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2012-12-28 04:32:37 PM
5 votes:
My religion says hard hats and steel toed boots are the mark of Satan, therefore my employees are exempt from OSHA regulations.
2012-12-28 04:38:31 PM
4 votes:
i123.photobucket.com

How am I the first?
2012-12-28 03:03:12 PM
4 votes:
Hey, why not just follow your employees home to make sure they're not farking for fun?
2012-12-28 08:54:43 PM
3 votes:
I don't understand why you teabaggers have a problem with this.
The only people who will take advantage of birth control and abortion are liberals and brown people, right? You pay for enough of it and surely within a few generations this country will turn into a glorious white Jesusland.
Pay a little now, live in a glorious Fatherland later. It seems like a good investment. Call it a solution to your problems. Carry it out far enough and it might even turn into a, how to say it, final solution?
2012-12-28 05:50:31 PM
3 votes:
i2.squidoocdn.com

Holly Hobbie frowns on your shenanigans.

/I assume
2012-12-28 04:37:09 PM
3 votes:
Why don't fundamentalists have sex while standing up? They don't want anyone to think they are dancing.
2012-12-28 04:25:46 PM
3 votes:

ghare: I just spent $40 at Sam Flax instead of Hobby Lobby because of this. Tried to email them a pic of my receipt, but for some reason there doesn't appear o be a link to email them with comments on their website.


I sent money to Planned Parenthood and then posted a screenshot of my contribution receipt to Komen's Facebook page. It was deleted faster than you can say "Abortionplex".
2012-12-28 09:19:49 PM
2 votes:

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: cameroncrazy1984: CreampuffCasperMilktoast: The Democrats take control of the House (and Senate) in 2007, and coincidentally in 2007 the USPS operated at a loss for the first time in over 5 years..... but this is somehow the Republicans fault?

Um, because the new regs were put in  prior to 2007? Oh gee, that was so hard to figure out.

....and those regs would be what exactly? The point is that Government, regardless of whether the "r's" or "d's" are running the show, is not conducive to a profitable environment.... not even a "break even" environment. With only a few exceptions (wars, moon landing), nothing they do is successful. Any successes they have had is at some colossal financial loss anyway.


He said, on the internet, without feeling even the slightest twinge of irony.
2012-12-28 05:20:48 PM
2 votes:

Di Atribe: Whatever. My religion dictates that I sleep until 10am every morning. Now I'm going to make everyone do it because to me, it's the only moral thing to do.


Heathen! You have to sleep until AT LEAST noon!
2012-12-28 04:44:27 PM
2 votes:

cwolf20: On an unrelated note.

Owner with 6 employees figured up the math on providing insurance for the first time to his employees.

It'll be cheaper for him to take a 350 dollar hit per employee including himself and wife. Which wouldn't be an issue except she's never worked there. But the state government told him she always has. Meanwhile the employees will go forth and get Obama care.


I believe the only part of this story that isn't completely made up is the word "with".
2012-12-28 04:21:56 PM
2 votes:

WhoopAssWayne: Convenience abortions should be prosecuted as first degree murder.

Go ahead idiot liberals - open up this can of worms of pushing your beliefs on others through Obamacare and see what kind of a country we end up with. Because it won't take long for the ball to be in the other court, and I have a feeling the next republican president will make G W Bush look like Mahatma Gandhi, and then you dumbasses will really have something to cry about.


Oh my god, you're a riot!
Can you do a bit about welfare now?
2012-12-28 04:21:39 PM
2 votes:
30.media.tumblr.com

Christian Science Pharmacist refuses to fill any prescription
2012-12-28 04:06:14 PM
2 votes:
This will end well for them. Everyone knows the gays just abhor arts & crafts. No way this could possibly hurt their business more than covering birth control.
2012-12-28 02:31:00 PM
2 votes:
mojoimage.com


Dobby approves of the headline
2012-12-28 01:47:23 PM
2 votes:
I really can't support a company with such a dishonest name. Who calls themselves Hobby Lobby but doesn't support the hobby of sex?
2012-12-29 01:00:57 AM
1 votes:
cbathrob

This thread is further proof that calling oneself a Libertarian is the simplest, most elegant IQ test ever devised--along with support for Ron Paul or the gold standard. Might as well just wear a helmet at all times, because you lack the sense that the FSM gave dirt.


