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2012-12-28 09:06:21 PM  

illannoyin: TV's Vinnie: Man, it surely must be a living Hell trying to exist in places where rightwingers rule. The posturing of dangerous cretins like this make me wish the Mayans were right.

I know right? Why can't everywhere be a paradise of safety where democrats have had total control for the last 50 years and violent crime has been eliminated.

Like Chicago or Detroit.

gingerjet:

I happen to agree with you.  But I also think its pretty fark'd up that putting armed men and women in schools is considered a rational response to the recent incident.

It's neither a new idea nor an irrational one...

April 16, 2000

WASHINGTON - Marking the first anniversary of the shooting deaths at Columbine High School, President Clinton announced $120 million in new federal grants Saturday to place more police officers in schools and help even the youngest kids cope with their problems.

"In our national struggle against youth violence we must not fail our children; our future depends on it," the president said in his weekly radio address.
...
Clinton announced $40 million in grants for 23 school districts that he said have found successful, comprehensive approaches to help troubled young people.

"These districts are bringing school nurses and counselors together to respond to warning signs like depression or bullying," Clinton said. "They are improving classroom security and expanding after-school and mentoring programs."

Clinton also unveiled the $60-million fifth round of funding for "COPS in School," a Justice Department program that helps pay the costs of placing police officers in schools to help make them safer for students and teachers. The money will be used to provide 452 officers in schools in more than 220 communities.

"Already, it has placed 2,200 officers in more than 1,000 communities across our nation, where they are heightening school safety as well as coaching sports and acting as mentors and mediators for kids in need," Clinton said.

Link


Say what you will, but at least no one in these places are saying that the solution is "tax cuts for the rich" or "Pray harder to Jesus. I SAID HARDER DAMMIT!!".
 
2012-12-28 09:06:24 PM  

Indubitably: pxlboy: Indubitably: pxlboy: Indubitably: So,

People,

Remove him.

Or,

Mr. President?

*)

The part-time residents (snowbirds) are allowed to vote. And since they seem to outnumber the sensible folks, assholes like Joe are elected by scared old white people.

Nothing will change until Joe dies, the bluehair voting bloc dies off, the feds arrest him.

I'm not holding my breath on the second or third options. Though I have heard, but cannot substantiate, that the feds have been building a case on him. But I have no idea if that's true or just a rumor.

To rumor

P.S. Rumor is gossip. Gossip is rumor. Grow up.

Why the insult? I stated outright that it is possibly a rumor. I don't have some kind of an inside track on the DoJ.

No need to be so rude.

Apologies, pxlboy.

To crusade

*)


No worries. I try not to say anything I know to be demonstrably false because I'd rather not have to wear that egg on my face.
 
2012-12-28 09:06:35 PM  
When I read the headline I wanted to make a comment about the old west posse. Then I read the article and realized for the first time that his county has warped back in time.
 
2012-12-28 09:06:50 PM  
I sure hope it isn't the same think tank that i saw at the press conference. "we have evidence that the files were inside a computer 20 minutes before being uploaded" is going to lead to lots of squirrels, birds, shadows, tumbleweeds, tan people, brown people, someone that walked in the shade getting shot on sight
 
2012-12-28 09:07:50 PM  

taurusowner: The funny thing about all of this is that guns out of school is actually a pretty new thing, becoming common only in the past 30 years or so. UP to the 50's and 60's students and teachers having firearms in school was commonplace. Students would bring hunting guns in and leave them in their lockers or cars so that they can catch as much hunting time as possible after school. Boy Scout troops would teach young children on .22lr rifles, often using school ranges. There were even shooting teams. My old high school actually has a 4 lane 25 yard range in the basement. It's since been converted to storage, but it got used for the school marksmanship team in the 60s. You don't gotta take my word for it, go ahead and ask you parents or grandparents about it sometime. Sure, every single kid didn't do it in every single school. But a lot did. I would be that if you went to a retirement home or had a chance to talk to a handful of elderly people, you would hear a story or two about hunting after school with guns they locked in the principal's office during class. It's only in the past few decades where the idea of a firearm coming near school property became shocking.


And where was electricity and tablets of knowledge then, m8?>
 
2012-12-28 09:07:56 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.


So how come you never see mass shootings at gun shows?
 
