concept.

Having the  woman, or one of her female family members do it, means the women involved have a better understanding of the situation and what the woman is going through, and leads to it being less likely that the society will demand things like burqas.

/My .02
//This actually is totally unfounded in anything other than my personal opinion, so take it as you will.
2012-12-29 01:19:22 PM
1 votes:
This is not about Islam, or Hinduism, or Christianity, or any other religion.  This is about six men who felt the need to brutally rape and murder a woman for the hell of it.
2012-12-29 10:40:15 AM
1 votes:

sleeper2995: RedVentrue: brandent: sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.

I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?

Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.

I guess but I would still think it would be crazy difficult to get and maintain a stable erection with a girl bleed and crying. I mean hell I have never thought bloody snot bubbles looked hot. It's good she isn't suffering anymore having to smell that awful curry.


That's what the pipe was for.

/ignoring racist curry comment
2012-12-29 09:57:05 AM
1 votes:

swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus:

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.


a thousand times This! She was nice enough to give you a visual treat yet you felt the need to brutally abuse her for it.

/beat your meat ~ not the treat.
2012-12-29 09:55:42 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


Weirdly Islam gets most of it's ideas for the shiatty treatment of women from Leviticus.

Themoreyouknow.jpeg
2012-12-29 09:39:35 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.


It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.
2012-12-29 09:39:07 AM
1 votes:
I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.

Ugh. I don't like red herring for breakfast.
2012-12-29 08:49:42 AM
1 votes:

kinkkerbelle: The way NaitiveDaughter is talking, she believes that a woman has a god-given right to get blackout drunk and walk around a biker bar wearing a see-thru thong bikini with complete impunity, and if something does happen to her she bears absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for putting herself in that situation.

It would be nice if that was the kind of world we lived in, where everyone was decent and respected everyone else's rights, and never took advantage of them when they let their guard down. It would be nice if we lived in a world where we could leave our front doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition of our cars.

But we don't live in that world. We live in a world inhabited by (a small number) of monsters and predators, and we ignore that fact to our own peril. Ultimately, you have to look out for yourself and take responsibility for your safety and your own actions. Furthermore, the law recognizes this fact by saying that we don't get to play the victim card (or at least only get to play it for reduced value) if we willfully abdicate our responsibility to take reasonable precautions.

I would feel perfectly safe walking around a biker bar in a see through bikini. Have you ever known a biker? Hung out with them? No? Then shut the fark up.

Rape is more about power and control than sexual desire. A rapist gets off on degrading another human being. What the victim is wearing doesn't really matter as much as you think. Every person deserves to be not-raped at all times, even if they are drunk and wearing sexy clothes.  You are using the same rationalization to justify a rape as a rapist would.


I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.
2012-12-29 08:46:30 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: MmmmBacon: Silly Jesus: MmmmBacon: Just a thought: Can we apply pressure on India economically to straighten their act out on rape and related crimes against women, by applying pressure on multinational companies that do business there? Basically, refuse to purchase products from Multinational X because they produce their products in India, or have call-centers there, etc. And in boycotting these companies, make sure they know exactly why they have lost your business. Then, if they are damaged enough through direct loss of sales or indirect loss of income due to bad PR, perhaps these companies will pull out of India or put pressure on the Indian government to take these cases seriously?

Not likely, of course, but trying to do something to effect change is better than thinking good thoughts and wishing the rape-gangs away, no?

Perhaps we could use unicorns to speed up the process.

Care to offer a better suggestion on how someone here can try to affect change there? Or are you the type who thinks watching Kony 2012 and hoping children in Africa aren't killed anymore will make a difference? Because if you have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.

No, I don't think that there will be a difference made. There are lots of folks over there and I don't realistically think that anything that we do here can significantly change their population to any significant degree. It's largely a shiathole third world clusterfark. I understand the human desire to fix everything, but some things just can't be fixed.


