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(Beatweek Magazine)   After initial flop, does Google+ have a secret weapon for a comeback?   (beatweek.com) divider line 60
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2012-12-28 10:10:20 AM
Hangouts have always been pretty sweet.
 
2012-12-28 10:45:55 AM
Their photo albums/integration with groups and hangouts is awesome. Facebook doesn't come close, unfortunatly people using a social media product aren't looking for technical dominance, they're looking for critical mass.
 
2012-12-28 11:44:52 AM
Friends keep sending me requests to join Google+. I'm starting to slowly ween myself off Google services. It has been in the back of my mind for a while now, but with them ending support for Exchange Active Sync for free users it was the kick in he ass I needed to get it started. Comcast gives a free Exchange account for your domain if you own one with business class service, so I've been transitioning over my important mail to the new address.

If you have fun using G+ and everything else, awesome. I've just given too much of my information to these types of companies and want to stop.
 
2012-12-28 11:44:54 AM

Howard Finkelstein: Their photo albums/integration with groups and hangouts is awesome. Facebook doesn't come close, unfortunatly people using a social media product aren't looking for technical dominance, they're looking for critical mass.


and most people that decide to stay on Google+ are the type you only agreed to befriend in facebook out of pity anyways. The smug, friendless (in real life) assholes love Google+ so they can talk abou thow much smarter they are.
 
2012-12-28 11:46:22 AM
Another in the 76469643525 part series, headlines that can be answered with "no".
 
2012-12-28 11:47:06 AM

Holocaust Agnostic: Another in the 76469643525 part series, headlines that can be answered with "no".

 
2012-12-28 11:54:19 AM
Plus, there are like 99% less "press like to save the horribly disfigured cancer baby" and Jesus is my co-pilot" links over here.

Doubleplusgood? Tabletop RPG Hangouts.
 
2012-12-28 11:56:48 AM
I thought Google's strategy with G+ has pretty much been, "wait until enough people get tired of / pissed off at Facebook." It's a solid app, but the sell point of social networking isn't the app, it's the people who are on it. Or at least it has been that way after the initial Friendster/Facebook/Myspace boom.

/G+ user
//Mainly because my family isn't on it.
 
2012-12-28 11:59:18 AM
Desperate for members, Google now forces you to join Google+ to rate local businesses in Google maps and Google store Android apps.

Too bad. 'm not interested in creating a public profile of my consumer choices.
 
2012-12-28 12:00:24 PM
Google+ is good. Instant upload is handy. Hangouts dominate anything any other social network has.
 
2012-12-28 12:01:30 PM
Not being able to use a nom-de-plume is a deal breaker.

Protective habits formed in the days of modem BBSes die hard.

They can keep their walled garden.
 
2012-12-28 12:01:58 PM
After initial flop, does Google+ have a secret weapon for a comeback?

No.
 
2012-12-28 12:02:26 PM
Unless it involves porn of some time, I'm going with the rest of the group and answering "no".
 
2012-12-28 12:02:35 PM

MightyPez: Friends keep sending me requests to join Google+. I'm starting to slowly ween myself off Google services. It has been in the back of my mind for a while now, but with them ending support for Exchange Active Sync for free users it was the kick in he ass I needed to get it started. Comcast gives a free Exchange account for your domain if you own one with business class service, so I've been transitioning over my important mail to the new address.

If you have fun using G+ and everything else, awesome. I've just given too much of my information to these types of companies and want to stop.


I think that Google uses the gmail accounts of G+ users to send out G+ invites to their contact list. I suspect this because my mother, of all people, joined G+ and added me to a circle. She is in my gmail contact list, but I never invited her and I really don't think she knows anyone else on G+.

And for the record, I pretty much abandoned it a month after it started.
 
2012-12-28 12:03:58 PM

Grapple: Unless it involves porn of some timeKIND, I'm going with the rest of the group and answering "no".


Need more coffee.
 
2012-12-28 12:04:25 PM

Grapple: Unless it involves porn of some time, I'm going with the rest of the group and answering "no".


What would it be called? Booble+ ... Googlexxx ... Spoogle...
 
