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2012-12-28 10:57:43 AM
In the rush to lol at North Korea's tumbling satellite, journalists forgot to mention that all satellites without an attitude correction system - i.e. almost every country's early satellites - tumble. Sputnik looks aerodynamic with its four antenna, but that thing tumbled like a Russian gymnast.
 
2012-12-28 11:43:07 AM
US official: North Korea Media chumps likely deceived U.S. before launching rocket. Obvious tag goes tumbling through low earth orbit

Come on, sheeple, get real.
 
2012-12-28 11:43:35 AM
Oh, shiat. They're closing in rapidly on being within 50 years of the rest of the world technology-wise.
 
2012-12-28 11:44:16 AM
I hope they launch another one, who can get enough of those wacky North Korean sitcoms.
 
2012-12-28 11:45:22 AM
Sooooo, about re-tasking those satellites?????
 
2012-12-28 11:46:03 AM
NO. WAY.
 
2012-12-28 11:46:58 AM
I've deceived a few persons into letting me launch my rocket.
 
2012-12-28 11:47:31 AM
>>December 27. 2012 Juch 101
Rodong Sinmun Slams U.S. for Moving to Use Space for Military Purposes

Pyongyang, December 27 (KCNA) -- Recently, U.S. Air Force launched small unmanned spacecraft in Florida State.

The U.S. keeps the mission of the spaceship in top secrecy though it launches spy satellites unhindered. It is easy to guess that the spaceship has military task that may draw worldwide criticism such as the destruction of satellites of other countries as reported by CNN.

The U.S. imperialists have long sought the ambition to militarize space and provoke a space war.

The U.S. launch of the small spacecraft for military purposes is quite contrary to international law on peaceful use of space.

It is an illegal act violating international space law which calls for using space for the promotion of the well-being of humankind. It is also a grave challenge to the people's desire.

Most countries in the world strongly demand the space powers strictly abide by international space law and take policies for use of outer space for non-military purposes.

The U.S. launch of the spaceship is a dangerous act of swimming against the trend of the times. While launching space weapons for aggression, genocide and destruction at will in disregard of international law, the U.S. incriminates the DPRK's launch of satellite for peaceful purposes. The U.S. ruling quarters are so impudent and outrageous.

Its brigandish logic can never work on the DPRK.

The U.S. had better roll back its criminal space war scenario before taking issue with others.

\you can't make this stuff up
 
2012-12-28 11:51:06 AM
Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.
 
2012-12-28 11:54:09 AM

drongozone: >>December 27. 2012 Juch 101
Rodong Sinmun Slams U.S. for Moving to Use Space for Military Purposes

Pyongyang, December 27 (KCNA) -- Recently, U.S. Air Force launched small unmanned spacecraft in Florida State.

The U.S. keeps the mission of the spaceship in top secrecy though it launches spy satellites unhindered. It is easy to guess that the spaceship has military task that may draw worldwide criticism such as the destruction of satellites of other countries as reported by CNN.

The U.S. imperialists have long sought the ambition to militarize space and provoke a space war.

The U.S. launch of the small spacecraft for military purposes is quite contrary to international law on peaceful use of space.

It is an illegal act violating international space law which calls for using space for the promotion of the well-being of humankind. It is also a grave challenge to the people's desire.

Most countries in the world strongly demand the space powers strictly abide by international space law and take policies for use of outer space for non-military purposes.

The U.S. launch of the spaceship is a dangerous act of swimming against the trend of the times. While launching space weapons for aggression, genocide and destruction at will in disregard of international law, the U.S. incriminates the DPRK's launch of satellite for peaceful purposes. The U.S. ruling quarters are so impudent and outrageous.

Its brigandish logic can never work on the DPRK.

The U.S. had better roll back its criminal space war scenario before taking issue with others.

\you can't make this stuff up



I soooooooo cannot wait for the junta to fail at keeping the citizenry in the dark.  For me, that'll be the most delicious fall of a dictatorship I could ever see.
 
