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2012-12-28 02:47:25 PM

nmemkha: david_gaithersburg: Another new Muslim theocracy brought to you by Obama. Thanks Obama! The Egyptian People.

Democracy isn't "whatever America wants".


.
For a moment there I thought you were being serious. There's a damned good reason we've installed and supported dictatorships throughout the Middle East for the past seven decades. Middle Easterners, much like so called American progressives, have no concept of democracy.
 
2012-12-28 02:47:35 PM

John Redcorn: Will the Red Sea part this time?


It parts every 28 days for some people.
 
2012-12-28 02:47:40 PM

LordJiro: Gunny Walker: Warrener: What, did they realize that with a new government they could really use some skilled workers to set up a new economy?

[i264.photobucket.com image 500x311]

Wasn't the 'slaves built the pyramids' thing disproven a while back?


Yeah, but just because we talk about Hitler a lot doesn't make this the History Channel.
 
2012-12-28 02:48:07 PM

Porous Horace: Ma nishtana ha-threada ha-zeh mi-kol ha-threadot?


Ha-threada hazeh, ha-threada hazeh, kulanu mishegas.
 
2012-12-28 02:48:10 PM

The One True TheDavid: "Egyptian Jews should refuse to live under a brutal, bloody and racist occupation stained with war crimes against humanity," Erian said.

Tell it to the Copts.

Egyptian Jews were an influential part of Egyptian society before say 1947. See Wikipedia (link).
It would be great if Jews, Copts, Shia, atheists and other non-Sunni minorities had equal rights in Egypt. Of course you'd have to give Sunni Egyptian Arabs equal rights with one another too. How would one convince "ordinary Egyptians" that democracy is a good thing?

Failing that, bring back the Fatimids. Aga Khan for Caliph!


Careful there. Fark is know for its Copt hating!
 
2012-12-28 02:49:16 PM

LordJiro: Gunny Walker: Warrener: What, did they realize that with a new government they could really use some skilled workers to set up a new economy?

[i264.photobucket.com image 500x311]

Wasn't the 'slaves built the pyramids' thing disproven a while back?


Pretty sure the general consensus is that an ancient version of day workers built them. I've seen suggestions that it's possible the workforce was partially conscripted but I don't think I have seen a serious researcher suggest it was an entirely slave labor force in recent memory.

/not an egyptologist
//just watch them on tv
 
2012-12-28 02:50:22 PM

Via one way rail service?


/how about bringing the Gypsies back too?

 
2012-12-28 02:50:50 PM
Let my people go.........home?
 
2012-12-28 02:51:02 PM

david_gaithersburg: nmemkha: david_gaithersburg: Another new Muslim theocracy brought to you by Obama. Thanks Obama! The Egyptian People.

Democracy isn't "whatever America wants".

.
For a moment there I thought you were being serious. There's a damned good reason we've installed and supported dictatorships throughout the Middle East for the past seven decades. Middle Easterners, much like so called American progressives, have no concept of democracy.


Feeding trolls, shame on me.
 
2012-12-28 02:52:27 PM

david_gaithersburg: nmemkha: david_gaithersburg: Another new Muslim theocracy brought to you by Obama. Thanks Obama! The Egyptian People.

Democracy isn't "whatever America wants".

.
For a moment there I thought you were being serious. There's a damned good reason we've installed and supported dictatorships throughout the Middle East for the past seven decades. Middle Easterners, much like so called American progressives, have no concept of democracy.


Yes, we white people Westerners are so much more enlightened than those savages! We know what's best for them.

/The West farking with them over the last few centuries is the direct cause of 90% of the problems in the Middle East and Africa.
 
2012-12-28 02:52:38 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Porous Horace: Ma nishtana ha-threada ha-zeh mi-kol ha-threadot?

Ha-threada hazeh, ha-threada hazeh, kulanu mishegas.*


*But only because it's in the Main tab, and not, you know, that other one.
 
2012-12-28 02:53:20 PM

A Shambling Mound: Pretty sure the general consensus is that an ancient version of day workers built them. I've seen suggestions that it's possible the workforce was partially conscripted but I don't think I have seen a serious researcher suggest it was an entirely slave labor force in recent memory.

/not an egyptologist
//just watch them on tv



Part of any problem with this is Egypt had a very long and very dark period where they destroyed or neglected their history. So most talk is speculative or logical extrapolation based on scant evidence. We're not even sure what some of the monuments mean. We have a good idea but again, very little written down by contemporaries spelling it out.
 
