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(NYPost)   Heating oil company delivers 300 gallons to Brooklyn house. Homeowner: No tanks   (nypost.com) divider line 96
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2012-12-28 10:58:19 AM
Vinny Burns, owner of the heating-oil company, acknowledged that a mistake was made but insisted that everybody would get paid back.

The only holdup is that his insurance company wrongly sold him a policy that doesn't cover incidents like this, he said.


I don't think the insurance company feels the same way.
 
2012-12-28 11:17:24 AM
FTFA: "Reliable Heating Oil Inc. was supposed to deliver the oil to 142 Cleveland St. last January - but accidentally pumped it into an old oil pipe at the Gochnauers' home at 132 Cleveland."

Ha!
 
2012-12-28 12:55:27 PM
They are looking for the Brooklyn

They are looking for the Brooklyn queens.
 
2012-12-28 12:56:59 PM
This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline.
 
2012-12-28 12:57:49 PM
Every year you read a few stories like this one, that could have been prevented by a $4 bag of Quickcrete and a $10 pipe cap added to the cost of replacing the oil system and removing the tank.
 
2012-12-28 12:59:34 PM
www.fightersgeneration.com

Tank You subby!
 
2012-12-28 01:00:12 PM
Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.
 
2012-12-28 01:01:49 PM
This is why you don't fark around trading commodity futures.
 
2012-12-28 01:07:06 PM
Invite the neighborhood kids for an indoor slip-n-slide.
 
2012-12-28 01:09:14 PM
Jesus, people. If you're going to have your oil tank removed, have the goddamn filler pipe removed as well.
 
2012-12-28 01:11:11 PM
I kind of feel like the oil company could counter-sue on the basis of the still-functioning oil pipe to the basement. Seriously, people, cap yo' shiat.
 
2012-12-28 01:21:44 PM

NutWrench: This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline.


Yeah, they did that to a buddy of mine's up in Vermont.
Dan (won't say his last name) is a good guy and you never see him angry at anyone for anything, but I thought he could murder when he told me what happened. Then I had a company from S.A. (not mentioning names) do me a spill of 400 gal. of kero on my private wetland in Franklin county, and had the audacity to try to charge me for it.
They ended up not only losing a customer but barely avoiding costly litigation by arbitrating with me.
Same assholes that are over charging for Gas in northern VT.
 
2012-12-28 01:24:24 PM
Needs a lawyer who's first name is Oily. Plus you get some dental work done in between court dates. And you can get some copies of your birth certificate, too.

rawreplay.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-28 01:31:00 PM
So wait, there are still dirt basements in NYC?
 
2012-12-28 01:32:34 PM

CheekyMonkey: Jesus, people. If you're going to have your oil tank removed, have the goddamn filler pipe removed as well.


This. Not that the oil company isn't responsible, but this was an easily avoidable issue.
 
2012-12-28 01:34:20 PM

buzzcut73: Every year you read a few stories like this one, that could have been prevented by a $4 bag of Quickcrete and a $10 pipe cap added to the cost of replacing the oil system and removing the tank.


Seems to me that it could also have been prevented by the delivery driver reading the address correctly, which would have cost even less than your proposal.
 
2012-12-28 01:35:53 PM
I agree with everyone who says to fill in/weld shut the pipe, but I also think it'd be nice for the delivery guy to jump out, knock on the door and check in before pumping.

Two things that can be done to avoid these stories. I'd put a little more weight into the owner capping the pipe, though. It is his house.
 
2012-12-28 01:37:33 PM

THX 1138: Seems to me that it could also have been prevented by the delivery driver reading the address correctly, which would have cost even less than your proposal.


I worked for an oil company a long time ago, and while you're correct the homeowner still bears some responsibility for not plugging the fill with cement, or removing it completely.

/had a 250 gal spill once
//on Christmas eve
 
2012-12-28 01:38:03 PM

probesport: They are looking for the Brooklyn

They are looking for the Brooklyn queens.


You, my friend, have the cactus.
 
2012-12-28 01:38:32 PM
Must be winter.
 
2012-12-28 01:39:41 PM

airsupport: probesport: They are looking for the Brooklyn

They are looking for the Brooklyn queens.

You, my friend, have the cactus.


Thanks for not giving me the gas face.
 
2012-12-28 01:41:49 PM

probesport: They are looking for the Brooklyn

They are looking for the Brooklyn queens.


No sleep till Brooklyn.
 
2012-12-28 01:46:32 PM

FarkerinMN: Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.


