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2012-12-28 01:39:00 AM  
How do you do that?  Cheat at cards with it?
 
2012-12-28 01:46:21 AM  
Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.
 
2012-12-28 01:47:07 AM  
Put hot wax on it.
 
2012-12-28 01:49:06 AM  

optikeye: Put hot wax on it.


Sure, it'll smell nice, but then you have the problem of getting the wax off the cat.
 
2012-12-28 01:55:15 AM  
So the cat is posting in the Politics tab now?
 
2012-12-28 02:12:19 AM  
a: plus one
b: I think she might have too closely imprinted with bipeds to do well in the wild- who is going to teach her how to hunt ? Just showing her a male or two isnt gonna cut it- that was mommas job.
c: I have a feeling she will end up forever in a sanctuary, and  

AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.

NO . Just NO.
 
2012-12-28 02:20:37 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: So the cat is posting in the Politics tab now?


I LOL'd.
 
2012-12-28 02:27:43 AM  
I'll help.

*boot*
 
2012-12-28 03:04:29 AM  
I can help.  Cats hate me, no matter how friendly I am.
 
2012-12-28 03:43:13 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.


I.....

*blink....blink*

I have an idea.

You try the pet bobcat idea yourself and see how that turns out.
 
2012-12-28 04:01:51 AM  
They are doing the good and right thing, but this still makes me sad. Transcribing the way I speak of this young feline would ruin my masculine image.

\ But she just wants snuggles...
 
2012-12-28 04:47:52 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: So the cat is posting in the Politics tab now?


Hee-hee.
 
2012-12-28 05:04:10 AM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-28 07:50:06 AM  
What the hell...

Every wildlife rehabber has to do this on a regular basis... at least the ones who work with something other than birds and deer.

It really is the most heartbreaking job imaginable... If you fail... they die. If you do it right, they will learn to hate you and everyone like you and go away.
 
2012-12-28 08:11:52 AM  
"If you have a friendly bobcat in the wild, that's not going to work," said volunteer Jill Tripoli, who squirts the kitten with a water bottle if she tries cuddling up to humans.

I would be very bad at that job.
 
2012-12-28 09:17:47 AM  
<p xmlns="<a data-cke-saved-href=" http:="" www.w3.org="" 2005="" atom"="" href="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" target="_blank">As part of her training regimen, Chips has had to start chasing down her own mice and rabbits for meals and stop sleeping on a soft bed like the one she'd grown accustomed to while she was receiving medical treatment.


"Hello, Front Desk?  The room service has really gone downhill this week."
 
2012-12-28 09:51:11 AM  
I was actually expecting the xkcd "making the world a weirder place" comic by this time
 
2012-12-28 09:58:12 AM  
Snarf Snarf
 
2012-12-28 10:02:38 AM  

alienated: a: plus one
b: I think she might have too closely imprinted with bipeds to do well in the wild- who is going to teach her how to hunt ? Just showing her a male or two isnt gonna cut it- that was mommas job.
c: I have a feeling she will end up forever in a sanctuary, and   AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.
NO . Just NO.


Why not? If someone has a few decades to blow selectively breeding bobcats until they're somewhat domesticated, that's between them and the large volume of infected scratches they'll get.
 
2012-12-28 10:06:46 AM  

optikeye: Put hot wax on it.



Dripping wax on a pussy . . . you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-12-28 10:08:16 AM  

Kittypie070: AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.

I.....

*blink....blink*

I have an idea.

You try the pet bobcat idea yourself and see how that turns out.


i109.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-28 10:08:21 AM  
I think this is a job for Micheal Vick. Of course if it doesn't get meaner he will strangle it.
 
2012-12-28 10:09:52 AM  
Ever try stuffing a melted marshmallow up a wildcat's ass? It can be done, but you have to like your job
 
2012-12-28 10:11:29 AM  
More dangerous is taming a cougar............
 