2012-12-28 02:55:14 PM
 
2012-12-28 02:55:19 PM

LordJiro: david_gaithersburg: nmemkha: david_gaithersburg: Another new Muslim theocracy brought to you by Obama. Thanks Obama! The Egyptian People.

Democracy isn't "whatever America wants".

.
For a moment there I thought you were being serious. There's a damned good reason we've installed and supported dictatorships throughout the Middle East for the past seven decades. Middle Easterners, much like so called American progressives, have no concept of democracy.

Yes, we white people Westerners are so much more enlightened than those savages! We know what's best for them.

/The West farking with them over the last few centuries is the direct cause of 90% of the problems in the Middle East and Africa.


You seriously believe that they wouldn't be just as misogynistic, rapey and backwards (if not more so) without the West?
 
2012-12-28 02:55:40 PM

LordJiro: /The West farking with them over the last few centuries is the direct cause of 90% of the problems in the Middle East and Africa.


Not direct. Indirect.

We didn't make the Tutsis and the Hutus hate each other. We just put them both in the same box and were surprised at the outcome.
 
2012-12-28 02:56:30 PM
The only answer is for Israel to colonise Mars next. Then, own the most desert of all time! Take that Egypt! Thppppt!

Try delicious new fair trade organic Martian olives!
 
2012-12-28 02:56:37 PM

Mrbogey: Part of any problem with this is Egypt had a very long and very dark period where they destroyed or neglected their history. So most talk is speculative or logical extrapolation based on scant evidence. We're not even sure what some of the monuments mean. We have a good idea but again, very little written down by contemporaries spelling it out.


Oh, I agree entirely. I didn't mean to imply that anyone really knows who built them, it's just that modern researchers seem to lean less toward "giant slave labor force" and more toward "partially conscripted migrant labor force".
 
2012-12-28 02:57:23 PM

don't understand: Can we just blow up the whole Middle East and start all over?

Pretty please?


No, that's where we keep our old stuff at. You don't want to blow up the Middle East. You just want to get rid of the people. The buildings and antiquities that have been around for thousands of years can stay. And then it can be a proper, family friendly tourist trap for history geeks.
 
2012-12-28 02:58:09 PM

A Shambling Mound: garandman1a: Well as I understand it, the Jews built the pyramids so why not let them take 'em down. Now that the Muslim Brotherhood is in charge, they know blowing them up like they plan to do will waste valuable explosives better suited for IED's. Besides, now that they've killed most of the Coptic community, they need new targets.

They are not going to blow up the pyramids.


As long as the Jews come back to dismantle them, of course not. Hence the original request and my response to it.

Seriously though, I seem to remember some I think Buddhist images being blown off the side of a mountain in Afghanistan by some Muslim sect, and I also know that some in the Muslim brotherhood were calling for the pyramids to be destroyed as they were somehow an affront to Muhammad.

Doesn't mean they will be destroyed or that I think they will, but it doesn't mean the possibility isn't there either.
 
2012-12-28 02:58:49 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: LordJiro: david_gaithersburg: nmemkha: david_gaithersburg: Another new Muslim theocracy brought to you by Obama. Thanks Obama! The Egyptian People.

Democracy isn't "whatever America wants".

.
For a moment there I thought you were being serious. There's a damned good reason we've installed and supported dictatorships throughout the Middle East for the past seven decades. Middle Easterners, much like so called American progressives, have no concept of democracy.

Yes, we white people Westerners are so much more enlightened than those savages! We know what's best for them.

/The West farking with them over the last few centuries is the direct cause of 90% of the problems in the Middle East and Africa.

You seriously believe that they wouldn't be just as misogynistic, rapey and backwards (if not more so) without the West?


.
I say we blame the Romans!
 
2012-12-28 02:59:15 PM
Good lord, there's a lot of farking derp in here today. Did they give you farkers a day off from McDonald's?
 
2012-12-28 03:00:43 PM

groppet: Let my people go.........home?


Romanes eunt domus?
 
2012-12-28 03:01:14 PM

Infernalist: Good lord, there's a lot of farking derp in here today. Did they give you farkers a day off from McDonald's?


Listen, that's pretty insulting. My local McDonald's is clean, fast, efficient, and doesn't make mistakes. Unlike those bozos over at A&W...
 
2012-12-28 03:02:54 PM
So you wanna go back to Egypt?

/might be obscure here.
 