Perhaps so, but standing by and writing off a whole society because of the horrific actions of some and the complicit actions of their government, seems almost as wrong in my book.
2012-12-29 08:44:36 AM
1 votes:

Strongbeerrules: Well, that's it. I'm boycotting the Tata Nano.

Seriously, what has this culture given the world besides bad food and a caste system?


Bad food? WTF are you on about? I had Indian buffet for lunch yesterday and it was awesome.
2012-12-29 08:34:56 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: MmmmBacon: Just a thought: Can we apply pressure on India economically to straighten their act out on rape and related crimes against women, by applying pressure on multinational companies that do business there? Basically, refuse to purchase products from Multinational X because they produce their products in India, or have call-centers there, etc. And in boycotting these companies, make sure they know exactly why they have lost your business. Then, if they are damaged enough through direct loss of sales or indirect loss of income due to bad PR, perhaps these companies will pull out of India or put pressure on the Indian government to take these cases seriously?

Not likely, of course, but trying to do something to effect change is better than thinking good thoughts and wishing the rape-gangs away, no?

Perhaps we could use unicorns to speed up the process.


Care to offer a better suggestion on how someone here can try to affect change there? Or are you the type who thinks watching Kony 2012 and hoping children in Africa aren't killed anymore will make a difference? Because if you have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
2012-12-29 07:20:48 AM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Third world people problems.


Troll now put on ignore problems.

Goodbye, you POS.
2012-12-29 07:15:08 AM
1 votes:
I hate an awful lot of you f*ckers right now.
2012-12-29 07:08:26 AM
1 votes:

whatshisname: heap: not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.

Having been on a few Indian buses - there is no rear-view mirror, and the driver may or may not be a municipal employee. It's bedlam, with 147 people on a bus designed for 60.


It was private bus.

Also, the farktards trying to make this about Islam, and not rape, should diaf.

/Hindu and Indian
2012-12-29 06:15:26 AM
1 votes:

ArkAngel: I find it disturbing that we've had an "India gang rape" trifecta this week


That`s only because three were greenlit. There are many many more than that every single week. I saw a ted talk that said about one four year old girl who was found in a gutter with her organs hanging outside her body after being gang raped. She got aids and is dead now.

Anyone who suggests that these women and children are partly at fault because of how they look should be beaten with a rubber hose until they die because they look like a wanker to me.
2012-12-29 05:29:38 AM
1 votes:

duffblue: Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next


Muslims have done plenty of stupid, violent stuff, but pointing out that India is mostly Hindu isn't 'defending Islam'.

And, what do YOU do when Christians or Jews...or Hindus... do stupid, violent things?

Pretend it never happened?

Religious folks seem to be good at that...
2012-12-29 05:20:54 AM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: There is absolutely no evidence that any religion had anything at all to do with this.  NONE.  But you are such a farking moron that you will always find some excuse to blame religion, especially Islam, even if every single fact says otherwise.


Both Hindus and Muslims use roaming rape gangs as a form of intimidation and local terrorism in India. The Hindus target non-Hindu, and Muslims target non-Muslims. We don't know that this incident was such a case. But it's not like the mention of religiously motivated rape in India is completely off base either.
2012-12-29 05:04:27 AM
1 votes:
Reading this thread feels like watching Fark burn.

/Nero was a troll too
2012-12-29 03:05:03 AM
1 votes:

ZeroPly: scubamage: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

Most likely not. The country is 80% Hindu.

According to the CIA:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1%


If Bernie Silverstein and Laquanda Jones rob a bank in the US, you don't have to assume that they're both white and Christian. Anyways, based on last names:

Ram Singh - Sikh
Mukesh Singh - Sikh
Vinay Sharma - Hindu
Pawan Gupta - Hindu or Jain
Akshay Thakur - HIndu
Raju - no way to tell

Bear in mind that many Hindu families who have converted to Christianity keep their names, so they might be Christian as well. Hate to rain on the parade, but it looks like a multidenominational gang-rape squad...


