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2012-12-29 08:49:42 AM

kinkkerbelle: The way NaitiveDaughter is talking, she believes that a woman has a god-given right to get blackout drunk and walk around a biker bar wearing a see-thru thong bikini with complete impunity, and if something does happen to her she bears absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for putting herself in that situation.

It would be nice if that was the kind of world we lived in, where everyone was decent and respected everyone else's rights, and never took advantage of them when they let their guard down. It would be nice if we lived in a world where we could leave our front doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition of our cars.

But we don't live in that world. We live in a world inhabited by (a small number) of monsters and predators, and we ignore that fact to our own peril. Ultimately, you have to look out for yourself and take responsibility for your safety and your own actions. Furthermore, the law recognizes this fact by saying that we don't get to play the victim card (or at least only get to play it for reduced value) if we willfully abdicate our responsibility to take reasonable precautions.

I would feel perfectly safe walking around a biker bar in a see through bikini. Have you ever known a biker? Hung out with them? No? Then shut the fark up.

Rape is more about power and control than sexual desire. A rapist gets off on degrading another human being. What the victim is wearing doesn't really matter as much as you think. Every person deserves to be not-raped at all times, even if they are drunk and wearing sexy clothes.  You are using the same rationalization to justify a rape as a rapist would.


I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.
 
2012-12-29 08:50:54 AM

Silly Jesus: dready zim: ArkAngel: I find it disturbing that we've had an "India gang rape" trifecta this week

That`s only because three were greenlit. There are many many more than that every single week. I saw a ted talk that said about one four year old girl who was found in a gutter with her organs hanging outside her body after being gang raped. She got aids and is dead now.

Anyone who suggests that these women and children are partly at fault because of how they look should be beaten with a rubber hose until they die because they look like a wanker to me.

The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.


Is there some part of Chapelle's skit where he says it is ok to rape a whore?

Cause otherwise his bit has nothing to do with blaming women for rape based on their dress.
 
2012-12-29 08:51:09 AM

MmmmBacon: Silly Jesus: MmmmBacon: Silly Jesus: MmmmBacon: Just a thought: Can we apply pressure on India economically to straighten their act out on rape and related crimes against women, by applying pressure on multinational companies that do business there? Basically, refuse to purchase products from Multinational X because they produce their products in India, or have call-centers there, etc. And in boycotting these companies, make sure they know exactly why they have lost your business. Then, if they are damaged enough through direct loss of sales or indirect loss of income due to bad PR, perhaps these companies will pull out of India or put pressure on the Indian government to take these cases seriously?

Not likely, of course, but trying to do something to effect change is better than thinking good thoughts and wishing the rape-gangs away, no?

Perhaps we could use unicorns to speed up the process.

Care to offer a better suggestion on how someone here can try to affect change there? Or are you the type who thinks watching Kony 2012 and hoping children in Africa aren't killed anymore will make a difference? Because if you have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.

No, I don't think that there will be a difference made. There are lots of folks over there and I don't realistically think that anything that we do here can significantly change their population to any significant degree. It's largely a shiathole third world clusterfark. I understand the human desire to fix everything, but some things just can't be fixed.

Perhaps so, but standing by and writing off a whole society because of the horrific actions of some and the complicit actions of their government, seems almost as wrong in my book.


It's just reality. Harder for some to swallow than others.
 
2012-12-29 08:56:58 AM

kinkkerbelle: Rape is more about power and control than sexual desire. A rapist gets off on degrading another human being. What the victim is wearing doesn't really matter as much as you think. Every person deserves to be not-raped at all times, even if they are drunk and wearing sexy clothes. You are using the same rationalization to justify a rape as a rapist would.


If I left my car unlocked with a laptop in the front seat and it was stolen, somebody pointing out that it probably wouldn't have happened if my door was locked and the laptop not visible isn't rationalizing the theft.

In short, he isn't rationalizing anything.

