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2012-12-28 08:39:14 AM
what do you expect when it's controlled by the party of "NO?"

/yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.
 
2012-12-28 09:01:01 AM
Nasty lot. Can't wait to see the back of them. How do you NOT pass the Violence Against Women Act or the Farm Bill? And yet you see fit to try to redefine rape?
 
2012-12-28 09:07:05 AM
Look, I think we should say bye but I can't get an agreement from my lot on the best way to do it so we're going to wait and see if other people can come up with a way so we can formally reject their methods, too.
 
2012-12-28 09:32:48 AM

FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.


What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?
 
2012-12-28 09:44:47 AM
I appears that the new one will be trying to take over the record.
 
2012-12-28 09:54:22 AM
The living incarnation of "the government which governs best governs least, so we might as well not govern at all".
 
2012-12-28 09:54:40 AM
Isn't this a repeat from 2006, 2008, 2010?

but seriously, tea partiers. Fark you

Good morning America, I missed you
 
2012-12-28 09:56:23 AM
It is sad that Americans judge congress by the number of bills they pass.  You can bet that the majority of those bills resulted in expanding government influence in our lives and spending more of our tax dollars..  We need better government, not bigger government.

Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.
 
2012-12-28 09:59:11 AM

BillCo: You can bet that the majority of those bills resulted in expanding government influence in our lives and spending more of our tax dollars..


These laws are for your own good.
 
2012-12-28 09:59:44 AM

BillCo: It is sad that Americans judge congress by the number of bills they pass.  You can bet that the majority of those bills resulted in expanding government influence in our lives and spending more of our tax dollars..  We need better government, not bigger government.

Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.


okay, I have you farkied as "Remember: Unions = KKK" but surely even you can't have your head *that* far up  your ass, right?
 
2012-12-28 10:08:07 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


I like it, rather than honestly address the problem you'd rather imply hypocrisy on the part of the speaker.
 
2012-12-28 10:13:19 AM

somedude210: BillCo: It is sad that Americans judge congress by the number of bills they pass.  You can bet that the majority of those bills resulted in expanding government influence in our lives and spending more of our tax dollars..  We need better government, not bigger government.

Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.

okay, I have you farkied as "Remember: Unions = KKK" but surely even you can't have your head *that* far up  your ass, right?


Oh, he can.  It is actually so far up his ass it has reemerged through the top, though covered in shiat.
 
2012-12-28 10:13:40 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


Before the GOP turned it into a gun to the head?
 
2012-12-28 10:15:05 AM

bmongar: somedude210: BillCo: It is sad that Americans judge congress by the number of bills they pass.  You can bet that the majority of those bills resulted in expanding government influence in our lives and spending more of our tax dollars..  We need better government, not bigger government.

Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.

okay, I have you farkied as "Remember: Unions = KKK" but surely even you can't have your head *that* far up  your ass, right?

Oh, he can.  It is actually so far up his ass it has reemerged through the top, though covered in shiat.


That mental image you've given me is more concerning that he's created some weird infinite loop and less about the shiat covered head.

That's a bad thing, right?
 
2012-12-28 10:15:34 AM
Good farking riddance. I hope the Democrats grind the filibuster into a pile of sawdust.
 
2012-12-28 10:15:35 AM
I sure as hell hope the pay is good to be that consistently stupid for years in thousands of threads. I just couldn't do it.
 
2012-12-28 10:15:39 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


I'm sure somebody will come along shortly and post the chart of how the Republicans have used it more frequently than ever before in history, but thanks for the false equivalence.
 
2012-12-28 10:17:09 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


If senators are required to actually stand up there and filibuster, fine. It places a realistic limit on the number of times it can be done, since the filibuster-ers have to actually WORK (something senators are not well-known for) to do it. This "paper filibuster" shiat is absolutely atrocious. Bills shouldn't need 60 votes to pass the senate, period.
 
2012-12-28 10:17:32 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


i49.tinypic.com

i think the filibuster - regardless of which party is in charge - should be a last-ditch blocking maneuver only invoked in extreme circumstances - and only permissible when an actual filibuster is used (not just the threat of the filibuster).
 
2012-12-28 10:17:41 AM
It would be nice if we could say that the effects of this Congress were being undone for years to come. However, considering the vast majority of crap they tried to pass barely made it to vote (if it got even that far), there is nothing to undo.

At least the cable news networks had a field day scheduling their ads, raking in profits and coming up with new and creative ways to say "Benghazi", "fiscal clif" or both.
 
2012-12-28 10:18:20 AM

ginandbacon: Nasty lot. Can't wait to see the back of them. How do you NOT pass the Violence Against Women Act or the Farm Bill? And yet you see fit to try to redefine rape?


you obviously need to study it out more.
 
2012-12-28 10:19:13 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?


The modern day filibuster is pretty chicken crap regardless of who is in control. You should be required to stand, in chambers after initiating a quorum call and obtaining a quorum to conduct a filibuster and you should be required to stand at the podium without break, food or liquid of any kind.