Just for the record, the last name Singh is often Sikh, but doesn't have to be; there are Hindus also with Singh as a last name. And Raju is almost certainly Hindu. Christians are a very small part of the population in northern India, so statistically speaking it's unlikely that any of the attackers are Christian.

How do things like this happen? It might have started out very simply with the asshole attackers deciding to make assumptions about how "easy" the woman was since she was out at night with just her boyfriend, and no other family member as chaperone. Understand that dating as we know it in the western world is still pretty uncommon over most of India, so being in a big city like Delhi (which already is known for sexual harassment issues) is no shield from, shall we say, provincial attitudes. And over there, the religious/moral conservatives tend also to be Hindu nationalists (see for example this over-the-top diatribe on Valentine's Day by a Hindu nationalist group).

India is a big country, with many diverse subcultures. But common themes, especially among the more "village-minded," are the second-class status of women, and a certain societal disregard or fatalistic attitude about the value of individual lives.

As an American woman traveling in northern India for work, including some places off the usual tourist routes, I was outwardly accorded a greater degree of respect than my female Indian colleagues (yay for the lingering cultural effects of British imperialism). But I was also warned not to go out by myself, not to look too directly at people I was unacquainted with, and for damn sure not to smile at anyone I didn't already know. These latter two things apparently are interpreted as a come-on, even moreso for someone like me since, of course, it is well-known how loose the morals of western women are. /sarcasm

I wish the women of India well, but I'm afraid that ultimately these protests will go nowhere, since for now the folks in power don't know how else to be, with literally centuries of social conservatism ingrained in the general culture.
2012-12-29 02:46:09 AM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: RedVentrue: Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.

Sort of..

Patriarchy is also woven into most major religions, and can hang on even after religion is shed(as in the US, but we're improving * crosses fingers *).

Not the same thing, but often so entwined as to be not necessarily distinct from eachother.


Right! In this case, however, Hindu religion teaches respect for women, the culture is what is repressive. I believe this is due to 800 years or so of Muslim rule. Abrahamic religions ARE repressive towards women, and have been throughout their history.
2012-12-29 02:38:40 AM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: The problem is the police generally refuse to do anything and say the woman are whores so they deserved it.


So, not much different than the USA, in other words.
2012-12-29 02:37:36 AM
1 votes:

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: scubamage: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

Most likely not. The country is 80% Hindu.

According to the CIA:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1%

Yes. The Muslim part of India is called Pakistan.


Oh dear...

Pakistan hasn't been the "Muslim part of India" since 1947.

India: When on a given day you are making Pakistan look good, you are doing something really wrong.
2012-12-29 02:37:11 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

This is the reaction in India.

In this country the reaction would have been: "She shouldn't have been where she was."
"She told them 'no' but she meant 'yes.' "

"She should have been packin' heat."
2012-12-29 02:31:49 AM
1 votes:

ZeroPly: Ram Singh - Sikh
Mukesh Singh - Sikh
Vinay Sharma - Hindu
Pawan Gupta - Hindu or Jain
Akshay Thakur - HIndu
Raju - no way to tell


A Singh could easily be Hindu. It's a fairly common name for Rajputs and other Kshatriya ("warrior") castes. That's one of the reasons the Sikhs adopted it.
But otherwise, from their employment and home towns, they appear to be a pretty diverse group. Not even real gangbangers, just some random guys who got drunk and decided to go wilding. They apparently stole the bus and used it to troll for victims...
2012-12-29 02:27:39 AM
1 votes:

JohnAnnArbor: Chinchillazilla: OgreMagi: scubamage: Latinwolf: scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.

You forgot the part about them penetrating her with a foreign object, a pipe I think, which is what really messed up her internal organs.

I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.

I don't consider anyone who would do such a horrific thing as human.  So it's ok to put them down, the same as you put down a rabid dog.