2012-12-28 11:55:38 AM
yawn
 
2012-12-28 11:55:49 AM
Ban Tom Clancy books.
 
2012-12-28 11:58:14 AM
Where is that thing right about now anyways? Wasn't there a site to track it on?
 
2012-12-28 11:58:42 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.


Derp, ladies and gentlemen, looks good on no one.
 
2012-12-28 12:00:14 PM
What surprises me most is that the launch didn't fail like all the others have in the recent past. My guess is that NK weeded out the people doing the presumed sabotage that may have been done, and finally got smart enough to fly a bird with apparent success.

Time to ramp shiat up to 11 on the counter intelligence effort.
 
2012-12-28 12:01:26 PM
I think I missed something in TFA. Is this rocket some kind of show that they can launch things into orbit, or is it a threat showing that they coul possibly put a warhead on that thing?

If it's the warhead thing, that's kind of scary. And I still don't understand why North Korea is trying to warn the world not to atack them. Does anyone actually have any plans for that? As far as I know, they are larely ignored.
 
2012-12-28 12:02:51 PM
We'll never get that peepee out of our coke.
 
2012-12-28 12:05:02 PM
Article: "Earlier this week, South Korean defense officials warned that the latest North Korean missile had the capability to travel more than 6,000 miles, meaning this type of rocket could strike the United States."

That's a bit of an understatement. A rocket that can put a satellite into a polar orbit has the capability to reach any point on the planet.
 
2012-12-28 12:06:21 PM
Or maybe the U.S. just wants N.Korea to believe their ruse worked, and keep on doing what they're doing.
 
2012-12-28 12:06:48 PM

Kuroshin: drongozone: >>December 27. 2012 Juch 101
Rodong Sinmun Slams U.S. for Moving to Use Space for Military Purposes

Pyongyang, December 27 (KCNA) -- Recently, U.S. Air Force launched small unmanned spacecraft ...*propoganda mercifully snipped*...


Response from President Obama: "Shut up, Rodong, you dick."
 
2012-12-28 12:06:57 PM

durbnpoisn: I think I missed something in TFA. Is this rocket some kind of show that they can launch things into orbit, or is it a threat showing that they coul possibly put a warhead on that thing?

If it's the warhead thing, that's kind of scary. And I still don't understand why North Korea is trying to warn the world not to atack them. Does anyone actually have any plans for that? As far as I know, they are larely ignored.


They usually try to parlay it into some sort of aid or easing of sanctions.

I think that the one major reason that no one is interested in attacking them is the power vacuum it would leave and the shiat sandwich of a refugee problem they'd have on their hands. You know, the same reasons the U.S. didn't go into Iraq or Afghanistan. Wait, what?
 
2012-12-28 12:07:34 PM

durbnpoisn: I think I missed something in TFA. Is this rocket some kind of show that they can launch things into orbit, or is it a threat showing that they coul possibly put a warhead on that thing?

If it's the warhead thing, that's kind of scary. And I still don't understand why North Korea is trying to warn the world not to atack them. Does anyone actually have any plans for that? As far as I know, they are larely ignored.


NK is largly a cult. Much of what they do is simply to impress the locals, and scare the Japanese.
 
2012-12-28 12:08:07 PM
Did anyone ever find out (or release) where the pieces landed? Or did the entire device burn up on re-entry?

/dnrfa
 
2012-12-28 12:08:46 PM

You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: I've deceived a few persons into letting me launch my rocket.


Three-stage solid fuel?
 
2012-12-28 12:10:57 PM
NORTHCOMM - "Mr. President, NOKO is about to launch."
Obama - "I don't believe it."
NORAD - "Mr. President, we can see fueling has finished and personnel moving back."
Obama - "I don't believe it."

Boom, flash, zoom

Obama - "How did this happen? Why didn't anyone tell me?"
 