And rape is about sexual desire. Some people get sexual desire from control.
 
2012-12-29 09:08:25 AM
You can't show that much ankle and not expect to be brutally gang raped and left for dead. Obviously she was asking for it.
 
2012-12-29 09:10:39 AM
he should be strung up by his big toes.

he should be strung up by his big toes penis.

All offending parts should be taken, namely penis, both hands, and both eyes. Then they should have a tattooed statement placed apon their forehead stating the nature of their crime, then they should be let go to make what they can out of the rest of their short miserable lives.


Human-like type detected
 
2012-12-29 09:39:07 AM
I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.

Ugh. I don't like red herring for breakfast.
 
2012-12-29 09:39:35 AM

Silly Jesus: The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.


It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.
 
2012-12-29 09:52:21 AM

kinkkerbelle: I also "deserve" to be able to walk through the slums of Rio at 3a.m. wearing a Rolex, but that doesn't mean that I'm magically immune from any criticism when I am robbed and beaten to a bloody pulp, or worse. I don't get the mentality that excuses someone of all personal responsibility if something bad happens to them. Decisions that we make have consequences. Understanding that isn't condoning robbery (as above) or rape.

Ugh. I don't like red herring for breakfast.


Ugh, I like totally love sidestepping a valid point for breakfast.
 
2012-12-29 09:53:44 AM

swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus: The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.


Missed the point.

There are things that one can do to minimize their risk of X. Pointing out that someone didn't take these steps isn't the same as condoning X.
 
2012-12-29 09:55:42 AM

atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.


Weirdly Islam gets most of it's ideas for the shiatty treatment of women from Leviticus.

Themoreyouknow.jpeg
 
2012-12-29 09:57:05 AM

swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus:

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.


a thousand times This! She was nice enough to give you a visual treat yet you felt the need to brutally abuse her for it.

/beat your meat ~ not the treat.
 
2012-12-29 10:11:19 AM

Maul555: gblive: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

All the people involved were Hindus, not Muslims.

do we know this? have the people been found? there are Muslims in the country... The most you can say about his statement is "maybe"...


Read the summary of the case that includes the attacker's names that I posted earlier. These are not Indian Muslim names.

2012 Delhi gang rape case

Let me ask - How long have you been completely ignorant and completely incapable of reading arrticles about the case that make it clear the attackers are not Muslim? Can you imagine the outcry in India if the attackers were Muslim - every media outlet in the country would state this in their headlines (e.g. "Six Terrorist Muslims gang rape woman on bus"). Are you just pushing your own personal agenda that all Muslims are bad?
 
2012-12-29 10:12:03 AM

cc_rider: Fark this shiat. Fark it all to hell. I hope the people will keep making a huge stink over this until their society and culture will not accept this kind of crap anymore. I had no idea until recently this kind of repugnant behavior was remotely tolerated over there. I've always wanted to see India, but shiat like this makes me think twice. Ugh.


I've been to India. There's parts there where they'll kill you for your t-shirt. It's a horrible, horrible country.
 
2012-12-29 10:26:16 AM
The Republicans were right! If a woman is rape-raped, her body automatically "shuts it all down"....permanently in this case. So, when are you lefty farkers going to admit you were wrong and apologize to the GOP?
 
2012-12-29 10:34:05 AM
Her death is unfortunate; but the song and dance number at the hospital was phenomenal...
 
2012-12-29 10:40:15 AM

sleeper2995: RedVentrue: brandent: sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.

I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?

Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.

I guess but I would still think it would be crazy difficult to get and maintain a stable erection with a girl bleed and crying. I mean hell I have never thought bloody snot bubbles looked hot. It's good she isn't suffering anymore having to smell that awful curry.


That's what the pipe was for.

/ignoring racist curry comment
 
2012-12-29 10:47:04 AM

Silly Jesus: Ugh, I like totally love sidestepping a valid point for breakfast.


You're trying to make that point against other FARKers, all of whom could be concern trolls for all you know.