Yes. Then burn the corpses.

No, that's what's normally done over there. Grind them into fish food or something.


Good point. Feed them to rats and stray dogs in the street.

I'm normally compassionate and peaceful, but I would go Hellraiser on these bastards. I think I could be pretty creative.
2012-12-29 02:13:03 AM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: They have 6 suspects. Who know's if it's the right guys, or 6 random guys off the street to sate the public outrage.


The Times of India reports that two have confessed and one was identified by the male beating victim, and they probably named the others to save their own skins.
2012-12-29 02:04:54 AM
1 votes:
Fark this shiat. Fark it all to hell. I hope the people will keep making a huge stink over this until their society and culture will not accept this kind of crap anymore. I had no idea until recently this kind of repugnant behavior was remotely tolerated over there. I've always wanted to see India, but shiat like this makes me think twice. Ugh.
2012-12-29 01:57:58 AM
1 votes:

sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.


I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?
2012-12-29 01:45:44 AM
1 votes:

TigersorHawksorBoth: fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.

nah, death penalty for those who kill several people.


So several pieces of sh8t could gang rape and beat your daughter to death, on a bus, and you'd be cool with them only getting life in prison as long as they didn't shoot the bus driver to death, too?

F*ck that. If it's in your being to be able to do this to another human being, we don't need your services on this planet anymore......and I damned sure shouldn't have to pay to feed, clothe, house and even "protect" you until you die of natural causes.
2012-12-29 01:40:02 AM
1 votes:

cmb53208: India is the pinnacle of civilization, and we should especially follow their lead on women's rights and honest government!


And yet it's fine for frat boys in a country now famous for their mass murders of children to make ignorant, ill-informed judgments on a country they have no clue about?
2012-12-29 01:39:06 AM
1 votes:

scubamage: omeganuepsilon: scubamage: It sounds like the inmate code is alive and well in Indian jails at least.

A lot of people don't condone stuff like that, but if it's so bad that other criminals won't tolerate it, maybe the actual punishment could be a bit worse.

There's basically an inmate code of behavior that exists among prisoners across several countries that dictates inmate behavior. It's kind of fascinating, actually. Murder-rapists/rapists/incest committers/pedophiles are usually viewed as "bottoms" in prisons and get the living fark beaten out of them. Remember when Jeffrey Dahmer got impaled on a broom? Yeah. That sort of thing. I knew it was a common western thing, but from the sounds of it it may carry over into Eastern prisons as well.


I knew that, that's why I commented. Though the way I heard it told it's not so much violence as straight up murder. I knew an alleged, "creeper". The label comes from how you creep up on them and flip them over the balcony rail.

I can see where assault instead of murder would be preferable though(except for lifers). 20 years ago when I first heard about it (construction job with an ex-con).... You can get away with less than you use to be able to in that regard.
2012-12-29 01:37:29 AM
1 votes:

REO-Weedwagon: How was she dressed?


She was wearing those tiny shorts that say "Rape Me" on the butt.

Not sure if serious....
2012-12-29 01:37:11 AM
1 votes:

mayIFark: cmb53208: Can't we all agree that India is a backward, disease-riddden shiatthole? Why do we outsource jobs to these asswipes again?

Lost your job to one of the indian call centers?

It was a horrible crime, and a very sad event. Treat it like that. trying to define a country by the action of a few (or that idiotic event to define a religion that has nothing to do with it) is not helpful to anyone.

PEOPLE, THIS IS A VERY SAD AND TERRIBLE EVENT. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO BEND IT TO GET TO YOUR AGENDA.


You're right, we should just ignore the gang rapes, acid throwings, caste system, and the fact the majority of people over there dont gave access to vasic sanitation even though the nation has nuclear weapons. India is the pinnacle of civilization, and we should especially follow their lead on women's rights and honest government!
2012-12-29 01:36:52 AM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: The guys who did this are now being charged with murder.