So, why did Ron Paul run on the republican ticket this election?
2012-12-29 12:30:35 AM
1 votes:

you are a puppet: Submitter: you sir, are a mouthful.


I go to the same gym as subby. Half a mouthful at best.
2012-12-28 10:20:58 PM
1 votes:

Indubitably: dr_blasto: TanHamster: TanHamster: cameroncrazy1984: TanHamster: ZeroCorpse: The Greens should shove some Chic-Fil-A up their asses and STFU.

Honestly, I'm sick of these fundies who own corporations thinking they can act like their business is a branch of their church. It's not, and your employees are not your congregation.

Honestly, screw these people.

I'm sick of douchebags like you taking shots at people who actually employ other people. You sound like a student.

Oh god yes, we should treat job creators like gods because otherwise they might not rain employment like mana from heaven.

I could understand all of the butthutt, if Hobby Lobby were a publically-traded company. But it's privately held, so fark off.

butthurt*

Butthutt.

I just got an idea for a new business: topless mini golf. You'd go around the little golf area and topless chick would fetch the balls, serve drinks and on top of some of the sillier mini-golf things, you'd have topless dancers. It would be called the ButtHutt.

This was better in yer head.


No no no. Still good.

Wanna get really rich? Strip club chain in airport concourses.
2012-12-28 10:15:08 PM
1 votes:

dr_blasto: TanHamster: TanHamster: cameroncrazy1984: TanHamster: ZeroCorpse: The Greens should shove some Chic-Fil-A up their asses and STFU.

Honestly, I'm sick of these fundies who own corporations thinking they can act like their business is a branch of their church. It's not, and your employees are not your congregation.

Honestly, screw these people.

I'm sick of douchebags like you taking shots at people who actually employ other people. You sound like a student.

Oh god yes, we should treat job creators like gods because otherwise they might not rain employment like mana from heaven.

I could understand all of the butthutt, if Hobby Lobby were a publically-traded company. But it's privately held, so fark off.

butthurt*

Butthutt.

I just got an idea for a new business: topless mini golf. You'd go around the little golf area and topless chick would fetch the balls, serve drinks and on top of some of the sillier mini-golf things, you'd have topless dancers. It would be called the ButtHutt.


This was better in yer head.
2012-12-28 10:09:54 PM
1 votes:

TanHamster: TanHamster: cameroncrazy1984: TanHamster: ZeroCorpse: The Greens should shove some Chic-Fil-A up their asses and STFU.

Honestly, I'm sick of these fundies who own corporations thinking they can act like their business is a branch of their church. It's not, and your employees are not your congregation.

Honestly, screw these people.

I'm sick of douchebags like you taking shots at people who actually employ other people. You sound like a student.

Oh god yes, we should treat job creators like gods because otherwise they might not rain employment like mana from heaven.

I could understand all of the butthutt, if Hobby Lobby were a publically-traded company. But it's privately held, so fark off.

butthurt*


Butthutt.

I just got an idea for a new business: topless mini golf. You'd go around the little golf area and topless chick would fetch the balls, serve drinks and on top of some of the sillier mini-golf things, you'd have topless dancers. It would be called the ButtHutt.
2012-12-28 08:08:58 PM
1 votes:

Whole Wheat: ZeroCorpse: The Greens should shove some Chic-Fil-A up their asses and STFU.

Honestly, I'm sick of these fundies who own corporations thinking they can act like their business is a branch of their church. It's not, and your employees are not your congregation.