But as it pertains to the modern Filibuster 2007 27 items compared to 2012's 207, there is no comparison. And let's be honest, there is NO comparison when your crowning achievement on using a filibuster is to filibuster your own proposed bill that you, yourself, JUST submitted.
 
2012-12-28 10:20:28 AM
You know, with all these reasoned responses...it is going to make it very hard for him to say "well, that makes it ok" or "but my side is right"
 
2012-12-28 10:21:29 AM
My voting strategy for the last and next election is simple:

I do not vote for the incumbent. I don't care the party. This congress is so broken, only by a complete purge of the current Representatives will do.
 
2012-12-28 10:22:21 AM
Hopefully they all get the board appointments and high paying lobbyist jobd they were promised in return for doing nothing.
 
2012-12-28 10:22:33 AM

bulldg4life: You know, with all these reasoned responses...it is going to make it very hard for him to say "well, that makes it ok" or "but my side is right"


I'm going to guess he sticks with the tried-and-true: "it's good because we should have less laws anyway" approach.
 
2012-12-28 10:23:02 AM

myspamhere: My voting strategy for the last and next election is simple:

I do not vote for the incumbent. I don't care the party. This congress is so broken, only by a complete purge of the current Representatives will do.


Well it's good you don't have to go to the trouble of actually informing yourself or your views, just blindly wash your hands and hope for something better regardless of what that something actually is actively showing itself to be. Seriously, that's the epitome of American laziness.
 
2012-12-28 10:23:56 AM

not5am: ginandbacon: Nasty lot. Can't wait to see the back of them. How do you NOT pass the Violence Against Women Act or the Farm Bill? And yet you see fit to try to redefine rape?

you obviously need to study it out more.



ha! that has to be one of my favorite interviews from 2012

ct.fra.bz
.
 
2012-12-28 10:24:11 AM

BillCo: Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.


Because they did such a bang-up job on that with Wall Street's malfeasance. Wake up chumly, those are fairy tales told by the GOP so acolytes buy into giving their financial class benefactors free reign to fleece taxpayers.
 
2012-12-28 10:24:15 AM
Yeah, i mean, why won't the GOP congress do exactly what Obama wants them to do? Least productive congress EVER!!!
 
2012-12-28 10:24:38 AM
Really, I'm OK with less productivity from Congress. Now, if we could just find less productive lobbyists.
 
2012-12-28 10:25:18 AM
When you set your stake at the #1 job was to be sure Obama was a one-term President and fail miserably while letting the economy run unattended, there is not much else that can be said.
 
2012-12-28 10:25:35 AM
Since these congressmen are from hyper-partisan districts who can only lose from challengers from their extreme (left and right) why would we expect anything to change?
 
2012-12-28 10:26:04 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Yeah, i mean, why won't the GOP congress do exactly what Obama wants them to do? Least productive congress EVER!!!


Actually it's because they've demonstrably done the least. Even for you, that was a pretty dumb post.
 
2012-12-28 10:26:07 AM

neenerist: BillCo: Thank god the Republicans were able to stop as much of the Dems stupid shiat as they did.

Because they did such a bang-up job on that with Wall Street's malfeasance. Wake up chumly, those are fairy tales told by the GOP so acolytes buy into giving their financial class benefactors free reign to fleece taxpayers.


This is what farklibs actually believe.
 
2012-12-28 10:27:12 AM

homelessdude: not5am: ginandbacon: Nasty lot. Can't wait to see the back of them. How do you NOT pass the Violence Against Women Act or the Farm Bill? And yet you see fit to try to redefine rape?

you obviously need to study it out more.

ha! that has to be one of my favorite interviews from 2012

[ct.fra.bz image 300x208].


I'm surprised she hasn't appeared as a Fox commentator yet.
 
2012-12-28 10:27:43 AM

FlashHarry: Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: /yes, i realize dems have a senate majority. the senate, however, is controlled by mitch mcconnell and the tyranny of the filibuster.

What were your thoughts on the filibuster prior to 2007?

[i49.tinypic.com image 480x380]

i think the filibuster - regardless of which party is in charge - should be a last-ditch blocking maneuver only invoked in extreme circumstances - and only permissible when an actual filibuster is used (not just the threat of the filibuster).


The problem with the filibuster today is that the requirements on the minority are so damn low that they can use it whenever they want. Harry Reid could require the GOP to do an actual talking filibuster, but the GOP could just have one person go to the floor and talk for five minutes, then rotate another person in for another five minutes, and so on and so on. In contrast, the majority would have to make sure there are enough people on the floor to maintain a quorum during the talking filibuster, which means today, the Democrats would have to have 50 of their 53 caucus members on the floor continuously so as to prevent the one GOP member from objecting and closing down the session. That's why the minority doesn't have to talk. It's not worth the majority's time to try and wait them out because they will probably get waited out themselves.

That's why I really like Senator Merkley's proposal to require a minimum number of minority Senators be on the floor and to increase that minimum number as the filibuster continued. Basically, five filibustering Senators would have to be on the floor for the first 24 hours, then ten for the next 24 hours, then twenty after that (I would prefer seeing it go up to forty after three straight days). If the minority wants to hold up a bill indefinitely and the majority wants it to pass, they should have a way to do it without trying to change the bill.
 