Hopefully they will be sentenced to death by bunga.
2012-12-29 01:35:03 AM
1 votes:
Why would it be a desirable thing to let the culprits keep living? What is the payoff?
2012-12-29 01:31:24 AM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: scubamage: It sounds like the inmate code is alive and well in Indian jails at least.

A lot of people don't condone stuff like that, but if it's so bad that other criminals won't tolerate it, maybe the actual punishment could be a bit worse.


There's basically an inmate code of behavior that exists among prisoners across several countries that dictates inmate behavior. It's kind of fascinating, actually. Murder-rapists/rapists/incest committers/pedophiles are usually viewed as "bottoms" in prisons and get the living fark beaten out of them. Remember when Jeffrey Dahmer got impaled on a broom? Yeah. That sort of thing. I knew it was a common western thing, but from the sounds of it it may carry over into Eastern prisons as well.
2012-12-29 01:18:05 AM
1 votes:

gblive: I would urge everyone to read the Wikipedia summary to get the correct background information on this case:

2012 Delhi gang rape case


From that summary, "Mukesh Singh (one of the attackers), who was placed in Tihar Jail after his arrest, was assaulted by other inmates and reportedly forced to consume human excreta and urine."  Pity that was the worse thing that happened to him.  And based on what the politicians are saying, that's all that will happen because they like to protect scum like this.
2012-12-29 01:13:51 AM
1 votes:
I would urge everyone to read the Wikipedia summary to get the correct background information on this case:

2012 Delhi gang rape case
2012-12-29 01:11:15 AM
1 votes:
Maximum Derp Level Attained. Thread over.
2012-12-29 01:08:28 AM
1 votes:

duffblue: Latinwolf: duffblue: Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next

Another idiot heard from.

I guess pointing out the obvious makes me an idiot. Whatever helps you sleep at night. You probably voted for Romney anyway


You just confirmed that you are a moron by claiming it's obvious when any intelligent person knows that there's a difference between pointing out a person is wrong for claiming a particular religion is at fault without kind of proof, as the case here and actually defending said religion, which no one actually did here. You're on the same level as those white bigots who throw the label "ni**er lover" at other people for not hating black folks the way they do.
2012-12-29 01:05:35 AM
1 votes:

whatshisname: Latinwolf: I was gonna make a comment about them being animals but then realized it would be insulting to actual animals.

For fark's sake, does pointing fingers and calling other cultures make you feel a whole lot better? How does 20 dead pre-school kids stack up against this crime?


It's not the crime, it's the lack of reaction and the vast amounts of "blame the victim" that's totally disgusting.

That's what happens when religion and such morals infect government.
2012-12-29 01:02:54 AM
1 votes:
Can't we all agree that India is a backward, disease-riddden shiatthole? Why do we outsource jobs to these asswipes again?
2012-12-29 12:56:45 AM
1 votes:
"This is a very sensitive crime, I have taken it very seriously," said Paramjit Singh Gill, a top police officer in the city of Patiala.

So seriously, in fact, that you waited a month before doing anything. One wonders if the victim hadn't drawn media scrutiny by killing herself if any action would have been taken.
2012-12-29 12:56:33 AM
1 votes:

whatshisname: Latinwolf: I was gonna make a comment about them being animals but then realized it would be insulting to actual animals.

For fark's sake, does pointing fingers and calling other cultures make you feel a whole lot better? How does 20 dead pre-school kids stack up against this crime?


We've had many threads for them.  This one is for the woman who was gang-raped brutally in India.  Please stop trying to derail it further.
2012-12-29 12:56:30 AM
1 votes:

studebaker hoch: gangnam style?


Indeed.

i.imgur.com

/are there any subs out yet?
2012-12-29 12:55:17 AM
1 votes:

mayIFark: atomicmask: bulldg4life: atomicmask: moralpanic: WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?