At least heating oil doesn't have much of a smell, though. If I remember right, it looks, smells, and feels pretty much like olive oil.
 
2012-12-28 01:47:00 PM

NutWrench: This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline.


The tenants should get a home inspector to that house in a hurry to see what else the landlord didn't think to take care of. If they were the type to think "awe this will never happen" imagine what else they thought would never happen.

/not sure if they're legally able to since they're not owners or potential owners.
 
2012-12-28 01:51:13 PM

foxyshadis: FarkerinMN: Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.

At least heating oil doesn't have much of a smell, though. If I remember right, it looks, smells, and feels pretty much like olive oil.


Heating oil IS diesel fuel (just not filtered as much as that which would be put in a car or truck). It most certainly does not smell like olive oil.
 
2012-12-28 01:52:43 PM

foxyshadis: FarkerinMN: Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.

At least heating oil doesn't have much of a smell, though. If I remember right, it looks, smells, and feels pretty much like olive oil.


for a home heating system like that it was either dyed diesel fuel or kerosene.
 
2012-12-28 01:53:13 PM
The building owner has part responsibility too. When they converted our place from oil to gas they took out EVERYTHING, including the filler and vent pipes.
 
2012-12-28 01:56:17 PM
hobbiestoy.com

Too much plutonium, BLECHT
 
2012-12-28 01:58:04 PM
Bernier said...that Reliable was helpful immediately after the spill but split once expenses mounted.

How I picture the owner of Reliable
media.comicvine.com
"Yeahs, our mistake. How can wes makes this right...I know! Tells ya what, I'm not gonna charge you for alls that oil you gots. I'll evens through ins ones of those pines scented air fresheners. No charge. EPA clean up charges? Holds on, I thinks I've left something in my car...."
 
2012-12-28 01:58:14 PM
The building owner has no responsibility. He didn't call the company and order the oil. He didn't drive the truck to the wrong house. The oil company farked up big time.
 
2012-12-28 02:07:43 PM

FarkerinMN: Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.


Hell I'd mix up a batch of cement. Put a tiny beachball down the pipe as far as I could reach. Inflate it and then pour the cement on top of that.

I can see particularly dumb truck drivers "shiat thing is 'welded' shut. I'm gonna need a bigger wrench'.
 
2012-12-28 02:08:42 PM
There's some irony: Reliable Oil Company. They are now the liable oil company.
 
2012-12-28 02:17:55 PM

FarkerinMN: Nutwrench"This is why you should weld the damn caps shut or remove them if there's no tank on the other end.
Could be worse. Last winter, one company filled about a dozen homeowners oil tanks with gasoline."

seriously THIS!! That was the first thing I did when I removed my fuel oil tank, and I live in the country where this is VERY unlikely. I cant imagine trying to get the smell of diesel out of your house.


Things I learned by watching Holmes on Homes: Heating oil is considered a hazardous material. It ha$$$ to be removed by a certified Hazmat abatement contractor.
 
2012-12-28 02:18:17 PM
Brad knows their pain: Pops
 
2012-12-28 02:26:20 PM

Mentalpatient87: I agree with everyone who says to fill in/weld shut the pipe, but I also think it'd be nice for the delivery guy to jump out, knock on the door and check in before pumping.

Two things that can be done to avoid these stories. I'd put a little more weight into the owner capping the pipe, though. It is his house.


Yea, because everyone is home waiting for the oil delivery guy to show up. Or that the oil delivery guy works second shift.
 
2012-12-28 02:28:28 PM
This happened at our house when I was about 6 or 7. We still used oil but there were two fill pipes and the guy used the wrong one.

/We rented I think
 
2012-12-28 02:30:43 PM
How could anyone say that the home owner is responsible in the least? Would you be defending a rapist because of what the girl was wearing? I don't care if the home owner had a sign with an arrow pointing down to the pipe saying "oil goes here." The fact is he/she did not request the oil nor was the oil going to that property. It's their property and it's their choice to do what they want with it. If they choose to cap it to save time and money when accidents such as this happen, then that's fine, but for them to be responsible for any of the burden is illogical.
 
2012-12-28 02:35:39 PM
This happened to a friend of mine, it took a year before the house was declared fit for occupancy.
 
2012-12-28 02:39:24 PM

pinchpoint: I worked for an oil company a long time ago, and while you're correct the homeowner still bears some responsibility for not plugging the fill with cement, or removing it completely.