Point doesn't apply in the real-life article, there's nothing the couple could have done that the larger attacking force couldn't have countered, including carrying guns. Back when civilization meant anything, we understood that sometimes this shiat happens, and the best thing to do was mount an even larger police force, round up all the bastards who committed this crime (killing whoever lays down their lives to protect them in the process), and hang them all. But today we've set the standards of civilization so impossibly high that only con artists can hope to spin a sufficiently convincing lie that pretends to meet it, then wonder why so much corruption keeps going on behind those lies and eventually spills out where the whole world can see it.
 
2012-12-29 10:56:07 AM

ravenlore: sleeper2995: RedVentrue: brandent: sleeper2995: So when I read about something like I am just dumbfounded. How does this kind of thing start off? So your sitting around with your buddies having a few beers and your like "hey man have you been laid lately?" "No!" "Yeah me either! You know what we could really go for is some Rape! and everyone together starts chanting "Yeah rape thats a good idea lets do that!" But did they catch the guys who did this? I didn't get that far into the article.

I've never actually seen a real article on the motivations for this kind of stuff. There is a great deal of historical evidence for instance that rape was used systematically during war. You defeat a village and rape the women. Spoils of war and all that plus you plant your genes in their population. That's still done today in certain areas of the world. Then there's just gang raping for "fun" apparently which is commonplace in Africa for instance. Apparently India has a serious rape problem too (not saying it's religion folks) Has anyone ever done any kind of real study on this? What exactly motivates or is the thought process here? For instance, although I think I'm quite fond of sex, it has never ever once occurred to me that "gee what would be fun would be to hurt that person...that's a real turn on". Because one must be "turned on" to do a gang rape. I've never even met someone I suspect of thinking like that. But apparently it is quite common historically and in some places/situations even today. How exactly does one get "aroused"? I know I know, rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes sure, but you still must be aroused I presume. How mentally and physiologically does that occur? Are these people different in some way? What in the world is going on here?

Not a religious problem, but a cultural problem. Any patriarchal society that restricts women's freedoms has this issue.

I guess but I would still think it would be crazy difficult to get and maintain a stable erect ...


Curry is racist?
 
2012-12-29 10:57:54 AM

liam76: And rape is about sexual desire. Some people get sexual desire from control.


That first sentence, the absolute, is what blew up the last rape thread.

Some people just want gratification and "take it" where they can, because they can.

The former is more of a psychopath, the second is more of a sociopath (or more simply retarded, that can't really be ruled out because it especially doesn't warrant the same punishment necessarily)

Yes, control is involved both times, but is not the center of the motivation in the later.
 
2012-12-29 11:04:22 AM

Trik: That poor woman and her family
Her attackers should get the death penalty
They just have to make sure the right arse-holes are prosecuted

That was an unbelievably brutal attack
These guys need to be made an example of


Hell, make them AND their families an example of. I think it's time we started taking notes on the justice systems of Communist countries and just convict them and their parents, uncles, etc. for anything the state wishes to think of (fabricate the evidence if you have to). Once people start thinking about their entire families being lined up in front of a bunch of soldiers and machine guns for this specific sort of crime, then perhaps we'll see better results than the current status quo over there
 
2012-12-29 11:10:39 AM

theBigBigEye: Trik: That poor woman and her family
Her attackers should get the death penalty
They just have to make sure the right arse-holes are prosecuted

That was an unbelievably brutal attack
These guys need to be made an example of

Hell, make them AND their families an example of. I think it's time we started taking notes on the justice systems of Communist countries and just convict them and their parents, uncles, etc. for anything the state wishes to think of (fabricate the evidence if you have to). Once people start thinking about their entire families being lined up in front of a bunch of soldiers and machine guns for this specific sort of crime, then perhaps we'll see better results than the current status quo over there


The truely demented tend to not have that sense of empathy or even love, which is why they're raping in the first place, and therefore your plan would not work.
 