This is the hallmark of islam, rape squads used to intimidate the local populous into following sharia law.

You are trying very hard to blame Islam when there is no indication that it was involved in any way, shape, or form in a country that is dominantly Hindu.

Why are you such a goddamn idiot?

And if they release the names and religions of the individuals involved, and they turn out to be muslim, would you be willing to admit you are wrong and accept islam is not as peace and love as you think it is? Would you be willing to admit that islam DOES use rape squads?

Names are already released.

Given the nature of your posts, its pretty clear that you decided to ignore those and just trying to spread your hatred, hoping that someone will be idiot enough to believe you.

/BTW, if you are trolling, good job.
//Actually great job.
///But if you are serious, go see a doctor before heading toward an elementary school.


On the plus side:

Mukesh Singh, who was placed in Tihar Jail after his arrest, was assaulted by other inmates and reportedly forced to consume human excreta and urine. Following the incident, jail authorities placed him in solitary confinement for his own protection.
2012-12-29 12:52:27 AM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: scubamage: Latinwolf: scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.

You forgot the part about them penetrating her with a foreign object, a pipe I think, which is what really messed up her internal organs.

I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.

I don't consider anyone who would do such a horrific thing as human.  So it's ok to put them down, the same as you put down a rabid dog.


I was gonna make a comment about them being animals but then realized it would be insulting to actual animals.
2012-12-29 12:52:00 AM
1 votes:

Strongbeerrules: Well, that's it. I'm boycotting the Tata Nano.

Seriously, what has this culture given the world besides bad food and a caste system?


Beautiful women. But apparently they don't deserve them.
2012-12-29 12:51:19 AM
1 votes:

duffblue: Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next


Another idiot heard from.
2012-12-29 12:47:26 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.


No need to kill them when we have pineapples available.
2012-12-29 12:45:29 AM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: gblive: Danack: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.


I don't think the Fark Misogyny Brigade need to get involved here, when the son of India's president already said:

"Those who are coming in the name of students in the rallies, sundori, sundori mahila (beautiful women), are highly dented and painted," Abhijit Mukherjee, an MP from Jangipur seat which the President had vacated before his election, told a vernacular news channel.

"Giving interviews in TV and showing off their children. I wonder whether they are students at all," he said, adding, "what's basically happening in Delhi is something like pink revolution, which has very little connection with ground realities."

Sadly nearly half of the politicians in India support the position that the woman on the bus was a whore and deserved it. The politicians are also saying all the women demonstrators are also whores who spend their time in discotheques.... and a bunch of other absurd claims. Unfortunately this is how women are treated and viewed in India.

When the path to justice is blocked by a wall of the government's creation to allow the criminals to prey upon the innocent, it is time to shed innocence and rise up against the criminals and their protectors.


The basic problem in India is that there is never any consequences for the attackers in any of these gang rape assaults. Each and every time they walk and no justice occurs. The women in India have had enough and are now protesting in the streets. And what do you ask is the reaction of the Indian government? They sent riot police to go beat the peaceful protestors - while many politicians called the female protestors all sorts of names,
2012-12-29 12:45:15 AM
1 votes:

scubamage: Latinwolf: scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.

You forgot the part about them penetrating her with a foreign object, a pipe I think, which is what really messed up her internal organs.

I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.


I don't consider anyone who would do such a horrific thing as human.  So it's ok to put them down, the same as you put down a rabid dog.
2012-12-29 12:44:00 AM
1 votes:

Latinwolf: scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.

You forgot the part about them penetrating her with a foreign object, a pipe I think, which is what really messed up her internal organs.


I wish that had remained forgotten. Fark. :(
Shiat like this makes me ashamed to be a human being.
2012-12-29 12:43:53 AM
1 votes:

gblive: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

All the people involved were Hindus, not Muslims.