Honestly, screw these people.

It's their business, they should be allowed to run it how they want. It was formed from their own biblical beliefs. If they choose to pay the fines instead of complying with the law, good on them.


I'm starting a new company soon. I just thought of an awesome rule ... employees are not allowed to donate any of their salaries to churches or other right wing causes, nor to buy guns. My company, my rules.
2012-12-28 07:56:54 PM
1 votes:

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: The Democrats take control of the House (and Senate) in 2007, and coincidentally in 2007 the USPS operated at a loss for the first time in over 5 years..... but this is somehow the Republicans fault?


Um, because the new regs were put in  prior to 2007? Oh gee, that was so hard to figure out.
2012-12-28 07:08:09 PM
1 votes:

giftedmadness: stating facts is trolling?


Try stating a fact and find out.
2012-12-28 07:07:38 PM
1 votes:

Bontesla: You must define choice as being something only businesses have as Obamacare offers people choices they originally didn't have.


Corporations are people, my friend, with rights.
Employees are just pee-ons.
2012-12-28 06:25:00 PM
1 votes:

KiTTeNs_on_AciD: Why this fixation on people who are getting laid and don't want kids or more kids?


Jealousy?
2012-12-28 06:21:09 PM
1 votes:

KidneyStone: Look up personal responsibility


Sure thing! Let's see, P... Peanut... Ah, here we go.

Personal Responsiblity n.
1. What conservatives constantly preach but rarely, if ever, actually practice.

Hey, there's a picture of Craig T. Nelson next to the definition!

garron: If the owners of Hobby Lobby believe that abortion is murder, they have a moral responsibility to not pay for said murders.


So you're OK if Cindy Sheehan and death penalty opposers also sued the government because they too have a moral responsibility not to pay for murder?
2012-12-28 06:17:16 PM
1 votes:

garron: This is a simple concept people. If the owners of Hobby Lobby believe that abortion is murder, they have a moral responsibility to not pay for said murders.

But - I know there is no way but the liberal way and liberals have the right to dictate to people what they must believe and how they must spend their money. The Russians and Chinese communists use forced labor camps, jail and sometimes murder to enforce their ideologies on people. You liberals should look into it. I hear its very effective.


They also believe that contraception (regardless of its use) is abortion. They also believe all sorts of other crazy sh*t.
2012-12-28 06:03:03 PM
1 votes:
Now I don't feel so bad about all the shiat I broke there.
2012-12-28 05:55:53 PM
1 votes:

giftedmadness: Um...#1 violates the employers right to practice their religion....


Learn the difference between "practicing your religion" and "imposing your religion on other people".

Your right to practice YOUR religion ENDS where my right to practice MY religion BEGINS. That's the distinction you teabagging fundie assholes never seem to understand. Practicing your religion means "I must wear magic underwear". That's fine. What we have a problem with is when you say "My employees must wear magic underwear".

Practice your own farking religion to your heart's content. Wear funny hats and magic underwear, eat special food, abstain from sex and dancing, whatever you think makes your invisible sky wizard happy -- all perfectly fine with us. Just leave the rest of us out of it.

If you're right, we're going to hell anyway. That's actually fine with us, as long as our afterlife doesn't mean spending an eternity surrounded by self-righteous douchebags like you.
2012-12-28 05:24:38 PM
1 votes:

KidneyStone: I'm against my healthcare costs going up to pay for contraceptives. And that includes what I use.


So you're against paying for other peoples contraceptives. Fine.

Would you be alright if insurance provided those contraceptives for free at no additional cost to you or others?

What if insurance provided contraceptives to everyone for free and also sent you a check with some extra money every year?

This last one is closest reality. Providing contraceptives reduces insurance costs and insurance providers are required to send you a check every year of the money they did not use. You're the dickhead demanding I pay higher insurance premiums because you want to drive some moral narrative on women. Who the fark are you to drive my insurance costs up?
2012-12-28 05:23:54 PM
1 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: KidneyStone: I'm against my healthcare costs going up to pay for contraceptives. And that includes what I use.