2012-12-28 03:04:18 PM
Wow! Just wow. I am not sure that most of you shouldn't be caged for the protection of the general population. I am not sure when I have read more hate filled posts this side of a white supremacists congratulations for Obama winning re-election. Boy you guys are good. You just don't like anyone but yourselves and honestly I think you would fark yourselves over if you made the news and a good fark-line.
Just a thought. Decaf and anger management classes. Maybe some yoga. A walk with a girl or a guy through a park. Push away from the keyboards and hug a puppy. No don't kill the puppy!
 
2012-12-28 03:05:24 PM

Gunny Walker: Warrener: What, did they realize that with a new government they could really use some skilled workers to set up a new economy?

[i264.photobucket.com image 500x311]


...
Ok, I was going more for a more upper middle class type of skilled worker. Like accountant, lawyer, jeweler... you know jobs that immigrant Jewish populations are famous for and also happen to be really valuable when you're trying to set up a government for a country the rest of the world won't consider to be an irrelevant backwater.
 
2012-12-28 03:06:15 PM
Will Switzerland schlep back their stolen jew gold to them?
 
2012-12-28 03:06:55 PM

TommyDeuce: So you wanna go back to Egypt?

/might be obscure here.


This is Fark. Nothing is obscure here.

/Keith died too young.
 
2012-12-28 03:07:08 PM
newsjunkiepost.com

^ Got in trouble for saying the same thing ^
 
2012-12-28 03:10:07 PM
They'll be busting down the doors to get back in once they see how the Copts are treated.

Or, more likely, they'll choose to stay in Israel, an overtly religious state that still manages to grant more freedom and openness to its people than any of the Arab countries ever have regardless of their feigned attempts at secularism.
 
2012-12-28 03:10:58 PM

scalpod: david_gaithersburg: Well that is where they are from.

/btw Israel
//My god spoke to me last night.
///And he has changed his mind since your a bunch of murdering pricks.
//That land is now promised to me and my people.

Actually, Abraham was originally from Ur - but good luck getting anyone to agree on exactly where that was.


We know where Ur was. It isn't lost.
 
2012-12-28 03:12:13 PM

A Shambling Mound: Mrbogey: Part of any problem with this is Egypt had a very long and very dark period where they destroyed or neglected their history. So most talk is speculative or logical extrapolation based on scant evidence. We're not even sure what some of the monuments mean. We have a good idea but again, very little written down by contemporaries spelling it out.

Oh, I agree entirely. I didn't mean to imply that anyone really knows who built them, it's just that modern researchers seem to lean less toward "giant slave labor force" and more toward "partially conscripted migrant labor force".


Sorry, but you're wrong. The truth is...

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-28 03:12:52 PM

scalpod: david_gaithersburg: Well that is where they are from.

/btw Israel
//My god spoke to me last night.
///And he has changed his mind since your a bunch of murdering pricks.
//That land is now promised to me and my people.

Actually, Abraham was originally from Ur - but good luck getting anyone to agree on exactly where that was.


Seems like the location is pretty well established.

/Iraq says, "no, Egypt, can't have"
 
2012-12-28 03:15:56 PM

garandman1a: As long as the Jews come back to dismantle them, of course not. Hence the original request and my response to it.


So as long as the Jews come save them, the Muslims won't blow them up. Got it.

Seriously though, I seem to remember some I think Buddhist images being blown off the side of a mountain in Afghanistan by some Muslim sect, and I also know that some in the Muslim brotherhood were calling for the pyramids to be destroyed as they were somehow an affront to Muhammad.

It would not be unfair to characterize the decision makers behind the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan as people recently promoted from "hunter / gatherer" to "cabinet member". Mohammed Omar was most likely educated solely in a madrasah and had almost no demonstrated understand of how the "rest of the world" actually operates. In contrast, Egypt's Morsi has three degrees including a Ph.D from the University of Southern California.

Doesn't mean they will be destroyed or that I think they will, but it doesn't mean the possibility isn't there either.

You just said something about the Jews needing to save them so it seems like you DO think they will be destroyed, but hey, whatever. The possibility also exists that someone would steal one and replace it with an inflatable replica but that doesn't mean it's worth discussing.

Seriously. If anyone is going to blow up the pyramids it is not going to be the current leadership of Egypt. At least not with Morsi in charge and it would appear that he's doing everything he possibly can to make sure he is VERY much in charge.
 