To a bigot, all "brownies" look alike.
2012-12-29 12:43:24 AM
1 votes:
makes me literally weep for humanity

we are so farked
2012-12-29 12:42:20 AM
1 votes:

scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.


You forgot the part about them penetrating her with a foreign object, a pipe I think, which is what really messed up her internal organs.
2012-12-29 12:42:04 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x290]

But do you listen? NO!


cf.shacknews.com
2012-12-29 12:40:28 AM
1 votes:

gblive: Danack: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.


I don't think the Fark Misogyny Brigade need to get involved here, when the son of India's president already said:

"Those who are coming in the name of students in the rallies, sundori, sundori mahila (beautiful women), are highly dented and painted," Abhijit Mukherjee, an MP from Jangipur seat which the President had vacated before his election, told a vernacular news channel.

"Giving interviews in TV and showing off their children. I wonder whether they are students at all," he said, adding, "what's basically happening in Delhi is something like pink revolution, which has very little connection with ground realities."

Sadly nearly half of the politicians in India support the position that the woman on the bus was a whore and deserved it. The politicians are also saying all the women demonstrators are also whores who spend their time in discotheques.... and a bunch of other absurd claims. Unfortunately this is how women are treated and viewed in India.


When the path to justice is blocked by a wall of the government's creation to allow the criminals to prey upon the innocent, it is time to shed innocence and rise up against the criminals and their protectors.
2012-12-29 12:38:48 AM
1 votes:

duffblue: Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next


It must really piss you off that people aren't auto-blaming Islam for this...
2012-12-29 12:38:06 AM
1 votes:
I'm late to hearing the news here. Did "Bang Bus: India" go awry or something?
2012-12-29 12:37:46 AM
1 votes:

Danack: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.


I don't think the Fark Misogyny Brigade need to get involved here, when the son of India's president already said:

"Those who are coming in the name of students in the rallies, sundori, sundori mahila (beautiful women), are highly dented and painted," Abhijit Mukherjee, an MP from Jangipur seat which the President had vacated before his election, told a vernacular news channel.

"Giving interviews in TV and showing off their children. I wonder whether they are students at all," he said, adding, "what's basically happening in Delhi is something like pink revolution, which has very little connection with ground realities."


Sadly nearly half of the politicians in India support the position that the woman on the bus was a whore and deserved it. The politicians are also saying all the women demonstrators are also whores who spend their time in discotheques.... and a bunch of other absurd claims. Unfortunately this is how women are treated and viewed in India.
2012-12-29 12:36:13 AM
1 votes:
Lots of people jumping up to defend Islam in this thread and then bashing Christianity and Judaism in the next
2012-12-29 12:31:59 AM
1 votes:

scubamage: kxs401: scubamage: heap: not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.

Either the driver didn't care, or he saw the other guy on the bus get nearly beaten to death for trying to intervene and decided to keep his mouth shut. Now why he wouldn't pull up in front of a police station and get help, that I can't answer.

I thought the driver raped her, too?

From what I heard on NPR (this could be old/misremembered, I didn't like listening to the story for long so I switched off a lot of the analysis) the driver kept driving, and the rape took place over tens of miles (at least 20 and change) while he was doing so.


I'm also going off possibly misremembered news stories, so I don't actually know. Either way, he should be strung up by his big toes.
2012-12-29 12:30:36 AM
1 votes:

kxs401: scubamage: heap: not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.

Either the driver didn't care, or he saw the other guy on the bus get nearly beaten to death for trying to intervene and decided to keep his mouth shut. Now why he wouldn't pull up in front of a police station and get help, that I can't answer.

I thought the driver raped her, too?