2012-12-28 10:12:33 AM  
I don't live to terribly far from there (I'm in the suburbs of Sac, on the  same side as Placerville, so maybe 30 minutes on the freeway) and we get bobcats here all the time, despite the heavy traffic not far from my house. My son and I have seen one running into the wooded area behind our house several times now. They usually run away from humans, not follow them around. That this one was following around the fire crews is incredibly weird and makes  me wonder if someone was feeding the momma before the Plumas fire started,  making the kitten trust them too much. People don't realize how much damage you can do to the wildlife by "being nice". Don't even get  me started on people who feed bears.

/we also get mountain lions here in the 'burbs from  time  to time
//they're scary, though
 
2012-12-28 10:14:09 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.


Taking any excess wolves out of the North American populations alive and using them to recreate domesticated dogs would probably work better. All the Russians had to do was choose the silver foxes the least afraid of humans for what, 12-16 fox generations and they had domesticated foxes, and we already know domesticating wolves the first time worked out at least as well. And we could leave out breeding them to guard things and to chase other animals like the first dogs and do it all scientifically this time..
 
2012-12-28 10:16:42 AM  

ggecko: More dangerous is taming a cougar............


Nah.. those old broads arent nearly as wild as the media makes them out to be.
 
2012-12-28 10:19:24 AM  

SwiftFox: 12-16 fox generations


It was way more that that. Foxes reach reproductive maturity fairly quickly, and the experiment went on for almost forty years. There were at least 30 generations, if I recall correctly.
 
2012-12-28 10:19:27 AM  
Just get into a gun debate with it.
 
2012-12-28 10:21:19 AM  
Give it to Michael Vick.
 
2012-12-28 10:21:25 AM  

ggecko: More dangerous is taming a cougar............


You don't need to tame them, you just need to not get them pregnant.
 
GBB
2012-12-28 10:24:44 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.


And turn it into the feline version of the pitbull terrier? I like the sound of this actually. Then I can reply to threads with "Well, MYYYYyyyyy bobcat wouldn't hurt a fly. It must be the owner's fault."
 
2012-12-28 10:29:08 AM  

Kittypie070: AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.

I.....

*blink....blink*

I have an idea.

You try the pet bobcat idea yourself and see how that turns out.



Any particular reason why not? I had a domesticated cat which at 38 lbs. was easily as big as a bobcat and it was awesome. He was pretty huge for a housecat, but that just meant your lap was thoroughly warmed when he curled up on it.

Seems to me a line of domesticated bobcats would just be cats which are a little on the big side.
 
2012-12-28 10:29:33 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: People don't realize how much damage you can do to the wildlife by "being nice".


Humans killing/driving off the mother by starting the fire probably did more damage than 'being nice', Spay 'Chips', keep her safe and try not to do any more damage to her.

/fought fire in Plumas decades ago.
 
2012-12-28 10:34:33 AM  
I totally couldn't do this job. All I would do would go "aww kitty!" and want to pet it and get it to do bobcat purrs.

/ totally a sucker for teh kittehs
// don't care if some people think its not "manly." Cats are awesome.
 
2012-12-28 10:34:53 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.


Are they hypoallergenic?
 
2012-12-28 10:37:05 AM  
supersoaker filled with cheap vodak

/volunteer at wildlife center
//raise orphan raccoons for release
///can only release if they hate and fear humans
////vodak does that to critters and the ex-wife
 
2012-12-28 10:41:41 AM  

StarshipAngel: I totally couldn't do this job. All I would do would go "aww kitty!" and want to pet it and get it to do bobcat purrs.

/ totally a sucker for teh kittehs
// don't care if some people think its not "manly." Cats are awesome.



You know what's REALLY manly? Not giving two shiats what other people think is manly or not. Cats are indeed awesome.


Lt_Ryan: AverageAmericanGuy: Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.

Are they hypoallergenic?



No cats or dogs are hypoallergenic. Some breeders just started claiming it, but the last I heard any time those claims are actually investigated they turn out to not be true.
 
2012-12-28 10:43:41 AM  

PonceAlyosha: SwiftFox: 12-16 fox generations

It was way more that that. Foxes reach reproductive maturity fairly quickly, and the experiment went on for almost forty years. There were at least 30 generations, if I recall correctly.