2012-12-28 12:04:57 PM
It's been a bit too wonky for me.  Granted, I haven't spent all that much time with it, but finding certain past activities was apparently impossible (tracking down certain communications).  Not enough breadcrumbs, and not sorted nicely into one easy-to-find area.  Everything is geared more toward a "feed" mechanic, which doesn't suit me.  As clunky as FB has become, you can still follow breadcrumbs to past posts on friends' walls and statuses quickly and easily.

g+ is totally alien, so it's just really hard to pick up.  Moving from things like LJ and MySpace over to FB was fairly simple due to the traditional "blog"-style design.  g+ works more like an RSS feed, and I don't like it.
 
2012-12-28 12:05:26 PM
I want to know why a bunch of people I've never heard of keep adding me on G+. Like people in India and Pakistan. WTF. I put them all in my "seventh circle of hell" circle. Hope you enjoy that burning rash and the fact that I don't post anything for you to spam on.
 
2012-12-28 12:05:45 PM
Maybe their secret plan is to just let facebook continue down their present path towards "SAMSUNG presents, your timeline! "Hey facebook user, what's on your mind?" "I had eggs for breakfast." THIS STATUS UPDATE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE NEW DUNKIN DONUTS EGG CHEESE AND SAUSAGE AND BUTTER AND DONUT SANDWICH BETWEEN MUFFIN TOPS, TRY ONE TODAY! Hey user, who is that in this photo you uploaded? Is it Carl? It looks a lot like Carl. I'm going to put it on Carl's timeline CARL'S TIMELINE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY WALMART! Carl likes Walmart, user. You probably do too, since you're such a good friend to Carl. I'll just go ahead and add the fact that you like Walmart to your timeline. Status: "Looking forward to this weekend." THIS STATUS BROUGHT TO YOU BY BUD LIGHT! IT'S NOT A WEEKEND IF YOU AREN'T DRUNK ON TERRIBLE BEER! BUD LIGHT!
 
2012-12-28 12:08:45 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-28 12:08:48 PM

Arkanaut: I thought Google's strategy with G+ has pretty much been, "wait until enough people get tired of / pissed off at Facebook." It's a solid app, but the sell point of social networking isn't the app, it's the people who are on it. Or at least it has been that way after the initial Friendster/Facebook/Myspace boom.

/G+ user
//Mainly because my family isn't on it.


The only people I see on G+ are googlers, ex-googlers, and tech guys who hold some sort of grudge against facebook for no rational reason.  Unless you can appeal to the non-tech crowd - its never going to take off.  To add insult to injury - google is breaking apps to add g+ features (e.g. google reader).
 
2012-12-28 12:20:41 PM

wambu: [i.imgur.com image 850x571]


They make cats scream at night below my window?
 
2012-12-28 12:20:43 PM
I'm neither a tech guy or a Google employee (past or present), but I've been finding Google+ more useful and manageable lately than Facebook. Hangouts are awesome, and the suite of other services integrates really well. I also like the ease in which friends are organized and the new Communities structure. The lack of obnoxious and/or poorly aimed advertising is nice too.
 
2012-12-28 12:27:22 PM
Just start handing out Ingress invites to G+ members...
 
2012-12-28 12:34:28 PM
I'm on Google+ and don't have a Facebook account. I don't follow or talk to anyone more than 1 degree separated from people I know personally. I think my favorite thing about it is that there just aren't that many people there to waste my time.

But I guess I am just a very strange individual.
 
2012-12-28 12:35:25 PM
G+'s secret weapon against Facebook is Facebook itself.

What a bloated monster of a service FB is. Its reminiscent of ICQ's option screen before everyone abandoned it seemingly on the same day.
 
2012-12-28 12:44:56 PM
Article about google plus, no share link to post on google plus
 
2012-12-28 01:00:14 PM
Don't worry, Google+. One of these days, Facebook will go the way of DALNet.
 
2012-12-28 01:32:23 PM
I like how "Warped Tour 2011 Report" is under "related articles".