2012-12-28 10:28:11 AM
Let's say goodbye to the 112th Congress - the least productive Congress in 70 years

And damn proud of it!
 
2012-12-28 10:29:08 AM
And say Hello to the 113th Congress - the least productive Congress in 71 years
 
2012-12-28 10:32:03 AM

LarryDan43: Hopefully they all get the board appointments and high paying lobbyist jobd they were promised in return for doing nothing.


Chris Dodd does seem to have done rather well for himself over there at the MPAA.
 
2012-12-28 10:33:28 AM

Serious Black: The problem with the filibuster today is that the requirements on the minority are so damn low that they can use it whenever they want. Harry Reid could require the GOP to do an actual talking filibuster, but the GOP could just have one person go to the floor and talk for five minutes, then rotate another person in for another five minutes, and so on and so on. In contrast, the majority would have to make sure there are enough people on the floor to maintain a quorum during the talking filibuster, which means today, the Democrats would have to have 50 of their 53 caucus members on the floor continuously so as to prevent the one GOP member from objecting and closing down the session. That's why the minority doesn't have to talk. It's not worth the majority's time to try and wait them out because they will probably get waited out themselves.


So if Harry Reid doesn't require an actual talking filibuster, nothing will ever get passed, but if he does, then it takes a lot longer for nothing to get passed?

fark it - make them stand up in front of a camera and speak in rotation for hours on end as to why they don't want to renew a law that says its bad to hit a woman.
 
2012-12-28 10:36:12 AM
Was McConnell's blunder the first time in history someone managed to filibuster their own bill? If so, it seems like he should get a reward for that.
 
2012-12-28 10:36:47 AM

ginandbacon: Nasty lot. Can't wait to see the back of them

Most of them are coming back, are they not?

Typical "everyone's a prick, except MY congressman! I sent him there to stop Fartbongo!" mentality. At least it is here for our guy... Dems didn't even bother putting up a serious candidate. I imagine a lot of that big empty red part of the US is the same way.
 
2012-12-28 10:39:24 AM
The question is, can we build a meat grinder that's large enough to process all of them?
 
2012-12-28 10:41:09 AM
www.washingtonpost.com
Kindly GTFO, 112th.
 
2012-12-28 10:41:42 AM
Anyone else does their job as shiattily as these fark-ups and they would be fired quick. These chuckle-cocks just give themselves a raise and another farking vacation. Traitors and cowards. ALL.
 
2012-12-28 10:42:27 AM

Karac: Serious Black: The problem with the filibuster today is that the requirements on the minority are so damn low that they can use it whenever they want. Harry Reid could require the GOP to do an actual talking filibuster, but the GOP could just have one person go to the floor and talk for five minutes, then rotate another person in for another five minutes, and so on and so on. In contrast, the majority would have to make sure there are enough people on the floor to maintain a quorum during the talking filibuster, which means today, the Democrats would have to have 50 of their 53 caucus members on the floor continuously so as to prevent the one GOP member from objecting and closing down the session. That's why the minority doesn't have to talk. It's not worth the majority's time to try and wait them out because they will probably get waited out themselves.

So if Harry Reid doesn't require an actual talking filibuster, nothing will ever get passed, but if he does, then it takes a lot longer for nothing to get passed?

fark it - make them stand up in front of a camera and speak in rotation for hours on end as to why they don't want to renew a law that says its bad to hit a woman.


I agree with you, and that's why I like Merkley's minority quorum proposal. It removes much of the incentive to just stop talking about a bill and go onto a different legislative track and increases the incentive for making the minority talk.
 
2012-12-28 10:43:07 AM
In some ways I'm glad.  When politicians agree it usually means people will die.
 
2012-12-28 10:43:35 AM

PonceAlyosha: myspamhere: My voting strategy for the last and next election is simple:

I do not vote for the incumbent. I don't care the party. This congress is so broken, only by a complete purge of the current Representatives will do.

Well it's good you don't have to go to the trouble of actually informing yourself or your views, just blindly wash your hands and hope for something better regardless of what that something actually is actively showing itself to be. Seriously, that's the epitome of American laziness.


Actually it is the the result of a lot of thought. If either party actually stood for what they say they do, then my choice would be very clear. But that sadly is not the case, they are for a collection of special interests and not for the population that elected them.

Yes, I do hope for something better, and voting in the same people who act like a bunch of 3 yr olds is not going to help the situation at all.

I was seriously thinking of voting for the American Nazi's because they were the ONLY ones not lying to me, and said what they really planned on doing.
 
2012-12-28 10:43:54 AM

bulldg4life: I sure as hell hope the pay is good to be that consistently stupid for years in thousands of threads. I just couldn't do it.


There are plenty of rubes out there to suck money from. You assume that the elected officials actually believe the gibberish they're spouting. Those old, scared, stupid, racist, bigoted, uneducated white men are DYING to support people who will be against Those People. Go ahead, register as Republican and spout the most insane racist bigoted insane shiat you can think of.

You'll be leading in the Republican Presidential Primaries in a month.
 
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