2012-12-28 12:12:48 PM

Kuroshin: I soooooooo cannot wait for the junta to fail at keeping the citizenry in the dark.  For me, that'll be the most delicious fall of a dictatorship I could ever see.


On the other hand, the next South Korean president is a daughter of an undemocratic dictator, Park Chung-hee. Just like the North Korean dear leader. Truth is stranger than fiction.
 
2012-12-28 12:14:51 PM

MindStalker: NK is largly a cult. Much of what they do is simply to impress the locals, and scare the Japanese.


It would be fascinating to find out what is really in their heads, especially, say, the citizens with good enough standing to live in Pyongyang. I personally believe that their fervor is by and large a survival technique, but enough generations have gone by that what they see is all they have ever known. So, there's an off chance that they might believe every bit of it. I dunno, I feel like even if you're brainwashed, there has got to be at least a tiny bit of your humanity telling you "something ain't right".
 
2012-12-28 12:15:17 PM
I am unfamiliar with the country North Korea.
 
2012-12-28 12:18:57 PM

Clemkadidlefark: NORTHCOMM - "Mr. President, passenger jets will be used as weapons."
Bush - "I don't believe it."
NORAD - "Mr. President, we have evidence there is a plot to attack the US."
Bush - "I don't believe it."

Boom, flash, zoom, WTC falls

Bush - "How did this happen? Why didn't anyone tell me?"


FTFY, asshat.
 
2012-12-28 12:19:20 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.


i.cnn.net
 
2012-12-28 12:19:38 PM

drongozone: >>December 27. 2012 Juch 101
Rodong Sinmun Slams U.S. for Moving to Use Space for Military Purposes

Pyongyang, December 27 (KCNA) -- Recently, U.S. Air Force launched small unmanned spacecraft in Florida State.

The U.S. keeps the mission of the spaceship in top secrecy though it launches spy satellites unhindered. It is easy to guess that the spaceship has military task that may draw worldwide criticism such as the destruction of satellites of other countries as reported by CNN.

The U.S. imperialists have long sought the ambition to militarize space and provoke a space war.

The U.S. launch of the small spacecraft for military purposes is quite contrary to international law on peaceful use of space.

It is an illegal act violating international space law which calls for using space for the promotion of the well-being of humankind. It is also a grave challenge to the people's desire.

Most countries in the world strongly demand the space powers strictly abide by international space law and take policies for use of outer space for non-military purposes.

The U.S. launch of the spaceship is a dangerous act of swimming against the trend of the times. While launching space weapons for aggression, genocide and destruction at will in disregard of international law, the U.S. incriminates the DPRK's launch of satellite for peaceful purposes. The U.S. ruling quarters are so impudent and outrageous.

Its brigandish logic can never work on the DPRK.

The U.S. had better roll back its criminal space war scenario before taking issue with others.

\you can't make this stuff up


Oh dear. A strongly worded editorial.

gosh.
 
2012-12-28 12:23:09 PM

Coastalgrl: Did anyone ever find out (or release) where the pieces landed? Or did the entire device burn up on re-entry?

/dnrfa


It's still up there, at an average of 540km.
 
2012-12-28 12:26:21 PM
who is this North Korea you speak of?
 
2012-12-28 12:30:00 PM

durbnpoisn: I think I missed something in TFA. Is this rocket some kind of show that they can launch things into orbit, or is it a threat showing that they coul possibly put a warhead on that thing?


There is a large, wide gulf between this launch and putting a viable nuclear warhead on the thing. There is another gulf WRT accuracy (hitting a target other than 'the Pacific ocean')
 
2012-12-28 12:31:01 PM

Clemkadidlefark: NORTHCOMM - "Mr. President, NOKO is about to launch."
Obama - "I don't believe it."
NORAD - "Mr. President, we can see fueling has finished and personnel moving back."
Obama - "I don't believe it."

Boom, flash, zoom

Obama - "How did this happen? Why didn't anyone tell me?"


You really don't understand slash fiction, do you?
 