//I'm on G+
///Only 10 people I know use it, and only 2 of them actually use it more than once every 6 months.
////But what the hell, I use gmail. I have no complaints. And I use a fake name anyway. No problems.
 
2012-12-28 01:35:33 PM

Arkanaut: I thought Google's strategy with G+ has pretty much been, "wait until enough people get tired of / pissed off at Facebook."


THIS

I'm already seeing the start of the end of Facebook. They don't understand about how to make money, and are desperately flailing around trying to find ways to do it.
 
2012-12-28 01:53:56 PM

farkeruk: Arkanaut: I thought Google's strategy with G+ has pretty much been, "wait until enough people get tired of / pissed off at Facebook."

THIS

I'm already seeing the start of the end of Facebook. They don't understand about how to make money, and are desperately flailing around trying to find ways to do it.


If Facebook gets too annoying to use, I'm just going to go back to the classic social network the corner bar.
 
2012-12-28 02:04:48 PM
Hey, Farkers here's a secret.
Google+ isn't a Facebook killer.
It's a way to make us part of the algorithm known as Page Rank.
It provides better search results and makes their advertising more effective.
Remember, it's a secret. Don't tell anyone.
 
2012-12-28 02:09:35 PM

farkeruk: Arkanaut: I thought Google's strategy with G+ has pretty much been, "wait until enough people get tired of / pissed off at Facebook."

THIS

I'm already seeing the start of the end of Facebook. They don't understand about how to make money, and are desperately flailing around trying to find ways to do it.


The move to sell Instagram pictures was an act of desperation mixed with hubris and sprinkled with a lot of idiocy.

I've noticed under 20s preferring Twitter since they do not have jobs that allow them to sit in front of computers and play on Facebook.
 
2012-12-28 03:06:23 PM

USA Prime Credit Peggy: Google+ is good. Instant upload is handy. Hangouts dominate anything any other social network has.


What's it like working at google? Can I have a job there too? I promise I will *try* to use google plus as much as possible and be a devoted shill like you.
 
2012-12-28 03:18:13 PM

thistime: USA Prime Credit Peggy: Google+ is good. Instant upload is handy. Hangouts dominate anything any other social network has.

What's it like working at google? Can I have a job there too? I promise I will *try* to use google plus as much as possible and be a devoted shill like you.


I don't work for Google, but I wish I did. They have some of the best pay/benefits out there for a tech company.

I use it because it better integrates with my Android phone than Facebook ever did or ever will.
 
2012-12-28 03:22:03 PM

LasersHurt: Hangouts have always been pretty sweet.


Ever play with the build in apps? Gotta love the sound boards and cheesy visual effects, make for an entertaining diversion when the conversation lulls betwixt old friends.
 
2012-12-28 03:22:38 PM

thistime: USA Prime Credit Peggy: Google+ is good. Instant upload is handy. Hangouts dominate anything any other social network has.

What's it like working at google? Can I have a job there too? I promise I will *try* to use google plus as much as possible and be a devoted shill like you.


Hangouts really, seriously do blow any other video chat method from any social network out of the water. They're great. You don't have to work for Google to see that.
 
2012-12-28 03:25:34 PM

milsorgen: LasersHurt: Hangouts have always been pretty sweet.

Ever play with the build in apps? Gotta love the sound boards and cheesy visual effects, make for an entertaining diversion when the conversation lulls betwixt old friends.


Yeah, all the time. I work from home, as does 3/4 of my department, so we have meetings via hangout. Sometimes I screw around. Also, the Lower Third thing is great for adding a title and company logo for webinars and the like.
 
2012-12-28 03:25:42 PM

Nemo's Brother: Howard Finkelstein: Their photo albums/integration with groups and hangouts is awesome. Facebook doesn't come close, unfortunatly people using a social media product aren't looking for technical dominance, they're looking for critical mass.

and most people that decide to stay on Google+ are the type you only agreed to befriend in facebook out of pity anyways. The smug, friendless (in real life) assholes love Google+ so they can talk abou thow much smarter they are.