2012-12-28 09:08:05 PM  

Mad_Radhu: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

You're basically saying that a person is going to act in a rational manner when planning a rampage where they slaughter dozens of innocent people. Makes perfect sense.


There are many who believe the TSA to have a similar level of efficacy due to the lack of attempts on airplanes because, "like, the terrorists are totes leaving their bombs at home".
 
2012-12-28 09:08:39 PM  

pxlboy: Indubitably: pxlboy: Indubitably: pxlboy: Indubitably: So,

People,

Remove him.

Or,

Mr. President?

*)

The part-time residents (snowbirds) are allowed to vote. And since they seem to outnumber the sensible folks, assholes like Joe are elected by scared old white people.

Nothing will change until Joe dies, the bluehair voting bloc dies off, the feds arrest him.

I'm not holding my breath on the second or third options. Though I have heard, but cannot substantiate, that the feds have been building a case on him. But I have no idea if that's true or just a rumor.

To rumor

P.S. Rumor is gossip. Gossip is rumor. Grow up.

Why the insult? I stated outright that it is possibly a rumor. I don't have some kind of an inside track on the DoJ.

No need to be so rude.

Apologies, pxlboy.

To crusade

*)

No worries. I try not to say anything I know to be demonstrably false because I'd rather not have to wear that egg on my face.


And I love eggs, so...
 
2012-12-28 09:09:25 PM  
To egg
 
2012-12-28 09:09:43 PM  

Indubitably: taurusowner: The funny thing about all of this is that guns out of school is actually a pretty new thing, becoming common only in the past 30 years or so. UP to the 50's and 60's students and teachers having firearms in school was commonplace. Students would bring hunting guns in and leave them in their lockers or cars so that they can catch as much hunting time as possible after school. Boy Scout troops would teach young children on .22lr rifles, often using school ranges. There were even shooting teams. My old high school actually has a 4 lane 25 yard range in the basement. It's since been converted to storage, but it got used for the school marksmanship team in the 60s. You don't gotta take my word for it, go ahead and ask you parents or grandparents about it sometime. Sure, every single kid didn't do it in every single school. But a lot did. I would be that if you went to a retirement home or had a chance to talk to a handful of elderly people, you would hear a story or two about hunting after school with guns they locked in the principal's office during class. It's only in the past few decades where the idea of a firearm coming near school property became shocking.

And where was electricity and tablets of knowledge then, m8?>


The 24 hour news cycle is what. Events or people that might remain otherwise unknown to stew in their own crazy are now thrust on to the public stage for all to see and hear.
 
2012-12-28 09:10:06 PM  
Joe makes publicity whore announcement
School Superintendent says FARK NO!
Joe Arrests superintendent and places crazy old guys with guns there anyway
Parents and Superintendent Sue the county
Everyone profits except the  taxpayer
 
2012-12-28 09:10:24 PM  

Indubitably: To egg


To blave

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-28 09:10:28 PM  

Mad_Radhu: You're basically saying that a person is going to act in a rational manner when planning a rampage where they slaughter dozens of innocent people. Makes perfect sense.


You're confusing lack of morality with lack of intelligence or forethought. Try to actually research school shootings before spouting off like that. Most of them show some form of planning on the part of the shooter. A lot of planning actually. True, the shooters are sociopaths with totally broken sense of right and wrong. But that doesn't turn them into blithering idiots who can't tie their shoes. Many school shooters have had above average IQs. Looking at the steps they took to prepare for their crimes shows most put a fair amount of thought into it. Bringing backpacks of magazines and multiple weapons like Cho, waiting til the School Resource Officer was on his lunch break like at Columbine, the two kids who set up snipers nests and the pulled the fire alarms so they could take shots at the kids who came outside in groups. Terrible evil acts, but planned calculated acts nonetheless.
 
2012-12-28 09:11:07 PM  

shinji3i: Wolf_Blitzer: bigbadideasinaction: vudukungfu: Mr. Coffee Nerves: And the countdown until some poor janitor carrying a mop "in a threatening manner" gets accidentally shot 244 times starts...now

If he ain't white.

I'm waiting for concealed carry to be legal in some state like Mississippi and when the first mass shooting happens every black kid on campus ends up mistaken for the gunman.