2012-12-29 11:12:51 AM

muzzrphochr: swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus:

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.

a thousand times This! She was nice enough to give you a visual treat yet you felt the need to brutally abuse her for it.

/beat your meat ~ not the treat.


Yes! And 85 year old women wearing housecoats or lying prone in hospital beds need to cover the fark up! Some men are pieces of shiat and will rape anything with a place to put their dick.
 
2012-12-29 11:15:16 AM

omeganuepsilon: theBigBigEye: Trik: That poor woman and her family
Her attackers should get the death penalty
They just have to make sure the right arse-holes are prosecuted

That was an unbelievably brutal attack
These guys need to be made an example of

Hell, make them AND their families an example of. I think it's time we started taking notes on the justice systems of Communist countries and just convict them and their parents, uncles, etc. for anything the state wishes to think of (fabricate the evidence if you have to). Once people start thinking about their entire families being lined up in front of a bunch of soldiers and machine guns for this specific sort of crime, then perhaps we'll see better results than the current status quo over there

The truely demented tend to not have that sense of empathy or even love, which is why they're raping in the first place, and therefore your plan would not work.


Do it anyway, if only to make sex crimes a valid political crime (and the only valid type), since I don't believe anything else in this world is worse than that.
 
2012-12-29 11:25:02 AM

Arthur Jumbles: Phoenix_M: Maybe the women of India should go on a "sex strike" it wok in the Philippines.

I think that would only affect the "not willing to rape" menfolk.... the rapists would probably take it as a challenge.


These kinds of events don't just rest on the shoulders of the rapists, not when there's non-rapist enablers out there looking the other way.
 
2012-12-29 11:29:01 AM

Mad_Radhu: fusillade762: The protesters are demanding stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape, which is now punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

I'm generally anti-death penalty, but in this particular case I'd make an exception.

No need to kill them when we have spent fuel rods available.


FTFY
 
2012-12-29 11:37:52 AM

Silly Jesus: swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus: The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.

Missed the point.

There are things that one can do to minimize their risk of X. Pointing out that someone didn't take these steps isn't the same as condoning X.


If you were on a jury for a rape trial and the victim had dressed as you described above, would you have considered her partly to blame for the crime committed against her?
 
2012-12-29 11:40:13 AM

Bendal: Silly Jesus: swahnhennessy: Silly Jesus: The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is farking confusing. It just is. Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.

It is one thing to assume a girl is promiscuous because of how she dresses. It is quite another to rape her for it.

Missed the point.

There are things that one can do to minimize their risk of X. Pointing out that someone didn't take these steps isn't the same as condoning X.

If you were on a jury for a rape trial and the victim had dressed as you described above, would you have considered her partly to blame for the crime committed against her?


Legally? No. I might have told her to not do that again though after I convicted the guy.
 
2012-12-29 12:03:48 PM
If there ever was a job for Hothead Paisan, this is it.

www.albany.edu
 
2012-12-29 12:14:45 PM

Bendal: If you were on a jury for a rape trial and the victim had dressed as you described above, would you have considered her partly to blame for the crime committed against her?


At least you stop and ask instead of jumping on whatever Fark brigade bandwagon want's to paint everyone as some huge bigot who actually condone's rape.
 
2012-12-29 12:21:51 PM

gblive: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

All the people involved were Hindus, not Muslims.


Okay, so idol worshipers instead of idol smashers. A heathen savage is a heathen savage.
 
2012-12-29 12:35:36 PM

whatshisname: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

You might want to check your geography. Also see "partition"


What of it? Northern India tends to be Muslim. As I notice news from India, it tends to be Muslim men attacking women.
 
2012-12-29 12:44:29 PM
Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. - Ghandi

Gee, if she'd only had a gun to protect herself with ....
 
2012-12-29 12:48:05 PM
WTF, India. Seriously.
 
2012-12-29 12:51:00 PM

JustinCase: whatshisname: atomicmask: Islam, what a wonderful religion.