I know I absolutely hate the conversations I am FORCED into on G+. I mean just the other day I had some photographers and randoms join my NOT-ADOBE-PHOTOSHOP-SOFTWARE community I made on a whim and engage in talk. Or when I see a really popular post and chime in and a convo gets rolling, or heaven forbid the OP responds!

I hate the conversation and sharing that occurs on G+, I am so with you on this. Facebook for life, let's see some nice JPEG'd up forced memes, like if you dont hit ur gurl! Or even better being clued in on ever little stop in the day of someone with a smartphone and too much interest in checking in. Really adds to my social life knowing Bill is having a tunamelt at the farking airport.
 
2012-12-28 04:36:17 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

None of my friends are on Google +, so there's no reason for me to be on it. But facebook continues to make me stabby and I'd switch if there was critical mass.
 
2012-12-28 04:49:49 PM
Google+ has a future, and its success or failure is entirely in Google's hands. Its success, I think, will lie directly in how they handle the integration with Google Now.

For those who have not known the true awesomeness and power of Google Now, I pitty you. It truly is the killer android app.

Unless of course you are one of those people who believe google doesn't already know all your information already.
 
2012-12-28 04:54:14 PM
Does it matter? Google closes services the second they gain traction.

/still pissed about Google Apps
 
2012-12-28 05:06:39 PM

jaytkay: Desperate for members, Google now forces you to join Google+ to rate local businesses in Google maps and Google store Android apps.

Too bad. 'm not interested in creating a public profile of my consumer choices.


(sung by an entire choir): THIS!

That alone made me start to, one app at a time, ween myself off Google.

fark that shiat.
 
2012-12-28 05:44:53 PM
I only joined G+ for the hangouts.

/still on facebook
 
2012-12-28 07:22:42 PM
A lot of people's problems with Facebook and other social media sites seem to stem from them adding morons and people they don't like to their Facebook/other social media whatever.

It's like bellowing your hatred for emo teenagers and then spending your spare time hanging out in Hot Topic. What the fark, just ignore them!
 
2012-12-28 07:34:08 PM
Doesn't G+ have around 3 - 5 million actual users on it? That doesn't seem like that much of a flop to me... sure it's no Facebook but for a time Facebook wasn't anywhere near as large as MySpace was.

More to the point why does there only have to be one social networking site, joking aside isn't that the exact same thing us techies were raging about with Microsoft OS's back in the 90's? There was only one choice.
 
2012-12-28 08:39:09 PM
At first google was ok with people posting adult content. I created a porn circle and instead of using tumblr (wretched) I and a few friends were posting delightful and interesting gay porn to our porn circle. then google sent us a nasty email telling us in short the hardcore stuff had to go and they had deleted most of our adult content except for pics of people just naked and or just fapping. So g+ can eat a big fat deleted dick
 
2012-12-28 09:43:17 PM

MrEricSir: Does it matter? Google closes services the second they gain traction.

/still pissed about Google Apps


Google Apps haven't gone anywhere. They are just listed under Google Drive now.

My experience with Google+ is that you have to search out people to follow. While facebook is still the defacto place to see puppy and baby pictures of relatives, Google+ is more "interest related". Now, I'm sure that Google would much rather it be the "share your baby pictures" website that everyone's mom belongs to, but currently I like that it fills my more geeky needs without the look-at-how-adorable-my-ugly-family-is fluff.
 
2012-12-28 09:58:27 PM

snowshovel: Google Apps haven't gone anywhere. They are just listed under Google Drive now.


And no longer free, which is the main reason I've been using Google Apps.
 
2012-12-28 10:36:57 PM
When your secret weapon is "We aren't Facebook", you are bound to see some success. But realistically, the whole idea of centrally located social media will fail because the only person who should be trusted with your personal information is you. What we will see is a trend towards personal websites. Not blogs, but actual individual "yournamehere.com" websites. The learning curve is not that great, especially with the preponderance of WYSIWYG software, the cost is less than $100 per year, and all that crap that pisses everyone off about Google+ and FB are entirely within the control of the individual user. Connectivity (what FB arrogantly calls "friending") is as easy as doing basic SEO, and the whole field of tailor-made apps for personal websites is wide open.
 
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