If I were a billionaire any school with concealed or open carry would immediately get scholarships and endowments for students enrolled in the Islamic Student's marksman club. The clubhouse wouldn't have a gun safe so the students would have to be carrying them around campus. Maybe do something similar for African American students at historically white colleges too. I wonder how fast the school would create exception clauses for that.

While it would be awesome to demonstrate the gun-nut's hypocrisy, this plan also carries an extremely high risk of some poor kid getting shot.

Acceptable risk for the lulz that would be had.


I should have specified that if I were more of the evil billionaire sort, but I imagine those clubs would be shut down long before their doors open.

Alternative plans include wanting to spread "safe zones" by giving free guns to eligible urban folk living in areas bordering less urban dwellers. Meet the minimum legal requirements of your state, get a Glock, since clearly more guns would just spread the safety from the surrounding areas to there and I'm sure the neighboring residents would welcome the safety boost. Add some bonus endowments to Occupy protesters in states where it's legal carry as well. Free "Stand Your Ground" courses and legal aid in the appropriate states to the above as well.

Here's a shock to nobody - when rights are expanded for the less privileged, the privileged naturally resists them. When rights are expanded for the privileged, the first thing the privileged do is put up barriers to ensure only they get to benefit from it. Clearly people who can't normally afford or be convinced to have guns need incentives. For safety.
 
2012-12-28 09:11:09 PM  

KidneyStone: Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.

So how come you never see mass shootings at gun shows?



All the nutters are either buying, selling, or cornholing each other in the parking lot.
 
2012-12-28 09:12:46 PM  

stoli n coke: KidneyStone: Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.

So how come you never see mass shootings at gun shows?


All the nutters are either buying, selling, or cornholing each other in the parking lot.


Ah ok, so we'll mark that down as "I don't have a real answer to that question, so I'll go for an insult and hope it distracts you". Gotcha.
 
2012-12-28 09:13:02 PM  

pxlboy: Indubitably: To egg

To blave

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 830x517]


I wish.

*)
 
2012-12-28 09:14:03 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: shinji3i: Wolf_Blitzer: bigbadideasinaction: vudukungfu: Mr. Coffee Nerves: And the countdown until some poor janitor carrying a mop "in a threatening manner" gets accidentally shot 244 times starts...now

If he ain't white.

I'm waiting for concealed carry to be legal in some state like Mississippi and when the first mass shooting happens every black kid on campus ends up mistaken for the gunman.

If I were a billionaire any school with concealed or open carry would immediately get scholarships and endowments for students enrolled in the Islamic Student's marksman club. The clubhouse wouldn't have a gun safe so the students would have to be carrying them around campus. Maybe do something similar for African American students at historically white colleges too. I wonder how fast the school would create exception clauses for that.

While it would be awesome to demonstrate the gun-nut's hypocrisy, this plan also carries an extremely high risk of some poor kid getting shot.

Acceptable risk for the lulz that would be had.

I should have specified that if I were more of the evil billionaire sort, but I imagine those clubs would be shut down long before their doors open.

Alternative plans include wanting to spread "safe zones" by giving free guns to eligible urban folk living in areas bordering less urban dwellers. Meet the minimum legal requirements of your state, get a Glock, since clearly more guns would just spread the safety from the surrounding areas to there and I'm sure the neighboring residents would welcome the safety boost. Add some bonus endowments to Occupy protesters in states where it's legal carry as well. Free "Stand Your Ground" courses and legal aid in the appropriate states to the above as well.

Here's a shock to nobody - when rights are expanded for the less privileged, the privileged naturally resists them. When rights are expanded for the privileged, the first thing the privileged do is put up barriers to ensure only they get to benefit from it. ...


All of this.
 
2012-12-28 09:14:16 PM  

Diogenes: I wonder how old Joe feels about the NRA's push to allow you to shoot cops.


He's against it when he's in uniform, but for it when he's the one home alone and the Feds are kicking in his door on some kind of bogus warrant, but he's against it again when his totally upright and honest deputies are serving a completely honest warrant on scumbag illegal alien drug dealers, but for it again when a good American citizen has to defend against some n*gger, er, criminal pretending to be a "cop" does a home invasion.

He's pretty flexible that way.
 
2012-12-28 09:15:10 PM  
This will never happen. Arpaio just wanted a news cycle.
 