You idiot.  Contraceptives cost LESS than a baby.  The BABY makes the cost go up.  Contraceptives prevent the expensive baby-making, thus costing LESS.  How do you not understand this?


Kidney stones, like babies, are entirely preventable. I resent paying for other peoples' failure to drink enough water.
2012-12-28 05:16:04 PM
1 votes:
I just sent a message to them via their website.  I asked why Hobby Lobby is so un-American.  Why they don't sell American-made merchandise, why they want to impose their religious views on their staff, and if they'd get bent out of shape if a Muslim-owned company did the same thing.  I don't expect to hear back from them...
2012-12-28 05:07:33 PM
1 votes:

Great Janitor: ghare: Great Janitor: Bontesla: Great Janitor: I really can't hate them for saying that they don't want to offer coverage that goes against their beliefs. They aren't saying that they don't want their female employees not to be on the pill or whatever, just that they don't want to offer those programs. If their employees don't like it, they can find work else where. It shouldn't be the government's position to tell businesses exactly what benefits they have to offer, what kind of healthcare packages they have to provide.

Why should your employer's religious preferences be imposed on the standard of insurance you can receive?

Other than offering insurance - the business has no business in my medical business.

Because they are paying for it.

Well, then, they obviously have the right to restrict what employees do with their paychecks too.

Wrong. Employers have no rights to tell employees what to do with the paychecks. Since that's payment for time spent making the company money. The part about health insurance is different because it's not payment for services.


Health care is part of your payment. Employers aren't bestowing you with good health care because of your killer dimples.
2012-12-28 05:02:48 PM
1 votes:

Great Janitor: It shouldn't be the government's position to tell businesses exactly what benefits they have to offer, what kind of healthcare packages they have to provide.


You mean "benefits" like minimum wage, a healthy & safe workplace, overtime pay, child labor laws, etc? Yeah, who needs big bad gubmint telling employers what to do, right?
2012-12-28 05:02:20 PM
1 votes:

KidneyStone: I have a big problem with the government making it a law that health insurance must pay for contraceptives. Ya wanna fark and not make babies? Cool, but don't make my health insurance costs go up because of it.


Insurance that pays for contraception is cheaper than insurance that doesn't, and has to pay to deliver an unwanted baby, then maintain it's health for years, and years.  How do you not understand this.  A rubber costs a couple of bucks.  How much does it cost to bring a baby to term, you dolt?
2012-12-28 04:51:46 PM
1 votes:

imtheonlylp: Bontesla: imtheonlylp: ok, here goes..

if you don't like it, then find another job...it's not mandatory that you believe what they do nor is it mandatory that you are employed there...

Your logic:
1). Law is created to protect employees.
2). Employer violates law.
3). Punish employee.

don't really think they're "punishing" anyone...employees are welcome to get their own insurance wherever they please...

My logic:
1) You don't agree with a business or their ethics or even their stance on any issue.
2) Don't work there and don't shop there.
3) Problem solved.


That's not actual logic. Your conclusion isn't a deduction made from your premises. It's not even inductive logic.

And if you don't think that the loss of work isn't a punishment for employees at the Hobby Lobby then you might just pass as a Romney son.
2012-12-28 04:42:09 PM
1 votes:
I have a big problem with the government making it a law that health insurance must pay for contraceptives. Ya wanna fark and not make babies? Cool, but don't make my health insurance costs go up because of it.
2012-12-28 04:40:06 PM
1 votes:

ElwoodCuse: The law Hobby Lobby is biatching about has an exemption for religious organizations.


Is it an exemption for non-profits? Or an exemption based on religious beliefs?