IIRC, they took on a lot of traits of domesticated dogs very quickly, though, probably on the time scale SwiftFox mentioned. Floppy ears, curly tails, and blue eyes are all apparently linked to the genes that make canines more docile. I'd like to see something similar done with bobcats, just out of curiosity, to be honest. I wonder how quickly you'd get a bobcat that insisted on sitting on the newspaper when you were trying to read it.

/do you even call a fox a canine? I guess it's a vulpine, but you know what I mean
 
2012-12-28 10:47:49 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy:

Seems like it might be better to just use this little kitten as breeding stock to create docile and friendly bobcat pets.

Domestic cats, if not cooped up in the apartment all day, aren't really domesticated still: the difference is realizing that they can eat what they'll kill for fun anyway. Given that, I don't see anything wrong with breeding pet bobcats. But there's a middle ground: why not just let this one bobcat stay as tame as it already is? If she's spayed she won't miss male bobcats and she's already bonded to humans. Apparently Charlie the Coyote is still a pet. The keepers would have to remember what she's capable of, perhaps you won't want her sleeping with your baby, but why force her to be wild if she doesn't want to be? Let her stay with somebody with a big fenced yard and get her a nice dog to play with: my big Pomeranian (or dwarf Keeshond) grew up with ferrets (we have to rescue him from them when they play too rough) and likes cats more than other dogs.

PC can be overdone. People who are totally incapable of making individual exceptions should be taken out and shot.
 
2012-12-28 11:03:49 AM  
"Instead of office chair, package contained cute affectionate bobcat. A++ would buy again."
 
2012-12-28 11:07:09 AM  
Is a bobcat an endangered species? If not, I say let it stay with the humans. No point trying to confuse the little fella by acting mean to it.
 
2012-12-28 11:14:08 AM  

Chinchillazilla: PonceAlyosha: SwiftFox: 12-16 fox generations

It was way more that that. Foxes reach reproductive maturity fairly quickly, and the experiment went on for almost forty years. There were at least 30 generations, if I recall correctly.

IIRC, they took on a lot of traits of domesticated dogs very quickly, though, probably on the time scale SwiftFox mentioned. Floppy ears, curly tails, and blue eyes are all apparently linked to the genes that make canines more docile. I'd like to see something similar done with bobcats, just out of curiosity, to be honest. I wonder how quickly you'd get a bobcat that insisted on sitting on the newspaper when you were trying to read it.

/do you even call a fox a canine? I guess it's a vulpine, but you know what I mean


A "canid". Distantly related to dogs but not close enough to other foxes to have even sterile hybrids.
 
2012-12-28 11:20:10 AM  
Wild cats are bred with domestics.
There are different levels according to how many generations.
Saw it on the tube a couple nights ago.

http://www.wcvb.com/chronicle/Thursday-December-27-Cats/-/12523032/17 8 35776/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/dclvyw/-/index.html

/I'd love a cat that could wail on the neighbor's yappy dog.
 
2012-12-28 11:31:28 AM  

cgraves67: I think this is a job for Micheal Vick. Of course if it doesn't get meaner he will strangle it.


You could leave it at Michae....damnit, too late.
 
2012-12-28 11:39:15 AM  
I want a Savannah F1
lh6.ggpht.com
 
2012-12-28 11:39:48 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-12-28 11:59:00 AM  

GungFu: Is a bobcat an endangered species? If not, I say let it stay with the humans. No point trying to confuse the little fella by acting mean to it.


its a tough spot for sure. on one hand I fear it might be too late for this one. on the other hand, my 8 lb house kitty has hurt me on occasion.
 
2012-12-28 12:04:35 PM  
I guess you could scream at it and pelt it with various objects...
 
2012-12-28 12:06:40 PM  

MarkMartinFan: supersoaker filled with cheap vodak

/volunteer at wildlife center
//raise orphan raccoons for release
///can only release if they hate and fear humans
////vodak does that to critters and the ex-wife


I wish we could legally release orphan raccoons here.

Its still done, but the underground rehab networks are always super paranoid about working with anyone here... and good luck finding a vet that will work with you as well now. (Unless you have known them for years)

/love my baby thieves
 
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