2012-12-28 12:35:45 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.


Fooling the CIA isn't very difficult evidently either.
 
2012-12-28 12:42:44 PM

HempHead: jehovahs witness protection: Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.

Fooling the CIA isn't very difficult evidently either.


An organization that was surprised by the fall of the Berlin wall and the break up of the Soviet Union and people are shocked that they missed a missile launch.
 
2012-12-28 12:45:58 PM

HempHead: jehovahs witness protection: Fooling the obama administration isn't very difficult.

Fooling the CIA isn't very difficult evidently either.


I suspect there's been a lot of brain drain in the intelligence community after all the undeserved shiat they got after 9/11. When the administration ignores your advice completely, creates their own agency to create an excuse for a war (Office of Special Plans) and then blames YOU for the fark-ups afterwards, there's not much you can do. You can't defend yourselves publicly without violating your secrecy oaths, so, a lot of people say, "fark this" and leave for greener pastures in the private sector.
 
2012-12-28 12:59:17 PM
news.bbcimg.co.ukwww.wired.commedia.sacbee.com
 
2012-12-28 01:13:56 PM

SweetHomeNowhere: Kuroshin: I soooooooo cannot wait for the junta to fail at keeping the citizenry in the dark.  For me, that'll be the most delicious fall of a dictatorship I could ever see.

On the other hand, the next South Korean president is a daughter of an undemocratic dictator, Park Chung-hee. Just like the North Korean dear leader. Truth is stranger than fiction.


SK has been moving in a very saddening direction.  It's looking more and more like we will never spend any time over there, visiting my wife's family.  Anti-US, pro-unification sentiment is getting dangerous.  I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them make some very stupid decisions in the near-term.
 
2012-12-28 01:20:31 PM

special20: What surprises me most is that the launch didn't fail like all the others have in the recent past. My guess is that NK weeded out the people doing the presumed sabotage that may have been done, and finally got smart enough to fly a bird with apparent success.

Time to ramp shiat up to 11 on the counter intelligence effort.


I'd guess that the saboteurs left this one alone in order to ramp up the casus belli.

After all, it isn't like wars just "break out" like we were taught in social studies class. Nope, they are like a fine wine, taking years of careful preparation in order to achieve their full potential. Especially "World Wars."

As always, follow the money. All the way back to the criminal syndicates d.b.a. global banks. HSBC was caught laundering billions, if not trillions in Mexican drug money, yet all they did was to pay a small fine (in comparison). No convictions, no indictments, and gee, not even any arrests.
 
2012-12-28 01:46:36 PM

Clemkadidlefark: NORTHCOMM - "Mr. President, NOKO is about to launch."
Obama - "I don't believe it."
NORAD - "Mr. President, we can see fueling has finished and personnel moving back."
Obama - "I don't believe it."

Boom, flash, zoom

Obama - "How did this happen? Why didn't anyone tell me?"


So how long have you had a bug planted in the White House Situation Room?
 
2012-12-28 01:50:12 PM

Kuroshin: SK has been moving in a very saddening direction.  It's looking more and more like we will never spend any time over there, visiting my wife's family.  Anti-US, pro-unification sentiment is getting dangerous.  I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them make some very stupid decisions in the near-term.


You're telling me. My Japanese relatives vote for SDP, a very NK-friendly political party. Back to South Korea. Whether South Korea would have a pro-USA president or an anti-USA president in power, the country will degenerate and turn into a rump state. The South Korean government and political system aren't designed to functionally sustain themselves in the long run. Ethnic nationalism and money are more important than democracy for any contemporary South Korean.

South Koreans live in the 21st century, but their political attitudes are still stuck in 1950s. You cannot functionally run a modern democratic and capitalist country when 90% of the people think very backwards when it comes to politics. But that's how I think. Here's the funny thought. The lack of decent political sense among South Koreans is one of the big reasons why you cannot see any reputable Korean-American political pundits in American television.