2012-12-28 03:31:16 PM
 
2012-12-28 03:34:55 PM

Vectron: He's right. Israel is getting more "racist" every day.

Naftali Bennett is the rising star of Israeli politics, and his party, Jewish Home, is projected to be the third largest in Israel: he is also an upfront racist who has made the presence of Africans in the country a major campaign issue,


Oh shiat, Prof. Griff was right. Get Chuck D on the call ASAP.
 
2012-12-28 03:37:07 PM

Warrener: Gunny Walker: Warrener: What, did they realize that with a new government they could really use some skilled workers to set up a new economy?

[i264.photobucket.com image 500x311]

...
Ok, I was going more for a more upper middle class type of skilled worker. Like accountant, lawyer, jeweler... you know jobs that immigrant Jewish populations are famous for and also happen to be really valuable when you're trying to set up a government for a country the rest of the world won't consider to be an irrelevant backwater.



Also pimp, organized crime lord, human organ trafficer, media monopoly baron,,,,,
 
2012-12-28 03:43:50 PM
Allah Ackbar says it's a trap.
 
2012-12-28 03:51:55 PM
Well duh... it is going to be much harder to murder them all if they stay in Israel
 
2012-12-28 03:52:24 PM

LordJiro: Gunny Walker: Warrener: What, did they realize that with a new government they could really use some skilled workers to set up a new economy?

[i264.photobucket.com image 500x311]

Wasn't the 'slaves built the pyramids' thing disproven a while back?


The last Seder dinner I attended made a pretty big point of it.
 
2012-12-28 03:55:52 PM
And herein these comments were found the proofs that US citizens can't really grasp the complexity of this whole middle eastern states thing.
 
2012-12-28 04:00:14 PM

Reverend Monkeypants: And herein these comments were found the proofs that US citizens can't really grasp the complexity of this whole middle eastern states thing.


What is there to grasp? These people are stuck in the 12th century. Anything they say or do is f*cked up.
 
2012-12-28 04:00:26 PM

Vectron: He's right. Israel is getting more "racist" every day.

Naftali Bennett is the rising star of Israeli politics, and his party, Jewish Home, is projected to be the third largest in Israel: he is also an upfront racist who has made the presence of Africans in the country a major campaign issue,


So it's racist to call for enforcing the law regarding Illegal job-seeking aliens. I'm guessing you didn't know much about said "Africans" and neither did the author of that article.
 
2012-12-28 04:00:57 PM

Nutsac_Jim: "whatever"


(Way late to this party)

I had lulz.
 
2012-12-28 04:04:43 PM
Why don't we ask how much the Copts are liking Egypt under MB party rule?
 
2012-12-28 04:06:02 PM

megarian: Nutsac_Jim: "whatever"

(Way late to this party)

I had lulz.


Me too.
 
2012-12-28 04:06:44 PM

Reverend Monkeypants: And herein these comments were found the proofs that US citizens can't really grasp the complexity of this whole middle eastern states thing.


Any comments in particular you want to address, r do you just want to pretend you are above everybody?

/not saying there is no derp, but there are plenty of great points on how pants on how stupid what he is asking is.
 
2012-12-28 04:12:06 PM

Vectron: He's right. Israel is getting more "racist" every day.

Naftali Bennett is the rising star of Israeli politics, and his party, Jewish Home, is projected to be the third largest in Israel: he is also an upfront racist who has made the presence of Africans in the country a major campaign issue,


It's worth noting that Israeli politics is very fragmented. The threshold is 2 percent and many parties get in; governments are usually multi-party coalitions. Kadima currently have the most seats in the Knesset and that's only 23 percent of the seats. They are not currently part of Netanyahu's government; on the other hand, the Jewish Home is.

Many parties run joint lists for elections; for example Jewish Home is projected to be the third largest only if you ignore two facts: 1) the projected winner is actually a coalition between Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu; and 2) Jewish Home itself is running on a common list with parties from the National Union (yet another coalition), who also already have seats in the current Knesset. So it's realignment of forces more than sentiment changing amongst the people. Israel has always had its racists, like any country.
 
2012-12-28 04:12:19 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Reverend Monkeypants: And herein these comments were found the proofs that US citizens can't really grasp the complexity of this whole middle eastern states thing.

What is there to grasp? These people are stuck in the 12th century. Anything they say or do is f*cked up.


Yep, they're just mindless savages. It's up to us enlightened Westerners to fix them!
 
2012-12-28 04:48:20 PM
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We're gonna worship this golden calf, see?
 
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