2012-12-28 09:15:56 PM  

sheep snorter: Sheriff joe to form a pussy possie posie pose barrier around the schools to keep all them non-whites out of the school, since we all know that only non-whites go about shooting up everything in sight....
/A dirty white guy with multiple weapons is non-white huh?


Yup, look at all these non-white mass murderers:

upload.wikimedia.org

I believe this is what the librul media would denote as "swarthy".

upload.wikimedia.org

We all know that that is not a natural hair color for a real Murcan. He must be Puerto Rican.

upload.wikimedia.org

Sodini? Don't sound Murcan enough. Is it French, or is it Italian? Perhaps Fritalian?

upload.wikimedia.org

Now here's a real Murcan who didn't shoot up nobody that din't deserve it. All he did was bring God back to the church.
 
2012-12-28 09:16:24 PM  
Where in the world would you go somewhere that a local leader calls in a bunch of armed citizens? Would that leader's title more likely be a warlord?
 
2012-12-28 09:16:45 PM  
There's a federal Gun-Free School Zones Act, Joe. Does being in a "posse" make a civilian into a bona fide "law enforcement officer"? Do the schools agree to establish a program allowing these civilians to be armed within 1,000 feet of the school grounds?
 
2012-12-28 09:17:06 PM  

taurusowner: stoli n coke: KidneyStone: Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.

So how come you never see mass shootings at gun shows?


All the nutters are either buying, selling, or cornholing each other in the parking lot.

Ah ok, so we'll mark that down as "I don't have a real answer to that question, so I'll go for an insult and hope it distracts you". Gotcha.


Tactically, it's not a smart move. Now, I realize you're saying to yourself, "Ah ha! That's the whole idea!"

I realize that what you mean is that where guns are present, crime will not be present or be so drastically reduced as to be statistically insignificant. But adding more fuel to the fire only makes it burn hotter.
 
2012-12-28 09:17:37 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Who wants armed amateurs, especially Joe's buddies, wandering around their kids' school?


I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that, of the four airliners hijacked on 9-11, the only one prevented from hitting its intended target was stopped by "amateurs". Not cops. Not military. Not politicians. Ironic, considering the fact that all four were targeted at places where people generally touch their selves whilst dreaming of the ideal police state.
 
2012-12-28 09:20:27 PM  
This could backfire on him. The average education level of Arizonans will increase, and Republicans will lose power.
 
2012-12-28 09:20:39 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Who wants armed amateurs, especially Joe's buddies, wandering around their kids' school?

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that, of the four airliners hijacked on 9-11, the only one prevented from hitting its intended target was stopped by "amateurs". Not cops. Not military. Not politicians. Ironic, considering the fact that all four were targeted at places where people generally touch their selves whilst dreaming of the ideal police state.


And despite what you've heard, America is FULL of good, thinking people ready to embrace change at a fundamentally people level. We just need to do...

Peace.
 
2012-12-28 09:21:52 PM  

CourtroomWolf: This could backfire on him. The average education level of Arizonans will increase, and Republicans will lose power.


He would likely be dead of old age before that happened. And as much as I like the idea of watching the feds perp walk him out of his house, he would likely take the coward's way out before letting it happen.
 
2012-12-28 09:22:13 PM  
Who's a Senator from Arizonawhom needs to retire?

McComplain.

*)
 
2012-12-28 09:23:01 PM  

unyon: Attention citizens:  If you're patrolling around a schoolyard with a gun, and you spot someone else with a gun, I recommend opening fire immediately.

/that oughta solve the problem


I can see this. Concerned citizen "A" calls to report a group of armed people. "I can't be sure, but they sounded foreign". Concerned citizen "B" contacts citizen patrol about the first group. Epic win?
 
2012-12-28 09:23:05 PM  
I think that Onion infographic about who deserves a cockpunch was made just for him.  Every time I see him I always say to myself, "There goes a guy who needs his dick punched in half."
 
2012-12-28 09:23:18 PM  

Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]


Keep it to Facebook please.
 
2012-12-28 09:24:29 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I think that Onion infographic about who deserves a cockpunch was made just for him.  Every time I see him I always say to myself, "There goes a guy who needs his dick punched in half."


To dickpunch-in-half
 
2012-12-28 09:24:35 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.