Anyways. I can see that my SK-born spouse keeps encouraging me to dislike South Korea.
 
2012-12-28 02:16:28 PM

Kuroshin: SweetHomeNowhere: Kuroshin: I soooooooo cannot wait for the junta to fail at keeping the citizenry in the dark.  For me, that'll be the most delicious fall of a dictatorship I could ever see.

On the other hand, the next South Korean president is a daughter of an undemocratic dictator, Park Chung-hee. Just like the North Korean dear leader. Truth is stranger than fiction.

SK has been moving in a very saddening direction.  It's looking more and more like we will never spend any time over there, visiting my wife's family.  Anti-US, pro-unification sentiment is getting dangerous.  I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them make some very stupid decisions in the near-term.


If South Korea asks the US to leave, I wonder if we would...

/ 'cause that would be a real shiatstorm
// normally, I don't support US dick-waving adventurism ( Somalia, Gulf War II, Afghanistan ), but we have legitimate reasons for being on the DMZ in Korea, IMHO.
 
2012-12-28 02:59:36 PM
It did surprising well for something made from an old Radio Shack kit, dried rice, and goat hair.
 
2012-12-28 03:04:03 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Kuroshin: SweetHomeNowhere: Kuroshin: I soooooooo cannot wait for the junta to fail at keeping the citizenry in the dark.  For me, that'll be the most delicious fall of a dictatorship I could ever see.

On the other hand, the next South Korean president is a daughter of an undemocratic dictator, Park Chung-hee. Just like the North Korean dear leader. Truth is stranger than fiction.

SK has been moving in a very saddening direction.  It's looking more and more like we will never spend any time over there, visiting my wife's family.  Anti-US, pro-unification sentiment is getting dangerous.  I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them make some very stupid decisions in the near-term.

If South Korea asks the US to leave, I wonder if we would...

/ 'cause that would be a real shiatstorm
// normally, I don't support US dick-waving adventurism ( Somalia, Gulf War II, Afghanistan ), but we have legitimate reasons for being on the DMZ in Korea, IMHO.


I say leave. Leave and see what they do. If SK wants us out we should leave, and if SK and NK want to get the gang back together, that is fine too. We have no right to prevent that if both countries want it.

Then, by leaving, we end up a country on the opposite side of the world with no clear way to strike at us, nor the will of the people to do so. If the future leader of unified korea wants to turn warmongery, it will be picking a country that isn't near us. It will also likely be pissing off China at that point too. I don't see China or Russia having any interest in working towards a world war. I'm sure China likes NK to be the crazy neighbor who draws all the attention, not the crazy neighbor who actually does stuff.
 
2012-12-28 03:16:30 PM
They deceived us, did they? Well, that being the 456th straight time they promised us something and delivered the opposite, we must put our foot down and stop their sinister shenanigans. I think we should come together in the spirit of this season of love, brotherhood and understanding and nuke them so the northern half of the peninsula turns to glass and glows a lovely green for a millenium or two.
 
2012-12-28 03:38:57 PM
Who gives a crap what Best Korea does.
Their Photochops are immensely entertaining though.
O-Dumbshiat is too busy plotting to sell us to the UN and China to pay any attention to them anyway.
 
2012-12-28 04:23:05 PM

computerguyUT: Who gives a crap what Best Korea does.
Their Photochops are immensely entertaining though.
O-Dumbshiat is too busy plotting to sell us to the UN and China to pay any attention to them anyway.


You know, all the presidents have been puppets controlled by the Powers That Be that control the rise and fall of empires. To think Obama is actually to blame for something is like blaming a ventriloquist dummy for calling your wife a whore at the comedy club.
 
2012-12-28 04:38:22 PM
So, what is this satellite actually for?

Does it go beep like a Sputnik? Is it some sort of CommSat?

I mean, even if it is truly only a cover story for ballistics testing, which I tend to believe, there has to be some theoretical purpose for the thing.
 
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