From what I heard on NPR (this could be old/misremembered, I didn't like listening to the story for long so I switched off a lot of the analysis) the driver kept driving, and the rape took place over tens of miles (at least 20 and change) while he was doing so.
2012-12-29 12:29:56 AM
1 votes:
I can't even imagine what those poor woman's last minutes of consciousness were like. It's nauseating to think about.
2012-12-29 12:28:09 AM
1 votes:
Why are there so many people trolling this thread. Someone dies and the troll force gets stronger? Yeah, I know welcome to Fark. I guess I'm just lucky people aren't talking about her being a murderer if she had gotten pregnant then died before giving birth to her rape baby or something stupid like that.

The bus driver should get the worst punishment. How do you just keep driving around for an hour while someone on your bus gets raped and beaten with an iron bar? Do buses in Delhi not have radios that can be used to phone authorities? Are there no police stations nearby that you can drive to? The whole thing is just messed up.
2012-12-29 12:27:55 AM
1 votes:

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.


I don't think the Fark Misogyny Brigade need to get involved here, when the son of India's president already said:

"Those who are coming in the name of students in the rallies, sundori, sundori mahila (beautiful women), are highly dented and painted," Abhijit Mukherjee, an MP from Jangipur seat which the President had vacated before his election, told a vernacular news channel.

"Giving interviews in TV and showing off their children. I wonder whether they are students at all," he said, adding, "what's basically happening in Delhi is something like pink revolution, which has very little connection with ground realities."
2012-12-29 12:22:20 AM
1 votes:

heap: not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.


Having been on a few Indian buses - there is no rear-view mirror, and the driver may or may not be a municipal employee. It's bedlam, with 147 people on a bus designed for 60.
2012-12-29 12:22:18 AM
1 votes:

moralpanic: WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?


Gang rapes and the abuse of women has been going on for a long time in India. It only gained attention internationally in the past couple of weeks due to all of the protests. Generally women are treated as second class citizens in India and the police refuse to take reports when they claim to have been raped (as happened in this case).
2012-12-29 12:21:46 AM
1 votes:

moralpanic: WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?


They are top heavy with men. In many Asian societies having a daughter is not preferred. Now, after a couple generations, the chickens are coming home to roost, so to speak, and it's a yard full of cocks. The religious (and/or political) repression, the grinding poverty and the lack of possibility of marriage and sexual release are factors these governments may not survive.

In this case, it is about the sex, but there's more.


/legitimate?
2012-12-29 12:19:38 AM
1 votes:
not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

hell, even Ms Crabtree would have tried the 'stop raping her, or i kill this cow' routine.
2012-12-29 12:18:54 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x290]

But do you listen? NO!


Custer? Damn near killed...oh...
2012-12-29 12:18:38 AM
1 votes:

whatshisname: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

You might want to check your geography. Also see "partition"


And he could stand to look in a mirror if he follows any religion himself.
2012-12-29 12:16:51 AM
1 votes:
scubamage: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: In before the Fark Misogyny Brigade to tell how us how she was totally asking for it for riding on a bus like that, and that women are all just lying whores anyway.

This whole story just makes me sick. I'm sad she died. I was pulling for her to make it.

It's going to be a hard sell for the misogynists to spin this one. She was on a bus with a male friend, strangers went after her, male friend tried to get them away and they assaulted him. She gets gang raped over the course of several miles on the bus, then she and male friend are dumped bloody and naked from the vehicle.

I don't have anything witty to say. Those guys deserve to die.


You should ignore trolls of any stripe.
2012-12-29 12:16:25 AM
1 votes:
That's a traditional area. Eye for an eye, right? Put a iron rod in each one of them and use it to rough them up. Sounds about right.
2012-12-29 12:15:58 AM
1 votes:
I'm generally not for the death penalty, but I see no problem with locking the scumball rapists handcuffed in a room with several dozen women with sharpened rusty spoons.
2012-12-29 12:15:19 AM
1 votes:
WTF? What's with all the gang rapes happening in India the last few weeks?
2012-12-29 12:15:10 AM
1 votes:
The guys who did this are now being charged with murder.
2012-12-29 12:14:55 AM
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

But do you listen? NO!
 
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