The colorado shooter went to the only theater out of seven within a 20 mile radius that prohibited bringing an otherwise lawfully concealed weapon into the building. Those security guards you see are not 'off-duty police' they are slightly above minimum wage and the gun is only to protect themselves, not you.
In fact, a police officer has no duty to protect you, as ruled by the supreme court of the united states. So really, you're just scared that you have to take personal responsibility for your own safety and would rather be 'dead with someone else to blame' than 'alive by your own power.'
 
2012-12-28 09:24:55 PM  

Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.


I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?
 
2012-12-28 09:27:21 PM  
brianedwardsmedia.co.nz hut hut hut hut hut hut
 
2012-12-28 09:27:42 PM  

pxlboy: Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.

I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?


How hard has it been not to point out Columbine had armed guards?
 
2012-12-28 09:27:53 PM  

IlGreven: sheep snorter: Sheriff joe to form a pussy possie posie pose barrier around the schools to keep all them non-whites out of the school, since we all know that only non-whites go about shooting up everything in sight....
/A dirty white guy with multiple weapons is non-white huh?

Yup, look at all these non-white mass murderers:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x250]

I believe this is what the librul media would denote as "swarthy".

[upload.wikimedia.org image 217x224]

We all know that that is not a natural hair color for a real Murcan. He must be Puerto Rican.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x222]

Sodini? Don't sound Murcan enough. Is it French, or is it Italian? Perhaps Fritalian?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 215x213]

Now here's a real Murcan who didn't shoot up nobody that din't deserve it. All he did was bring God back to the church.


To be fair, the hair color in #2 isn't natural for anybody. Clearly an illegal (space) alien!
 
2012-12-28 09:28:05 PM  

Securitywyrm: Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.

The colorado shooter went to the only theater out of seven within a 20 mile radius that prohibited bringing an otherwise lawfully concealed weapon into the building. Those security guards you see are not 'off-duty police' they are slightly above minimum wage and the gun is only to protect themselves, not you.
In fact, a police officer has no duty to protect you, as ruled by the supreme court of the united states. So really, you're just scared that you have to take personal responsibility for your own safety and would rather be 'dead with someone else to blame' than 'alive by your own power.'


Those exposed to guns at a younger age are more comfortable than those who are not. Some people are afraid of them, even unnaturally so. That said, I've owned pistols and am not afraid to keep and shoot one. But I also never got a CCW permit because I wasn't comfortable carrying one on my person. I feel that it can lead to self-fulfilling prophecy with regards to gun violence.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
2012-12-28 09:29:12 PM  

Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]


I know you don't actually care, but the "armed civilians" who stopped mass murders were all "actually cops, trained security officers, or military personnel-or the citizens took action after the shooting rampages appeared to have already ended. (Or in some cases, both.)"

In other words, they weren't actually armed civilians.

But whatever, you need your penis extender.
 
2012-12-28 09:29:56 PM  

Flappyhead: pxlboy: Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.

I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?

How hard has it been not to point out Columbine had armed guards?


Whether they did or not is irrelevant to what happened. Anyone determined enough to pull something like that off will do so. The Ft. Hood shooter is an example of this.
 
2012-12-28 09:30:46 PM  
If people stopped sending kids to school then they wouldn't have to worry about them getting shot in school.
 
2012-12-28 09:31:02 PM  

Flappyhead: pxlboy: Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.

I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?

How hard has it been not to point out Columbine had armed guards?



Or that Fort Hood had a shiatload of MPs and hudreds of people trained in unarmed combat?
 
2012-12-28 09:31:11 PM  

Securitywyrm: Wolf_Blitzer: taurusowner: And there's a damn good chance there won't be any mass school shootings at any of these places. Mass shooters avoid places where they know they will get stopped before accomplishing their goals. They're crazy, but most aren't stupid

There is absolutely no demonstrated evidence of this. Columbine and many other schools have armed police resource officers. Many malls, theaters etc. have off-duty police as security, who are also armed. This notion that these shooters are picking gun-free zones is nonsense.

The colorado shooter went to the only theater out of seven within a 20 mile radius that prohibited bringing an otherwise lawfully concealed weapon into the building. Those security guards you see are not 'off-duty police' they are slightly above minimum wage and the gun is only to protect themselves, not you.
In fact, a police officer has no duty to protect you, as ruled by the supreme court of the united states. So really, you're just scared that you have to take personal responsibility for your own safety and would rather be 'dead with someone else to blame' than 'alive by your own power.'


insert internet tough guy pic.
 