I'm having a difficult time accepting your statement at face value. Though dumber things have happened, I suppose.
2012-12-28 04:31:16 PM
1 votes:
"Our family is now being forced to choose between following the laws of the land that we love or maintaining the religious beliefs that have made our business successful and supported our family and thousands of our employees and their families," Green said in September. "We simply cannot abandon our religious beliefs to comply with this mandate."

Well pilgrim, get to pilgrimming.
2012-12-28 04:29:47 PM
1 votes:

Bontesla: o5iiawah: The My Little Pony Killer: Maybe they should become a church if they want to have church rules.

Or maybe they should be a private company, one of those places where you can choose on your own whether or not to shop there or work there.

dafuq did I just read?


You read a smattering of the idiotic theory of "free market" logic as told by a slave.
2012-12-28 04:23:22 PM
1 votes:

special20: cwolf20: On an unrelated note.

Owner with 6 employees figured up the math on providing insurance for the first time to his employees.

It'll be cheaper for him to take a 350 dollar hit per employee including himself and wife. Which wouldn't be an issue except she's never worked there. But the state government told him she always has. Meanwhile the employees will go forth and get Obama care.

Too bad "Owner" doesn't work hard enough to afford what is legally required. Some job creator "Owner" is... he must not be very smart.


Maybe he has worthless employees who spend too much time on FARK instead of working hard and increasing productivity.
2012-12-28 04:22:12 PM
1 votes:
I really can't hate them for saying that they don't want to offer coverage that goes against their beliefs. They aren't saying that they don't want their female employees not to be on the pill or whatever, just that they don't want to offer those programs. If their employees don't like it, they can find work else where. It shouldn't be the government's position to tell businesses exactly what benefits they have to offer, what kind of healthcare packages they have to provide.
2012-12-28 04:21:27 PM
1 votes:
www.rockbandaide.com

Their lawyer.

/You should read his law blog
2012-12-28 04:17:28 PM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: That 40 bucks is going to push them right over the edge.

Boycotting them is kind of counter productive. If enough people did that (they won't), it would have more of a negative impact on the employees, then it would the company. Sales are down, you lay off people.


You're absolutely right.  Continuing to shop there is the best possible way to send a message that their attempts to interfere with the private lives of their employees will not be tolerated.
2012-12-28 04:15:50 PM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Boycotting them is kind of counter productive.


So if you disagree with their policy, you should shop there even more? Well, that's a tacit that I had not thought of. "Hey, Green Family, I don't agree with your policies, here's more money for you."
2012-12-28 04:15:44 PM
1 votes:
Convenience abortions should be prosecuted as first degree murder.

Go ahead idiot liberals - open up this can of worms of pushing your beliefs on others through Obamacare and see what kind of a country we end up with. Because it won't take long for the ball to be in the other court, and I have a feeling the next republican president will make G W Bush look like Mahatma Gandhi, and then you dumbasses will really have something to cry about.
2012-12-28 04:14:56 PM
1 votes:
There is an easy solution that they'll probably take.

Just stop providing health insurance.

That'll make everyone happy , right?
2012-12-28 04:07:52 PM
1 votes:

Di Atribe: Hey, why not just follow your employees home to make sure they're not farking for fun?


Hey, don't put that past the Green family. They are, how shall we say, true holy rollers. Of course they live like billionaires, not humble servants of god (that would be their many minimum wage slaves), but you gotta draw the line somewhere, right?
2012-12-28 04:05:30 PM
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: gopher321: [mojoimage.com image 500x333]


Dobby approves of the headline

[www.hotflick.net image 720x540]

So does Robbie.


userserve-ak.last.fm

So does Mr. Blobby?

/blobby blobby blobby blobby
2012-12-28 02:54:22 PM
1 votes:

gopher321: [mojoimage.com image 500x333]


Dobby approves of the headline


www.hotflick.net

So does Robbie.
2012-12-28 01:48:06 PM
1 votes:
Maybe they should become a church if they want to have church rules.
 
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