You might want to check your geography. Also see "partition"

What of it? Northern India tends to be Muslim. As I notice news from India, it tends to be Muslim men attacking women.


Not so much. All the news stories from India in 2012 involving the gang rape of women involved Hindu attackers.
If any of the cases involved Muslim men then you would see all the Hindu Nationalist newspapers in India with big, bold headlines stating "Muslim Terrorists gang rape innocent women". Of course since all the attacks involved Hindu men there is barely any press coverage.
 
2012-12-29 12:52:06 PM
Sure is a good piece of luck India has strict gun laws.

Why, just think: If she had had a gun, she might have hurt those poor innocent fellows, who were just out for a little innocent fun.

\\\ aisle seat, please.
 
2012-12-29 01:19:22 PM
This is not about Islam, or Hinduism, or Christianity, or any other religion.  This is about six men who felt the need to brutally rape and murder a woman for the hell of it.
 
2012-12-29 01:24:12 PM

dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still


Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...
 
2012-12-29 01:46:19 PM

PsiChick: dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still

Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...


....Or just have their army execute them and their families in the middle of the street, in public (as I mentioned above).

/Zero bureaucratic overhead
//No red tape
///IMMEDIATE political effect!
 
2012-12-29 01:55:25 PM
Impale a few rapists, Vlad-style.

Problem solved.
 
2012-12-29 01:57:26 PM

theBigBigEye: PsiChick: dickfreckle: She "passed away peacefully" with her family and officials of the Indian Embassy by her side, Dr. Kevin Loh, the chief executive of Mount Elizabeth Hospital, said in a statement.

No. No she didn't. She passed away in anger and fear. My SO was raped and it haunts her to this day.

I've always wondered if I have the skill to kill a man with my bare hands. Maybe. Maybe not. But I'd love to try. Motherf*ckers. When you rape a woman, all that tells me is that you're a weak man. Yeah, a pussy. You heard me.

/ITG, but still

Well, actually, she probably passed away under the influence of many lovely drugs. Which, if there is any competence in those hospitals, she was probably on from the point of being admitted to get rid of the pain. So her death was probably as painless as possible.

/But yeah, I'm with you
//There was a story on Fark about a year ago about a woman who cut off her rapist's head and brought it into the town square to redeem her honor. Skip the protests. Make violent retaliation for rape  on the part of the woman honorable. That might help. Or at least be untried enough to get a new reaction...

....Or just have their army execute them and their families in the middle of the street, in public (as I mentioned above).

/Zero bureaucratic overhead
//No red tape
///IMMEDIATE political effect!


The problem with that is that it removes both power and pressure from the woman. I hate to say it, but that's the reasoning behind burqas--men must avenge rape, therefore need to 'protect' women so they don't have to kill. Having the army do it doesn't change the concept.

Having the  woman, or one of her female family members do it, means the women involved have a better understanding of the situation and what the woman is going through, and leads to it being less likely that the society will demand things like burqas.

/My .02
//This actually is totally unfounded in anything other than my personal opinion, so take it as you will.
 
2012-12-29 02:07:38 PM
Heap
not that any of it makes sense, but i can't help but wonder....who in the hell looks in the rear view mirror, sees iron-rod-gang-rape, and just keeps driving?

I don't want to look up the particular article again, but Its my understanding that he participated and that he's also being charged.
 
2012-12-29 02:21:35 PM
Clyph
If I leave my car unlocked, and somebody steals it, they're still guilty of grand theft auto. But my insurance company probably isn't going to pay out either, because of my failure to take reasonable precautions to prevent the crime.

Yeah, the carelessness of that woman, being out with a male companion and boarding a bus at 9 pm.

Even if she was careless, what difference does it make? She's not getting an insurance payout. This isn't a civil case, its a criminal justice case.
 
2012-12-29 02:34:09 PM
SillyJesus
I'm going to say it yet again, because you don't get it.