That's about as logical as claiming that if my neighbor down the street was getting roofing done and the crew showed up at my place and started stripping my shingles, it's my fault for having a roof that they mistook for the correct one.
 
2012-12-28 02:44:55 PM

THX 1138: pinchpoint: I worked for an oil company a long time ago, and while you're correct the homeowner still bears some responsibility for not plugging the fill with cement, or removing it completely.

That's about as logical as claiming that if my neighbor down the street was getting roofing done and the crew showed up at my place and started stripping my shingles, it's my fault for having a roof that they mistook for the correct one.


This actually happened, by the way.
 
2012-12-28 02:45:37 PM

dofus: This happened at our house when I was about 6 or 7. We still used oil but there were two fill pipes and the guy used the wrong one.


Same thing happened at my house we had 2 fill pipes because a tank was replaced, my father capped the old pipe and painted it red and stenciled NO TANK on the side, the oil guys still tried to fill it and spilled about 50 gallons all over the yard, not only did the oil company try to get out of paying for the clean up they tried to charge him for the 50 gallons of oil.

/As to why the old pipe wasn't removed it was too cold to patch the concrete foundation until summer.
 
2012-12-28 02:47:57 PM
Uh...why would they sue for $50k when the cleanup could cost up to $60k.
 
2012-12-28 02:50:17 PM

THX 1138: pinchpoint: I worked for an oil company a long time ago, and while you're correct the homeowner still bears some responsibility for not plugging the fill with cement, or removing it completely.

That's about as logical as claiming that if my neighbor down the street was getting roofing done and the crew showed up at my place and started stripping my shingles, it's my fault for having a roof that they mistook for the correct one.


It would be your fault if you didn't cement your shingles down. That's why I cover everything I don't want messed with in cement. I filled my water meter access with cement so that no one would accdently turn it off, covered my A/C fan with cement so that it wouldn't be removed, and filled my mailbox with cement so that I wouldn't get bills for other people.

/Actualy I did get my water shut off. Someone at 2011 [streetname] lane didn't pay their bill, so they shut off my water at 2011 [streetname] road. Cost me a $50 'turn on fee' to get it back despite the fact they screwed up. They said they had to charge me 'because that's policy', but they would credit the charge to my account. And I couldn't do this over the phone, I had to take off work, go to the city treasurer office, stand in line for 45 minutes, and I ended up being without water for almost 2 days.
 
2012-12-28 03:05:00 PM
$60k to dig up dirt and dispose of it? WTF are they doing with it? Burying it in Yucca Mountain under 10 feet of concrete????? I think the homeowner is looking for a money grab.
 
2012-12-28 03:05:40 PM
This thing seems to be happening all the time. There is a house down the road from me (suburbs of Philly), and the same thing happened over 6 years ago at this one property. While it seems like everything was cleaned up (but maybe not completely), the family 'abandoned' the house and its been sitting ever since.

\There's been a For Sale sign in front of it for like a year now. Still asking a ridiculous price for a house that is likely going to have to be demolished.
 
2012-12-28 03:06:11 PM

MythDragon: They said they had to charge me 'because that's policy', but they would credit the charge to my account.


http://i.imgur.com/hlpY2.gif

/ too large for fark, but only appropriate response
 
2012-12-28 03:14:55 PM

THX 1138: buzzcut73: Every year you read a few stories like this one, that could have been prevented by a $4 bag of Quickcrete and a $10 pipe cap added to the cost of replacing the oil system and removing the tank.

Seems to me that it could also have been prevented by the delivery driver reading the address correctly, which would have cost even less than your proposal.


You think implementing a system that would result in absolutely ZERO address errors wouldn't be expensive?
 
2012-12-28 03:19:18 PM

Cataholic: THX 1138: buzzcut73: Every year you read a few stories like this one, that could have been prevented by a $4 bag of Quickcrete and a $10 pipe cap added to the cost of replacing the oil system and removing the tank.

Seems to me that it could also have been prevented by the delivery driver reading the address correctly, which would have cost even less than your proposal.

You think implementing a system that would result in absolutely ZERO address errors wouldn't be expensive?


Would it cost less than $60,000?
 
2012-12-28 03:25:31 PM

oryx: There's some irony: Reliable Oil Company. They are now the liable oil company.


True. He can now name it the Triple Reliable oil Co.
 
2012-12-28 03:27:33 PM
There was a case of such a mistaken delivery (delivery on previous owner's account right after new owner switched to different heating) and they had to tear down the house and rebuild.

Technically they'd have to do this too, it's nasty stuff.
 
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