2012-12-28 09:31:20 PM  
Sorry, but all you farkin' apologists for facism need to check the demograph for Maricopa county. It's about as main stream as you can get in the South West, so don't go blaming all the snow birds, or the reitred fark jobs, or the veteran asswipes. The trouble with Maricopa county IS Maricopa county. Too much dick sucking or corn holing going on down there that turns a boy's thought to fascist bullying. Nothing more, nothing less. They are just bad people, who thrive off electing a qualified Neanderthal to keep those who aren't sociapathic by nature in there place. The only thing they love more than regular butt-buddies is news coverage of their homophobic vitriol. Looks like we made 'em happy again.
 
2012-12-28 09:32:01 PM  

taurusowner: Mad_Radhu: You're basically saying that a person is going to act in a rational manner when planning a rampage where they slaughter dozens of innocent people. Makes perfect sense.

You're confusing lack of morality with lack of intelligence or forethought. Try to actually research school shootings before spouting off like that. Most of them show some form of planning on the part of the shooter. A lot of planning actually. True, the shooters are sociopaths with totally broken sense of right and wrong. But that doesn't turn them into blithering idiots who can't tie their shoes. Many school shooters have had above average IQs. Looking at the steps they took to prepare for their crimes shows most put a fair amount of thought into it. Bringing backpacks of magazines and multiple weapons like Cho, waiting til the School Resource Officer was on his lunch break like at Columbine, the two kids who set up snipers nests and the pulled the fire alarms so they could take shots at the kids who came outside in groups. Terrible evil acts, but planned calculated acts nonetheless.


What I am saying is that the school shootings happened at the schools because that is where the people that they wanted to take their anger out at were located, so the armed guards will do little to deter them. These individuals want to act out their revenge fantasies and go out in a hail of gunfire. The threat of lethal force isn't going to deter someone who has basically decided to commit suicide.
 
2012-12-28 09:33:58 PM  

pxlboy: Flappyhead: pxlboy: Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.

I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?

How hard has it been not to point out Columbine had armed guards?

Whether they did or not is irrelevant to what happened. Anyone determined enough to pull something like that off will do so. The Ft. Hood shooter is an example of this.


Yeah that was my point.
 
2012-12-28 09:34:01 PM  

taurusowner: LordJiro: Guns in schools are a great idea! After all, schools are a notoriously stress-free area. No WAY could this result in a teacher shooting a few kids, or a student getting ahold of the gun and blasting themselves and/or other people!

Right wingers base their ideas around Ayn Rand, the Bible, and action movies. They have no idea how reality works..

Carry to cite any examples of licensed CCW holders getting stressed and slaughtering people?


Rodney Peairs. Don't know the specifics of his licence and don't care. He is a perfect example of the sick nature of gun lovers.
 
2012-12-28 09:34:55 PM  

Flappyhead: pxlboy: Flappyhead: pxlboy: Flappyhead: Elephantman: [cdn.firearmstalk.com image 358x358]

Keep it to Facebook please.

I have also seen this plastered all over FB lately.

Why, yes, I *do* live in a red state! How did you know?

How hard has it been not to point out Columbine had armed guards?

Whether they did or not is irrelevant to what happened. Anyone determined enough to pull something like that off will do so. The Ft. Hood shooter is an example of this.

Yeah that was my point.


Reading is fundamental. Carry on ^_^;;
 
2012-12-28 09:35:32 PM  

pxlboy: Indubitably: So,

People,

Remove him.

Or,

Mr. President?

*)

The part-time residents (snowbirds) are allowed to vote. And since they seem to outnumber the sensible folks, assholes like Joe are elected by scared old white people.

Nothing will change until Joe dies, the bluehair voting bloc dies off, the feds arrest him.

I'm not holding my breath on the second or third options. Though I have heard, but cannot substantiate, that the feds have been building a case on him. But I have no idea if that's true or just a rumor.


Ya know, I always wondered about that. Do the "snowbirds" vote locally AND via absentee ballots from their homes? If they do, isn't that .....wait for it.....voter fraud?
 
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