There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

The fact that you start in with the "women shouldn't dress a certain way because it provokes rape" in a case where the victim died from having an iron rod RAMMED INTO HER ANUS AND BEING LITERALLY DISEMBOWELED shows you're a blithering idiot.

 Your comments about what women wear are not simply irrelevant, but downright grotesque.

How much more proof do you need that it wasn't about sexual gratification?
 
2012-12-29 02:37:36 PM

MeanJean: SillyJesus
I'm going to say it yet again, because you don't get it.

There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

The fact that you start in with the "women shouldn't dress a certain way because it provokes rape" in a case where the victim died from having an iron rod RAMMED INTO HER ANUS AND BEING LITERALLY DISEMBOWELED shows you're a blithering idiot.

 Your comments about what women wear are not simply irrelevant, but downright grotesque.

How much more proof do you need that it wasn't about sexual gratification?


Meh, you didn't pay attention to the context of my post and to who / what it was directed so I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you.
 
2012-12-29 02:43:46 PM

Silly Jesus: MeanJean: SillyJesus
I'm going to say it yet again, because you don't get it.

There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

The fact that you start in with the "women shouldn't dress a certain way because it provokes rape" in a case where the victim died from having an iron rod RAMMED INTO HER ANUS AND BEING LITERALLY DISEMBOWELED shows you're a blithering idiot.

 Your comments about what women wear are not simply irrelevant, but downright grotesque.

How much more proof do you need that it wasn't about sexual gratification?

Meh, you didn't pay attention to the context of my post and to who / what it was directed so I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you.


That's a smart move. He/she/it blew up the last rape thread.
 
2012-12-29 02:45:22 PM
SillyJesus
Meh, you didn't pay attention to the context of my post and to who / what it was directed so I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you.

Is that you, Judge Dewar?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/02/25/no-woman-asks-to-be-raped-vi ct im-slams-judges-decision/

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Justice-Dewar-removed- fr om-cases-of-sexual-nature-117193448.html

/or are you just another "clumsy Don Juan"?
 
2012-12-29 02:48:28 PM

MeanJean: SillyJesus
Meh, you didn't pay attention to the context of my post and to who / what it was directed so I'm not going to waste a lot of time with you.

Is that you, Judge Dewar?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/02/25/no-woman-asks-to-be-raped-vi ct im-slams-judges-decision/

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Justice-Dewar-removed- fr om-cases-of-sexual-nature-117193448.html

/or are you just another "clumsy Don Juan"?


I'll take the advice of omeganuepsilon.
 
2012-12-29 02:52:58 PM
I can't seem to find a good copy of the original poster this is from, so I'm going to just post it verbatim.

Don't wear make-up.
Don't wear your hair long.
Don't wear short skirts.
Don't wear high heels.
Don't wear tight-fitting clothes.
Don't look sexy.
Don't bat your eyelashes.
Don't crack dirty jokes.
Don't flirt.
Don't smile at strangers.
Don't offer to help strangers.
Don't go out at night.
Don't go to parties.
Don't go on dates.
Don't go anywhere alone.
Don't attract attention.
Don't work late.
Don't trust anyone.
Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Don't be a woman.
Don't exist.
 
2012-12-29 03:01:19 PM

MeanJean: I can't seem to find a good copy of the original poster this is from, so I'm going to just post it verbatim.

Don't wear make-up.
Don't wear your hair long.
Don't wear short skirts.
Don't wear high heels.
Don't wear tight-fitting clothes.
Don't look sexy.
Don't bat your eyelashes.
Don't crack dirty jokes.
Don't flirt.
Don't smile at strangers.
Don't offer to help strangers.
Don't go out at night.
Don't go to parties.
Don't go on dates.
Don't go anywhere alone.
Don't attract attention.
Don't work late.
Don't trust anyone.
Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Don't be a woman.
Don't exist.


Don't fart.
Don't belch.
Don't drive.
 
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